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2 years ago
^Subi owns it. He owns several other clubs in metro Detroit, so he's not hurting for money to keep this particular club open. I have heard from others than it actu does get busy on the weekends, though that's just hearsay from dancer friends and a porter who works there that comes in to see me at Players when he's not working. If anything, I've heard Penthouse is doing worse than Coli and it's still newly reopened.
discussion comment
2 years ago
Lmfao vice SHUT them down. 😂😂😂🤦🏼♀️
review comment
2 years ago
^10-15 is often too long of time for us to sit with a customer negotiating. If you can't figure it out within two to three songs, move on.
OP, you're right about the stage. I hate being on that stage because I feel like I'm going to fall off at any moment. And I hate doing the reviews on that stage because it takes one angry girl to push another girl, then suddenly it's a giant domino effect of strippers falling off this 20 or so inch wide stage. The restroom debacle we have at LS is another issue I have with the place, but that's irrelevant here.
As for prices, we charge what we feel we are worth. It's up to you to decide if you want to pay what we feel were worth or not. As others have said, it's best to have that discussion upstairs. And there are some people who do normal dances. It's sometimes preferred to just do more than normal dances because you can sometimes make twice or triple the amount in one song then you could in a series of songs.
discussion comment
2 years ago
No. Vice shit them down. One of the old house moms works at Players now and said she arrived to work one day to find new locks on the doors and nobody could get in. The owners never told the staff that the place was shut down and that house mom never got her stuff back.
discussion comment
2 years ago
"Getting Back into the Game (of Wasting Money on WOMEN). There. I fixed the title for you. Maybe you could start off with having some respect for your fellow human beings who are sex workers. And if that's too difficult for you, then just stay your ass at home.
review comment
2 years ago
It's really weird when people list off the details of every girl working. Why stop at physical appearance and not add real name, address, SSN, and phone number, too?
discussion comment
2 years ago
Extras girls and extras friendly clubs are actually a minority across the US. When I was a newbie stripper, I was anti-extras and used to out and publicly humiliate customers who would come in and ask for anything more than dances. "Hey everyone! This guy just ask me to suck his dick for $100!" and then all of the dancers, DJ, and bouncers would gang up on the guy shaming him verbally until he/they would leave. Most of the girls there did that, so it was a club culture thing.
Just read up on the club before I going to see what it's about instead of asking at the club. It gets quite old and annoying to be repeatedly asked about extras at non-extras clubs.
discussion comment
2 years ago
I returned today after taking a mental health break from all things sex work related to find that the discussion forums have been, surprisingly, on topic as of recent. Perhaps the trolls finally grew up (or gave up).
discussion comment
2 years ago
She might be on porn companions. I'm too lazy to look, but throwing out the suggestion in case you weren't aware of the site.
discussion comment
2 years ago
I've used it before. It's amazing how few people know about it. It does pose obvious safety and privacy issues for sex workers and customers though.
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2 years ago
You do know that spinners are defined by height and not plastic surgery, right?
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2 years ago
Our tip out here is ~$138 on night shift and ~$113 on day shift. $1 isn't shit to get our attention. I've given $1 bills back to customers for acting like it's a big deal to have even given it to me in the first place. Don't get up and go out of your way to tip $1. 😂
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2 years ago
If you brought any of those issues up with the managers, especially the day time manager, I guarantee they'd look into fixing things. The managers never use the restrooms on the main floors and they don't view the club the same way customers do. Feedback to them would definitely help. And PHC is garbage, so good luck with that, too
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2 years ago
It's great when there is a home sports game since Ford Field, Comerica Par, and Little Caesars Arena are all down the street. Any conferences or concerts bring business in. And then there are like 5 people I work with who are close to me. The rest of the clubs in the city (not the suburbs) are dead and empty with tumbleweeds.
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2 years ago
I was there last night - blonde wearing all pink. It was so busy because of the Quick Lane Bowl/College Football Finals. Most of the dancers sleep on it and it's the day after Christmas, so we didn't have as many girls as we usually do.
Prices are accurate. We're allowed to set our own so long as we don't go below club minimum. Most do $40/song or 3 for $100 and some girls do $25/song or $30/song.
The "discount" for being on schedule isn't a discount. If we're not on schedule, we pay an additional $50 freelance fee every shift we work. The benefit of going on schedule is saving $150 if I were to work 3 nights as a freelancer.
Table dances and stage money are more preferred over giving lap dances. I hate table dances, but our base tip out goes from $35 to $50 if we do at least one dance. And that doesn't include laye fees, house mom and DJ tip out, valet, or the freelance fee.
I'm not sure how late you were there, but more girls came in after 9pm and most will start actually hustling and mingling more around that time.
discussion comment
2 years ago
I predict it will become increasingly more difficult to make a fraction of what I was a year ago due to economic strife. I predict more girls flocking to stripping thinking it's quick and *easy* money without realizing they actually have to talk to customers and not just go on stage. I predict club tip outs and house fees rising all over by a smidge to cover increasing taxes and other inflation related shit. I also predict (and hope) this will be my last year because it's becoming increasingly more and more difficult to sustain a living on my own without help for my bills and rent as more girls are hired and foot traffic continues to decline.
discussion comment
2 years ago
VIPs "opened" without curtains in Fall 2017. Girls were still doing all of the extras until May 2018 (at my club at least). All of the clubs got shut down notices from my understanding. Some just chose not to comply. For a minute, recently, vice was disbanded. However, they're back together as of the week PHC reopened. I haven't heard of any raids yet though.
review comment
2 years ago
...3 FS VIPs in one day shift? Even as a female, I'm like...how? I hear of most men being able to do maybe two. You deserve a medal.
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2 years ago
Whoops. *I have NOT asked more from the employee. My bad. He works at Coli and Pent both though, and I feel he'd just lie to me at this point if I were to ask more
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2 years ago
Things I've heard as heresay:
An actual hourly employee: girls were "doing illegal things in VIP and there were definitely undercovers there" on opening night. I have asked more since the day after opening night.
Unrelated person to sex work who works elsewhere, but knows a house mom at Pent: "girls have to work two days shifts if they want to work nights"
A dancer who was there opening night: "it sucked and there were no customers. Thank God there was no tip out over the weekend."
A different dancer who worked with me last Sunday in downtown: "they were texting me [Saturday night] asking me to come in because there were only four girls." She didn't state what time that happened at.
I don't know if those are true statements, but just what I've heard.
I had full intentions to go on opening night and the day after, but had some unexpected stuff happen and couldn't make it out.
They've updated their Instagram with photos from opening weekend though.
discussion comment
2 years ago
I haven't heard great things from girls I work with who went to PHC opening weekend.
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2 years ago
^ thank you! That helped a lot. I'm pretty certain I'm going to go with Landing Strip. I won't be able to go until next week sometime and it'll probably be for one or two shifts until after the New Year.
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2 years ago
I think I decided to give LS another shot before trying FC again.
Vice is back together again, so I wouldn't dare try to do extras in the city limits. I've never been to Trumpp's, but I hate working somewhere with a small selection of customers.
I'm assuming the smell at LS is from not washing the carpets or curtains. VIP attendants always say they get washed and I know better than to believe them.
I also remember LS having a slightly lower quality in dancer maturity. I mean that in the sense of them having more girls who can't handle their liquor and are sloppy hot messes.
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2 years ago
Unfortunately, Subi's is too far for me to drive. Landing Strip is pushing it, but would be worth it if their tip out is like it was pre-pandemic (don't pay house, mom, or dj if I don't go to vip and no schedule or freelance fees). I hate their stage though. I'm a stage performer and like to split walk across stage and there's no way I can there, let alone do any pole. I remember the VIP area smelled BAD. Like raunchy foul and it's super dim. It's hard for both parties to examine for possible STDs or whatnot in VIP before engaging in anything. Another problem I had there was there is one toilet for females to use on the floor and the bathroom was usually locked due to multiple women in there having skiing lessons or who knows what. And the bathroom in the locker room was usually out of tp and mouthwash. It's hard to clean up after VIP with limited restroom access. They did have day shift, mid shift, and night shift and allowed the girls to work any (unlike FC where the two are strictly separate).
There's money at FC, but the tip out is ridiculous, there are too many pimp girls, and I always got weird vibes from others there - like nobody was happy or something... It's hard to explain what it felt like being there.
A friend of mine works in Kzoo at Angels and is killing it there. She told me I should try it, but staying somewhere for the weekend would be an issue.
I intended to go to Penthouse on opening weekend, but got sick and needed a biopsy that took a few days to recover from. I've only heard negative things about it. Few girls (the rumor is they have to work two day shifts to work nights) and no customers.
I don't want to work at Criket because I used to be staff (door girl) there and I know too many people who work there in my personal life still.
And I have too much pride and am not desperate enough to step foot in or near either of the two Hamilton dives (Bogart's and Henry's).
discussion comment
2 years ago
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Yes and I don't want to go into details too much. The last time I wrote about pimps and their girls, I had a brand new anonymous account in my messages threatening me and another brand new account messaging other members about me (sounding concerned and asking where I work/my work schedule). Also one of the reasons I no longer identify as a breakfast food on here and now as gum.