The Art of the LDK
SirLapdancealot
Knight of the Round Table Dance
Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:00 AM
Background
New member here, but longtime lurker and also longtime LDKer. I have been LDKing since before the term existed. My first LDK was at Deja Vu in downtown San Francisco back in the 90s. I can't remember the details but I'm pretty sure it was unintentional. But over the years of PL life I have learned to refine and master it for myself as completely intentional and the ultimate intent of why I go to a club. I have other reasons, but truly the LDK is the pinnacle of what I want in a club.
I have read a lot of posts about not being to LDK by numerous members. They can't even fathom it for themselves and some of the reasoning just cracks me up. This article is mainly for you PLs and any PL that is open to doing it intentionally. By writing it I hope to contribute to TUSCL since I have I have benefitted from all the awesome LDK and overall strip clubbing information here.
Chapter 1: Why should you consider the LDK?
This is probably the first thing you should define for yourself. The way I see it, there are various ways of getting off and each one has a level or value. The lowest level for me is to jack off with my bare hands and lube. The highest level for me is to be fucking a hottie missionary, she has already came or is in the midst of it so her pussy is sopping wet, my hands are grabbing her ass and I am spreading her cheeks wide as I thrust, and, most importantly, she is rubbing my nuts. To me there is no better way to get off than this. And so an LDK is somewhere in between these extremes.
If I were to set up a 1-10 scale of getting off, here is how LDK would rank amongst all the others:
1 - Jacking off with my bare hands and lube.
4 - Handjob from a hottie.
6 - Handjob with nuts being rubbed from a hottie.
7 - LDK from a hottie.
9 - Really good blowjob with her tongue going crazy on the the bottom of my shaft and my nuts being rubbed from a hottie.
10 - Fucking a 10 in missionary, she has already came or is in the midst of it so her pussy is sopping wet, my hands are grabbing her ass and I am spreading her cheeks wide as I thrust, and, most importantly, she is rubbing my nuts.
Every PL will have his own scale and it is for him alone. Nobody else can define it. As you can see for me, an LDK is pretty high up there. But moreover, for me it evolved there. In my LDK inexperienced years it was probably at a 3. And the reason it can evolve is because you can refine the pleasure of it with time and experience.
The other part to this ranking is the literal monetary value that you put on each one. Again, only you can define this. The main point being is that with cost as a factor you can then consider the "worth" of paying for an LDK and then decide for yourself to do it. And from my experience it is worth it. The way I see it, I would spend the same amount of money to just go to a club without any happy ending, so it is a no brainer to end the night happy at the same cost. To me no happy ending is the zero on my scale above and it just cost me $50-$300 bucks which is about what I would pay at a typical night without LDKing.
Chapter 2: What to wear whilst LDKing?
I'm not going to get into too many specifics on this because it is a topic covered here a lot already. For me my #1 attire is my Foot Joy golf rain pants with no underwear. The pants have a simple double layer of VERY thin water resistant polyester.
The key to what to wear is basically thin and soft. And it can't create chafing friction. It may take some experimenting on what works for you, but you are essentially looking for materials that enhance the sensations on your dick and you shouldn't have anything down there that takes away from what feels good. Obviously nothing at all would be the best. Find attire that is as close to this as possible. A good test is to literally try on the pants or whatever and try to stroke yourself to a hard on with them on. If you can do it as well as you can naked, then those are good pants.
Also for me I like to wear a shirt that I can unbutton and if it is allowed/possible to do in the club I will do so. I love the feeling of all natural titties rubbing on my bare chest. And again, thin and soft applies to the shirt as well as pants. If I can't unbutton my shirt, I go with a golf or tee shirt. Nothing with pockets and seams and buttons on the chest.
Chapter 3: How to physically LDK.
Again, this is a very personal thing. I know there are guys that can't even fathom how I can LDK but now I'm at the point where I can't fathom why guys make it so hard. I can say for myself that the sensation of rubbing on the bottom of my dick with it pointing up at my belly is one that I have enjoyed during puberty and so that is probably why I can LDK without much issue. I used to look at playboys by laying on my belly and sort of dry hump a pillow as I looked at the centerfolds. It wasn't about getting off back then, it was just about what felt good. And LOL I was a virgin and it was also about practicing sex with a centerfold model. Anyway, rubbing on the bottom of my dick is a good feeling sensation so when I am getting a dance I maximize this position to its fullest extent.
On the flipside to the dick up position is when it is down inside your pants. This way, the top of your dick gets rubbed. While I may get a hard on in this position, I most definitely cannot LDK in it. Also I cannot LDK with my dick to either side.
Again the key is to find out what works for you and situate your dick in the position of maximum hard on stimulation.
Once your dick is set into position, then it becomes all about how to maximize the dancer rubbing on the part(s) of it that feel the best and keep you hard. Ultimately, this is the key: KEEP YOUR HARD ON and maximize the stimulation on it. Obviously not all of this is in your control and it depends on the dancer. This is the art of it. I'm not going to get into specifics again because it is so personal, but effectively you want to be doing as much of the same sexy things you would be doing as if you were having sex with the dancer. Like to grab tits when she is in the camel toe slide reverse cowgirl position? Do it! Also move your own pelvis the way you like it. For example I won't just sit there always. Sometimes I will gyrate my own hips or I will just push up and try to lift the dancer with my pelvis and press my dick up against her pussy and then let her grind on it that way instead of just sitting there relaxed (which I like too).
Also remember to reward good dancer behavior. I don't like to just tell a dancer what to do unless she asks. I like the art of trying to figure out the best positions WITH her through the act of it all. As soon as a dancer starts doing something right, that is when I give signals that it feels good. I may put out a little moan myself or do a slightly more aggressive pelvic thrust than others.
If, and hopefully, you are at the point of actually cumming, then just let it go. Especially if you are a n00b at it and can't yet control and pace it. There will be times when you are cumming or just getting to the point that you can feel one is coming on, and then the dancer will start getting out of position. There isn't much that you can do about this, so you have to just go with it or come back to it if she gets back into position. Again, this is the art of it.
And lastly, if there is any one golden rule of LDKing, to me it is to ALWAYS STAY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF YOUR DANCER. Don't ever get the dance to the point of her stopping what you are doing and calling you out. This will kill the mood if not the dance altogether. The hard on will be LOST. Again, this is the art of it. You can and should explore the limits, but don't push them to the point of no return.
Chapter 4: The psychology of LDK.
Probably the most important part of the LDK is to have the right psychology about it. So first and formost you should have the least amount of regret and remorse about it as you possibly can. Preferably none whatsoever. If you have some issue about LDKing then obviously it will affect your ability to do it. Understand that it is your goal and, pun intended, what you CAME for! So accept it and embrace it.
Also in the act of it I think it is good to look at it like you are masturbating. You are getting yourself off and so if you are imagining that you are actually fucking the dancer and it helps, then do it! Don't get distracted too much, unless you WANT to, about the other things going on around you. Stay in the fantasy of having sex with a hottie.
Most of all, RELAX and have a good time no matter what happens. And ALWAYS be positive.
Chapter 5: The business of LDK.
First and foremost on the business side of it, you need to find the dancers that like to do it or don't care or can't tell that you do. Don't ever try to convert a dancer or do one with her if you know she doesn't want that to happen. The best dancers of course are the ones that know and intend to get you to LDK. It is fully understood with my ATF but we have never once talked about it.
It is not necessary, but I prefer dancers that like actual sex with guys. If I'm with a true lesbian, she better be damn good at faking that she's into me and likes my dick. I like turning women on and teasing them myself so if I know the reality of it is a lost cause with a lesbian, it is a turn off.
As far as tipping, I won't always with my ATF because I'm so frequent with her, but it is always good to tip a dancer that has provided it as encouragement for future business.
And personally, I don't like it to be known that I LDK. I just let it happen and act like it was nothing. I go with a don't ask, don't tell policy with respect to it. If it is understood and implied with the dancer, that is good because then I know I have an LDK provider that has no issue. And if the dancer doesn't like it but doesn't know it, that is cool too. They key for me is to keep it low key. And LOL when a dancer says thanks for coming when it is over I just respond that it was my pleasure. Those are the dancers that know too but aren't calling it out as well.
Ok so that is it for now. I hope this can help some of you novice and potential LDKers out.
New member here, but longtime lurker and also longtime LDKer. I have been LDKing since before the term existed. My first LDK was at Deja Vu in downtown San Francisco back in the 90s. I can't remember the details but I'm pretty sure it was unintentional. But over the years of PL life I have learned to refine and master it for myself as completely intentional and the ultimate intent of why I go to a club. I have other reasons, but truly the LDK is the pinnacle of what I want in a club.
I have read a lot of posts about not being to LDK by numerous members. They can't even fathom it for themselves and some of the reasoning just cracks me up. This article is mainly for you PLs and any PL that is open to doing it intentionally. By writing it I hope to contribute to TUSCL since I have I have benefitted from all the awesome LDK and overall strip clubbing information here.
Chapter 1: Why should you consider the LDK?
This is probably the first thing you should define for yourself. The way I see it, there are various ways of getting off and each one has a level or value. The lowest level for me is to jack off with my bare hands and lube. The highest level for me is to be fucking a hottie missionary, she has already came or is in the midst of it so her pussy is sopping wet, my hands are grabbing her ass and I am spreading her cheeks wide as I thrust, and, most importantly, she is rubbing my nuts. To me there is no better way to get off than this. And so an LDK is somewhere in between these extremes.
If I were to set up a 1-10 scale of getting off, here is how LDK would rank amongst all the others:
1 - Jacking off with my bare hands and lube.
4 - Handjob from a hottie.
6 - Handjob with nuts being rubbed from a hottie.
7 - LDK from a hottie.
9 - Really good blowjob with her tongue going crazy on the the bottom of my shaft and my nuts being rubbed from a hottie.
10 - Fucking a 10 in missionary, she has already came or is in the midst of it so her pussy is sopping wet, my hands are grabbing her ass and I am spreading her cheeks wide as I thrust, and, most importantly, she is rubbing my nuts.
Every PL will have his own scale and it is for him alone. Nobody else can define it. As you can see for me, an LDK is pretty high up there. But moreover, for me it evolved there. In my LDK inexperienced years it was probably at a 3. And the reason it can evolve is because you can refine the pleasure of it with time and experience.
The other part to this ranking is the literal monetary value that you put on each one. Again, only you can define this. The main point being is that with cost as a factor you can then consider the "worth" of paying for an LDK and then decide for yourself to do it. And from my experience it is worth it. The way I see it, I would spend the same amount of money to just go to a club without any happy ending, so it is a no brainer to end the night happy at the same cost. To me no happy ending is the zero on my scale above and it just cost me $50-$300 bucks which is about what I would pay at a typical night without LDKing.
Chapter 2: What to wear whilst LDKing?
I'm not going to get into too many specifics on this because it is a topic covered here a lot already. For me my #1 attire is my Foot Joy golf rain pants with no underwear. The pants have a simple double layer of VERY thin water resistant polyester.
The key to what to wear is basically thin and soft. And it can't create chafing friction. It may take some experimenting on what works for you, but you are essentially looking for materials that enhance the sensations on your dick and you shouldn't have anything down there that takes away from what feels good. Obviously nothing at all would be the best. Find attire that is as close to this as possible. A good test is to literally try on the pants or whatever and try to stroke yourself to a hard on with them on. If you can do it as well as you can naked, then those are good pants.
Also for me I like to wear a shirt that I can unbutton and if it is allowed/possible to do in the club I will do so. I love the feeling of all natural titties rubbing on my bare chest. And again, thin and soft applies to the shirt as well as pants. If I can't unbutton my shirt, I go with a golf or tee shirt. Nothing with pockets and seams and buttons on the chest.
Chapter 3: How to physically LDK.
Again, this is a very personal thing. I know there are guys that can't even fathom how I can LDK but now I'm at the point where I can't fathom why guys make it so hard. I can say for myself that the sensation of rubbing on the bottom of my dick with it pointing up at my belly is one that I have enjoyed during puberty and so that is probably why I can LDK without much issue. I used to look at playboys by laying on my belly and sort of dry hump a pillow as I looked at the centerfolds. It wasn't about getting off back then, it was just about what felt good. And LOL I was a virgin and it was also about practicing sex with a centerfold model. Anyway, rubbing on the bottom of my dick is a good feeling sensation so when I am getting a dance I maximize this position to its fullest extent.
On the flipside to the dick up position is when it is down inside your pants. This way, the top of your dick gets rubbed. While I may get a hard on in this position, I most definitely cannot LDK in it. Also I cannot LDK with my dick to either side.
Again the key is to find out what works for you and situate your dick in the position of maximum hard on stimulation.
Once your dick is set into position, then it becomes all about how to maximize the dancer rubbing on the part(s) of it that feel the best and keep you hard. Ultimately, this is the key: KEEP YOUR HARD ON and maximize the stimulation on it. Obviously not all of this is in your control and it depends on the dancer. This is the art of it. I'm not going to get into specifics again because it is so personal, but effectively you want to be doing as much of the same sexy things you would be doing as if you were having sex with the dancer. Like to grab tits when she is in the camel toe slide reverse cowgirl position? Do it! Also move your own pelvis the way you like it. For example I won't just sit there always. Sometimes I will gyrate my own hips or I will just push up and try to lift the dancer with my pelvis and press my dick up against her pussy and then let her grind on it that way instead of just sitting there relaxed (which I like too).
Also remember to reward good dancer behavior. I don't like to just tell a dancer what to do unless she asks. I like the art of trying to figure out the best positions WITH her through the act of it all. As soon as a dancer starts doing something right, that is when I give signals that it feels good. I may put out a little moan myself or do a slightly more aggressive pelvic thrust than others.
If, and hopefully, you are at the point of actually cumming, then just let it go. Especially if you are a n00b at it and can't yet control and pace it. There will be times when you are cumming or just getting to the point that you can feel one is coming on, and then the dancer will start getting out of position. There isn't much that you can do about this, so you have to just go with it or come back to it if she gets back into position. Again, this is the art of it.
And lastly, if there is any one golden rule of LDKing, to me it is to ALWAYS STAY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF YOUR DANCER. Don't ever get the dance to the point of her stopping what you are doing and calling you out. This will kill the mood if not the dance altogether. The hard on will be LOST. Again, this is the art of it. You can and should explore the limits, but don't push them to the point of no return.
Chapter 4: The psychology of LDK.
Probably the most important part of the LDK is to have the right psychology about it. So first and formost you should have the least amount of regret and remorse about it as you possibly can. Preferably none whatsoever. If you have some issue about LDKing then obviously it will affect your ability to do it. Understand that it is your goal and, pun intended, what you CAME for! So accept it and embrace it.
Also in the act of it I think it is good to look at it like you are masturbating. You are getting yourself off and so if you are imagining that you are actually fucking the dancer and it helps, then do it! Don't get distracted too much, unless you WANT to, about the other things going on around you. Stay in the fantasy of having sex with a hottie.
Most of all, RELAX and have a good time no matter what happens. And ALWAYS be positive.
Chapter 5: The business of LDK.
First and foremost on the business side of it, you need to find the dancers that like to do it or don't care or can't tell that you do. Don't ever try to convert a dancer or do one with her if you know she doesn't want that to happen. The best dancers of course are the ones that know and intend to get you to LDK. It is fully understood with my ATF but we have never once talked about it.
It is not necessary, but I prefer dancers that like actual sex with guys. If I'm with a true lesbian, she better be damn good at faking that she's into me and likes my dick. I like turning women on and teasing them myself so if I know the reality of it is a lost cause with a lesbian, it is a turn off.
As far as tipping, I won't always with my ATF because I'm so frequent with her, but it is always good to tip a dancer that has provided it as encouragement for future business.
And personally, I don't like it to be known that I LDK. I just let it happen and act like it was nothing. I go with a don't ask, don't tell policy with respect to it. If it is understood and implied with the dancer, that is good because then I know I have an LDK provider that has no issue. And if the dancer doesn't like it but doesn't know it, that is cool too. They key for me is to keep it low key. And LOL when a dancer says thanks for coming when it is over I just respond that it was my pleasure. Those are the dancers that know too but aren't calling it out as well.
Ok so that is it for now. I hope this can help some of you novice and potential LDKers out.
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As you say - it's all about the mutual enjoyment when possible - not just going through the motion.
And for me it is 100% about a mutual enjoyment with my dancer. Although I can and will take no shame in a robotic grinder just getting me off, after 100s of LDKs, without a doubt the best ones are with a dancer that seems to be genuinely enjoying herself and we are both having fun. About two years ago I even stopped going to a reliable ATF for the very reason that she became robotic. LOL I found another ATF that at least pretended to be into it more.
Appendix: A perfect LDK visit with my ATF DS.
I arrive at the club in my favorite attire: my chosen pants, commando, and short sleeve button up shirt. As I enter the club I immediately see her at the bar, she looks fantastic as usual (she's a true 9 to me) and (bonus!) she has a new outfit on. Wow she is hot. I walk up to the bar staring at her perfectly peach shaped 40" booty and immediately set my hand on it as I pull up a stool and sit as close to her as possible. Since I have been her PL customer for a year now, she has absolutely no issue with me touching and cuddling and massaging her, so I take advantage of it every chance I get.
So as I'm sitting there rubbing and squeezing on her ass we chat a little small talk, and as we chat she is at her phone (she always is at her phone), so I am just free to look at her bountiful 38" DDDs spilling out of her new lace bodysuit and at the same time rub her ass with one hand and her leg with another. No matter how much I do it, I NEVER get tired of the feel of her skin. It is AMAZING to me. It is soft to touch but immediately becomes tight and pliant feeling. I can't describe it but it is the skin of an angel to me. So for about 10 minutes I get to just sit at the bar with her and basically give her a light back and ass rub as she waits to go onset and shows me pics and stuff on her phone. In the process of this I definitely get hard a few times because I am already so damn horny for her. At this point I also mention to her that we are going to do a 1/2 hour VIP.
She goes onstage and I follow her and watch it. I'm the only one too, so I get her all to myself (bonus!). As I watch her as usual I admire everything and take in as much as possible. She is a fantastic dancer, she has sensual moves but can also pop and twerk her booty with the best of them. She seduces me as usual and I just stare and tip with a huge boner at that point. And honestly I don't always get hard watching her so this is a good stage show for me. A couple of times during the dance she even sat on my lap for a few seconds and grinded on my dick cowgirl style and also moaning in my ear and rubbing her perfectly soft cheek into mine. Goddam she is driving me CRAZY. As she gives me those little grinds, I reciprocate a little and whisper, "you are so fucking sexy and you have me so rock hard; you are beautiful." She just smiles at me and goes back to the pole.
After the dance we go back to the bar again for more teasing and she wants to show me some more pics of her from her phone. So we sit down again but this time she hangs a little of her ass off the back of the stool so that I can spoon her with my dick hot dog style in her ass cheeks. I'm immediately hard again and it stays that way the whole time we sit there. So then she shows me all these pictures of her and a recent trip she took as I sit there with my dick hot dog on her ass for about 20 more minutes and I get to have this raging boner the whole time. All the while I'm looking at pictures of her from a recent lingerie shoot that she just did. Also as we talk I rub her back, her neck, her ass, her legs, and the sides of her tits and all the while I'm still lightly grinding my hard cock between her ass cheeks. So far in the total time of 30 minutes at the club, my dick has been hard about 25 of it. That is awesome for me. The night is already wonderful and it hasn't even started.
So she takes a break on her own for a while and that is fine with me since I get a chance to regroup after being so horny for her. As she freshens up for 20 minutes I read some TUSCL on my phone and make some texts. I also freshen up and then when she returns we go to the VIP room. And even though we have done this many times, because she's my ATF DS and always so beautiful, I am as excited as I was the first time I wanted dances from her. I follow her into the room in a trance as I watch her ass bounce.
Before we start the VIP I take off my shoes and unbutton my shirt, and while she is messing with her phone, she lets me take an ass shot pic of her with my phone. I told her I needed a pic of that new outfit. So then I'm waiting there and she's setting up a playlist on her phone for the 1/2 hour. And as she is standing there she turns around as I'm sitting on the bed with her ass right there in my face And for at least 10 minutes of off the clock time I'm still just rubbing on her ass, lightly kissing it, rubbing my cheeks against it and also my bare chest in it. And again I'm sitting there hard as a motherfucker. I even start thinking that I'm too excited and that she is going to make me bust a nut too soon. But LMAO I don't care. I continue to play with that ass all I want. I make it clap by rolling her thighs, I rub her legs up and down. Again I'm mesmerized by her skin and beauty and I just get to take it in even more with some awesome ass-play even before the dance starts.
So now the clock starts and already I'm working on edging rather than trying to ramp up to a boner. She keeps her lingerie on at first and gives me a slow and sensual tease by rubbing all of her body over mine. She briefly covers the usual positions but with just light teases on my cock. Since it is early in the dance, I just sit back and relax. With her lingerie on, there is a more sliding feeling on my cock rather than a rubbing one like when she is fully naked. She feels so good. Since she shifts positions a bit, I just stay rock hard and the changes kept me from going over the edge. At this point in the dance, I have let her have most of the control and I occasionally would thrust up into her but not much. I was saving myself. At this point, this is a well above average dance because I have stayed completely rock hard the entire time. She edged me perfectly. I am in VIP HEAVEN. I get everything from her in that lingerie: cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, face-to-face straddle, tits rub, wonderful air dance, tits in my face, hands all over tits/ass/legs/everything-but-pussy. She also gives me some OTP stick shifting which amps up the arousal, but again, she backs off so that I don't get too exited. It is still too early for me. She knows it and I know it so we just keep amping up the tease but don't get too aggressive with it.
After she undresses we go at it with more intensity, same positions are revisited but with full mutual and synchronized grinding. We match our rhythms to each other's. She gyrates her pussy all over my cock in numerous positions I can't even remember the sequence anymore so I will give the highlights only:
- Looking up at her tits bounce as she leans back in cowgirl and I can't see her face and only the bottom of her huge DDDs and silhouette of her nipples. It is such a beautiful sight.
- She titfucks me and squeezes her tits around my cock HARD. TWICE!! I just about nutted the second time. I told her she was so bad. She looked up and gave me a devilish smile.
- She squat rides me in cowgirl where she has her feet flat on the bed and just places her pussy right on the bottom side of my dick and gyrates, rubs, and bucks on it both soft and hard. This is an especially good position that was hard for me to control myself with.
- She straddles me in doggy/reverse cowgirl and pops her pussy on my dick as I match with upward thrusts. I also get to squeeze her ass cheeks apart and spread her open and see her moist and wet...wait for it...butterscotch pussy.
So again these are just highlights because the whole thing is still a blur and I'm still in the afterglow, but basically during each position I was hard as a rock and on edge the entire time.
And now as I'm really getting close to LDK, I have to focus now to stay away from the edge because I think it is only 15-20 minutes or so into the session, I want to LDK at the last minute so I almost hope she just slows down for a little and then I'll get aggressive and LDK myself. At least that was the plan, but what happened next LOL "ruined" everything for me. As she is in a reverse cowgirl position and I have my hands grabbing her ass and hips, she reaches down and starts...wait for it...RUBBING MY NUTS OTP!!! (JACKPOT!!!) So as I'm sitting there grinding, I'm quickly realizing that I'm getting my ultimate in sexual stimulation, which puts me on edge so bad it is getting very "hard" (LOL) to control myself. She rubs on them for just a few seconds, but by then that is all that was needed. I tried so hard to resist and I hold back for just a few more seconds for a few more thrusts. And just as she stops rubbing and gets up to go to another position, I let it go. I EXPLODE. And it is right up there with one of my best LDKs ever. My toes curl, I can't think, I try hard not to convulse. Whatever. It's wonderful. She's wonderful. I'm blown out of my mind at that point. While she has rubbed me there before, this time around it was right at the point of LDK and truly it rocked my world.
I cut the session short after a few more positions of winding down. She knows without asking that it is over and I ask how much time was left and she said five minutes. I pay up, we get dressed, and I take one more picture of her from a frontal view just to have both an ass and tits angle. (LOL I've never been able to decide whether or not I like her ass or tits better so I need a balance I guess.) As I am leaving the club we hug each other, I get in another ass rub (I'm such a lecher), and talk about when she is working later in the week. I walk out the door beaming and feeling like a new man and with an ear to ear smile on my face, ending a perfect LDK visit with my ATF DS.
The (Happy) End
So there you have my perspective of the LDK and making it a wonderful experience. This night was up there for me and I have had many good times with my ATF DS. I know it wasn't FS like you other PLs get, but for me it is EXACTLY what I want and it was and awesome and memorable experience with a 9.
Total cost: $170.
Total time at club with a raging boner: ~50 minutes.
# of LDKs: 1
Getting my nuts rubbed in the process of LDKing: priceless.
Epilogue: LDK mastery.
My ATF DS was at her other club today, gorgeous as usual. Before our dance we did a little spooning and cuddling and also I got to watch her stage show by myself again since it was the back one in the club. I won't get into all the dirty details here and just say that everything prior to the dance was more tease. She rubbed her ass into my dick as much as possible or she teased herself in front of me with her legs spread for four songs straight. Throughout the entire time I soaked in her beauty and anticipated how good the upcoming dances would be. I had a mindset tonight, though, that I was going to LDK as quickly as I could to save some money from my VIP last night. Tonight I wanted to pull off the difficult one song LDK, which I have only done once or twice in a very long time.
So anyway, we head to the common private dance area and I get situated. It starts awesome, she immediately gets in cowgirl which is one of my favorite and easy LDK positions. I'm immediately hard and immediately start matching her gyrations with my own subtle thrusts. It's feeling good and I'm loving it. I have a good hard on and I'm building up the arousal level on a good pace. I'm thinking I might actually get to an LDK before the song ended at the rate I was going. She air dances a little and also switches up positions and I lose my erection a little, but then she mounts me again and I get harder and start grabbing her ass with both hands. She lets me control the pace with my hands and so I start really focusing on a pace to make me LDK as soon as possible. I'm perfectly sliding her pussy up and down on the bottom of my cock at the rate I want. And it's great and I'm starting to feel an edge coming on. I'm thinking if she just lets me have a few more seconds like this I'm going to pop.
But then out of the blue, I hear the absolute worst words ever. The words no PL EVER wants to hear, yet has heard often. In a man's deep voice I hear, "NO HANDS, NO HANDS!" and a big ass bouncer is standing over the chair glaring at me. I of course take them off of her and he goes away, but wow that killed the mood instantly. I was shell shocked. And limp as fuck again. It turns out the club is a one-way contact club only. The rules are absolutely no hands on the dancer which I totally didn't know about since I got away with it there a week ago with her.
So then for the next few precious minutes, I am reset back to ground zero in terms of arousal and have to refocus my mind. It is spinning because I am so used to high mileage 2way contact with my ATF DS and now, after a year, I can't use my hands! WTF!?! She dances as I am regrouping but by then the first song is over and so is my boner.
So during the second song, I had to manage with just using my hips and hips alone and keep my hands to my side. Wow it was totally different not being able to touch her. She knew too and teased me about it. And she also had to be on her best behavior since she was new there. So she basically just gave me a vanilla one-way contact dance with a lot of position changes. So I managed with just my hips and rubbed my cock onto her body at every possible moment of contact. And it was MINIMAL, relatively speaking. So then for every time she was air dancing I had to focus to keep my hard on so that when she returned to contact with it I didn't have to re-stimulate it. It was totally the opposite of the night before where I stayed hard the entire time. This time I went soft about three times and I started getting stressed that the one-way was not enough stimulation anymore.
But alas, I'm with my ATF DS, and she's so awesome. Also I had to go back to the mindset I have when I'm looking for an LDQ and I'm not familiar with the dancer. I end up having to tune out everything else and just focus on her while blocking out everything else. I managed to keep a decent arousal level, and luckily we had the area alone because seeing someone out of the corner of my eye would have distracted me. So about half way into the song I am able to totally get back into the dance and adjusted as best possible to the new rules. I manage to keep a decent arousal level but it was not nearly as high as the night before. And again since she is so good to me, towards the end of the song she mounted me cowgirl again and pressed her breasts into my chest (I had a polo shirt on) and again put her cheek to mine and lightly moaned in my ear like she was getting turned on as I grinded into her. She never fails to find a way to turn me on. I got so hard at that point and knew I was close. Then she grinds on my dick lighter and lighter and keeps pulling away just about when the song was ending. LOL I was so close and I pushed my hips up into her pussy as she is pulling away so that I keep just enough contact with her in the final song seconds. LOL it was just enough contact to LDK just exactly as it ends. It wasn't as toe curling as the night before, but it was still a good LDK.
Total cost: $40 (bonus!)
So as I LDKed after about 25 min from another wonderful and 'perfect' VIP with my ATF DS the other night, she was still rubbing on me in the aftermath when all of a sudden she backs off and gives me and my crotch a dirty look and says "you're leaking". I freak out, look down, and sure enough I had a damp spot OTP. This has never happened before and so LOL I think over time that my pants don't full prevent seepage through the fibers anymore. And I also thought, judging by the look on her face, that she was just finding out that I had been LDKing all along and she had a big issue with it. My mind was racing because I thought it would be the end of our 'arrangement'. She was pretty pissed.
So I end up apologizing profusely and give her a $50 tip. I explain to her that I thought my pants would contain things and that I thought she knew I did that. To my relief, she said she didn't have issue that I came (LOL her words were "it's not uncommon"), her #1 issue was getting jizz on her but that was it! I was so relieved she wasn't ending things with me. And it again confirmed that the bigger issue with LDKing is to keep your jizz contained. LOL I learned the magnitude of my ATF DS's germophobia. She's a neat freak and fluids/jizz repulse her. All she asked of me as I left was to ensure it wouldn't be an issue in the future. I promised her that wouldn't be a problem.
So then yesterday I saw her again but this time I wore my cotton/lycra boxer briefs inside my golf pants. When we cuddled and spooned before the dance I told her that I was really sorry again and that I better prepared and showed her the elastic on my underwear. She laughed and said thanks and that she appreciated that tip. She played it off like no big deal.
And to confirm we we're all good, the VIP we had was so good. I found out that the underwear feels even better than commando because it allows for the polyester from the pants to slide over the underwear creating a nice sensation as opposed to the polyester rubbing on my bare cock. Also overall the feeling was softer with the added layer. And then to top things off she upped her tease/LDK game on me! Wow. She gave me everything in her bag of tricks and kept me hard and on edge the entire dance. She was aggressive as fuck on my dick and also let me go to town on her. And she just knew when to back off to keep me from LDKing too soon. Just when I thought her LDs were already perfect, she took it up another notch and I blew my mind and my load. And I kept it all ITP. And for that, I think she'll be "rewarding" me with LDKs for the foreseeable future!
So, by getting just a little bit of jizz on my dancer, I learned a valuable lesson on how important it is NOT to do that and to always respect my dancer's limits, and I came out with better feeling attire (soft cotton lycra is a good material) and even better dances from my ATF DS. That's LDK winning in my book.
SJG
In doing such they've created an entire race of chumps like SirLapDance
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There are plenty of TUSCL members that
Again you have already made your point twice here. And LMAO because it is already well known that you are a blathering idiotic TUSCL troll, I know you won't be able to resist and you will post here again, so I am just calling it out for fun. But after this, I'm done with you. Post all you want. It's going to be the same exact thing over and over and over again.
LOL and I'm the chump for getting exactly what I want in a club. And yes I get all the free civie time I want too! You're the chump that can't even start his own article on your own way to enjoy a strip club! You should have a little more balls than being a troll to someone else, but I doubt you are capable if this because your reputation precedes you.
Post all you want now and demonstrate you are everything that I just called you out on. Bye!
Rather than being willing to hear this, you just do on and on.
SJG
So even though I have been enjoying the LDK with beautiful ATFs for years and I was thinking that I had figured it all out, since writing this article I have learned even more. I learned that commando is not the best way for me and to make damn sure not to get jizz on my dancer. So rather than thinking of having LDK 'mastery', I now see it simply as a fun journey that I can continually improve upon.
For example my relationship with my ATF DS and the other beautiful strippers at the club is even better now. Although I don't get dances with anyone besides my ATF DS, all the other strippers know me and since I tip them at the rack they have my back. They tell me if my ATF DS is coming in or they tell her that I've arrived if she is in the back. And we always share weed with each other now. It's a cool scene now that I've been a regular there for so long.
And with my ATF DS it is great that we have worked out and finally talked openly about my LDKing. That I fully intend and want it is understood and so are our rules about it. No jizz on her and no touching each other's naked genitals. Those are the rules and by abiding by them I can LDK with my ATF DS anytime that I want during dances and VIPs. And now that she knows me and what gets me hard and what makes me LDK, she does it all to tease me to a continuous raging boner and again just finish me when she knows that I finally want to LDK. And wow I can say without doubt now that I'm having the best LDKs of my PL LIFE! even though I've had hundreds over the years. And it came from continually improving how they feel and also my relationship with my ATF DS.
Also out on the main floor my "civie" relationship with her has improved. When I show up to the club within 15 minutes or less she is in my lap and I have a raging boner in between her ass cheeks as I play with them and stroke my own dick with them. I get this on a regular basis now for at least 15 min every visit. It's awesome! Tonight as we spooned like this she shared pics of her hot sister with me as we chatted and also LOL the entire time I lightly grinded my hard dick against her ass as she wiggled back on it. The civie dick teasing with her is now off the charts good. LMAO it's not even "civie" play because it really is a teasing LD under the guise of spooning to the music. I'm so spoiled by it now too. It's become LDK foreplay. I go to the club and now I literally have a boner almost the whole time I'm there. And I don't even need to tip for any of it. Ultimately it is because my ATF DS trusts me and wants me to have a good time as a friend and as a good customer. I even know her true name and how to find her on her civie social media, but since she gives me so much good GFE dick teasing I keep everything with her and between us in the club. I couldn't ask for a better ATF DS relationship. We have zero drama which is a rare thing in a strip club.
And so from all of this I simply continue to refine my LDK game and be open to the fact that it can always get better and more enjoyable. Even for me and my personal rating system in Chapter 1, I can now rank a good LDK with my ATF DS an 8-8.5 instead of a 7. Not quite as good as a really good BJ, but damn close.
SJG
LMAO so now continue to watch him keep posting in here and say the same things over and over and over again because he is exactly what I said he is.
Hard to believe that there is anyone on this planet who would be bragging about LDKing with beautiful girls.
SJG
Also don't worry about san_jose_guy. He has issues and internal demons well beyond hating on LDKing. Just note that if you engage him, he will never (ever) stop until he gets the last word in. He is a blathering idiotic autistic narcissist. Trust me on this.
LDK = Cumming in your pants during a lapdance. Named for LapDanceKing.
And LMAO you rubbed one out in a club because of a dancer instead of LDK! ROFLMAO that is truly different strokes for different folks!!!
SirLapdance is an uncommon breed of extreme idiot. I don't actually care what he does. He isn't worth worrying about.
But for everyone not like him, they should know the truth, that you don't have to take what is being offered in strip clubs at face value. If you present yourself as an idiot and a pervert, that is how you will be treated. But if you instead treat the girls as ordinary girls, and seek one that you like, then you will be treated like a king.
SJG
@latinalover so let's stop for a moment right here, right before you had to get up and leave to rub one out in the bathroom. I say, why not just busy a nut in your pants right then and there and have fun doing it with a fine ass AA stroking your cock as you cum. Trust me, it's at least as good as jerking off solo if not much much better. With proper preparation you won't have to worry about getting jizz OTP. Let me give you a typical example of a good LDK with a willing dancer...
I just got back from seeing my ATF DS. When I got there she was with another customer so I waited 20 min and watched football until she was available.
As per our typical routine she sits at a bar stool and hangs her ass over the edge so that I can sit spoon right behind her and set my dick and balls, ITP, to lay right on top of her ass cheeks. And as I sit there like that, she wiggles her ass on my dick and balls, I wiggle my dick and balls up against her ass cheeks, I also get to wiggle her ass as it shakes my dick and balls, and I also get to stroke my own dick and balls with her ass cheeks. As I sit there like that I also give her a GFE back and neck rub, and I alternate between ass play and massage for over 20 minutes. The whole time I am rock hard and all I have spent us $5 for my own drink. As I sit there like that with her she is texting her family and friends on her phone and/or she shows me some pics on her phone. We small talk and chat about recent events as we spoon and groove to the music and the entire time she is keeping me so hard with her ass rubbing all over my dick and balls. Before we even get dances, I am already so hard from all that spooning and flirting with my ATF DS who is an all natural 9 as far as I'm concerned.
Then I watch her on stage for two songs and tip her $5 total. During her set I don't get quite as hard but I do get it up when she sits on me cowgirl and gives me a 10 second cock grind.
So far, I've spent a total of $10 and have about 30 min of raging hard on beyond GFE tease by a 9. So despite what san_jose_guy thinks, I'd say I've already had a good night for $10.
But that is just my warm up. I then get three very high mileage 2 way contact and fully nude lap dances for $25 each. I cannot touch or rub her pussy but I can touch and rub and grab anywhere else constantly for the entire three songs. And then for long periods of time she just sits there and sets her pussy right on the top of my balls and her pussy lips are right on top of the underside of my hard cock while she just let's me grab her ass and dry fuck her from below and control all the grinding on my cock exactly as I like it. And the whole time she shakes her all natural DDDs in my face and on my bare chest, while also moaning and groaning in my ear like she is getting off good. I love that shit! It makes me so fucking hard. She also goes to a multitude of sexy positions and all the while she pays most of the attention on my cock and balls. Whatever the position, she seems to always find a way to stimulate them with either her body or her hands OTP. I'm always fully hard within the first minute of the first song and the rest of the way I stay rock hard because she pays attention to me and doesn't ever air dance but for only a few seconds during transitions.
And then towards the last half of the third song, my ATF DS knows how to finish and take care if me. She gets back in cowgirl position but this time she is on her feet with them at both sides of me as she squats on my cock that is so hard I'm ready to explode. She is wide open spread eagle on my crotch and I am spreading her ass and grabbing it as she lets me grind up against her pussy at exactly the pace that I want as I LDK with us face to face, her soft tits in my chest, and me thrusting the bottom of my hard cock on her wet pussy lips. And then just to make sure I get off good, she reaches behind herself and rubs my balls as I am coming. Hard. I swear my toes curled and my eyes rolled because I came so hard. It was awesome. And again it was much better than jerking off solo. And it cost me $85 ($75 + $10 tip).
As I leave we chat about her schedule later in the week and we give each other a last hug and cheek kiss goodbye. We are both smiling and all totaled I spent $95. It was a wonderful night with 30 min of GFE flirt time with a raging boner between the ass cheeks of an all natural 9, a sexy stage dance tease, and a three dance LDK my favorite way: with my nuts being rubbed OTP as I came. So I don't know how to look at this as somehow being a chump. I had an awesome time with a beautiful 9, exactly the time I wanted, that ended very happy for $95 total. That's PL LIFE! winning. @latinalover69 you should try it out.
At the same club I also had dances from two other strippers. I probably could have LDKed with both of them too but elected not to and just got 1-2 topless floor dances from each. And, for the record, I enjoyed them without the LDK.
Yet another one of her autistic obsessive diatribes on the daily. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
Everything else looks to be okay.
SJG
"No discussions found. This is what censorship looks like."
I assume that this is founder tinkering with something.
SJG
"Discussion not found. This is what censorship looks like."
It might have even accepted and put up a post I had entered, but if I try to seen any discussion thread I cannot.
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