Taking ATF on vacation

Not me, but a regular I know offers trips to Vegas with dancers and they take him up on it just for a vacation. He says he doesn't pay them anything extra but gets extras in return. He just pays the expenses and probably buys them little gifts. I've thought about it though.

My ATF was someone I saw for almost 15 years. i met her OTC exactly never. Would never even consider this.

Yes! A few times. What I paid them is: not one dime. However, I took them on a vacation they wanted, we stay at higher end places, with higher end experiences (couples massage at luxury spa, excellent restaurants, etc), and of course we do some shopping which I suppose indirectly counts as something I'm paying her, but it's not pre-negotiated in advance.

I took mine camping once. Sex by the lake naked in the moonlight. Didn't pay her anything. We did grill out. She said she liked it when I have her the hot dog. The weenies were nice too she said

good thinking pedo. you wouldn't want to be seen with your 11 year old boyfriend.

I've gone on short trips with strippers and with sugar babies. But Subra is right. It has to be something that the girl wants to do. And you need to think about " do I want to be around this person all the time " If you are at the club togethr for a couple of hours is one thing. Being around each other non stop for a couple of days is totally different. So make sure you are compatible .

^Right! He said long term ATF, so I assume you've already done overnights and didn't hate each other in the morning, which is the first test

If you want to take someone on a vacation. Take them on a short weekend trip first to make sure you can actually get along and feel comfortable

Paying a hooker to go with you and paying her per day doesn't sound worth it though

I’ve gone on a couple vacations with my ATF. We’ve known each other for over a decade. I take care of all the trip expenses and she makes sure we both have fun and gets a free vacation.

@scrub: “ i took one stripper to cabo - it was a disaster.”

…sounds entertaining! details, please?

This is more typical in sugar dating. I've taken SB's on short and long trips several times. Most went well, a few were catastrophic failures.

It's important to set expectations before you agree to going:
1. Does she want to go to the desired location?
2. Does she want to go to the desired location WITH YOU?
3. Does she expect you to pay for everything - travel, hotel, food, entertainment, gifts?
4. Does she expect you to compensate her for her time (In sugar dating, this is about how much allowance she will get for her time)
5. Do you expect to get sex on demand, on occasion, or only if she wants it?
6. Do you expect her to share a room with you? Or will you pay for a separate room?
7. Will she need some scheduled time away from you each day?
8. What will you do if she wants to leave early?
9. What will you do if YOU want her to leave early?
10. Can you or can she invite local other women to the party? Do you need to compensate that additional woman?

The more clarity you have about these and anything else you deem important, the better you can predict if it's worth the risk.

And as others have already said, start with a SHORT trip - max 2 nights.

I've taken SB's on overnights to Wine Country, one-week trips to Vegas, and monthlong trips outside the US.

But I've never considered trying with an ATF stripper, unless we had already evolved into a sugar arrangement.

OTC with a stripper is more like hiring a hooker than sugar dating. And as the saying goes: you don't pay a hooker for sex, you pay her to leave after sex.

good stuff herbt.

In my world what OP is proposing is normal. I wouldn’t go on a trip for free, I’m missing out on making money at work (that i need, to live) and it wouldn’t be a vacation to me. I also wouldn’t go if we didn’t get separate rooms to have space from each other when needed.

Why don’t you have this convo with her?

No I haven’t. It’s just too much to try to orchestrate and pay for. They might not be down to sleep in the car with me or shower at the YMCA.


You really gotta be good with this girl though otherwise it might get awkward at times. I rmemerber reading once on the sugar baby Reddit forum one thing the girls do to break up the awkward pause is just start giving the SD a BJ. I need to find me a girl like that.

"But I've never considered trying with an ATF stripper, unless we had already evolved into a sugar arrangement. "

This is a good point. I've never taken a random CF on vacation. Every stripper I've taken on any sort of vacation, we'd progressed to something more sugar-like, or outright sugar.

I thought about it. I do have world wide air travel benefits but rejected the idea. Why take sand to the beach?

I've taken strippers on trips. I've never paid them for their to come or gifted them anything substantial. I'm sure I bought a little trinket or souvenir type thing but nothing I'd call taking them shopping . I do obviously pay for everything else. Most of the trips have been short weekend getaways in-state, down to Islamorada or Key West for a long weekend, or over to Naples/Marco Island or Siesta Key or something. 3-4 hours by car. There were only two instances where it involved flights.

It's always been girls that have stayed overnight or over a weekend at my house first. So we're comfortable being around each other. I'd say most of them came up while we were already OTC and were pretty casual. I've never had any issues in doing it, the girls have always been happy and looking to repeat, some of them have.

All of my gals just whether stripper or off SA just liked meet for sessions. Good enough for me.

Jerry took his on a cruise had to gift her $5000. Not for me.

I have taken 2 ATF on week long vacations multiple times separately. We mainly go to Vegas during the World Series of Poker. I play in tournaments & they laugh around the pool until my sessions are done. We then eat out, go to shows & relax until I am scheduled to play again. They make sure I am relaxed and ready to play poker.
I pay travel, hotel, food, shows & some shopping for those outfits they need to wear when they watch me play.
Depending on if I make the money or not, they share some of the winnings for casino play.

Yes.

For one, the OP has stated “she’s a long time ATF” so it’s safe to “assume” he’s done OTC with her multiple if not many times; but the OP did not specifically state he’s done OTC w/ her so there’s an outside chance he hasn’t which kinda changes the dynamics.

I’m not much of an OTCer and have never taken a girl on vacation – but I lean more towards what @PSD posted; I would think the girl would expect some kinda payment – it’s kinda an unwritten rule that “strippers don’t do anything for free” – although not apples to apples; the non-payment vacation thing would be like taking her to a fancy dinner then expecting to bang her afterwards for no-payment b/c you took her to a fancy-restaurant.

Again – I’m not an OTC expert – but I would think a certain amount of payment would be in order for her time – for example if one spending 5 days on vacation w/ her; then perhaps one does not need to pay her the equivalent of 5 OTC meet-ups; but a “gratuity” for her time I don’t see it being out order (perhaps 50% of what those OTCs would have cost you; just thinking out-loud here).

As has been said – it depends on whether she wants to go vs her going b/c you want her to – analogous to many dancers that agree to dinner w/ a PL then the PL thinking “well I spent a lot on a nice dinner so that should be enough for her”; where in reality most dancers agree to a dinner w/ a PL b/c there is payment involved not b/c of the dinner itself (with some *exceptions*).

There are some guys on here that are very good at getting their way w/ strippers; but I have my doubts about not giving them any $$$ on to go on vacation w/ them – some PLs can get away w/ that ; but IMO most don’t but likely don’t wanna admit to paying for a vacation and giving her $$$ also – just my 2-cents.

It may depend on how you phrase it:

a) hey I’m gonna be in XYZ for a few days; would you like to come along – I’ll take care of the flight and hotel and dinners; etc

or

b) hey I’m going on vacation and I’d like you to come/be with me

^ the former kinda implies that she would come b/c she wants to (she would also like to take that vacation) – the latter kinda implies she’ll be there b/c you want her to be and thus the latter (b) may imply payment in her mind.

It seems kinda uncomfortable for you to say “hey I hope you don’t plan on charging me for your time” – so if you’re not sure then IMO assume you have to pay her; or get that squared away before making plans and tell her you will be spending a lot of $$$ on the vacation for both of you and it’s up to her whether she’d like to come along just to enjoy the vacation vs expecting to get paid.

As a one last comment - perhaps if you spend a good amount on gifts for her on vacation (vs a trinket or a hat or w/e) then perhaps that would be enough in-lieu of actual cash payment.

i'm with shadow. just the sand.
no use for them outside of paid-to-obey itc/otc settings.