A strip thinks I'm creepy and spreading it around a club.

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Robot2023
I went to a club and had a really good time with a stripper. Well she asked me to meet up OTC. Text her and we made plans. She then cancels literally at the time that I was there.

About a week later I stopped by the club. I walk in and I watch the stage show for a little bit, about 30 minutes. She then comes out sees me as I am getting ready to leave (it was boring that night). I guess she goes change and as I'm walking out the door she goes up to the bouncer points at me and then he escorts her out. As I am heading to my car he escorts her out and stares at me the whole time. Come to find out, she supposedly told the other strippers I was creepy there.
Now that's one of my most favorite clubs and it seems like I'm being labeled a creep. I don't know what to do now. I kind of feel bad for making her feel that way even though I didn't do anything. I know how some people are with strippers. I might just have to not go back. What would you guys do?

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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
There are huge gaps in this story. How do you know (or suspect) that she told other strippers that you're creepy?

No one has banned you from that club, so you could just keep going (and don't be creepy). Or, go to another club for a couple of months (don't be creepy there either) and return to the favorite club after that to see if the atmosphere has changed.

Of course, the best advice is... don't be creepy.
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TheeOSU
2 years ago
Maybe you give off creepy vibes without even thinking or knowing about it as demonstrated with the choice of your screen name.
Robot? Robots can be pretty creepy and they never know it.











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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
Everyone always talks shit about everyone. Trust me if you spend money and the girls want and know how to make money, then you can still have a good time. Sometimes the sht talking is real, sometimes people make everything up. It is a part of the environment.
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rockie
2 years ago
Avoid the dancer in question and don't be at the club during shift change.
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Robot2023
2 years ago
You are correct that I don't know if she's already spreading that. She definitely told the bouncer something.

To fill it in a little bit more she told me to text her when I want to meet up with her. I did. I told her the place she said okay. Then the day of she text me asked if we are still going. I said yes then she cancels.

I did not make any of the advances she did. She wanted to meet outside the club. She was the one that canceled?

I don't know. I'm thinking her saying she wants me to meet with her OTC was to try to get some money while I was in the club. I took it at face value. Now I'm here.

I think I'll just skip that club for a while. It just sucks that it's the most high mileage club around here and I would have to drive to the other side of the state to get as good but definitely better service.
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Ulrik79
2 years ago
More than likely she didn't want to have a bad interaction with you because she canceled on you. Probably not the first time she has canceled on someone and then the next time they saw her in the club they blew up or gave her a hard time. Also could be based on how long of a gap between her canceling and you showing up at the club. If you went to the club the day after she canceled she might assume you were TRYING to find her for a face to face and been scared.

Just my 2 cents
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Robot2023
2 years ago
@Ulrik79 You're probably the closest to the truth.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Think about what you did that could be interpreted as creepy
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Robot2023
2 years ago
Went to the club a week later.
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misterorange
2 years ago
If she labeled you a creep, and you have no idea why, it's because you're a legitimate fucking creep and you think the creepy vibes you send out are simply flirtatious interactions.
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docsavage
2 years ago
It's possible you did something wrong. It's also possible you did something she misinterpreted that then led to the name calling. Monday night I was sitting in a strip club. Suddenly, I saw a stripper I had never seen before running at me. She then jumped onto my lap really hard and hurt my leg in doing so. I said, "don't do that". She then angrily replied "you're weird" and stalked off.

She was oblivious she hurt me and thought I told her don't get on my lap because I didn't want her touching me or something. I just dismissed her calling me weird because of this. However, if I started having strippers calling me weird, creepy or some other insult on a regular basis then I would think about my behavior that might be causing that. I would only worry about it if more than one stripper calls you creepy.
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rickthelion
2 years ago
What you have to understand Mr. Robot is that most hairless apes experience something called the “uncanny valley”.

A robot that looks very mechanical, like the Robbie from the excellent NASA documentary called “Forbidden Planet”, doesn’t scare normal hairless apes because they know it is a robot. Likewise, a robot that is a perfect copy of a hairless ape, like the hot chick in Blade Runner, does not scare hairless apes.

My hypothesis is that you are a good but not great robot. The sexy female hairless ape looked at you and initially thought all was good. Then she noticed something off - the simple fact that you’re a robot - and got all wigged out. Shit like that happens. Not sure what to tell you..my only advice would be to stop being a robot. But you can’t do that. ROAR!!!
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Cashman1234
2 years ago
Even after the OP’s follow up comments, there are still huge gaps in his story. I’m thinking misterorange is correct, as the OP is creepy and is unable to understand why he comes off as creepy.
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Lisrid
2 years ago
I understand how frustrating it is to be labeled a creep for something you didn't do. It sounds like you handled the situation with the stripper respectfully and did not do anything to make her feel uncomfortable.

In this situation, I would reach out to the club manager and explain the situation. You can explain that you ran into the stripper at the club and that you had plans to meet up previously, but that she canceled last minute. You can also explain that she accused you of being creepy when you were not, and that you would like to clear your name. The club manager may be able to talk to the other strippers and get your name cleared so that you can continue to visit the club without worrying about being labeled a creep.

It's understandable that you don't want to go back to the club if the strippers are giving you a hard time. However, I think it's worth trying to talk to the club manager to see if they can help.
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rickdugan
2 years ago
There could be countless possible reasons. Are you developmentally or emotionally challenged in some way? Do you have severely under-developed social skills?

I will say though that, IME, the number one issue which earns a guy that label is fixation behavior. Almost every one of these girls worries about being stalked (or worse) by some guy who gets too attached. Perhaps think about what you may be doing or saying which makes her believe that you’re getting a little too fixated. Like seeming a bit too excited or needy when seeing her. Or giving her a death stare from 30 feet away when she’s occupied with another customer. Or something else along those lines.

This is supposed to be casual entertainment. Behave like it is and learn not to take anything personally. I suspect that you’re experiences will improve once you get to the point where you appear more relaxed and casual ITC.
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rickdugan
2 years ago
===> "In this situation, I would reach out to the club manager and explain the situation. You can explain that you ran into the stripper at the club and that you had plans to meet up previously, but that she canceled last minute."

Is this a joke? You want him to whine to the club manager about how things went sideways when his plans to meet up with her OTC, for what the manager will inevitably assume was sex for money, fell through?

Are you a complete moron? You NEVER involve a manager in your extracurricular negotiations, for any number of reasons. It's also not the managers job to dictate to dancers how they feel about a guy and/or whether they choose to avoid him.
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georgmicrodong
2 years ago
I think this sounds a lot like the stories BigThirdEye and MoneyMan1234told, which also never happened.
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elmer
2 years ago
^ Ha I was thinking the exact same thing
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jackslash
2 years ago
Strippers cancelling on you is not uncommon in the world of OTC. At least this dancer let you know. Sometimes they just don't show up.

Once a stripper cancelled on me, telling me she was not feeling well. Not having anything better to do, I went to the club that evening. There's the stripper on stage. I try not to take things like that personally.
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Champphilly
2 years ago
May be she ran a background check by using your phone number prior coming to otc.
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Uprightcitizen
2 years ago
This ^^

Or someone told her something about you that may or may not be true.

Or you are omitting vital parts of the story
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shanny72
2 years ago
Fuck what they think. Put her on "ignore". Delete the contact and act like she doesn't exist. The reason there's so many strippers is so you can just move on to the next one whenever you want.

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jackslash
2 years ago
Dancers have messy lives. Dependence on drugs and alcohol, kids without someone to care for them, stalker customers, overdue bills, jealous boyfriends, court appearances, eviction notices. You can't expect them to keep appointments and honor commitments like most of us would.
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Robot2023
2 years ago
Only thing I am ommiting is first time we meet she hung out with me at the club. Told me all about her family, second job, and other things she does for fun. We had tons of similarities as she went first and I second on the info. Had a dance that included kissing. During and after she mentioned that we should definitely meet OTC. Then the stuff above happened.

My main concern when I originally put this up was my rep for that club. But a club next door is my favorite but sadly less extra prone.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
My advice hasn't changed. Either take a break from that club, or keep going to that club. Either way, don't be creepy. And if you're not being creepy, then move on to a dancer that brings less drama.

You're only going to get so much from a bunch of people who don't know you and aren't there.
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drewcareypnw
2 years ago
My advice:

It's just one girl suggesting otc, and then no-showing one time. Then, she saw you at the club and played the victim. Who knows why, it doesn't matter and if you heard her actual reasoning it probably wouldn't make any sense. Maybe the manager was showing off for the dancer, or maybe he really was mad. Who knows. I'm assuming you haven't left something out that would be legitimately creepy. So if you told her you were going to kill her puppy bc of the no show, consider your behavior and skip directly to #3.

You can:

1. Go back asap and see what the vibe is. I bet there are plenty of dancers at that club that will still take your money. If the otc no-show is drama, the other girls will know it, and disregard her "warnings".

2. Wait 2 months and go back. Many dancers will have moved on, and if drama girl has persisted in her drama, she will have been fired. The manager probably won't remember you.

3. Find a new club, don't accept otc invitations from dancers the first time you meet them, a modicum of shared trust goes a long way. Remember to be non threatening, patient, and kind. You won't have this problem again.

In all cases:

Icey is right: consider what you did that she might have found creepy. Not what you think is creepy, what SHE might think is creepy.

Rick (non lion type) is right: don't appear fixated on the dancer, keep your cool and emotional distance at all times.





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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
Drew said "So if you told her you were going to kill her puppy bc of the no show, consider your behavior..."

Hold on... taking notes...
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rickdugan
2 years ago
===> "My main concern when I originally put this up was my rep for that club. But a club next door is my favorite but sadly less extra prone."

Just play it cool on your next visit or two and spend on a few girls and your "rep" will quickly recover. Most of these girls probably won't remember the details by the time you visit again. The ones who do probably won't care if you are spending and otherwise seem chill.

This notion that a girl can permanently mess things up for a guy in a club is way overblown. Sure they can sometimes mess things up for a night if they are mad at you and trash you in the DR for something, but there is generally no Ya Ya Sisterhood in a club where chicks have bills to pay. Many of the other girls, even if they remember you in the future, will make up their own minds if you have cash in your pockets.

But it would very much help if you stopped doing things like following chicks out to their cars. Just sayin. 😆
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K
2 years ago
"She then comes out sees me as I am getting ready to leave (it was boring that night). I guess she goes change and as I'm walking out the door she.."

if i read this correctly, you were getting ready to leave, she goes back in the DR, changes and comes out just as you were leaving.

How long does it take you to get up and walk to the door?

A reasonable person would interpret this as, you were leaving, you saw her, you stayed 15 minutes, maybe longer, waited for her to come out of the dressing room to leave at the same time she did.

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Robot2023
2 years ago
I didn't know she was leaving till after I walked out and saw her. I should have put that in the original post as that is important info.
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misterorange
2 years ago
^^ K

I knew there was something not right about OP and his story. Hadn't given it too much thought, but your forensic analysis is spot on! That's a big missing piece of the puzzle right there!
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
So you were gonna leave. But saw her go into the dressing room. Waited. Then left as she did. I don't think she's saying you're creepy as much as she's warning others about that behavior

That would be creepy by any standard. But especially in the sc setting.

I'm surprised there's not a different exit for dancers or that a bouncer or security didn't walk her out.
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Robot2023
2 years ago
I suck at explaining step by step. Here is what happened...
0.I stay at the club around 30 min (day time and not a single girl comes up to me...weird for this club).
1. I get up to leave and head to exit/bathroom area. I notice her looking at me and goes back to the back.
2. I use bathroom before leaving.
3. I get out tip bartender. Then head out.
4. She comes out changed, goes to bouncer and points as I walk out.
5. I get to my car and she and bouncer walk out to her ride. Staring at me.

Putting myself in her place, I can understand now. Especially if she delt with a stalker/obsessive person before.

I think I'll skip the club for a while. Should I text her and say we should keep it a "professional" thing and I won't be there for a while? When I do come back she can dance for me if she wants?

That sounds creepy now lol
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georgmicrodong
2 years ago
@Robot: " Should I text her and say we should keep it a "professional" thing and I won't be there for a while?"

Yeah, sure, that'll reassure her. 🤦‍♂️

Assuming you're making this up as you go along, that is.
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drewcareypnw
2 years ago
Good! You’ve now shared and realized your mistake. Presuming it’s an honest mistake, I’ll suggest you take option 2.
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drewcareypnw
2 years ago
To be clear: don’t text or contact her in any way. Don’t get a dance from her 6 months down the line. You accidentally blew it with her, and now you need to find other strippers. There are many. Good luck!
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Hank Moody
2 years ago
Who gives a fuck. The bouncer didn’t kick you out or ban you.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
I'm well on my way to not taking this seriously.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
It sounded like a cacaplop thread but how may profiles can he have...
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Robot2023
2 years ago
Thank you all. I'm just going to leave it behind me and go to a different club when I go out.
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whodey
2 years ago
Just go back to the club and have fun with other dancers. Once you spend some money and are polite with other dancers any perceived hit to your reputation will quickly be forgotten by the other dancers.

I would just stear clear of the dancer in question going forward. Anything you approach her and say or do once she perceived you as a potential stalker will only reinforce that idea to her. Assuming you aren't fixated on her it should be easy to find another dancer (or preferably several) to have fun with going forward.
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ww
2 years ago
If you did nothing wrong, why do you feel the need to go to a different club?

Is she the only reason why you liked this club?

That seems odd. And a tad bit creepy. 😂
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rickdugan
2 years ago
===> "Should I text her and say we should keep it a "professional" thing and I won't be there for a while?"

Whenever a purported customer posts about keeping it "professional" or "business" I instantly know that it's a jerkoff posting, very possibly a female jerkoff.

Why (The person behind this account and countless others might ask)? Because this is not business for the guy - it's hot girl groping and/or pussy chasing and/or whatever other related entertainment activity fits.

When I go to an amusement park, do I keep things professional and all business? Of course not. Sure it's business for the people working there, but it's all shits and giggles for me.

You need to learn how to get out of your own head and into the character that you are trying to portray. Seriously now. And stop using "strip" like it's a real slang term for stripper or strip club because it ain't. It just makes you look like you're trying too hard.

Sheesh.
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TheeOSU
2 years ago
'but how may profiles can he have...'


Can't say for sure except that he hasn't caught up to you yet dougie. Lulz
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dogchain
2 years ago
Strip clubs exist for creepy people to hang out at. If they banned every creepy person they would have like a quarter of their customers left on a good day. Don't worry about it. Keep on creepin on!
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drewcareypnw
2 years ago
^a pretty good point
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Rick going full sjg pretending him paying for sex isn't hiring a hooker a d it's not a business transaction. And if you say it is you must be a bitter woman who hates tricks who aren't really tricks coz they're not paying hookers for aex when they Pay hookers for sex 😭😭😭😂😂😂🤡🤡😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
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rickdugan
2 years ago
^^ Icee, are you educating us again honey? It's always cute when a 20-something year old girl shares her deep wisdom with guys twice her age and with 50 times her experience. Keep up the good work kiddo. 😉
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Jascoi
2 years ago
we all know that dancers (and women in general) are totally level-headed and rational...

am I right?
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NJBalla
2 years ago
I dont feel sad that you were labeled as a creep. I more feel bad that you dont have 3 other clubs to visit in driving distance. Why are you worrying about 1 club? Do you live in alaska? Thats why you use this site. My problems are exactly the opposite. I get too much attention because im labeled the nice guy
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Muddy
2 years ago
Word to the wise, take off the trench coat.
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Robot2023
2 years ago
I forgot.JK.
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Specialj
2 years ago
I’m willing to bet people that Don’t go to strip clubs consider 100% of the people who do got to strip clubs are creepy.
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Elitis
2 years ago
How to fix this step by step (for future reference)
0.I stay at the club around 30 min (day time and not a single girl comes up to me...weird for this club).

Response: So, you sat around and didn't approach any of the girls yourself? That makes it appear that you're there for another purpose other than to get dances and have a good time. How it looks: your OTC girl cancels on you. You then show up at the club a week later on a night she happens to be working. You don't get any dances from anyone. She probably had been watching you for a bit and thought you were there for her.

1. I get up to leave and head to exit/bathroom area. I notice her looking at me and goes back to the back.

Response: She notices you and immediately dips out once you notice the staring. This is called "avoiding confrontation". It should have been your first sign that something was wrong.

2. I use bathroom before leaving.

Response: This one is fine.

3. I get out tip bartender. Then head out.

Response: So, *after* noticing her staring at you and fleeing back into the dressing room, you disappear for a few minutes to go to the restroom. That's fine. Your mistake was not immediately leaving after. How it probably looked (to her): you came there looking for her, didn't see her so were about to leave. Noticed her at the last second and decided to stay and wait. Tip before you leave next time. Why go to the restroom only to return to the main area *just* to then walk back out the same way? (assuming the bathroom and exit are the same way)

4. She comes out changed, goes to bouncer and points as I walk out.

Response: she came out changed and you were *still* there. Not talking to any other dancers. Not getting any dances. Of course, *we* (now) know you went to the restroom and came back in to tip the bartender, but *she* didn't know that. Again, tip before you leave next time.

5. I get to my car and she and bouncer walk out to her ride. Staring at me.

Response: At this point, it should be clear she thought you were waiting for her inside the club and/or would be waiting for her outside. Bouncers walking the girls out to their cars happens often enough, though.
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rickthelion
2 years ago
Normally I would tell the OP to listen to the dugan. After all, the dugan is the smartest hairless ape on the planet. But in this case I think my brother from a hairless ape mother is wrong.

Now hear me out. I still say that most of you damn dirty apes are ignoring the fact that the OP appears to identify as a robot. I assumed that mean he was actually a horny mandroid and that was the source of his problems. After all, I think we can all agree that horny mandroids are the worst kind of mandroids.

Now, I’m sure that the dugan is skeptical of the robot hypothesis. Indeed, he insisted that the last fembot I fucked was not an actual sex robot and he was correct. Turns out I was humping a sofa. But I am not responsible for that error. I had been driving 36 hours straight and was outta my head on cough medicine and drivin’ whiskey.

Anyhoo, back the the topic at hand. Imma settle this once and for all: OP, are you or are you not a horny mandroid? And, if you are not a mandroid, why the fuck do you call yourself Robot2023?
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Robot2023
2 years ago
I can confirm that I am a hairless shiny ape. The name was random plus the year.
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K
2 years ago
Robot

would you mind posting the text chats you had with her? We can help you better if we have that. edit out any personal identifying information.

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whodey
2 years ago
"Word to the wise, take off the trench coat." Never tell a creep to take off the trench coat since he is likely naked underneath it.
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ilbbaicnl
2 years ago
It's a good thing if a club will escort a dancer to her car, no questions asked. But club staff should know the obvious, that there are both loopy dancers and loopy customers. So the accused should get the benefit of the doubt when accusations are made. Avoid her, to the point of getting up and walking away if she approaches or tries to sit with you. Block her phone. Hope they have good video surveillance in the club. If a bouncer says she accused you of bothering her, ask them to check the video. Of course, loopy club staff is also common. I had to stop going to a club that I otherwise liked, because of a loopy VIP minder.
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rickmacrodong
2 years ago
If it was something you said over text, it can be easy to come across creepy if you’re a 40 or 50+ year old man. An oldet man isn’t going to be up to date with the text lingo of a younger person.
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