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2 years ago
Sometimes you want to go to the club and it gets late. A lot of dancers come in late. Otc and escorts can be arranged during the day usually
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2 years ago
Icee plenty of people do so. You talk about how finessing tricks is so cool and righteous but draw the line at cheating
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Rick what about these guys just giving these strippers free money for nothing? Like the stripper is at a restaurant and hes not even there but pays the bill.
Some of these guys believe in giving donations to hot women, without expecting anything in return. They may also use her for erotic entertainment, yet simultaneously also give her free money.
I cant say how the girl herself would perceive that person, but there are certain guys who will just give money without expecting anything in return. These onlyfans and internet sex girls post their amazon wishlists and things for that reason. Some Anonymous fans of theirs will just buy them stuff
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2 years ago
Comon Icee
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Icee posted on many threads that someone who’s dating or in a relationship with a stripper is in the superior position because they dont have to pay for her while all the other tricks have to pay.
But come to find out tricks are usually just paying $200-$300 for each encounter. Icee stated he paid for his girlfriend dancers parents living arrangements, her schooling, and bought her tons of handbags and designer items, in addition to offering her 5k if she said she didn’t love him.
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2 years ago
Even people in relationships even people who are married dont pay for their spouses school, parents, or spend thousands on gifts constantly. All that stuff id going above and beyond. Its one thing if a PL pays a few hundred for otc or for a high level escort and then moves on or has other options. It’s something else entirely to invest all your funds on one stripper over 5 years.
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
If they’re donating money to a homeless person that’s different, if theure donating money to women based on how hot theu are that is what simping is. In fact youve talked in one thread you were advising someone to finesse tricks for money and get them to put stuff in their name for her.
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I never said anyone not fucking me or someone else is a rob. People have explained to you many many times what a rob is and you change the narrative and start saying they’re not robs they’re just finessing tricks who deserve to be finessed. Yes they are simps when they do stuff like give hundreds of dollars for free to random women that is what a simp or “noble pervert” is. You’re trying to justify and promote guys just handing out hundreds or thousands of free dollars to dancers because you’ve admitted you want to help them hustle and finesse.
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
The real cucks have an actual cuckold fetish. They encourage their wives to sleep around. The boyfriend pimps dating these strippers or escorts seem to develop a whole different set of issues. They don’t actually enjoy their girl sleeping around, but they love money so much or need money so they reluctantly tolerate her hoeing.
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Whats incel speak icee? Anybody who doesnt cover the restaurant bill for sex workers?
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
But this is what they call the simp. These guys who do things like pay a dancer money to take her out than also pay for her dinner. Ilb mentioned he knew a group of strippers who would go out to eat and apparently just call one of their regulars and he would cover the bill. Some people think hot girls deserve to have money donated to them just for being hot
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2 years ago
Icee you don’t understand all those people you make fun of. They pay a nominal amount for sex, they move on, or they see her once in a while while also seeing others.
You went far beyond a standard trick or even RIL. You paid for her school, her parents. Gave her many thousands of dollars by the looks of things.
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
How did you figure hes Indian? An indian guy I knew would always say coz like you say it
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2 years ago
Rick the logic these guys use is referring to themselves as pimps, and their girls clients as simps or tricks.
These guys are the modern boyfriend pimps who are nothing like the original 1900 pimps. The actual pimps had an element of violence, control, and detachment which allowed them to pimp out 10 or more women at once. The ones who fell in love with any of their women failed and probably couldn’t successfully pimp.
The modern boyfriend pimp is one guy who is completely loyal to one woman who strips or fucks for money. It’s a completely different scenario, has nothing to do with pimping, and their girl often has more respect for her clients than she does for her own man. It’s basically a role reversal of the housewife who stays at home while her rich husband is busy working and cheating around with other women or with hookers. It’s basically a house husband, but it’s a much more embarrassing form of house husband than for instance a house husband with a doctor or lawyer wife or other lucrative career where she isn’t rubbing on men or having sex. Those wives might cheat on their husband but it won’t be like an escort or stripper
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2 years ago
Drew doesn’t one dance cost just like $30?
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2 years ago
“I'm all for robs. Most of the time the tricks do something to deserve it”
So its fine for dancers to be assaulted or robbed then? They deserved it?
Asking for otc doesn’t mean someone deserves to be robbed.
The reason robs do what they do is because of poor family, poor upbringing, poor moral values etc. has nothing to do with someone deserving it. Robs don’t selectively pick people to rob
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2 years ago
None of the pics show her face. sHe doesnt have unique tattoos. So those pics could very well be her.
The logic of “strippers have never scammed and are incapable of scamming “ isnt true.
You didnt say it in this post but youce said on other threads that its ok for dancers to steal or scam because it counts as hustling and finessing
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2 years ago
Rick regarding the thickness I thought a lot of guys prefer that these days to skinnier girls.
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2 years ago
Icee theres evil people, or there can be evil people in any profession. That includes presidents, ceos, fast food workers, and strippers and sex workers.
It’s absolutely ridiculous to say that strippers or sex workers cant be evil or scammers. Some of them are literally making an entire living off stealing and scamming.
Its also ridiculous to say the same about strip club clients.
The OP doesn’t show her face in any pictures so its easily possible that is her in the pictures since she is anonymous basically. Its not logical to say strippers have never scammed in human history or that they’re incapable of doing scams like this.
The truth is in any profession you’ll have some evil people and some good people. What % are evil vs what % is not is up for debate since we dont have the data. But you can’t deny the individual circumstances. Like you shouldn’t say this nba player, this cop or this stripper got caught scamming or killing therefore everyone in that profession is involved.
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2 years ago
Ishmael thats kind of what i was getting at. Even with strippers and even escorts youre never supposed to directly offer cash for sex work. It’s illegal and its also considered socially offensive.
Some kf these older guys have had success doing it in college bars and also restaurant waitresses. College girls especially fit into the category of someone who wouldn’t want to strip/escort online due to the legal issues and social stigma and professional stigma.
The legal issues alone means you’ll never be able to straight up offer cash for sex you’d have to get to know the person and see them often at their workplace or bar.
It’s possible hooters waitresses are more open to p4p than other waitresses. Stripping has a social and professional stigma to it. Escorting and sugaring have those stigmas plus the legal stigma as well. If you do want to do it with waitresses it might be better to do it after you’ve paid for the meal.
The “silver fox” men who have gray silver hair and are super attractive and ripped, those guys can probably get lots of younger women without paying. But paying can still help them to get even more. It could be someone is on the fence about someone but the money turns it into an easy yes
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2 years ago
Why hasnt florida legalized this already? Is it religious conservatism holding them back
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2 years ago
Whats an alpha trick?
Why do you have a dislike for people paying sex workers icee
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Theres nothing special or skillful about scamming people
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Icee its not that the dancer or escort likes her boyfriend better its that the boyfriend is willing to give her love and commitment whereas the trick as you call it only wants to see them for sex. The boyfriend doesnt have to pay money but he’s paying with time and loyalty
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Icee you mentioned concrete thinking.
You understand just because a stripper is doing otc with one person doesnt mean she would do it with anyone even if the same money was i volved?
Some strippers are high volume otc like escorts, some are low volume and very selective. You’re assuming an otc stripper is all about money thats not the case. Just like some civvie girls will do it for money with one guy but not another. Or just like a civvie girl will get into a relationship where she’s financially supported with one guy but not another.