I am one of the people where I just simply wait for dancers to ask me for a dance, rather then going up to the dancers themselves, because whenever you ask, you look really desperate and stupid.
Also, do you just ever get bored going to clubs too? I am starting to feel that way a bit myself.
Re: "because whenever you ask, you look really desperate and stupid."
In fact, for me it's the reverse. I feel sorry for PLs who who sit and wait, while watching their desired girls go with other guys. The girls with whom I initiate contact are usually grateful that I broke the ice. They weren't trying to ignore me - They were wondering if they should approach, but thought maybe I was disinterested, waiting for someone, or who knows? I'm just glad I got off my stool to reach out.
Rod84@ Do you think it is better to go after the dancers even if they are talking to someone?
If you make eye contact and smile at them, is that desperate?
I wouldn't overthink it. If you want to dry hump that body over there for 10 minutes, just go ask, don't waste your time waiting around. Trade your money for it. For me I'll never see these humans again. If it's not fun anymore don't worry about it, do something else and maybe come back later.
Some dancers (especially the newer ones) are so afraid to approach a customer that they want to work with a friend on the floor. If you either prefer that type or you are in a club that has a lot of them, then you’re going to miss out on a lot of dances by expecting them to be trained on sales.
Or if you show up during a “low momentum” time like late afternoon/early evening, where most of the customers coming in are just for a specific dancer and the furniture, then they may assume you are one of them and leave you alone.
If you’re coming to the club on a Saturday at midnight and the dancers have stayed busy, then I can understand why it might be a better idea to wait for an ask.
At the end of the day, it's like going to the old time Italian street market. Yeah I'll try some this over here, and yeah give me some of this right here. Alright that was good, I'm taking a whole pie home.
In many foreign countries, you need to approach the girls, more than they approach you. Do not approach a girl when she is with another guy.
I definitely just go up to them to tip them on stage and ask to have some fun when they’re done. Nothing wrong with it if you dress nicely, don’t smell, and aren’t a psychopath.
It is nice when a girl you find hot comes to you and it works out. Doesn’t get much easier than that.
@basedtexasnationalist - Never underestimate the availability of a girl, just because she's sitting with another PL. I've been surprised the number of times I indicated interest in a girl who was sitting with another guy. She'll come over a few minutes later, saying something like she was just killing time because the guy's a regular who likes to shoot the breeze, buys a drink but never gets dances, and stuff like that.
Of course, being a respectful PL is key. I will usually work it so I walk by on my way to the restroom or to tip another dancer on stage. Simply give her a wink or a little touch followed by a small wave. No need to stop, gawk, or engage on conversation. She will get the message that you're a warm lead and she can jump ship.
A man approaching a woman is simping? What ever happened to men with confidence? we don't need much in a strip club. They will not often turn us down
K@ I am just overthinking things I guess, who knows
There’s nights you’re going to be hunted and there’s nights you’re going to have to do the hunting.
ComeGetPaid@ Facts 💯💯💯
Simping is paying too much for something, or doing too much. Just asking for a dance or an extra alone isnt simping
Fuck the term “simp” or “simping”. There is nothing wrong with enjoying hot women! Enjoy life while you can.
@rickthehick: I have this sense of avoiding robs like the plague loo
@Ilovewhitestrippers: I see no lies bro
Confusius say “Pimping ain’t easy. But simping is.”
@ww Agreed
Muddy’s correct.
This whole discussion depends on the club. If you are sitting off the stage and go up to tip a dancer, that is a sign you are interested. She should ask your name and introduce herself. Then you ask her to stop over when she is done. Many clubs the girls will circulate after a stage set and see who they think is interested. Their job is to circulate. Club in more touristy areas (like Las Vegas) will have many women walking around. Remember to not dress as a slob, brush your teeth, comb your hair, maybe shave a second time that day before hitting the club. Please and Thank you go a long way too.
Totally depends on the club and the vibe. Sometimes, you've got to ask I would say though make sure they see you coming.
But also literally treat it like date night. You've gotta be put together not suit or anything but something decent.
@sctripper: I am discussing about ones in So Cal to be exact
Nothing is ever pointless if it serves a purpose. But what you're talking about in the op isn't simping. If you were sitting watching the girl you've already spoken with going with guy after guy who isn't you then tells you she's leaving, that's simping. If you tip her on her way out for doing nothing but talking to you for about a minute, that's simping. If you did that after answering a cattle call text but then you still got ignored by your CF, that's simping.
You just checking out the show aimlessly waiting on the possibility a dancer might talk to you? Not simping but doesn't sound fun.
Yeah I think my issue was is that I wasn’t being a bit more aggressive in my approach @wallanon.
Many of my thoughts already covered, tipping at the stage, making eye contact and smiling, etc. But also, when I traveled and was a transient in a regulars club, it would have been a waste of my time to sit and wait for a girl to come by. One instance in particular was accidentally finding myself in Lubbock TX for an overnight and looking for distraction. I found a club and was amazed at the lack of the girls engaging with customers. Fed up, I saw a cute blond sitting by herself walked over and started to chat with her. Turned around a sorry night into a good one. Funny thing, she ended up being a transient too, a featured dancer brought in from Houston for the night.
@wallanon my friend your post doesnt make sense.. at least not in response to OP..
You mention a CF.. OP never mentioned a CF. Im confused on the cattle call text part.
And this part “ If you were sitting watching the girl you've already spoken with going with guy after guy who isn't you then tells you she's leaving, that's simping.” Doesnt make sense either. OP said he wants dancers to ask him for dances. In this scenario it sounds like youre saying he kept watching a girl after refusing her for dances? I dont think thats simping. It might be more of the weird or pointless category but not simping
@JackKash: And that’s the problem with a lot of many clubs. I remember 5-10 years ago, I would love going to clubs in COI area in Cali, but my passion died at this point.
@JackKash: I have only one girl I like at my ATF club and I like Tropical Lei in Upland, California so far. I may focus on let’s say going to Internet cafes or regular clubs at this point. There is only one club I like in Tx. It’s not like I am lazy, it’s just that I don’t want to deal with bullshit anymore at these clubs.
My approach is 100% the opposite. I go up to the hottest girls and initiate without any fear or hesitation. I do stand around a lot if I am not impressed enough with a girl on that shift, but I find that the least attractive, overweight girls will annoyingly come up to me to offer themselves up.
@BASP: I like to go up to dancers that offer both looks and/or mileage!
If a girl I’m interested in is tied down by a customer for too long without going anywhere I have no problem with cruising by and saying “I see that you’re busy, so I will try to catch up next time.”
Almost without exception that seems to get them free.
@uniquename a better approach is sending over a different dancer or server, bouncer, to go to the dancer and let her know she has someone waiting for her.
But- thats only if youre going to get dances for sure. Some of the dancers are just sitting with a guy to pass the time or the guys buying drinks but not dances. So they may quickly leave that guy to come to you.
Doing it that way avoids potential drama with a jealous or possessive customer. Which as you probably know, a lot of these customers and clients can have a jealousy problem
@uniquename: This is probably the best set of advice I have heard in my life!
The girls are always watching you. If you’re interested in a girl who’s tied up with another customer, you don’t need to say anything (out of respect to the other PL). All you have to do is make eye contact - and maybe a smile or subtle nod as you walk past. She will come over to you as soon as she has a chance. If she’s just hanging out with a regular, or if she feels like the current opportunity isn’t going to convert to a decent pay day, she’ll get up and come over to you immediately.
I can't tell if the guys who insist girls come to them are feeling entitled, or are just too chicken shit to approach a girl in her underwear.
@georgmicrodong it is sometimes an ego thing. Some guys have argued since theyre paying, the girls should be approaching.
I think its not an issue to approach, unless shes sitting with a customer. Its seen as rude, plus makes her look bad if she openly leaves a customer for another. Plus if the guys ghetto or deprived, hes gonna want to start a fight over it.
@rickthehick @georgmicrodong Tbh I think I need to have more huevos to approach dancers instead of just sitting and waiting
@basedtexasnationalist me and my friend GMD both have very small cocks, but that doesnt mean we have small balls too
Lmaoooooo @rickthehick
@basedtexasnationalist, baby steps, grasshopper, baby steps. If you're uneasy about approaching dancers, work up to it. You see a dancer on stage you really like (or even just sorta like but might be comfortable with), go up there, tip her a couple bucks, say hi, and then get back to your table. Wash, rinse, repeat with that one (or more), and it'll start to feel natural and normal to approach girls in their underwear.
Simps at clubs need to find a hobby
They are ruining the expectations of dancers for the true PL’s like us
I’m was at a club recently and a guy was caressing a dancers legs giving her drinks and feeding her lollipops while she was 100% looking at her phone the entire time. It went on for over a half hour (probably more) and no dances. It was odd
@sfrsox: No more simping, especially with the shitty attitudes and all, too!
"I’m was at a club recently and a guy was caressing a dancers legs giving her drinks and feeding her lollipops while she was 100% looking at her phone the entire time."
You can't always go by what you see. One of the most awkward times I've had at a club was when my ATF (yeah, the one from the other thread) got drunk and pissed off and started an argument with me that went on for probably a half hour. Eventually the water works started, and when I glanced around and there were the eyeballs looking. Later on the manager walked up when I was going to the bar and asked me if things were ok.
The day after she ugly cried in the corner she was at my place digging her fingernails in my back. Maybe some guys would say letting a stripper bitch at me on the floor is simping, but I'll trade that for pumping a couple loads into her during crazy make up sex.
"It went on for over a half hour (probably more) and no dances. It was odd"
Plenty of dancers would be just fine getting paid to sit there getting a leg message while being fed lollipops lol.
@wallnon: One of the numerous reasons why I lost faith in clubs lok
lol *
"Also, do you just ever get bored going to clubs too?"
That happens to me when I have a good relationship with a girlfriend.