Ups/Downs For Seeing The Same Dancer?
Brahma2k
Excellence Always Costs Money (Tampa)
Worst case: You are forever the TL, nothing changes that. You may even come across as a RIL (the worst of the TL as I read the glossary), she may even go ROB on you because she knows she’s got you?
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Best case: she has a returning customer, wants that certain repeat business, will lower the SS an bit and deliver extras?
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The RIL tag applies more to guys who continuously see the same dancer over and over again, even when the dancer isn’t offering anything in return and even if said PL is not seeking extras. Contrary to popular belief, these types of dancers tend to secretly look down on and pity guys like this and have will immediately have a proclivity to exploit them both emotionally and monetarily - hence the “RIL” tag.
Also, how she perceives probably has a lot more to do with how you behave with her than how often you see her, though you're at absolutely no risk of triggering some frequency flag if you're only going once a month. Plenty of guys go to clubs one or more times per week.
She is who she is, her mileage is her mileage and her hustle is her hustle. Beyond that don't overthink it. To the extent that any of that changes, it won't be because of your monthly visit, but more likely due to her own evolution over time. If her looks and great chat are worth enduring high SS and low mileage, then keep seeing her. If not, then find someone else.
I don't do otc but strippers are more friendly and affectionate after they become my regulars. I always try to treat others fairly and when regulars realize that they warm up to me. Strippers have so many guys trying to take advantage of them, so anyone who doesn't do that looks good by comparison. I also visit new girls sometimes for a little variety. Also, when visiting a new girl, I sometimes meet someone who I want to turn into a regular.
Loyalty should follow good service, it doesn't usually create it. If you keep going to the same girl you expect the same service each time, not improvement.
Bump it up to 2/3 times a month, and things change a bit. Will it completely change a girls sales technique and behavior? No, it won't. Will it often make slight adjustments in your favor, Yes it does. I wouldn't expect a girl who does no extras to start doing it. There are certainly quite a few girls who are selective about doing that sort of thing, and will do them with regulars they like but not with others. But it's not common enough where I'd "expect" it to happen. This is area specific, that sort of thing may be more common in areas where extras aren't as openly available. It does absolutely turn ITC girls into OTC girls, many girls won't see random one-time customers OTC but will be willing to meet up with a guy they've seen a dozen times ITC and hasn't displayed any concerning behavior. That last part is key, if you're super clingy, needy, demanding, have hygiene issues, anything that might give her concern, seeing her regularly will just turn a regular no into a hell motherfucking no. Occasionally, if you're easy money a dancer might take it for granted and slack a bit. But I've never seen a girl who didn't display ROB tenancies suddenly start doing it when I became a regular customer.
That said, I do agree with Rick in principle, to a large extent observed changes in her behavior and level of service are due to her natural progression in the industry more than variances in service as a result of regular patronage. Especially at the frequency of once a month and relatively modest spending on those visits. With greater frequency and spending, the equation changes somewhat but a leopard does not change its spots nor become a housecat.
Obviously experiences will vary and I’m looking to hear the experiences. I mentioned a month but it would be more like every 2 or at most 3 weeks..which may not be enough to even register on her radar as rickdugan pointed out.
But I'll take a loose aim at what might be the topic / question and note that if I get any grief, SS, or bad vibes from a dancer, then I don't get more dances. I certainly don't become a regular.
But like others said, you see her regularly because she's your favorite. If you're trying to turn her into your favorite by seeing her regularly, you'll be disappointed. She won't change that much. I've made that mistake before.
Both have given either discounted service, like discounting the room cost from her usual fee, or better mileage after we got comfortable.
Of course, to get to this point, you have to have a good personality and given me some very good VIPs.
I have found that it's best to have several girls on rotation, rather than sticking with one.
I'm on tap for another SC visit this weekend and going to look toward trying to build a rotation.
“Time, emotion and money”: point me to any tuscl links that speak best of it. I’m looking to learn!. The one I think I’m most short on is emotion. This is a business transaction, no?
Stripper Shit is par for the course, dealing with it is just part of the deal. A little extra stripper shit generally isn't reason to stop seeing a stripper. And it is something that most strippers spare their regulars from, once the relationship is established it's not really worthwhile for them to keep it up. But, excessive entitlement and high hustle are entirely different. Entitlement tends to only increase with regular patronage of a stripper. And a girl who is a hustler, borderline ROB or full-on ROB will rarely change. It is however not uncommon for ROB's to run longer cons on regulars, with bigger dollar figures at stake.
You can see how the best course of action is basically polar opposites, depending on what you're dealing with. If you're asking if a little stripper shit is likely to decease somewhat if you continue seeing her. My answer is yeah, probably. If you're asking if a entitled ROB is gonna stop acting that way if you keep spending on her, then my answer is no, it's very unlikely. It's much more likely it'll get worse or she'll set you up for a bigger score. Like gamanu said, maybe just stick with spelling shit out. The acronyms and various interpretations of them can lead to confusion and bad advice.
I probably made the mistake of reading some excerpts from The Diary Of A Lapdancer. Hey I wanted to be aware. It’s the last times with CF (no longer calling her ATF, I’m learning) she did it right out of the book down to being on her knees looking up at me — at the end of VIP time. These I didn’t see the first times. I don’t have issue with trying to increase her money uptake. This is business. But the last time was getting not too far from nagging. Definitely killed my mood. I actually told her, a bit, but the music was loud.
Lol, thinking on it now, I probably sound like that old guy on TV who pines for the way it was. I’m pining for the way it was the first times. AAA+
The advice I’m taking is start looking for candidates for the rotation.