In Response to Calling Dancers Fatties, etc

Ah, another city, another area where clubs aren’t enforcing Lex Wexner beauty standards as much as they used to.

They were discussing "fatties" at Flight Club. And then someone else brought up how, in his eyes, even the Cubans are fat now. He surmised by saying the Cubans are now used to American food and have thus gained weight. I can't find that particular comment anymore to screenshot it.

I'm including a screenshot just for kicks about someone calling us money hungry. It's like he hasn't seen how the economy treats women, especially dancers who may live alone and support themselves with no help. It's like he doesn't understand that every song played at a strip club is the equivalent of money we could earn or lose.

In my experience as a family law attorney there are exactly 3 people in the United States who are not money hungry and none of them post here. Everyone is money hungry at work and saying dancers are money hungry just means they are like everyone else, including those who say it. Stupid thing to say about any working person in any job. I called my client money hungry yesterday for complaining about paying $265.00 a week in child support when he is making $90,000.00.......... a month. I feel that's worse. His support order was terminated, but due to his comment nd the fact court was 50 miles from my office I charged him full travel time and charged him a full hour for my lunch. I too am money hungry. As far as terminology regarding fat/thick; it makes no difference to me. I like spinners. This, petite, preferably athletic. C cup max. If the word booty applies to their rear its a hard no. If they have man-mades. Its a hard no. I have rules regarding cars, ski areas, golf courses and restaurants, like everyone else, so why not with dancers. Hint to whiny, unidentified poster. Even if it is a total GFE, its still transactional. We mean zero to dancers. Yeah, I know everyone here is different, so I must be the only one who means nothing to every dancer; except of course when I pay.

As a long time poster here, you have shown nothing but respect for others here - customers, dancers, etc. so I completely respect everything you just said.

Your client sounds like a shill. Making 90,000 a year, that amount in child support every month should be a cakewalk. I feel bad for your client's kid(s). Good for you for charging him as much as you did.

Men do no not go to strip clubs to see naked women they do not want to see naked.

Most strip club patrons are middle aged and over, with wives, kids, careers, and mortgages. Most of their wives have too many years and too many miles to ever make money as a dancer. We go to strip clubs to spend time with sexy, young, flirty women who do not attend the backyard BBQs with our peers and neighbors (unless that one guy is your neighbor) and PTA meetings.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, body positivity is a net negative. It is not healthy, it is not attractive, it leads to undesireable appearances. Be body positive. Be shaped like a pear, an apple, a blueberry, or a string bean, but DO NOT expect me to give you money in a strip club for needing a reinforced ramp to shamble up onto the stage or to risk having my femurs snapped during a lap dance.

America's toxic food crisis is underreported and far too complex to get into here. Unhealthy diets may account for up to 50% of the cause of the obesity epidemic (I mean unhealthy like arsenic in your organic milk, glyphosate in your whole grain keto bread, and microplastics in your premium bottled water). Everyone, including dancers, still needs to take personal accountability to remaining individually healthy and fit to perform the essential function of his or her job. This applies equally to strippers.

A key rebuttal to the argument that womens' bodies are unpredictable is that we did not have strip clubs filled with unattractive dancers in the past. I remember going to clubs in the late 90s, 2000s, and a good part of 2010s and being spoiled for choice. The downward pitch in stripper desirability is a recent phenomenon of the past 10 years, give or take. Womens' bodies have not evolved all that much in a decade.

Strip clubs, like any other business, need to cater to the desires of their customers to keep their customers. You will never convince a pickup truck fan to buy a station wagon, you will never be successful trying to sell a Miata-devotee on a Cadillac Esplanade.

What skibum said. Who isn't money hungry. If you aren't money hungry, you're likely to end up hungry.

To be fair to my client he is paying 100% of his kids college and his ex is the single worst person I have met in my life.

I like to think and speak in positives rather than negatives. If I'm attracted to a particular dancer, I'll think to myself "she's beautiful". But if someone isn't quite my cup of tea, I don't think negative thoughts about her or her physical appearance. To someone else, she might be beautiful from a physical standpoint also, or she might have an awesome personality that just makes her beautiful in a different way. I might find a certain behavior unattractive, but I don't think of a person as being unattractive just because of their physical characteristics...

"We mean zero to dancers."

I've had more than one instance over the years where a dancer developed actual feelings towards me, but whether everyone chooses to believe that, or no one chooses to believe that, it makes no difference either way. All of the things that have happened to me--the good and the bad--they are what they are. One of those experiences actually haunts me a bit to this day, to the point where I'd be really grateful if someone could somehow convince me that I was just mistaken about what happened. Sadly, no one has ever heard the story and offered up an alternative explanation, probably because there isn't a plausible one available...

In spite of a few past experiences, I don't consider it plausible that something like that will ever happen to me again, nor am I looking for it to ever happen again. If I were specifically looking for a long-term relationship, I wouldn't be attempting to find that in a club, nor would I ever suggest to any other guy that they try to find it in a club either. For me, those very few unique and unexpected experiences are just a reminder that no matter how hard I try to predict the future, life is probably not done throwing some more shit my way that I never, ever anticipated...lol

"Who isn't money hungry."

The only thing that I could ever do with larger amounts of money would be to donate larger amounts to various causes that I care about. Outside of charitable giving, it would be useless for me to have an extremely high net worth. You could give me $500,000,000 tomorrow and I wouldn't change a thing about my life, at least not anything that money could buy. I'd still wear the same clothes, drive the same car, and make the same stupid puns that I do now. :) I just wouldn't fit in with any kind of "high class" lifestyle. I don't want to dress up and go to a fancy restaurant. I want to eat tacos from a food truck and play Pictionary with friends!

I mean, I appreciate money for the ability to buy essential things like housing, food, and healthcare, but I really only care about being happy... 😀

^ well said sir. Everyone's experience is different and having spoken about love, relationships and sex with literally untold thousand's of times I assume that few of us here could even agree on what love is, what like is, what real is and what isn't real. I know I had an atf from 2007 - the pandemic. I also know that it was, is and never will be anything like what I have with my wife over the past 36 years plus.

@skibum609 👍 One thing I never do is try to figure out what I might have had with that one dancer in particular, had things unfolded a bit differently. I don't like to go there mentally, so I just don't. She was a spinner, absolutely adorable, and a great personality to match. It's a bit tough for me to imagine that she and I could have made it for the long haul, just because of the age gap alone, so I certainly don't compare that situation with a marriage lasting nearly four decades. What was unique about it was just the level of feelings she actually developed for me in a short time. That part was totally legit...but turning that into something lasting would have been a whole different ballgame...

^short term and long term are very different things. I ask this question of all my clients: are there actual tangible acts and not words that you can point to that indicate true affection? If you choose not to answer I get it totally, but feel free to do it here or dm.

We may be getting worked up over nothing because in a few years GLP1s will be an over the counter drug and everyone will be skinny.

"are there actual tangible acts and not words that you can point to that indicate true affection?"

@skibum609 Yes, there was a very specific thing that never would have happened without her having some really strong feelings about me. But my eyes are getting a bit watery now thinking about it, so I'm just going to blame it on allergies and go get some food... :)

I visited a favorite regular one time and she was upset because another customer called her fat. She had gained a little weight but after having her as a regular for several years I had become a little attached to her and was not going to dump her for a younger hotter stripper. She left a year later because old regulars visiting her was not enough money to make a living at stripping.

RUDE

One thing about GLP1 they don't advertise is that once you stop you get even fatter. Also, it makes you burp and your burps will smell worse than the worst dump ever.

I’m on the fence about GLP-1s. Luckily I don’t need them. The thing that surprises me most about GLP-1s is how fast they work! My buddies wife, who was never fat but probably carried about 20 extra lbs, is all the sudden downright skinny. I think she’s lost at least 30 pounds in maybe 2 months? Funny part, we’ve been out to eat with them many times before GLP-1 and she would eat and drink beer like a dude. Way more than me even and I’m no slouch. It was remarkable. Post GLP-1 we went out to eat and she and my buddy ordered no appetizers and no beer. She’s eating much less. Good for her husband/my friend as well because he could stand to lose about 40lbs. He’s got bad knees and he’s lazy, so eating less is essential for him.

That is a good point about GLP-1s likely to affect trends. I personally have wondered if/when food prices increase enough and GLPs prices decrease enough that eventually it becomes the norm.

There is a lot of bad agricultural practices right now, and some of it involves using bad substances to increase yield. If those get taken away, the food quality will probably be higher but the overall supppy will be lower. And of course current events with wars and agricultural crop failures due to weather doesn’t help.

But that’s a shame that there’s some grouches online. Hopefully the Detroit customers who are actually in the clubs are having fun and spending.

GLP1 - their prices are still high enough that a lot of people that need them can’t afford them. I’m talking lower income people. I see many young obese people and think, “damn this drug would change your life,” but I’m guessing they don’t have access to it due to affordability or lack of/limited health care.

On the other hand I know several - actually too many women who were beautiful to begin with although they had an extra 20+ pounds who now look like drug addicts because they are so thin. Their looks are gone too because their faces are so thin.

In most cases I find a woman who is 20 pounds over her ideal weight more attractive than a GLP1 user that’s 10+ pounds under her ideal weight.

My timeline is like maybe in 5-10 years? If I’m correct, then people would end up taking GLPs out of financial necessity more than anything.

And maybe at that point rich people will find out how to stay one step ahead. They will have some kind of GLP that will only reduce appetite to a certain controlled amount and where body fat goes to will be carefully controlled to desirable areas. (To the benefit of women like Kelly Osbourne)

And the poors will just merely be skinny.

GLP-1s are a perfect example of Big Pharma creating chronic customers who will never be " cured" and using one pharmaceutical to fix problems caused by another (the original problem being UPFs and artificial additives to foods). If you want be healthy there three very difficult rules to follow:

1. Eat clean
2. Lift heavy
3. Fast regularly

A buddy and I started losing weight in 12/2024. He is down 60 pounds and looks like a scarecrow. He gets sick all the time because he hardly eats. Looking at him has made me incredibly anti glp. I have lost 40 pounds. I look like his grandson now. He lost weight so fast he looks like a decrepit old man. I look like someone in their 50s who likes the gym, even though I am neither. I do lift heavy, but not even close to 40 years ago, but it still works. Sunday we had to take golf carts so my buddy rode around and while I paid my half of the cart I picked up my clubs and carried for 18 holes. Played fucking great with my new putter. Got shit for 10 holes because I bought a ladies putter. Seriously a ladies putter. 26 putts in 18 holes and I missed a few easy ones, and as he counted out my $610.00 ( front, back, overall, overall score and one ding) he said: "where'd you buy the putter"?

@skibum609 - congrats on losing 40 lbs the right way. Thankfully I’ve never had to lose that amount of weight, but as I get older I definitely appreciate the importance of a healthy diet, exercise, limiting alcohol (I now go for quality over quantity), and my daughters got me into yoga on a family trip to Baha Mar. Full disclosure, I participated in the beach yoga class as kind of a joke because the instructor was a fucking smoke show, but I found that I really liked how it made me feel. It turns out yoga is an excellent activity for us old dudes to build core strength, flexibility, and balance.

I'm not sure what direction the OP was trying to go. Health and fitness is paramount, especially for dancers who rely on their body to make sales. PL should do better as well. Being overweight doesnt do them any favors either.

There's more to health than skinny vs fat and everyone is rightfully bashing GLP-1 as it's fairly easy to be in good shape without em. Go to the gym or at least be active more than not active. Eat real food. Not packaged BS. Don't eat crazy portions. Fasting once in a while is healthy for the body. I typically fast for 12 hours everyday and maybe 16 hours 2 or 3 times a week.

My personal preference is spinners to athletic. I dont mind curve, but its easy to tell fit curvy vs fat curvy. Hell, even a little big of chub on someone who doesn't work out is less attractive than being thick and fit.

I am fat

"I called my client money hungry yesterday for complaining about paying $265.00 a week in child support when he is making $90,000.00.......... a month."

Is that correct - $90,000 a MONTH! Paying $265 a week in child support is too little.

In defense of the guy earning $90K/month: We don't know what kind of absolute cunt the wife is, what kind of atrocious entitled brats she is raising, what she took of marital property in the divorce, how much her individual income is, what he is paying in spousal support, or how much her new beau makes, The male in the relationship is not automatically the villain.

I would never call a dancer, or any woman, “fat” to her face. If a woman makes comments to me about her weight, I will deny that she looks overweight, whether that’s true or not. Given the choice, if I’m paying for female companionship, I’d prefer somebody who wasn’t fat. You could look at my reviews and comments and see where I have described dancers as “fat”. I feel that is part of our collective, information-sharing function. I am aware that women have a variety of body types, and can distinguish that from obesity

I personally don't believe many have any room to talk about women's bodies considering how few customers shower before going to the club trying to score.

I especially don't believe many are qualified to even comment on the weight of other people in general unless medically educated.

It's okay to have a diverse lineup of dancers at a club. There is someone for every flavor. Some of you want toothpicks and some of you want BBWs. If you see a BBW dancing and you don't like it, somebody else does and that's why she's there.

There's no need to go on review sites bitching and whining calling the girl's names when, first you're not a medical doctor who's able to correctly diagnose somebody's perceived weight gain, and second, she was hired and she's still working there for a reason.

Complain to the club managers and owners about it.

Do something instead of bitching and whining online.

@BubbleYum: "I personally don't believe many have any room to talk about women's bodies "

Well, I certainly don't, even when they are bigger than me (which is really saying something). But like dancers, I have preferences, and I won't apologize for having them.

That's totally fine. We all have our own preferences. There's no apology expected. 🙂

"considering how few customers shower before going to the club trying to score."

@BubbleYum

Yikes. Out of curiosity, what percentage of customers would you guess don't get appropriately cleaned up???

Even as a guy who just goes for dances, I can't imagine going to a club and not having on clean clothes, being freshly showered, and having just brushed my teeth.

Hasn't it come out that Lex Wexnar's actual beauty standard is rent boy?

It does seem to be a part of human psychology, that comparing actual experiences to an imaginary ideal will likely ruin what could have been a good time. It will rarely be the case that a viable business can cater to your and only your preferences. Even if you really are as spot on normie as you believe yourself to be.
Men appreciate polite versus contemptuous rejection from women. Better to follow the polite rather than the nasty example.

So which fat stripper in Detroit is BubnleYum?