OTC Hint or Not?

Ask....you never know what a stripper is thinking at any given time!!!

If it’s getting that hot… it’s definitely possible.

While her comment about her having sex like she dances was not an OTC hint, the phone number exchange moved a step closer to that.

Now you just need to seal the deal, working the situation just you would with any other interpersonal situation. Just read her, and the situation will progress in a natural manner.

I'd agree, the comment about dancing like she has sex isn't any sort of hint. Saying she's open to going to dinner and giving you her number are indications she's open to seeing you OTC, or at the very least talking about it without taking offense.

Deciding when to ask is up to you. It probably depends on your clubs and the girl. Around here, ITC extras are the norm and OTC is very common. So simply asking is almost a no-brainer. In an area where ITC is very rare and OTC isn't as common, you might do better to develop a bit of a relationship ITC first. Since you've already talked about going to dinner, you need to be a little careful. Again, around here "going to dinner" means fucking OTC so I'm able to be vague. But there is some possibility she actually means going to dinner, at least for the first time you see each other. You need to get your expectations of the encounter in line, then decide how flexible you are and determine if you need to be clear with her. Don't get yourself into a situation where expect sex and she expects dinner, particularly if you won't be okay with just dinner.

Depends on the dancer and the interaction. Sometimes I ask about OTC pretty quickly. Sometimes I do a few VIPs so that the dancer gets more comfortable with me, then I ask about OTC.

What’s her back story? Does she have a SO or single and ready to mingle? Is she in her 20’s with no kids and looking for new experiences (dtf) or is she a single mother with child care issues and a loser ex? Not surprisingly, there are several factors determining the dynamics at play from which only you can navigate and make on the spot decisions to see if there is a mutually beneficial arrangement. I found that there is no such thing as free sex, because even a fwb hook up requires a lot of emotional/mental bandwidth to support it. There is no free lunch, which is why some people prefer to pay, sometimes overpay.

===> "Is it better to ask directly about OTC or spend loads of cash in ITC and play the long game?"

When she's dropping hints, like she seems to be, it's always good to strike while the iron is hot. My follow-up might have been, "Just dinner, or would you be interested in a side stop someplace private after? And if so, what would you need for that?"

If she says no, then who cares? Either way you know for sure.

Spending "loads" of cash ITC is never the answer. I spend enough that girls know that I have cash to spend, but not enough to make anyone fat and happy. I'm happy to be a girl's payday, but not ITC.

I don't even qualify to be a rick sidekick when it comes to OTC. But, I think generally, if you have to be the one to bring it up, you'll get a no, a really high $ figure, or possibly an offended reaction.

When you have to engage in some sort of courting behavior with a sex worker to get FS, time to consider the alternative of escorts. Unless you actually enjoy being potentially annoying cause you're rick level ninja.

ilbbaicnl said "But, I think generally, if you have to be the one to bring it up, you'll get a no, a really high $ figure, or possibly an offended reaction."

I'll caveat this by saying it always depends on the dancer, but I've brought up OTC with really hot dancers on many occasions (including in no-extras clubs where I didn't get extras) and I've received enough 'yes' responses along with not "really high $" prices to make it worthwhile to keep asking for OTC from fun, hot dancers. I'm not saying that I'm at 100%, but I'm also not needing to take a master class in sales negotiations to get OTC. And I've had exactly one dancer react poorly to being asked for OTC.

"When you have to engage in some sort of courting behavior with a sex worker to get FS, time to consider the alternative of escorts."

It's not courting behavior; it's usually just making an offer. Sometimes sooner; sometimes later. Sometimes they say 'yes.' Sometimes they say 'no.' Sometimes they say 'no' but then a few weeks or months later they will approach me with a 'yes.' Also, there have been a bunch of threads on here where numerous people have laid out why there's a preference of OTC with a dancer versus escorts. But, for now I'll direct you to Subraman's thread on the matter (that I agree with):

https://tuscl.net/article/44731

Most dancers I've dealt with are clear eyed about OTC and what it's all about. Also, I haven't really had an issue with dancers not knowing how to say 'no' when the answer was 'no.'

If you don't want to be direct say something like "this would be more fun on a bed" or "I wish I could wear less clothes".

Yes, just ask her right than and there. In her mind she already know if she'd fuck you or not and how much it would take. She's looking to get as much as possible and you're looking to pay as little as possible.

What rick said. No need to be clever or overly obscure. She's highly likely to know what you mean when you say something like "someplace private." If she *does* ask what you mean, then just "sex", or "head" or "naked massage" or whatever your OTC adventure of choice is.

As C.M.I said, you're not trying to get a girlfriend, you're trying to get your dick wet. Usually doesn't pay to be overly obtuse.

Strippers say all types of sexual shit to extract more money from your wallet.

Strippers agree to OTC when their rent is due.

With a holiday weekend coming, and clubs possibly being scarce of custies, and rent coming due next week, now is the time to ask.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc…

Whatever you do, be Tom Brady and not Fred Armisen.

"She says she is open to me taking her to dinner...."

At dinner ask her if she has seen any good movies. She'll then ask you and then you mention some of your favorite porn movies (which you make up). Finally, you say the funniest movie you saw was about a gal who was on a dinner`date, just like she is, and when the waiter brought the dessert her date unzipped his fly and provided the topping. That will get the message through.

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It Can Go Either Way, If You Score Her Phone#, Just Ask Her OTC When You Talk. In My View, If A Girl Follows Through With Her Number & You Talk, Then 9 Out Of 10 She Will B Up For It. The Dancers Know U Want Sex, So I Can't Imagine A Girl Would Give Her # If Not Ready For The Fun ♥️ ✔️

Here I South Florida it’s unusual for a dancer to have an OTC date that doesn’t include sexually explicit entertainment, she might want to be treated like a GF but they’ll be expecting to do whatever you want with them. It’s not the same all over the country but in this area that’s what is the norm.