Trump indictment looming
mark94
Arizona
Saturday, March 18, 2023 1:02 PM
Alvin Bragg, the district attorney for New York County, has impaneled a grand jury looking into Trump’s payment to Stormy Daniels. His theory is that paying her hush money was an illegal campaign contribution.
Last week, he offered Trump an opportunity to testify to the Grand Jury. Trump declined. Under New York law, this offer is required and is often the last step before an indictment and arrest. An arrest could take place as soon as this week.
Trump supporters, and perhaps others, would view this arrest as political overreach. Those on the left, and anti-Trump RINOS, would see this as Justice.
Trump attorneys could delay a trial until after the 2024 primaries and Presidential election. This means the entire country would effectively be the jury.
Last week, he offered Trump an opportunity to testify to the Grand Jury. Trump declined. Under New York law, this offer is required and is often the last step before an indictment and arrest. An arrest could take place as soon as this week.
Trump supporters, and perhaps others, would view this arrest as political overreach. Those on the left, and anti-Trump RINOS, would see this as Justice.
Trump attorneys could delay a trial until after the 2024 primaries and Presidential election. This means the entire country would effectively be the jury.
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I think that’s where Trump opponents make their biggest mistake. They think America First is a personality cult. They think if they bring an indictment against Trump, that will put an end to the movement. It won’t.
If Trump falls, Desantis can pick up the standard and run with it.
Republicans need someone more moderate to lure away moderate democrats and that’s not Trump. By the time Election Day comes I fear Desantis will piss off just about as many people as Trump. I think he’s pushing the anti-woke a little too far. I don’t have the answer but I don’t think it’s either of these guys.
Some people think Trump is being persecuted but I don’t think enough of the country feels the same way. Going after “woke” and abortion is not going to swing many moderate democrats and at the moment I think that’s what many people feel is Desantis platform.
Change my mind if I’m rong.
Depending what party of the country you are in, but I often see a lot more people for work than you’d think. They are the Bernie Sanders/AOC/Socialism anti-white camp even though they are white themselves.
If Trump or Desantis become the GOP nominee you’re going to have 4 more of Biden.
Change my mind if I’m rong
The only hope we have is to vote in politicians who will establish policies that get us back on track. The attacks on Trump are an attempt to stop this.
He doesn’t care about the cogency of the charges - he just wants MSNBC to broadcast the perp walk and The NY Times and Washington Post to publish front page pictures of Trump’s mugshot.
Let’s hope none of TUSCLERs ever run for office, because Bragg might go after every one of us who ever paid a stripper for OTC
The only chance Republicans have is to nominate someone who is proudly, boldly pro-American and pro-Freedom.
I don’t care if that’s Trump, Desantis, or someone else who is America First. Just don’t nominate some squish who doesn’t stand for anything.
So net-net this is a blatant and frankly concerning abuse of prosecutorial powers for political purposes. This should have been handled as a routine civil settlement, not a ridiculous circus act. Like Trump or not, prosecutors are expected to use their powers judiciously, yet this guy is whipping a nothing burger like he just discovered high stakes fraud and embezzlement.
The hyper-emotional and perpetually outraged types who are cheering this on are missing the much broader implications, as is often the case with these foolish types. Once this type of prosecutorial abuse becomes acceptable, nobody is safe. What is done to me, can be done to thee, when the shoe is on the other foot.
Trump is running and will not withdraw. Because that is not what winners do. And if he somehow loses the primary, he will run as a third party candidate because ego, need for attention and lust for campaign money (which is sweeter than real estate manipulations) command it. A third party run will not be about winning, it will be about burning it down. (Just remember Eugene Debs, woke as woke could be, charged with ten counts of sedition, found guilty, sentenced to ten years, and ran his 1920 presidential campaign from Atlanta Federal Penitentiary and got 3.4% of the vote. As a Socialist)
/my favorite bumpersticker: Under Republicans, man exploits man. Under Democrats, it's just the opposite.
//not a democrat
Sorry skibum, but "decent human being"? To me the guy is nothing but fucking dogshit.
i'm actually surprised that this hasn't been brought up here: stormy daniels accepting that hush money - isn't this considered blackmail? ny state law says that this is a felony punishable up to 4 years behind bars?
The moonbat head juror didn’t treat it seriously. Party with the prosecutor ?
Personally I would rather see Trump go down for something bigger, such as the obstruction to return classified documents and attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
If Trump loses the Republican primary, he will claim it was stolen from him like the 2020 election. Even if he did not run a third party campaign, at a minimum he would never concede, never endorse the nominee, and would not encourage his supporters to vote for the nominee. A significant percentage of his supporters would stay home on Election Day and he would ensure the Dems win. Again.
This is from someone who voted for Trump twice, though really someone who voted against the Democrats. Trump is a malignant narcissist, a cancer who is now actively and intentionally damaging the party that elected him.
The one thing I want from Trump now is the one thing he will never do, quietly fade into the background.
Saying this I have a feeling that this is just more bullshit cooked up by that fat con merchant.
That's a lot of faith in a DAs office the routinely fucks things up so badly in a town where routine crimes are out of control.
But with that said, do they have proof of a misdemeanor recordkeeping violation? Probably. Do they have him dead to rights on a felony charge? Probably not, which is the problem here. This should have been handled as a routine civil settlement, not a ridiculous circus act. Like Trump or not, prosecutors are expected to use their powers judiciously, yet this guy is whipping a nothing burger like he just discovered high stakes fraud and embezzlement.
Once this type of prosecutorial abuse becomes acceptable, nobody is safe. What is done to me, can be done to thee, when the shoe is on the other foot.
“There’s hundreds of videos and pictures of Hunter Biden on his laptop smoking crack, weighing huge amounts of crack, waving around an illegal firearm, and having sex with hundreds of girls who look “extremely” young.
There’s also a mile of evidence on his and Joe Biden’s pay for influence schemes with China, Russia, and Ukraine - and I guarantee he hasn’t paid a dime of taxes on his extorted millions.
Yet, our rotten FBI and DOJ lead by AG Garland and Christopher Wray haven’t done jack shit because they’re corrupt traitors whose sole purpose seems to be the personal jackboots for the Democrat party.”
Personally I find the democratic fixation on Trump the man to be comical. Trumpian populism is here to stay, no matter whom the standard bearer. Like someone said above, the left thinks Trump _is_ the movement, and they're mistaken.
Trying to moderate itself to win "moderate" voters is a relic of the past. The democratic media savaged McCain and Romney for the crime of running against their Chosen One. A slightly pro choice, woke-neutral, bipartisanship-embracing Republican would pick up only a few crossover votes. Dems would still flock to Biden. Conservatives would stay home or vote 3rd party.
An indictment will motivate Trump’s core, validate their mistrust in the judicial system and the media. If anything it'll satiate Democrats who hyperfixate on him and have already turned out en masse against them. I've also heard "we've got him now!" about Trump so many times that until he's in cuffs, I just DGAF.
I have to think Trump's arrogance is a factor in all of this too. He insulted Daniels with names like "horseface", called Bragg a racist, and badmouthed Cohen after he became the fall guy for Trump. Trump is an arrogant and vindictive person, among many other things, and it's coming back to bite him.
I agree. He’s also 100 times better as President than Joe Biden. I can put up with arrogance if it keeps us out of war, lowers inflation, and secures the border.
Soon, not a red-blooded man with testosterone in the country will be able to run for office without some bimbo complaining or telling tales out of school
Would it be illegal for me to use my own money to pay a dancer money to keep her mouth shut about what we once did in a club?
In other words, they found a way to turn a misdemeanor into a felony.
We've all known he did this forever. We really need to streamline our justice system.
It is a publicity stunt to get attention for his Presidential campaign and divide and conquer.
~ SanchoRG, Texas
~ Joined Aug, 2017
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/19/politics/…
Ron DeSantis commenting when asked if he believed that Trump would be indicted this week on charges of campaign violations that are the subject of this discussion.
LOL
What struck me was as he rambled on and on, he seemed to completely ignore the fact that laws had been broken (per the DA). He also tried to make the argument that Bragg was bringing these charges because Trump is running in 2024, and referenced prior statements from Bragg about his intentions. But that goes back to before Trump announced he was running, so Bragg's motivation was about the law, not about an election.
I will give Tucker Carlson credit, it takes a special kind of talent to conceal his hatred for Trump and appear indignant in order to avoid alienating the Fox News viewership, and keep his multi-million dollar salary.
“During his first year in office in 2022, Alvin Bragg downgraded 52% of felony cases to misdemeanors, which was up from 39% in 2019 under the prior district attorney, the New York Post reported.
His office won felony convictions at a rate of 51%, down from 68% in 2019. His misdemeanor conviction rate was 29%, compared to 53% in 2019.
Bragg declined to prosecute 1,119 felony cases during his first 11 months in office compared to 828 declined in 2019 by his predecessor, a 35% increase.”
And, yet, he is upgrading Trump’s charges from a misdemeanor to a felony.
From Wiki:
“Alinsky would find an external antagonist to turn into a "common enemy" for the community within which he was operating. Often, this would be a local politician or agency that had some involvement with activity concerning the community. Once the enemy was established, the community would come together in opposition of it. This management of conflict heightened awareness within the community as to the similarities its members shared as well as what differentiated them from those outside of their organization. The use of conflict also allowed for the goal of the group to be clearly defined. With an established external antagonist, the community's goal would be to defeat that enemy”
Trump is evil ! Stand with the people ! He belongs in jail !
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ma…
Let us know when he becomes the second American President to get arrested, he’s such a loser that U. S. Grant was actually the first American president to get arrested.
A Letter from Michael Cohen’s lawyer to the Federal Election Committee from 2018 states that Cohen used his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Stormy Daniels and neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction, neither reimbursed him for the payment directly or indirectly.
https://youtu.be/gPrg8GVdIy4
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