Every strip club is turning into a night club and you'll pay with Bitcoin

a lot of clubs try to be like nightclubs. I don't really mind. Sometimes they do a good job of it.

The butcoin thing is dumb tjough

ID scanning is bad enough. Bitcoin is a hard no.

Ever been to Eleven in Miami. It's a lot of fun. Probably because the female customers are as hot as the strippers.

To me the use of Bitcoin sets up the possibility of a private transaction between the customer and the dancer to be traced. I wonder if it's less of a cool thing to do and more like a way to track how much a dancer gets to get their cut.

Strip clubs do seem like something left over from another era when women were seen as primarily sex objects and their job was to please men. Younger men and women are no longer comfortable with that type of relationship.

Several of my local strip clubs have tried to move to being a nightclub for younger people but have had mixed results. Attractive strippers only show up when they can make money and a major source of income for them has always been middle aged men with successful careers. When the club targets younger people drink sales hold up but these girls make less money off younger guys. What I have seen is crowded clubs with increasingly unattractive strippers up on stage who are increasingly ignored by the young people using it as a nightclub. The unattractive strippers then start driving off customers because they aren't pleasant to look at and are very overly aggressive trying to sell lap dances to make money.

At some point they may just drop the strippers completely. The only problem with this is that there already are lots of bars, dance clubs and night spots for young people and converted strip clubs will have to compete with that. They won't have their own unique market niche.

Bitcoin is failing faster than strip clubs. Civilian women already ruin strip clubs.

What happened to the good ol’ days when Ricks had a laissez faire attitude towards things? When they used to buy up clubs but then leave them alone, which apparently was not a thing with their more recent acquisitions.

It’s just so weird to me just because I remember XTC in San Antonio which is only about 3 hours from their headquarters and which tbh probably should have had more active corporate monitoring but didn’t. If that was where they were at, maybe take more baby steps when trying to assert leadership. Instead of going on social media to post stupid things like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/stripper/commen…

…and then there he is more recently with a “new” marketing idea. 🤦🏻‍♀️

"Sorry baby we still have 14 confirmations before we start"

I liked the Bitcoin idea until I lost 10 million in Bitcoin over the weekend.

And it’s mind boggling that nobody there seems to have done even one single google search about Gen Z. There’s sooo many headlines about Gen Z being more conservative about drinking alcohol or engaging in high risk behavior in general. One random example:
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/202…

And there are also so many headlines about Gen Z mental health issues, especially anxiety and depression
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/article…
(the “make people feel inadequate” vibe of nightclubs and blaring loud music is not going to be a motivating place for people dealing with that. )

Also, plenty of headlines about the decline of nightclubs as well
https://whitehutchinson.com/news/lenews/…

Personal opinion: Gen Z, when they do come in, buys lapdances, and I have no problem stacking dances with them. Their social anxiety actually makes things easier for me because they will often ask for a dance before I do that, and they don’t want to deal with the stress of trying to carry a conversation with me. And they get multiple dances. And, despite a few exceptions. they aren’t Karen-ing for higher mileage and tend to get uncomfortable if I do too much too quickly, so I’ve learned to put more air in the dances with them.

If I ran a club catering to them I’d:

1. Give them a chill environment, and don’t let the extra aggressive brutal hustlers trigger them so they leave and never come back. And not just from dancers, but also staff members who want to push alcohol sales.

I literally remember this one guy who went back and fourth between me and another dancer and bought a bunch of dances from us both. With me, he walked up to my stage to ask for dances initially. With her, she was going hard to get him back there. Towards the end, he said he really only wanted to dance with me but he struggled with saying no to her. Yes, a lot of older guys and dancers themselves would mock him for that, but I honestly think that’s a common enough trait with young guys and shouldn’t be ignored if the longevity of clubs are actually important.

2. I’d also brighten up the lights and turn down the volume. There would be racial and body diversity (because Gen Z views more than just skinny white girls as a beauty standard) but all the dancers would be pretty and still look good even in a brighter setting—so doing that shouldn’t be a deterrent. It would make for a better environment for them to be able to relax in.

3. Also, have stricter rules against pushy behavior from dancers or other staff members. These guys don’t need to be “convinced”—they will either buy or not buy. Buuuut let’s face it, that’s pretty much the antithesis of how clubs like to run themselves, from either staff members or dancers (aside from those pesky young dancers that hang out on their phones all the time and won’t circulate)…and the industry is doomed lol

Also, why is only Bitcoin and not the adorable Doge coin going to be accepted?

Why assume that when guys say they like thin girls that black, Hispanic and Asian women aren't a huge part of that? Skinny isn't a race.

^Tell that to the strip club hiring practices.

Ooh yeah, and I’d also encourage everyone to take a trauma informed certification course, that the club itself would sponsor. That way dancers could get better trained with dealing with the behaviors of lonely guys in a less adversarial way. I guess the titty bar I’d run would be a pretty woke one. 😂 And also, some of the non-alcoholic liquors out there look pretty interesting. Why can’t more places make alternative cocktails?

I’m not claiming that anything that I’d say would be the solution, just a better idea than whatever moronic thing this Ricks CEO is saying. Dude needs to just get off the Twitter and snort cocaine and not bother anyone.

"Also, why is only Bitcoin and not the adorable Doge coin going to be accepted?"

Because the owner of Rick's is a bitcoin investor and he knows the only way his internet funbux goes up in value is if he forces other people into it.

I have no problems with adding bitcoin payment options to strip clubs, customers and dancers will quickly realize why it sucks as a payment option.

This is a recipe doomed from the start

I can relate to what nice spice said about not liking a dancer to do too much too quickly and the thing about pushy behavior. I don't need to be sold anything. I know what I want. And I'm not looking for extras or to fondle girls.

I've told girls I'm not into fondling strangers for money and I'm sure she doesn't like being findled by strangers either. To just twerk for me. Never had a negative reaction to that lulz. And after a few drinks they're usually the ones fondling me.

A lot of clubs will make non alcoholic drinks if you ask. My favorite club doesn't serve alcohol but has slushies and coconut water served in coconuts.

Girls can make money in clubs that are like regular clubs. They usually get much better stage tips and being invited to a section guarantees a few hundred.

I love dark loud clubs though. The darker tye better and I love heavy bass sounds.

Strip clubs are better party spots because they have better eye candy better music and are cheaper than clubs.

Basically these clubs are just more like black clubs.

What I hate and think has no future are strip clubs that try to be lounges. Selling hookah and bottles or you don't get to sit. Some selling bar stools for like $50 and you must have a drink at all times.

I’m convinced that @nicespice is the smartest, most informed contributor to this forum.

We need a new cryptocurrency just for titty bars: Titcoin.

A very mba presentation, interesting. Strip clubs catering to 21-25 year olds seems like a bad idea to me. They don't have much money, and they can get all the hot 20 something female attention they want from their social circles, a few incels notwithstanding. Add to this the woke politics of this demo and they seem like an uninterested and unsellable customer for now. Middle aged men are horny and have cash to blow, old men are horny and have cash to blow. Those are the obvious demos to target. Also, those little precious Z's will see the light of day when their woke wives stop fucking them in their 40's and 50's, sending yet another generation of men into the open arms of America's Sex Workers.

I don't think the general characteristics of the public or any generation matter much. Adult entertainment targets niches.

"Upscale Urban" clubs (like "upscale" nightclubs in general) target people who want to feel like they are part of the "in" crowd. Hence the bitcoin crap.

If there ends up not being a club for anybody's particular niche, it will likely be the gubment's fault. The gubment just generally makes it impossible or hard to open a new club, because that's popular with a loud segment of the voters. Gubments HAVE generally done a good job of keeping adult entertainment away from residential areas. Gubments should properly focus on preventing worker (stripper) abuse.

^ This might happen (I hope it does for the sake of the sex industry), but we (boomers) were never woke, nor did we have instant access to unlimited free porn at our fingertips (or palms). So I’m afraid that before long, strip clubs and titty bars as we know them will become entertainment relics of the past, not unlike peep shows, and porno theaters. So enjoy it while you can.

@drew for most straight men, at any age, NSA sex is hit or miss, not reliably available. Many PLs go to strip clubs seeking a type of raunchiness that's self-respect-free for the female. Also not reliably available for most men at any age. A young, unmarried man often has more discretionary income than an older, married man.

There was a 19 year old who spent $700 worth of dances on me in a night a few weeks ago and however much stage tips as well. (He was with a big group and they put money all over the stage so it’s tough to count) One 36 year old spent roughly 2k on me over the course of a week not too long ago. Yes I know I’m being tacky bringing up dollar amounts here and yes most of what is spent from most young guys on me is more modest like $50-$400 but when I am praising younger customers, I’m trying to make a point that they are a worthwhile enough base and not because I am gushing over how cute they are. Clubs should cater to a variety of people of course, but no need to ignore a zoomer.

And yes demographics do matter because I’ve noticed strip clubs tend to be a good reflection of the local culture of its area. Not perfectly, but close enough.

Somebody needs to put a taco truck in the parking lot of every strip club. What’s better at 2am than a taco?

‘What’s better sat 2am than a taco”

Two tacos

I fucking love tacos

Oh and one other thing on this Ricks CEO’s speech. What’s up with the emphasis on branding as an *~adult~* nightclub to entice ? Being an adult is stressful!

But I guess if that’s what he wants to do, then hopefully all the Ricks owned clubs will start handing out seaweed mustaches
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6PdAeOOtWl…

That would be one sort of taco you could eat in the parking lot without getting banned from the club.

@nice re demographics it seems to me that, in both woke and unwoke places, there's a taboo that stops most people from going to strip clubs. In woke places, strip clubs are bad, cause if strippers instead live broke lives working 30 hours a week at both Taco Bell and Starbucks for $12/hour, they will find true love and happiness with a woke man even if they leave their eyebrows and body hair completely untrimmed. In unwoke places, strip clubs are bad, because any harloty temptation means that virile unwoke men are no longer to blame for becoming rapey.

Are you saying that, in woke places, the average PL is more polite to strippers?

I'd be curious to visit a few clubs just to see what the ladies there look like and the vibe. Eleven sounds really unique, but I've heard mixed things about the quality of girls that work there lol. Don't they still have 24 hours somewhere in Miami even when Vegas stopped doing 24? Anyways Florida has always blown me away how hot the girls are there overall, just wow seriously. I could go into some clubs and just the effin door girl would be a perfect plastic surgery 9 out of 10 on just about anyone's scale unless you're really against artifice. And like even a lot of the "sloppier fat" chicks would still be hot in FL cuz they either genetically had good proportions or just went and paid for the BBL. It seemed like every other civilian chick in FL either had plastic or wanted it lmao. And like a lot of the plastic chicks in FL still kept themselves up unlike BBL chicks in other areas who were lazy and got sloppy even after BBL which is a shame.

^Florida law requires one hour of closure for cleaning every 24 hours... In my experience Florida chicks are more likely to be spinners, at least if they were born here.

A motivated girl can make a lot of money at a club that tries to be a nite club.

From the ones I know. There's a commission on bottle and section sales. Plus she dances in the sections she sells.

The "adult" branding works. It aims to make the club appear more sophisticated.

The worst aspect is that they use nite club promoters who at times just fill the club up with their people rather than those wanting to spend money

You can tell which coast a bbl is from. It's tijuana surgeons vs the Dominican Republic

I don't see how bitcoin or moving to more digital would be good unless it accompanies bigger spending to deal with guaranteed tax forms from hell from every single club a girl works at which would get messy quickly. Clubs have all sorta been moving to a more night club/party environment. Idk, I personally don't like clubs having a bunch of people lounging around and not really spending much on any single stripper. At the same time, I also don't like clubs that are pure VIP/champagne room sales as your only source of money and customers you have to hard sell or promise/imply wild shit to make a sale/sales...and a bunch of weirdo dudes sitting around being quiet n weird (the fuck?)... So I guess a night club or party environment where all/most of the custies are spending a fair amount on at least 1 of the strippers is fine. and not just there to party and be cheap with the girls.

The old vs young argument has been discussed here ad nauseam.

There are good and shitty old custies.

There are good and shitty younger custies.

It isn't so cut and dry as young vs old and there are so many other factors involved.

It helps to keep an open mind... And I'd say this goes for custies and strippers.

Idk if I was a custie and say had a race preference or certain type but another chick ticked off every box minus one- I'd still be happy.

I have my "preferences" and stereotypes, but these are not hard and set rules ever.

Anyway whatever. Rambling and wasting time :')

^From the ones you know? Ah none. "adult" makes it seem perverted, which to a fucking moron means sophisticated. I bet you say "conversate".

Also I wanted to comment that in order for bitcoin or other weird digital currency to get bigger spending, I think it would be the same strategy as getting credit card sales to be bigger money than cash sales. The usual strategy is "oh this guy is fuuuucked up! let's take advantage of his fucked up state and get him to agree to run his card up with halfhearted yeses when he doesn't comprehend what he is saying yes to!"...

I feel like there would be some issues arising from this, but again this is just my speculation based on what I've seen with credit card sales being bigger than cash.

Skibitch i take it youve never seen an ad for an adult club or adult pool party etc.

Butcoin was worth 52k in December. Its worth 16k now. It's not real money.

yeah no offense... from what I've seen a lot of BBL's I've seen everywhere outside of Florida look like fucking shit. Not that every Florida BBL chick is perfect by any means LOL. But I have seen enough like wow holy shit 10/10 BBL's in FL and on foreign chicks that are not fucking lazy and do combine that BBL with working out and eating right... omg just beautiful :') and I'm not even gay

Icee cum stain I am a weird person who knows what I want and where to get it. Not some smarmy little jack off like you who needs to follow other smarmy jack offs who read ads.

and by foreign I don't mean these lazy fucking mexicana putas that don't work out for shit and look sloppy after a BBL. sad!

I mean like these Puerto Rican or Colombian or whatever the fuck plastic chicks in FL

Oh and since ski mentioned spinners! Yeah the skinny tiny little things in FL are hotter than other areas. Like idk I have seen a lot that are skinny but toned and not like gross skinny.

In other areas skinny strippers were usually like unhealthy yuck druggie skinny or just skinny fat bitches who are skinny yet somehow still sloppy???

Idk FL was amazing. and not just hte strippers. A lot of the civies were sooo fucking hot. Could visit a fucking publix and think what the fuck these women are so beautiful. lmfao.

My fucking complaint about plastic surgery asses and BBL in Portland...they are too fucking small! If my proportions are like ur fake proportions then u shoulda got a bigger BBL and let them know you paid for something wild! lmao

Very true Blah. It's the weather imo. Women in Florida dress skimpy 12 months a year, while in Boston they were bay layers which hide a lot 5 months of the year. Plus, I think it's much tough to overeat and eat super fatty foods in hot weather. I just lost 3 pounds on vacation down the keys.

Crypto does have the privacy advantage. But, for max privacy, you'd want to have at least two key pairs, one for naughty and one for non-naughty purchases. The pattern of all the purchases you made would be something of a fingerprint. All of the transactions associated with the public key in the pair are public, that's key to how Blockchain works.

Skibitch get that dementia treated. You're having word salad outbursts.

Blah. My problem with bbls is the way they feel. And I hate the ones where she has skinny thighs and a huge butt. I like the ones with yhe small waists and the butt that's more like a lift and matches her thighs.

I think girls in Florida look good because of yhe weather. They wear less clothes so there's more pressure to have a nice body. Vegas and Southern California are like that too

I've seen a lot of sloppy chicks in the LA area which I was shocked by. They were nowhere near as beautiful as Florida. I've visited LA a few times now and it seems very hit and miss out there, surprisingly. Before I ever went, I'd thought the chicks would be Florida level but nope!

I don't mind a big butt against somewhat smaller thighs, and I don't think that looks that unnatural. A lot of natural butts bubble out way past the thighs. But the thighs and calves need to be substantial enough to where it doesn't look like toothpicks and a diaper butt if that made sense. What bothers me the most is the stomach area on most BBL chicks who either got a bad surgery/didn't do proper aftercare/ don't maintain their shape. I have noticed a lot of chicks who get a BBL and don't maintain their body by eating ok/halfass exercising have a smallish, yet somewhat sloppy stomach lmfao. It really grosses me the fuck out. The smarter sloppy BBL bitches hide their stomachs. I don't care how dark the club is that shit is barf worthy when u see it up close the fucking psuedo cellulite weird stretchy skin and fucked up belly button etc etc yuck!

THe other thing about some BBL's that bothers me... Some of these chicks have no bubble. Like ok u built up some beautiful hip width with artificially narrow waist good job but ur butt is flat lmfao.!

BBL is wonderful for someone like me. The minute I see that fat fucking ass, I cross them off the list forever. Will never, ever get how anyone can find that attractive. Now tell me ICEE about how you know skinny women look like the little boys you fuck.

skibum, if you saw some of the fake butts in Portland, you wouldn't even know they are fake cuz they r so little lmfao.

I meant the ones that look like ants. I think the butt has to be proportionate. Even bubble butter are proportionate.

After care is key. And if you want to keep the results you need a healthier lifestyle. A lot of girls will eat like shit and drink too much. Do drugs. And theyll have busted faces and yeah the stomachs get gross looking.


LA has like 4 million people. Miami like 400k. You'll see a lot of different types.

ilb: "In woke places, strip clubs are bad".

No. Seattle is woke as fuck, but we have lots of strip clubs, and every other kind of SW as well.

hehehe. since u mentioned busted faces... I don't understand how some of these strippers age so badly like to where the body is still great but the face is holy shit scary! Like my parents are way older and have younger looking faces, so what gives?


although maybe i shouldn't talk my under eye area is a horror story. Unusually bad for a white.

"2. I’d also brighten up the lights and turn down the volume."

I feel like 95% of us want the latter. Some the former as well.
They say "if it's too loud, you're too old", and yeah, I am old. Still spend money.

Blah - Alcohol and drugs age people rapidly, as do cigarettes, late nights, poor diet. Add in tanning and wowza....

@drew Do you think most men in Seattle see nothing inherently immoral about strip clubs/SW?

I also think the lights should be brighter and music quieter. A lot of the chicks who shouldnt be dancing would weed themselves out naturally. Losing ur hearing in the clubs is also not very appealing nor yelling at someone next to you lmao

Club makeup needs dark lights. I've been I'm clubs when they closed and the lights came on....lulz

^you mean people fucking puked when they saw you? Totally get that...

@ilb: "Do you think most men in Seattle see nothing inherently immoral about strip clubs/SW?"

Most? I don't know. Here's what I do know:

* when the cops do a sting on one of the many rub and tugs, people get mad that they are wasting time and money, and make a stink, they don't congratulate the cops
* there are dozens of amps, 11 Sc's, maybe 100 bikini barista stands, hundreds of tna girls, street walkers all over aurora avenue, and many pages of sugar babies on seeking all in seattle. Somebody is getting past the immorality and paying enough cash for sex work that these people stay in business. Even without alcohol in clubs.
* many libs here see sw as a legitimate profession, to the point that the phrase "....but I'm pro sex worker" is common enough to be a trope.
* unless you are trafficking in underaged or enslaved women, or being a super nuisance in a wealthy part of town (there have been examples of each) you aren't getting busted for p4p in seattle.

I'm sure there's plenty of pissy feminists that don't approve, prudes, control freaks, and believe it or not a bunch of fundamentalist religious kooks going in for the local hardline christian churches ala Mars Hill, but for the most part Seattle seems to be cool with sw's.

If you asked a typical seattle lib what they think is immoral in america, you'd hear about racism, sexism, transphobia, wealth inequality, trump, etc. etc. standard lib spiel. Not sw's.

So I would guess we are more or less as tolerant of sw as any other US city.

@drew unfortunately I suspect that having a strand of social Libertarianism is the local wokeness is more the exception than the rule. Canada adopted the Nordic Model. Chicago has never allowed a really good strip club scene to take root. Detroit drove theirs into the suburbs. But, Seattle isn't unique in that way, maybe it's just a mixed bag.

People who oppose sexism naturally have hostility to strip clubs. Most PLs go to strip clubs to ho, but feel superior to strippers, who are generally less hos than the typical PL. I'm only OK with strip clubs, because if a woman is strong enough to handle it, she has the right to have the option to strip.

I’m no business-person/entrepreneur; so hard for me to say it this would work or not – there are businesses (strip club or not) that try to “branch out” to attract a larger-customer-base and are very-successful; and there are businesses that “branch out” and fail in their effort.

I can see certain clubs doing well if they do it right – as @Warrior mentioned, E11even in downtown Miami is a hybrid nightclub/strip-club and kinda a party-club and seems very-popular (never been) – Tootsies Miami on the weekends seems to get filled w/ a lot of partiers that seem to be there mostly for the vibe/scene vs buying dances or doing VIPs – so I can see it working for the club but makes me wonder if the dancers will do well in that type of environment where it’s more about the scene/vibe/party vs getting with the dancers.

I don’t think this would be the end of “conventional” strip-clubs – I would think there would still be a demand for them – what I would see as competition for mileage-strip-clubs is if brothels/prostitution became legal (seems in other countries where prostitution/brothels are legal; strip-clubs are not much of a thing or they are few in #s and often not that good).

@ilb: "People who oppose sexism naturally have hostility to strip clubs."

I doubt that. It seems more likely to me that people who oppose sex are hostile to strip clubs. I suspect you can't believe that liberals are anything but prudish no fun radicals, and have a hard time imagining that we like a good handy as much as the next guy. Along with a slice of avocado toast, of course. ;)

I find politics unrelated to strip clubs completely. We have 2 neighboring liberal states here: Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Mass. clubs, with a few exceptions suck. They sucked 30 years ago, they suck now. Is it liberals? Doubtful, because Rhode Island is so liberal the providence school district is being sued because if a teacher stays 3 years, they get college repaid......if they are or identify as, anything other than white. So blatantly stupid and illegal it could only happen in an uber liberal area. Rhode Island clubs are simply great. Compared to Mass. clubs they are existentially great. What gives? Culture/genetics. Boston is an Irish city. The irish aren't the most sexy people on earth, or even in the British Isles. They are Catholic, if you have sex you go to hell prudes. Providence is an Italian city and Italians are just sexy as fuck.

@ski: “ I find politics unrelated to strip clubs completely”

That seems believable to me. Based on reviews here FL is some kind of Mecca for dirty lap dances, and is conservative. Seattle is pretty damn great extras wise, and liberal. It must be something other than politics.

Probably the high average dick size of local PLs……. KIDDING!

I didn’t read this long thread, but most of the earlier comments were all totally wrong on Bitcoin, speaking as an expert on the subject.

BitcoinHodler: “…customers and dancers will quickly realize why it sucks as a payment option.”

^^ idiot loser, who is completely wrong.

However, comments about Bitcoin are irrelevant to the OP, as it seems neither of the Twitter links in the OP mention Bitcoin, neither explicitly or implicitly.

Orlando and Jacksonville don't sound that wild. Miami area does, but not that conservative. Fortunately, it seems like it's only the reddest states (TN, AL) that make clubs crappy with state-level laws.

@drew you mentioned sexism. Many liberals only pay lip-service to anti-sexism.

@ilb: you brought up sexism, not me. I thinks it’s irrelevant to strip clubs. If you want a debate about “many liberals are secretly sexist” you’re going to have to try someone else.

Anyone supporting capitalism is inherently sexist

^ Bizarre, unsubstantiated comment

@drew nope not me "If you asked a typical seattle lib what they think is immoral in america, you'd hear about racism, sexism, transphobia, wealth inequality, trump, etc. etc. standard lib spiel. Not sw's."

Generally only people who are very tribal are purely lib or cons. In my book, if someone goes to strip clubs, that's a sort of hoing, so it's hypocritical for them to call strippers hos as a put down. That seems sexist to me, but no general consensus as to what sexism is.

I wonder if Sponge Bob had to get a restraining order against nicespice. She seem potentially stalkery about him. If you do a guy who's a sponge, is he just inherently a contraceptive sponge?

Sexism has a lot to do with strip clubs. Lots of misogyny there.

Losers who can't get laid or talk to girls get to spend time rejecting scantily clad women or paying them for their company. Things they'd never have outside the club setting.

^ you’re speaking about yourself

Senile troll

^ Frenulum

"Sexism has a lot to do with strip clubs. Lots of misogyny there."

Yes, in the form of a pimping, pandering, woman beating, woman manipulating, lying, stealing piece of shit who tucks a few progressive policies make him mostly superior.

Can't get more sexist than that!

I guess I'm fucked. I don't own any Bitcoin and there are no Rick's clubs in my area.

Icee 🐵 many people expect the best of the best, or far above average when they’re paying for a dancer or escort.
So the “rejecting scantily clad women” doesnt mean its some ego stroke game it could simply mean they dont think shes worth paying for 🤡 .

And dude you paid insane amounts for a dancers company. You can call it a relationship but you were still paying her big money

Strip clubs pander to antisocial and misogynistic urges. Senses of entitlement. The girls grow to resent customers for a reason.

Personally, I don't mind clubs like Elleven, but do you really want to go to a super packed club with ridiculously loud music all the time? That said, it's wild to me how so many people think strip clubs are super gross, dangerous, or exploitative.

I mean that stuff does happen but it usually pretty rare.

You could say the same about strip clubs pandering to thief dancers, hence customers grow to resent dancers
But as with other things you only generalize one side of the equation. All cops are bad, but not all gangsters are bad. All customers are bad, not all dancers are bad 🐵

When Big3rd👁 is so done with the nonsense that he is dishing out the answers instead of questions

Cacaplop you argue like you have the English language comprehension of a retarded 12 year old never allowed to go outside.

Clubs are very exploitive. There's a dark under belly to them. It's just that they have a good facade. But that's the case with night life in general.

I don't agree. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. It really depends.

Icee i can understand why youre so hyper and angry after all that stuff skibum exposed on you. You were pimping out your sister and forcing your dad to keep dealing drugs even while he was aging and sick smh 🐵

"Clubs are very exploitive."
What does it say about you who uses the girls and the environment to make a buck?

Biggest degenerate here.

Cacaplop keep proving my point

Tetraplop. No. I've helped a lot of girls though.

Night life is a sleazy industry and women are the ones most exploited by it. That goes for bars strip clubs clubs whatever. If you're too sheltered from reality to see that then...

^ Do you understand that we all know you are fucking full of shit and a liar? It's very apparent that the single most hated male on earth is you; fucking retard.

I don't think politics has a whole lot to do with the club scene neither.

I have noticed some patterns or trends related to sexuality though in conservative/republican places vs liberal/democrat areas. I have noticed that girls in more "conservative areas" are just weird about some things. Like they will talk about "I would never wear clothes like that irl" but then they tell u all their free slutting around activities they do??? ick at least get paid lmfao, there are so many hot young men who have tried to pay me for sex so I don't think it is that difficult... I'd say the biggest sluts are in republican states by far lmfao. And there is more trash that keeps the baby but has no daddy or multiple baby daddies welfare trash in republican states. I am pro abortion cuz I hate these types of people to an extreme.

^your hate makes you want them to kill their kids? Ah such a good little democrat. Peace on earth babe.

We r overpopulated anyways.

I just think it is sad and fucked up that a lot of young women these days pop out kids by any guy to live off of govt bennies. On one hand it is the government's fault for making the system so easy to game. On the other hand idk how people just have no shame or sense of pride these days. I am for welfare being there available to use, but I don't think it is ok that we have millions and millions of people here in the US that are young/not disabled and sit on welfare for like 18 or more years. There are a number of serious issues with these types of people and "communities".

Just saw the lights comment by icey.

Idk so far I've never scared anyone off when the lights come on at the end of the night lmfao

One of my favs had a baby over the summer. The dad has money, but (in spite of what he promised her) he´s being a deadbeat. She´s working on court ordered child support. She says all the state is willing to do for her is provide child care so she can work a day job.

That is different though!

I am talking about chicks who intentionally pop out like 3 kids by 3 different men to get crazy good welfare and be a societal leach.

I am not saying anything bad about girls who have bad luck with husbands/ other men they got kids with w/e.

@blah do you know of people doing it, or have you just heard stories? I think a lot of those programs have been cut way back. In any case, parenting is work. The US, like many countries, has a demographic imbalance of age groups. Women who have babies are helping with that.