Background
New member here, but longtime lurker and also longtime LDKer. I have been LDKing since before the term existed. My first LDK was at Deja Vu in downtown San Francisco back in the 90s. I can't remember the details but I'm pretty sure it was unintentional. But over the years of PL life I have learned to refine and master it for myself as completely intentional and the ultimate intent of why I go to a club. I have other reasons, but truly the LDK is the pinnacle of what I want in a club.
I have read a lot of posts about not being to LDK by numerous members. They can't even fathom it for themselves and some of the reasoning just cracks me up. This article is mainly for you PLs and any PL that is open to doing it intentionally. By writing it I hope to contribute to TUSCL since I have I have benefitted from all the awesome LDK and overall strip clubbing information here.
Chapter 1: Why should you consider the LDK?
This is probably the first thing you should define for yourself. The way I see it, there are various ways of getting off and each one has a level or value. The lowest level for me is to jack off with my bare hands and lube. The highest level for me is to be fucking a hottie missionary, she has already came or is in the midst of it so her pussy is sopping wet, my hands are grabbing her ass and I am spreading her cheeks wide as I thrust, and, most importantly, she is rubbing my nuts. To me there is no better way to get off than this. And so an LDK is somewhere in between these extremes.
If I were to set up a 1-10 scale of getting off, here is how LDK would rank amongst all the others:
1 - Jacking off with my bare hands and lube. 4 - Handjob from a hottie. 6 - Handjob with nuts being rubbed from a hottie. 7 - LDK from a hottie. 9 - Really good blowjob with her tongue going crazy on the the bottom of my shaft and my nuts being rubbed from a hottie. 10 - Fucking a 10 in missionary, she has already came or is in the midst of it so her pussy is sopping wet, my hands are grabbing her ass and I am spreading her cheeks wide as I thrust, and, most importantly, she is rubbing my nuts.
Every PL will have his own scale and it is for him alone. Nobody else can define it. As you can see for me, an LDK is pretty high up there. But moreover, for me it evolved there. In my LDK inexperienced years it was probably at a 3. And the reason it can evolve is because you can refine the pleasure of it with time and experience.
The other part to this ranking is the literal monetary value that you put on each one. Again, only you can define this. The main point being is that with cost as a factor you can then consider the "worth" of paying for an LDK and then decide for yourself to do it. And from my experience it is worth it. The way I see it, I would spend the same amount of money to just go to a club without any happy ending, so it is a no brainer to end the night happy at the same cost. To me no happy ending is the zero on my scale above and it just cost me $50-$300 bucks which is about what I would pay at a typical night without LDKing.
Chapter 2: What to wear whilst LDKing?
I'm not going to get into too many specifics on this because it is a topic covered here a lot already. For me my #1 attire is my Foot Joy golf rain pants with no underwear. The pants have a simple double layer of VERY thin water resistant polyester.
The key to what to wear is basically thin and soft. And it can't create chafing friction. It may take some experimenting on what works for you, but you are essentially looking for materials that enhance the sensations on your dick and you shouldn't have anything down there that takes away from what feels good. Obviously nothing at all would be the best. Find attire that is as close to this as possible. A good test is to literally try on the pants or whatever and try to stroke yourself to a hard on with them on. If you can do it as well as you can naked, then those are good pants.
Also for me I like to wear a shirt that I can unbutton and if it is allowed/possible to do in the club I will do so. I love the feeling of all natural titties rubbing on my bare chest. And again, thin and soft applies to the shirt as well as pants. If I can't unbutton my shirt, I go with a golf or tee shirt. Nothing with pockets and seams and buttons on the chest.
Chapter 3: How to physically LDK.
Again, this is a very personal thing. I know there are guys that can't even fathom how I can LDK but now I'm at the point where I can't fathom why guys make it so hard. I can say for myself that the sensation of rubbing on the bottom of my dick with it pointing up at my belly is one that I have enjoyed during puberty and so that is probably why I can LDK without much issue. I used to look at playboys by laying on my belly and sort of dry hump a pillow as I looked at the centerfolds. It wasn't about getting off back then, it was just about what felt good. And LOL I was a virgin and it was also about practicing sex with a centerfold model. Anyway, rubbing on the bottom of my dick is a good feeling sensation so when I am getting a dance I maximize this position to its fullest extent.
On the flipside to the dick up position is when it is down inside your pants. This way, the top of your dick gets rubbed. While I may get a hard on in this position, I most definitely cannot LDK in it. Also I cannot LDK with my dick to either side.
Again the key is to find out what works for you and situate your dick in the position of maximum hard on stimulation.
Once your dick is set into position, then it becomes all about how to maximize the dancer rubbing on the part(s) of it that feel the best and keep you hard. Ultimately, this is the key: KEEP YOUR HARD ON and maximize the stimulation on it. Obviously not all of this is in your control and it depends on the dancer. This is the art of it. I'm not going to get into specifics again because it is so personal, but effectively you want to be doing as much of the same sexy things you would be doing as if you were having sex with the dancer. Like to grab tits when she is in the camel toe slide reverse cowgirl position? Do it! Also move your own pelvis the way you like it. For example I won't just sit there always. Sometimes I will gyrate my own hips or I will just push up and try to lift the dancer with my pelvis and press my dick up against her pussy and then let her grind on it that way instead of just sitting there relaxed (which I like too).
Also remember to reward good dancer behavior. I don't like to just tell a dancer what to do unless she asks. I like the art of trying to figure out the best positions WITH her through the act of it all. As soon as a dancer starts doing something right, that is when I give signals that it feels good. I may put out a little moan myself or do a slightly more aggressive pelvic thrust than others.
If, and hopefully, you are at the point of actually cumming, then just let it go. Especially if you are a n00b at it and can't yet control and pace it. There will be times when you are cumming or just getting to the point that you can feel one is coming on, and then the dancer will start getting out of position. There isn't much that you can do about this, so you have to just go with it or come back to it if she gets back into position. Again, this is the art of it.
And lastly, if there is any one golden rule of LDKing, to me it is to ALWAYS STAY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF YOUR DANCER. Don't ever get the dance to the point of her stopping what you are doing and calling you out. This will kill the mood if not the dance altogether. The hard on will be LOST. Again, this is the art of it. You can and should explore the limits, but don't push them to the point of no return.
Chapter 4: The psychology of LDK.
Probably the most important part of the LDK is to have the right psychology about it. So first and formost you should have the least amount of regret and remorse about it as you possibly can. Preferably none whatsoever. If you have some issue about LDKing then obviously it will affect your ability to do it. Understand that it is your goal and, pun intended, what you CAME for! So accept it and embrace it.
Also in the act of it I think it is good to look at it like you are masturbating. You are getting yourself off and so if you are imagining that you are actually fucking the dancer and it helps, then do it! Don't get distracted too much, unless you WANT to, about the other things going on around you. Stay in the fantasy of having sex with a hottie.
Most of all, RELAX and have a good time no matter what happens. And ALWAYS be positive.
Chapter 5: The business of LDK.
First and foremost on the business side of it, you need to find the dancers that like to do it or don't care or can't tell that you do. Don't ever try to convert a dancer or do one with her if you know she doesn't want that to happen. The best dancers of course are the ones that know and intend to get you to LDK. It is fully understood with my ATF but we have never once talked about it.
It is not necessary, but I prefer dancers that like actual sex with guys. If I'm with a true lesbian, she better be damn good at faking that she's into me and likes my dick. I like turning women on and teasing them myself so if I know the reality of it is a lost cause with a lesbian, it is a turn off.
As far as tipping, I won't always with my ATF because I'm so frequent with her, but it is always good to tip a dancer that has provided it as encouragement for future business.
And personally, I don't like it to be known that I LDK. I just let it happen and act like it was nothing. I go with a don't ask, don't tell policy with respect to it. If it is understood and implied with the dancer, that is good because then I know I have an LDK provider that has no issue. And if the dancer doesn't like it but doesn't know it, that is cool too. They key for me is to keep it low key. And LOL when a dancer says thanks for coming when it is over I just respond that it was my pleasure. Those are the dancers that know too but aren't calling it out as well.
Ok so that is it for now. I hope this can help some of you novice and potential LDKers out.
