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When do men stop caring about their looks?

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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

After seeing some recent pictures of Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, David Letterman, Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger, there must be a point when old white men just say, “what the fuck, I’m rich, I don’t care what I look like”

I only bring this up because the majority of TUSCL may be approaching that state

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twentyfive

^ What pictures are you using for a reference point, those old guys that you're refering to, look pretty fit to me, if it's just about looks Neil Young was never anyone's definition of a hunk, and my guess is most of those guys are in their seventies, even Springsteen, and more active than the majority of TUSCLers.

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shadowcat

It depends on who you are trying to impress. Your health also plays a big part. Testosterone levels decrease with age. At 80 I still get cleaned up for the ladies but no so much for my buddies.

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Muddy

Fashion wise day to day I'm not sure if I ever had that sense. I still dress like when I was 9 years old most days, t shirt and gym shorts. If I got a big ass coffee stain, it's not stopping me.

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Cashman1234

I think it is very difficult to make those broad judgements.

The guys mentioned by the OP are in the public eye, and are in their 70’s, and they likely still care about their looks.

They are likely showing their age. Some of them may have lived hard lives, and that’s possibly one explanation.

Since I’ve been working from home, over the past 2.5 years, I’ve been less concerned about dressing nicely. I’m in my late 50’s, and I know that I’m showing my age. If I was still in the office 5 days a week, I would likely dress better.

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skibum609

I now have a new goal in life: Meet Muddy and see who the worst dresser between us is lol. T-shirt and soft Land's End shorts from April 1 to November 1. Then t-shirt, hoodie and sweatpants. Yes, I dress like that when I go out to eat as well.

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Manuellabore

Giving up is one thing. OTOH, trying to look way younger than you are (e.g. jet black hair in your 70s) is just sad. You can look good while still being more or less age-appropriate
Saw a pic of Springsteen recently where he looked like Woody Allen. He definitely could do better

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skibum609

Trying to look younger just makes one look foolish. When my beard and mustache started coming in gray; they were shaved off, never to return. When having longer hair started making my hair look gray, I went to a buzz cut. Looking young is more than just appearance. A number of dancers have said it's more about how vigorous a guy is (not just sexually) and how they act. Physical activity is the key, and some guidelines are: Can you bench press your body weight? How many pull ups can you do? Can you run? Can you sprint? Would you play touch football? Can you pull an all-nighter?

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Call.Me.Ishmael

Eh... everyone has lazy, grungy days. But not everyone has tabloid photographers hiding in bushes waiting to take a picture of you on a slob day so that they can run a click-bait story about it.

Health and disease play a larger role, because people focus less on being looking good when more of their mental bandwidth is consumed by a diagnosis of a long-term illness. Or, when an illness or disability makes it much harder to do do the basics of self care.

And, as we age those diagnoses occur more often and pile up.

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docsavage

No one really looks good when they are in their seventies. Just still being alive at that age is something of an accomplishment. The current U.S. life expectancy is 76 so 50% of the population die before then.

Caring less about your looks because you have wealth may be a contributing factor, though. In my case, at the age of 66 I just have a general feeling of being slightly tired all the time and that makes it harder to push myself into exercising and keeping my weight down and cooking healthy food. My weight is still normal but every year it becomes harder to keep it there. When I go on a 3-mile hike at a nearby state park I see almost no one else as old as me. I can understand why they are not there because of declining energy with age.

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rattdog

“what the fuck, I’m rich, I don’t care what I look like”

yet neil young still managed to get hitched up with daryl hannah, who used to date jfk jr. and that guy was considered one of the sexiest men alive.

btw, she looks really for good at 61 years old.

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From978

Somewhere between one and four million dollars

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shailynn

OMG - I just figured out skibum is really Bill Belichick in real life!

It’s not all the same but to me it appears most men give up somewhere in their mid to late 40s. I know once I hit 40 my metabolism took a major hit and it is very hard for me to lose weight compared to my 30s when it was very easy. It takes me effort to maintain my weight and I’d imagine most guys are like “fuck it I’ll just be fat.”

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Mate27

When I hit my 40’s, I drank coffee to depress my appetite and eat one meal and snack during the day to get to that meal. It helps witt maintaining weight along with staying active, but I haven’t cut out alcohol and that is the biggest bug a boo for weight gain. So far I’ve stayed away from graying hair and a growing belly, two things that keep me in the game for playing with strippers witt any resemblance of genuine attraction to me from regulars. Women are finicky, so they’ll all look for different things. I’ve had some tell me they prefer old white men, even when they’re AA or Hispanic. The wallet must be a turn on to them.

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docsavage

I've noticed I make more spelling and grammar mistakes as I get older due to age related brain fog. I recently used "poll" here when I meant to use "pole". There's a big difference between a stripper poll and a stripper pole.

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twentyfive

All of my spelling and grammar mistakes I blame on Siri, my smart phone only has an IQ of 25, still it's 50 Basis points higher than Desert Turd Blossom.

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skibum609

I have no beard, my hair is shorter and I eat healthier. Other than that, my life and me as a person are the exact same as in 1995. I smoke weed, drink beer, ski, golf, hike, lift weights, rock climb, go to strip clubs and take care of a huge yard. Keeping physically active is actually the best way to keep mentally sharp. One weekend soon the dying 40-foot tree in my yard is coming down. My chainsaw and I are going to do it without help.

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Huntsman

I’ve always been average looking so I never got too concerned over my looks, one way or the other. I try to be clean, eat right, exercise and generally take care of myself. The chips fall where they may from there.

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rickymacrodong

Supposedly higher calcium higher protein, lower omega 3/omega 6 and lower fat diets can help with losing fat

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san_jose_guy

I think it is actually women who beyond a point simply stop trying.

Simone de Beauvoir wrote that the expectation for women to dress to please men does not let up until they are too old.

I think for an older man, some will appreciate him, but it is based on a lot more than looks.

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Tetradon

I care more at 42 than I did in my 20s and 30s. It's easier to gain weight or get injured.

But the unhealthy habits from those days don't have their old appeal either.
I'm no longer a student; I'm working FT with a side hustle (but thankfully on things I'm passionate about).
My friends I drank 10 Ketel Ones on the rocks in a sitting with are married and most have kids (though I am back to Deutschland shortly and sneaking in an FKK trip).
I don't eat the giant meals I used to; I'd rather have smaller quantities of higher quality food.

The only vice I participate in more than then is (surprise) strip clubs, and that's because I have the cash to now.

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Age doesn't have much to do with it. It's how active you are. How well you take care of yourself.

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san_jose_guy

Health before 50 is genetics, after 50 it is habits.

And there are things that start to change after age 50 that are harder to offset.

An older man is offering more than just physicality, and more than just money though.

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JamesSD

Honestly when I went to my 10 year high school reunion a lot of my former classmates had already started letting themselves go.

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