Here the scenario: Visited a club I hadn't been back to for a while. Saw a dancer on stage and liked the way she looked. We made eye contact and exchanged smiles. After her set she came over to join me. I'm was looking forward to getting to know her, but after a few minutes of small talk I realized I had already spent time with this girl on a previous visit (I found out later that she was wearing hair extensions the last time I saw her, so that was probably why I didn't recognize here at first). By now the dancer has settled in and is treating me like I'm one of her regulars. Don't get me wrong - she was attractive, good dancer, fun to talk to, etc. and I ended up having a good time. Still, I saw a couple other dancers I would have liked to try out, and I kinda missed the thrill of the chase and the chance to meet someone new. Variety has always been one of the attractions of SCs for me. Anyway, the point of this rambling is that the experience got me thinking about the whole dynamic of having favorites versus trusting the luck of the draw. Just wondering how others look at the pluses and minuses. (Apologize in advance if this topic has already been "done").
Been there before. I had a favorite who would pounce on me as soon as she saw me in the club, and she wouldn't let go until I left. Part of me felt flattered because she would ditch whole tables of dudes and come jump in my lap and spend the rest of the night there. I obviously made it worth her while. However, except for her 2 friends who danced there, she pretty much shot daggers at any dancer who approached me to say hi, and if she had to dance on stage or go back to the dressing room for something, she'd leave her marker on the chair so no dancer sat in it while she was away. At times I would have really liked to grab a dance from another girl, but couldn't. Eventually I just found out her work schedule and went when she wasn't there if I wanted some new dancer.
The only way I could sometimes get her to back off was to do 2-3 dances with her and then tell her I was done, and I'd go back to the bar. She probably thought I didn't bring a big bank roll that night and she'd move on. But at the same time, if she later saw me getting dances from another girl, she'd "half jokingly" accuse me of cheating on her. I'd just laugh it off, but I could tell she would get jealous seeing me with other dancers. Don't get me wrong, she was still my favorite, and she took REAL good care of me, but there are times when I wanted to test drive some new hotty, or get some dances from several different girls I knew.
If she's not a "favorite" that you see often, and you've only had maybe 2-3 visits where you spent a lot of time with her, then just get a couple dances with her and then move on. Go to the bar and grab a beer, maybe hit the bathroom, go out and have a smoke outside... then come back and by that time she will probably be hitting up some other guy. Which lets you go fishing for another girl.
Good subject, s229- For several clubs that I go to, I'm in that twilight zone whereby I'm "recognized" by several dancers but not quite into the true regular or fave category. I think that I know what you're thinking: The dancer that sat down next to you was better than, say 2/3 of the dancers out there, but you're wondering/thinking that a couple of prospects might be better than 3/4,& 4/5 of the dancers out there, resp. Kind of like "I won $500 at this blackjack table, I wonder if I'd win $1000 at the corner table".
Mostly, my club visits are drama free, the dancers at the "semi-fave" clubs know that I like to try different dancers & are mostly cool. There have been a couple of clubs over the last yr. where I've been "cockblocked", [cockblockers are good, and have been on past occasions, but there are clearly other prospects I'd like to sample]. One of the CB's is "OK" if I buy a 3fer from her & move on, but that's 1 less new dancer that I try a 3fer with. But until I do, she's on me like a tick on a bleeding dog. Such is the hazards of clubbing.
I am in a unique situation. I have a dozen favorites at my favorite club. There is a pecking order but gridget has been the queen for a long time. Our relationship goes beyond ATF. We share information. She tells me (if she knows) about what kind of dances to expect from other dancers. She knows who I have fucked. We share the dirt on the other dancers. When she is there, I prefer to spend my time with her. Sometimes 5 or 6 hours. She asks my permission to give another guy a shot and I ask for her permission before getting dances from the other girls. We are strip club buddies. Not for every one but it works for us.
I also enjoy trying dancers new to me. I am so well known that newbies really have to have an out going personality to get in the door. I met one 2 months ago that immediately made it to my favorites list. I do share my favorites list with my TUSCL brothers.
I prefer sticking with my favorites. I prefer the known vs the unknown. I like the efficiency and economy because I'm kind of particular and it takes me awhile to discover a new "diamond".
I've known some of my faves for 10+ years. I like the long term familiarity. When there's more than one there on a given night it can be a little bit of a juggling act but they appear to accept it. The jealous ones get kicked to the curb but it doesn't happen much, the screening process generally eliminates those.
Yes, I have had favorites, but except for one or two over more than 20 yrs of clubbing, they eventually lose their attraction. Sometimes they get a bit attached to you after a while, particularly if you've been generous. But just as it is a business for them, so it is for me. If I see a better product, then I want to move on...
I also prefer the hunt, and meeting new girls every visit. Trouble is that once you are a regular somewhere, there are bound to be girls who you chat up occasionally that decide you belong to them, and they proceed to plant themselves at your table for long periods of time. This in of itself is not necessarily a bad thing - but you can miss an opportunity to try out a newbie if chatty girl won't leave.I've had to take several loooooong hiatus from some of my fave clubs because of this phenomenon.
My local club can be very hit and miss, has a fairly high turnover and, like Minnow, I only visit often enough to be recognized but not often enough to be a regular. If I'm lucky enough to find a girl who's dances I like, I'm usually happy to stick with her for as long as she sticks around the club. I might be missing out elsewhere, but the odds are not high. My most recent fave has moved on to greener pastures, so I'm in the process of trying to find a replacement.
For sampling purposes I go to Vegas once or twice a year, and I usually hit three or four clubs each trip. I find the Vegas strip club experience very much like the casinos: sometimes you hit a nice jackpot with minimal outlay up front and sometimes you throw good money after bad chasing your losses, but the house always wins.
I have favorites but they know I like to play around, so they know to leave me alone after a certain point, which is often after I get a dance from them. And like laxplayer, I had a favorite who would also half-jokingly accuse me of cheating on her. But that was before she understood my M.O., and now she knows better. She'll do that routine occasionally, but I take it as a sign she's not having a good day.
Back to the OP's scenario, which IMO is more interesting than the topic title:
I feel the same disappointment when I realize that a stripper I have an interest in is one I've actually gotten dances from before. There are many girls I've had a good time with in the past who I wouldn't choose to get with again. If she were a true favorite I would remember her. She'd be a stripper I'm a little obsessed over, sensing or hoping that things might be headed somewhere thrilling. I have zero interest in just repeating a past experience, even a good one. Trying a new girl has its own set of expectations. Steve's scenario would be like sitting back to watch a DVD only to realize I've seen it before.
If I'm in a club where I might walk in often enough to be recognized, I set the expectation early and often that multiple girls are on my radar. To the question in the OP, I don't believe in luck. Anything can happen with any girl on any given day.
I'm the favorites type of guy. I currently have several dancers I'll get dances from but they all know the ATF and the 2nd in order. There are advantages - I've had them go let the ATF know I'm there. Serve as protectors from undesirable dancers either knowingly or not (I can say I'm waiting on dancer X). Favorite recent move, I was having trouble keeping a dancer gone with strong hints. As one of the group walked near I raised my eyebrow, she came over and whispered in my ear " Was that a I need rescued look?" Answer yes and she sits down next to me.
The ATF knows my attitude is make money off temp visitors as my money will always be there. She normally ignores that but recently had a situation when tipping her at stage there were more guys than she could get to upon returning to the table she said she remembered previous discussion and decided to go to the other guys because of it. The right favorite for me will always understand that I'll get dances from others and current ATF makes suggestions on who I might like.
I guess I'm lucky to have a group that gets along well. Recently they/we have moved to a new club so it will be interesting to see how that integrates with some of the dancers I've know previously but are on the same connection level as the old club group.
so my new atf is awesome. shes a total lady and will come over and ask "wanna dance". on the rare occassion, that i say, "not now" shes totally cool and will say "later then"
(parenthetically, when i brought back a little gift from a recent trip, she was so appreciative. made me think theres hope for humanity)
but i have a new approach to hangers on, or someone who wants a dance, simply put i say "i dunno. you wear me down, i cant keep up with you" or "i dunno if i can handle you". usually works.
Re "luck".... Actually, "luck of the draw" is a misnomer for trying a new dancer, at least the way I do it. I rarely agree to a dance until I've had enough teasing and flirting with the girl to know that I like her attitude and there shouldn't be any surprises in store except for the good and nasty kind. In other words, it's not like I'm picking stripper names out of a hat.
totally forgot. what has fast become my favorite response to "heywannadance?" or a girl sitting at my table...
i volunteer the following:
"right now (doesnt matter how many drinks ive had) im too sober. i can say no. you want me when im drunk. then i cant say no, and then you can take advantage of me"
if they try and make me drink, i bolt. or if they say "ill come back", i bolt. either way. i got time
Guess, it depends on what you want. If you just want good dances, then regulars won't do. You may have a few favorites, but I would not say that they are regulars. For me regulars are those who you see exclusive at a particular club.
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The only way I could sometimes get her to back off was to do 2-3 dances with her and then tell her I was done, and I'd go back to the bar. She probably thought I didn't bring a big bank roll that night and she'd move on. But at the same time, if she later saw me getting dances from another girl, she'd "half jokingly" accuse me of cheating on her. I'd just laugh it off, but I could tell she would get jealous seeing me with other dancers. Don't get me wrong, she was still my favorite, and she took REAL good care of me, but there are times when I wanted to test drive some new hotty, or get some dances from several different girls I knew.
If she's not a "favorite" that you see often, and you've only had maybe 2-3 visits where you spent a lot of time with her, then just get a couple dances with her and then move on. Go to the bar and grab a beer, maybe hit the bathroom, go out and have a smoke outside... then come back and by that time she will probably be hitting up some other guy. Which lets you go fishing for another girl.
Mostly, my club visits are drama free, the dancers at the "semi-fave" clubs know that I like to try different dancers & are mostly cool. There have been a couple of clubs over the last yr. where I've been "cockblocked", [cockblockers are good, and have been on past occasions, but there are clearly other prospects I'd like to sample]. One of the CB's is "OK" if I buy a 3fer from her & move on, but that's 1 less new dancer that I try a 3fer with. But until I do, she's on me like a tick on a bleeding dog. Such is the hazards of clubbing.
I also enjoy trying dancers new to me. I am so well known that newbies really have to have an out going personality to get in the door. I met one 2 months ago that immediately made it to my favorites list. I do share my favorites list with my TUSCL brothers.
I've known some of my faves for 10+ years. I like the long term familiarity. When there's more than one there on a given night it can be a little bit of a juggling act but they appear to accept it. The jealous ones get kicked to the curb but it doesn't happen much, the screening process generally eliminates those.
For sampling purposes I go to Vegas once or twice a year, and I usually hit three or four clubs each trip. I find the Vegas strip club experience very much like the casinos: sometimes you hit a nice jackpot with minimal outlay up front and sometimes you throw good money after bad chasing your losses, but the house always wins.
I feel the same disappointment when I realize that a stripper I have an interest in is one I've actually gotten dances from before. There are many girls I've had a good time with in the past who I wouldn't choose to get with again. If she were a true favorite I would remember her. She'd be a stripper I'm a little obsessed over, sensing or hoping that things might be headed somewhere thrilling. I have zero interest in just repeating a past experience, even a good one. Trying a new girl has its own set of expectations. Steve's scenario would be like sitting back to watch a DVD only to realize I've seen it before.
So, yeah, that's a vote for variety.
The ATF knows my attitude is make money off temp visitors as my money will always be there. She normally ignores that but recently had a situation when tipping her at stage there were more guys than she could get to upon returning to the table she said she remembered previous discussion and decided to go to the other guys because of it. The right favorite for me will always understand that I'll get dances from others and current ATF makes suggestions on who I might like.
I guess I'm lucky to have a group that gets along well. Recently they/we have moved to a new club so it will be interesting to see how that integrates with some of the dancers I've know previously but are on the same connection level as the old club group.
(parenthetically, when i brought back a little gift from a recent trip, she was so appreciative. made me think theres hope for humanity)
but i have a new approach to hangers on, or someone who wants a dance, simply put i say "i dunno. you wear me down, i cant keep up with you" or "i dunno if i can handle you". usually works.
i volunteer the following:
"right now (doesnt matter how many drinks ive had) im too sober. i can say no. you want me when im drunk. then i cant say no, and then you can take advantage of me"
if they try and make me drink, i bolt. or if they say "ill come back", i bolt. either way. i got time