Is there a big difference beween a "John" and a "Simp"?

Beat100
Hey guys,
So slowly I have realized that John's and Pimps are not that different. While Pimps are in their for the money. John's are there for the sex. For instance, I see many John's who go to brothels or stripclubs and will try to pay less or pay the right price to hook up with hookers, strippers. Johns also seem to be unafraid to criticize escorts if they offer poor service. Johns can get together and lower the price of sex, since they refuse to pay high prices this is a noble act on their part, and benefits the average man.

Meanwhile, "Simps" sees to be more of a "white knight" type guy who likes throwing money at women. Simps act this way regardless if a woman gives them sex or not. Often times women will take advantage of Simps and get them to give them money, gifts and travel. In exchange of nothing. Simps ruin the dating market for every guys since women have high expectations. The more guys simp the worst it is for the average man. Since women assume they become the "price." Simps also make it so that women become highly selective of who they sleep with. Since they give them all this free attention.

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nicespice
2 years ago
I am so resentful of the Red Pill propaganda making up all this nonsense about “simps” or “beta males”….where the heck are MY simps ready to kiss my ass at a moments notice? All I get are these useless freaking “hey” messages. Why can’t I have a bunch of dudes come over to do my laundry and vacuum the floor and change my car oil? 😡😡😡
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
A John is a guy who pays hoes for sex

Simp is a misused word. I think a simp is really like a "nice guy" who thinks he can buy women or thinks he's owed sex for acting nice to get it.

But it seems like it's used by broke bums incels and fuckboys to describe anyone who treats a woman they like well. It's idiotic to think that things like buying her dinner or giving her money to get her nails done or taking her shopping is simping. I think it only becomes wiping when he's being used and still goes along with it. But when it's in a normal relationship it's not simping
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
The amount of attention women get on social media and dating apps makes them think there's an army of men willing to do whatever they want and fulfill every instant gratification. Then they act on impulse and wonder why they get hurt.

It's easy to make a connection though. You need that initial spark that let's them stay long enough to form more of a connection. It comes down to how you make her feel. Yhe impression you make on her.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
One thing I really hate js how being toxic is normalized and made out to be something cute. Like we're supposed to crave being dysfunctional. To the point where healthy relationships are portrayed as 😴
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Boring
Jascoi
2 years ago
Shit.
Jascoi
2 years ago
Where the hell am I?????
ilbbaicnl
2 years ago
Some people are doms and some are subs. It's also common the some people are typically doms, and subs with a few people. I've seen this a lot with many dancers, they are heartless and manipulative with PLs, but abused (at least emotionally) and submissive with their SOs. Somewhat strangely, it seems like people can switch off between dom and sub more easily than they can become someone who just looks for mutual respect and consideration. Dom chicks won't easily turn into subs, due to a lack of sub guys. That's why dom chicks use to be subject to stuff like gang rapes and witch burnings.
docsavage
2 years ago
I was a "simp" in college. I had a friend who was much more successful in having sex with girls than I was. I asked him for his secret. He said if he wasn't getting anywhere with a girl he would drop her and move on to another girl. I would get infatuated with a girl and spend months trying to win her over. This was one of the many dumb things I did back when I was young.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
The thing is to leave such an impression that they chase you. And its not just about sex. A girl who gets hooked on you without sex will never forget you. It comes down to your presence. It'll make your absence a void in her life
ilbbaicnl
2 years ago
@doc I think ypu're oversimplifying. Very very few don juans have as much good sex as guys in a steady couple where both are really into each other.

Suppose you could go to a club and get, say, about a 20 minute lap dance, with the added feature that you'd get a happy ending with your fleshlight that you brought with. Dancers, does that still skeev you out, even with no contact with PL junk or bodily fluids? I'm guessing the cost would be in the $100 - $200 range typically. Especially if society had a less ridiculous attitude about "good" women doing any sort of sex work. I think I could have gone for long stretches with this as my only sexual outlet, even when I was young. So no need to end up buying real estate and making mini-mes with somebody, as the only way to have a hope of frequent, good nutting. As long as I'm not sexually frustrated, I don't feel like I'm a simp, nor care who does think I'm a simp. My general point is, it's not women who make simps of us, it's society's stupid, backwards mores.
SanchoRG
2 years ago
A John spends money trying to get into a woman’s pants and succeeds. A simp spends money trying to get into a woman’s pants and fails
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
The Red Pill Manosphere stuff is non-sense.

A guy who thinks he is a Pimp when really he is a Ponce and a John is ridiculous.

SJG
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
You're saying it's easy for women to find men to have sex with. But that means it's easy for those men to have sex as well....

The real problem is men not staying in their league. Or going below it if they really want sex. Don't ever expect physically in a partner that you wouldn't expect in yourself standard wise.

And most women aren't really used to being treated well or having money spent on them. Social media lies.
Dolfan
2 years ago
IMO, a John pays for sex then goes on about his life until he's horny again. A Simp pays for attention then fixates and continues seeking validation and approval.
Mate27
2 years ago
Icee is the definition of a simp, and SJG defines john.
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