How to handle a ROB
I know I know, "why be afraid of a girl in her underwear" and all that. But hypothetically what would you do if there is disagreement on the amount to be paid, and she's hypothetically causing a scene claiming you LDK'd and owe her more money, and she's hypothetically called over the manager and bouncer...
Hypothetically of course.
It's too bad too cuz she could have made a lot more money off of me in the future. Question now is do I want to ever go back and give more of my money to this establishment, or is that just my wounded pride talking...
Hypothetically of course.
It's too bad too cuz she could have made a lot more money off of me in the future. Question now is do I want to ever go back and give more of my money to this establishment, or is that just my wounded pride talking...
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I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Q: hypothetically what would you do if there is disagreement on the amount to be paid, and she's hypothetically causing a scene claiming you LDK'd and owe her more money, and she's hypothetically called over the manager and bouncer...?
A: Not Hypothetically at all High End Gentlemen Club.
In an occasion the following situation happened to me with a new, to me, dancer, and this is how it unfolded.
After 3 dances I asked her to stop, because she was not performing to my standards, and I handed her the money for the 3 dances and she said we did 5, and I said no we did 3.
She insisted we did 5, I said no we did 3.
She then threatened to call the bouncer and I said go ahead, the bouncer came and took her side. I explained to him the situation and told them, it is not the money, it is the principle.
He asked that we all go to the lobby and once there he said to pay her for the 2 extra dances or I won’t be allowed to go back inside the club.
I immediately asked the guy at the cash register/entry to call the manager.
The manager came and he walked a couple of feet away from them so we could talk.
I explained to him the situation and said loud enough for the bouncer and the dancer to hear “Are we going to have to call the “Boys in Blue” to solve this situation?”
The bouncer immediately walked away and the dancer walked away after a second or two.
The manager said that it was OK for me to go back inside, “just don’t talk to them please.”
I said OK went inside and acted like nothing happened.
Mentioning the Boys in Blue helps oftentimes, because they most likely have warrants and would not want to risk being arrested.
That was not the last time I visited the club, And didn’t have any other issues.
You have to look the part of a business man that is not afraid to call the Boys in Blue, because you know they will be in your side, a mature respectable gentleman business man.
Let’s be careful out there.
:D
She's a stripper dude, not your local gas station. She's not trying to build a customer loyalty program by giving discounts today. For too many reasons to easily list, strip club patrons are notoriously unreliable. Even the girls who actively work to build a stable of regulars make sure to get paid each time a regular visits.
I've always envied premature ejaculators for their ability to enjoy clubs on the cheap, lol. But if you got jizz on her, you should have worked out something extra for her trouble and good work.
I suspect that you were both being unreasonable, with you trying to pay her little more than the normal dance rates and her looking for a big chunk. The answer was likely something in the middle, which you probably could have worked out with her.
Was there extra effort involved, or did you LDK simply from her grinding on her?
How much extra did she request as tip?
While I'm not a fan of girls demanding tips, especially if not disclosed beforehand, I do proactively tip when the experience was successful and enjoyable.
If she expected $20 or so extra, then I would have happily indulged her. If $100, though, a good 'ole "you're fucking nuts, girl" would have been appropriate.
Call LE, claiming she got you off, and didn't compensate her for her {potentially illegal} act?
Could be nothing more than a con job they pull in people who they think they can intimidate into compliance.
It becomes a cost/benefit analysis of how much you care about returning to that club.
Also seems like a LDK would deserve a bonus over the cost of the dances you thought you did, so you basically came out ok financially
Although the best dancers just ignore it and keep dancing on you anyway!
What was this disagreement you speak of? Did you even have an agreement, other than the club's price of the LDs or VIP room? Or, did you really strike a separate agreement on how much money she'd get (but without an LDK provision), and then she tried to gouge you for more after you jizzed in your pants? And how much "more money" are we talking about? And how egregious was the jizz shot - like totally contained in your whitey-tighties, or jet streams of hot frothy cum shooting from the gaping leg of your commando shorts and dripping down her legs to her stripper heels? If the former, how would she have known, unless you twisted your face into cum rigor motus while shouting the name of your favorite deity?
But if you're neither clever enough to keep your drippings away from dancer scrutiny or smart enough to talk to the dancer about your particular tastes ahead of time, then what you do is pay the dancer more.
If she steals money from your pocket, which has happened to me, I would report them to the management even if it does no good.
Whatever the case is always bust her in a review of the club. Names are always welcomed in these cases.
Longer term, I don’t patronize dancers that try to rip me off.
The rub (haha) is this ldk business. That’s potentially getting bodily fluids on her, and while this is a known risk of the job, it’s also a bit of an upgrade for you. If you didn’t discuss this possibility in advance, strictly speaking you are at fault. Of course if she tries to take advantage of that and wants an unreasonable amount, then you can always say no.
If the clubs backs up an unreasonable ask from and unreasonable dancer, then you’ll want to avoid that club in the future whether you paid it or not.
A baby stripper asked for $200 more or threatened to call the manager. I said, "Go ahead," and that I wouldn't pay. The manager sided with me because I always bring in good money and never cause any trouble.
But as a married man, the worst case scenario was in my head for a week.
If that's the worst, I'd love to see the best!
Dancers don’t all volunteer to be popped on. It’s so annoying to get a dancer is a ROB because you did something other than receive a lap dance without talking and then whining about them not liking it.
I feel like it's a play - stripper at an extras club couldn't make a sale on real extras so will push for an LDK and then claim that you charge for that. But maybe that's on me for my lack of communication and not receiving express written consent.
You could yave said how much to make me cum in my pants. You just didnt want to pay. Shes not a rob. Yiu are
Lol...it doesn't matter if it is, but it only makes it worse when you put these disclaimers in your super detailed conjecture.
Any experienced dancer knows how to cause an LDK as well as how to avoid ldks. Those dancers will grind on your thigh instead of on the stick. These scenarios where the dancer is extremely surprised from the ldk are possibly noob dancers, or guys who cum unusually quick or the guy was jerking off during the dance.
happened only once to me...and it was not an issue.
There have been dozens of threads on here where guys assert that a dancer should assume a guy will unload in his pants if a dancer provides a lot of contact. Two problems with that...
1. This assertion is almost always made as part of a thread where a guy got in trouble with a dancer for producing a surprise wet spot. This points pretty clearly to the reality that it's never assumed, probably because...
2. In every thread about LDK, there's a bunch of guys who state that this never happens to them, or they wish they could LDK (but can't), or they don't want to LDK. Meaning, the majority of guys getting the same high-contact dance aren't nutting on themselves.
I don't care if a guy wants to LDK. If it's fun for you and the dancer is on board, then hakuna matata.
But if you don't want these sorts of ugly encounters, then the solution remains either talking to the dancer about what you want or figuring out how to contain your wet spot.
The dancer isn't a ROB. You did this to yourself.