Best Livable Spot in the US for regular clubbing...
RandomName111
Mostly NC, DC, Baltimore, Philly.
I'm thinking about moving in the next few months and while I've been to clubs in 48 states, most of those were before the pandemic which has changed a lot of areas entirely. Legends like Follies in Atlanta have closed, Texas's stupid 21+ laws destroyed markets like El Paso (not that I wanted to live there), and so on.
Since I'm not traveling much these days I wanted to ask the hive mind - if you could live anywhere in the US but you wanted a healthy club scene (with extras) which market would you pick and why? The cost of living is not a consideration.
Example: Right now Tampa is top of my list due to the sheer number and variety of clubs, and options for entertainment. Excellent beaches and all pretty cheap (to me). People are weird and wonderful. Great weather almost all year round.
I figured this might be an entertaining thread, which I'm sure we'll all need after the economic numbers post later this week.
Since I'm not traveling much these days I wanted to ask the hive mind - if you could live anywhere in the US but you wanted a healthy club scene (with extras) which market would you pick and why? The cost of living is not a consideration.
Example: Right now Tampa is top of my list due to the sheer number and variety of clubs, and options for entertainment. Excellent beaches and all pretty cheap (to me). People are weird and wonderful. Great weather almost all year round.
I figured this might be an entertaining thread, which I'm sure we'll all need after the economic numbers post later this week.
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Or very close to the San Diego border crossing.
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For strip clubs, I love the Philadelphia area. *Lots* of different options (with and without extras), especially if you're willing to drive a little to neighboring towns/states.
Atlanta, as you said, has lost Follies. I have been to many of the clubs there over the past 20+ years, but outside of a couple of clubs currently vying to be the Follies replacement (where extras may be available), most of the clubs are fairly low mileage. Atlanta's a great city, though. I have been there many, many times.
I was in Pittsburgh once a few years ago (just pre-Covid) and thought the SC options there were few in number and not especially exciting (very limited extras).
As you mentioned, Tampa seems like a good option.
If money is no obstacle go LA area.
The Tampa and surrounding areas have good SC scenes and a fair-amount of extras – plus mostly warm-weather.
South-Florida/Miami area has a ton of clubs and extras are almost as common as suntan-lotion – drawbacks are it’s mostly non-English-speaking Cuban-dancers (not many American girls) – traffic is pretty-bad – lots of people moving to SoFlo and rents/housing has gone up although it’s always been fairly-high – you don’t have to live in Miami; could live in Palm Beach county and just drive to the clubs in Broward and Miami-Dade counties – South FL is a fun place to live if one is active and likes to do things and socialize/party; but o/w the quality of life IMO is not that good.
IDK too-much about the Philly SC scene and if it’s worth living there just for the SC scene – not to mention the high-crime these days plus the brutal-winters – IDK if Philly is necessarily a SC destination city but you’re in the heart of the northeast and have NJ not that far away for additional SC options (if one is willing to make the trek every now and then).
Detroit has a good SC scene (mainly the suburbs of Detroit these days after the city clamped down on the city-proper clubs) – but IDK about living there especially winter.
Texas has a decent SC-scene (Dallas, Houston, Austin) although it’s not that extras-heavy.
Phoenix also has a decent scene although the summers can be brutal.
There is also Los Angeles but you would have to wanna live there and be able to afford it.
It’s hard to be able to recommend to someone else where they will be happy living and which clubs they will actually enjoy – the best thing would be for you to do some trips and scout clubs for yourself to see if you like the club scene and would like living there – if you had the flexibility, you could also try living in different places with good clubs for a few months and then decide where to settle down – Tampa seems like a good area but hard to say if it would be the best area.
Palm Beach County is closed, we don't need no more of those damn yankees comin i here and messing up our way of life
@skibum the only hills we actually have, are on the golf course, but they're only around the water hazards, to keep the alligators off the greens.
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South Florida is nice and I've spent ample time there (really the entire east coast of FL) over the past 20-30 years, but I think for Florida Tampa is my pick. Less traffic, lower prices, lots of growth opportunities for businesses, it's got solid transit options (for Florida), a lot of great restaurants, and entertainment options that are all easily accessible.
TJ is fun, but I definitely wouldn't want to live there. San Diego isn't a terrible option someone mentioned above, or somewhere between there and LA.
@EastCoaster - that is great to hear about Philly! I've considered somewhere on the outskirts or up towards the mountains, but most of the dancers I knew there all transitioned to OF during the pandemic and haven't come back.
@Papi_Chulo - Stellar response. Phoenix is definitely too hot for me in the summer. San Antonio and Austin would be on my list, but long term the state seems pretty anti-SW so I worry about all the Texas destinations, and I'd only really consider hill country anyway (which I've spent lots of time in). Detroit (or about an hour outside of it) is actually something I've considered... a house along the water north of the city wouldn't be terrible and gives me easy access to Toronto, one of my fav cities. The countryside is genuinely beautiful there although winters are no joke. It's definitely hard to find all three... figured this thread might surface some unexpected delights, like a cute little mountain town in WV with 4 seedy clubs, great restaurants, and stellar views.
@desertscrub - I actually never thought about PR, and shockingly have never been. There are also some significant tax advantages to being there, but it didn't seem like a place with a healthy SC scene (or any kind of debauchery really). Will look into that more.
@Lockjaw - Definitely not just for it. I figured this thread might unearth some hidden gems though. Everyone knows about South Florida and Detroit, but I'm sure there are other areas that are awesome to live in that also have healthy club scenes. I tend to find a lot more general debauchery in areas where extras clubs are tolerated - which I like, whether that's swingers clubs, party culture, etc.
Otherwise, maybe try San Jose. I hear there's some great organization out there.
Anyway, I keep telling everyone if I was retired and wanted easy access to strip clubs and an international airport all within an hour drive, Casa grande, AZ. Situated between two clubbing metropolitan areas with excellent restaurants and affordability, with near perfect weather 8 months/year. The hot months are ideal for traveling out of town a few hours to mountains/coast and always a pool close by. I do like Tucson clubs. Their vibe is slower and still fun. TJ, Vegas, and LA can all be thrown in the mix for variety. Culture is low, but do that when you travel.
@Papi_Chulo - I have actually considered that, or a Philly/Tampa split since I can get a sleeper car on a train and bounce between them easily (less hassle than flying and I actually enjoy the journey).
@Mark94 - I am, part of why I'm going to move soon, rent and make sure I dig the vibe, and then will buy the dip to get a property. No substitute for spending time in an area for a few months to make sure you're picking the right location. That's how I ended up where I am now (and I've decided it's not the right location).
The U.S. fucked Mexico by strong arming it into fighting a drug war without sufficient reasources. Wouldn't surprise me if the U.S. callously decides to fuck the clubs in TJ, also for grandstanding reason.
ROBs don't get regulars. So aren't tourist places like Vegas ROB paradises, since dancers don't need regulars there?
Almost any club with good mileage, even if there are no extras; are likely in violation of some law - it's usually a matter of whether the-powers-to-be decide to enforce them or not - any area/city is in danger of the clubs going from good to bad overnight if the powers to be want it so.
That city in Pinellas has come a long way. Sure, it could go the other way but it seems there are more important things to worry about lately.
As for on your list I’d personally take Tampa over Philly or Pittsburgh not even factoring in strip clubs, but that’s just me.