Russian has already lost

Sunday, March 13, 2022 4:56 PM
From a strategic standpoint, Russia has already lost. Sanctions will destroy Russia within a few months. Maybe even weeks. More incredibly, they may lose on the battlefield to Ukraine. Thei supply lines can’t get enough fuel, food, and munitions to its troops in the field. It has already committed all its reserves. It’s military has been exposed as poorly equipped and poorly led. [view link]

109 comments

If we wet our pants every time Putin threats to escalate, he's going to reprise this same shit in Georgia and the Baltics. Putin can end this war today if he fucks on back to Russia. This war is much less popular in Russia than state propaganda would have us believe. Peace through strength Слава україні (Slava Ukraini) (Glory to Ukraine) Cлава героям (Slava Heroyam) (Glory to the heroes)
Tetradon
2 years ago
I hope you’re right. Fuck Russia. The next great exodus will be from that giant dumpster fire of a country.
Studme53
2 years ago
Back in the 90s Russia appeared to be reaching for their potential, but the elected Putin to succeed Gorbachev and the ex-KGB officer has pretty much single-handedly turned it into a shithole country. BTW Russia always had delusions of grandeur if we hadn’t entered WWII the Germans were chewing them apart, we saved their butt and they’ve always resented us because of that.
twentyfive
2 years ago
^^^ T H E. U N D E N A I B L E F A C T S: Russian Great Patriotic War (aka The Easter Front in WWII) defeated Nazi Germany 🇩🇪 “The Eastern Front of World War II was a theatre of conflict between the European Axis powers against the Soviet Union (USSR), Poland and other Allies, which encompassed Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Northeast Europe (Baltics), and Southeast Europe (Balkans) from 22 June 1941 to 9 May 1945. It was known as the Great Patriotic War in the Soviet Union and some of its successor states, while everywhere else it was called the Eastern Front. The Eastern Front was decisive in determining the outcome in the European theatre of operations in World War II, eventually serving as the main reason for the defeat of Nazi Germany and the Axis nations.”
CJKent_band
2 years ago
It means 15 years in prison if a Russian reports the truth about the war rather than the party line fabrication. Some are starting to report it anyway, but most Russian do not believe the war even exists. They think the whole story is Western propaganda.
goldmongerATL
2 years ago
It’s 250 miles from the Belarus border to Kyiv. To supply troops outside Kyiv, Russia’s only option is to use the major roads. Their trucks are old and poorly maintained. Bridges have been destroyed by the Ukrainians. Russians need to carry fuel since there are no fuel depots established within Ukraine. They are under constant attack since Russian troops have been unable to secure the corridor. It’s entering the rainy season which will make travel in mud difficult. The poorly trained, poorly equipped, conscript army was told they would be welcomed as hero’s and their mission would be accomplished in a couple days of light fighting. Instead, they are stuck behind enemy lines, constantly under attack, and low on food and other supplies. And, that’s just one of many problems facing the Russians.
mark94
2 years ago
Cacaplop spewing shit out his mouth rather than his ass Peace through strength Слава україні (Slava Ukraini) (Glory to Ukraine) Cлава героям (Slava Heroyam) (Glory to the heroes)
Tetradon
2 years ago
T H E U N D E N I A B L E T R U T H “The US population is generally ignorant, mis-educated, and deliberately lied-to, about international affairs even more than domestic politics. They think of themselves as “America” and say, “we” and “us” when speaking about the national state of which they really know little and have less control.” “It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few...” ~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg ~ Born: 3rd January 2003 , Sweden ~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist
CJKent_band
2 years ago
Fuck Russia and Fuck the Soviet Union. Cretin Stalin starved 4 million Ukrainians to death, forcing their backward communist collectivism. Leftist American press covered it up, even giving a Pulitzer prize to the lying NY Times reporter Walter Durant for praising Stalin and reporting Stalin’s disinformation about starvation in Ukraine. (You think Joseph McCarty was wrong about Soviet infiltration of American institutions lol?) Creep Stalin also stupidly tried to cut a deal with Hitler to allow him to run rampant over Poland and the rest of Europe as long as he left the USSR alone. Hitler stabbed him in the back before the cretin could do it to him first. Russia/USSR as a political state has been an enemy of the free, civilized world for much of it history. It reflects the petty jealous nature and stupidity of its people.
Studme53
2 years ago
No idea what the above post is about, but we have a free press as evidenced by the appalling anti-government deception that is allowed to proliferate on Faux News, with programs that the Russian government-run news media are using to justify the invasion of Ukraine.
wld4tatas
2 years ago
Referring to the post by CJKent_band
wld4tatas
2 years ago
The CAF (Charities Aid Foundation) World Giving Index has ranked Russia among the world’s lowest-scoring countries over 10 years, placing it in 117th position. Surprise!
Studme53
2 years ago
That cold war brainwashing worked I guess. No one cares about the soviet union. It hasn't existed in like 30 years. Russia is engaging in low intensity warfare and zelensky is begging the west to intervene to keep him in power.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
One fatal flaw in all dictatorships is no one is brave enough to give bad news to the dictator. Putin: Are our troops ready ? General : Highly trained and highly motivated. Best in the world. Putin : How’s the equipment ? General : Top notch. Flawless. Putin : Is the plan solid ? General : It’s been developed and reviewed by the best minds. Putin : How will the Ukrainians react ? General : They all love you. They’ll erect statues to you. Putin : How long will it take to conquer Ukraine ? General : Two days tops. Putin : Okay. Make it so .
mark94
2 years ago
I read a story recently about a factory in Russia that was praised in the press for building Russian made tractors. The Mayor/Governor behind this was promoted into a big job. Shortly thereafter, it was discovered that the tractors were actually built in the Czech Republic and imported to Russia for final assembly. That part of the story wasn’t reported in Russia.
mark94
2 years ago
In the end, here’s Russia’s real problem. If they do manage to conquer Ukraine, it is estimated it would take nearly a million troops to maintain order there. That’s how many people Russia has in uniform, total. And, half of those are conscripts serving a one year hitch. Not to mentioned the huge drain those troops would have on Russia economically. Meanwhile, Siberia ( with untold mineral wealth ), once partly controlled by China, would be unprotected.
mark94
2 years ago
The United States certainly did not save Russia during WWII. Sometime between Stalingrad and Kursk the Soviets stop insisting very hard the US enter the war. After Kursk the Soviet Union knew they had it in the bag: with out without the United States entering in western Europe. The Soviets never lost momentum after Kursk and certainly by Normady (which happened around the time of Bagration in the East) it was merely nice that the US land, but not essential.
rdig
2 years ago
^ Well, most of equipment used by the Soviets in WWII, billions and billions, and billions worth, was made in Detroit. So, there’s that.
mark94
2 years ago
What’s as big as a house, burns 20 liters of fuel every hour, puts out a shit-load of smoke and noise, and cuts an apple into three pieces? A Soviet machine made to cut apples into four pieces
Studme53
2 years ago
Zelensky has backed off his insistence on being allowed to join NATO. Ukraine is not going dislodge Russia from Crimea or Donbas anytime soon. You could argue just as well that Putin has already won. Now he just seems to be seeing just much he gain: would like formal recognition of Crimea and Donbas but he could just hold it de facto if that doesn't happen. China and India are big players and we help ease sanctions on him. Militarily his tanks are useless against javelins and his planes nearly so against stinger. It's effectively infantry versus infantry. Can he draw in more troops? Would it require a draft? I don't know the mood in Russia well enough to comment, but if he can draft then his population is three times that of Ukraine so he will win eventually. The media is saying it is a slam dunk and mark94 is parroting it, but I don't think it's over by a long shot.
rdig
2 years ago
@mark94: you do realize "most" means more than 50% right? Sorry but it was nowhere close to that. How many T-34's were made in the US? I'll give you a hint: US tanks sucked by comparison even up to the last days of the war.
rdig
2 years ago
Lol - tanks. Tank warfare was irrelevant when the US had air supremacy. Go ahead a put Tigers in the field and watch what happens when a Mustang or P38 Lightning comes along
Studme53
2 years ago
Or a shittier T34
Studme53
2 years ago
Fact is the tempo of the war changed one the US entered on the side of the British, all of a sudden the western front became problematic, North Africa became a liability then we ran them out of Italy, that’s when the Russians started pushing the Nazis back, because all of a sudden Hitler who was like Putin, thinking he knew more about military strategy than his very competent generals. It’s impossible to know how this all ends but there’s no way a country will be conquered and occupied if there is not a compliant and willing majority, that’s history both recent and ancient. If I were to give Putin some advice I’d tell him to declare victory now and go home, because this is not going to get better and the longer it goes on the more danger that Putin’s regime gets overturned and he ends up like Quadafi or Saddam Hussein.
twentyfive
2 years ago
T H E U N D E N I A B L E R E A L I T Y I S: From the beginning of the USA, there has been always an economic motive underlying all USA made-up conflicts/wars, even if the stated aim of the war is presented to the public as something more noble. The 1%, the Robber Barons in the USA and their criminal accomplices all over the world, are constantly clamming that we are “protecting our strategic interests abroad” to create “conflicts/wars” than ultimately serve to protect the interests of wealthy American Criminals and their accomplices, wealthy puppet regimes all over the world. “It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few.” ~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg
CJKent_band
2 years ago
^ feel free to go somewhere that suits your own delusional ideals, promise no one will lift a finger to slow your exit.
twentyfive
2 years ago
70% of the Russian population have a favorable opinion of Stalin. They’re ignorant and psychologically damaged by communism. Putin wants to be a ‘“strongman” and a “hero” to the ignorant Russian people like Stalin. He needs to be put down like a rabid dog. The saving grace is the apathy of the Russian soldier. Their manta is, “We’ll pretend to fight, and you pretend to pay us.”
Studme53
2 years ago
Hard to maintain apathy when your comrades and commanders are slowly being cut down all around you
SanchoRG
2 years ago
Russia is requesting military assistance from China, this is not going very well for Vladimir Putin
twentyfive
2 years ago
Panama wasn't a real win. It created a power vacuum filled with anti American populism. Countries with govs propped up by the US tend to have the most anti American sentiments.... even ukraine and yhs rise of neonazism there. The neonazis hate the US accusing it of spreading multiculturalism via Hollywood and American pop culture
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Putin will already end up like Saddam Hussein, if he gets captured alive and put on trial for war crimes.
wld4tatas
2 years ago
^ You too, ought to Join CJ Kunt and go someplace where your political delusions are more in line with the official thinking, let me suggest The DPRK or perhaps Iran, I'm sure you'll find many kindred spirits in those regimes.
twentyfive
2 years ago
How should George Bush Obama Trump Biden be handled for war crimes? Should they also end up like Hussein??
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Studme53
2 years ago
Except the mongoloid Russian have nukes missies thanks to the Germans they captured
Studme53
2 years ago
Nuke missiles
Studme53
2 years ago
^ I like nuke missies better 😁
twentyfive
2 years ago
Ok - I’m gonna stop posting
Studme53
2 years ago
Actually no. This is false for multiple reasons. Dream on Rusdophobes.
Dave_Anderson
2 years ago
This was disproven several days ago. You're still listening to US and "western" media propaganda?
Dave_Anderson
2 years ago
Russophobic bigots keep dreaming. 🤣🤣🤣
Dave_Anderson
2 years ago
^ Says the guy who loves Alex Jones and likes his own posts. Russia is desperate.
Tetradon
2 years ago
Lol mongoloid?? Lmao. That's retarded bs. But rly shame on Putin for this and for the idiot Russians still in that country who wont go against this.
blahblahblah23
2 years ago
You loud mouth Boomer Russophobes think you're a majority in the US but polling data show around half the US population want the US to stay out of or are indifferent to this conflict DESPITE the constant media propaganda demonizing Russia and promoting this US provoked war. Compare that to the 92% who supported the US war in Afganistan just after 9/11 and the roughly 70% who supported the two Iraq wars at the start. So this is your high point of support from even the normally stupid American sheep? Imagine as gas prices and fertilizer shortages get worse because of the US regime's choice to put sanctions on Russia. The public does not overehelmingly agree with this now, imagine as this drags on how support for these hawkish anti-Russia positions will further erode.
Dave_Anderson
2 years ago
News report yesterday was Russian troops are 10 miles from Kiev city center. Assuming Russian superiority in troop and equipment quantities, and even assuming not superior soldiers to Ukrainians (I have no info or opinion on that topic), and absent any cease fire, Russians seem destined to take Kiev. Holding Kiev and rest of conquered areas is another matter, and I'd think Ukrainians will wage guerrilla war for eternity until Russia withdraws entirely.
DeclineToState
2 years ago
Some “experts” think it’s unlikely Russian troops will enter Kyiv. The Ukrainians have put up barricades, dug trenches, and made it a hostile environment. They’ll just set up outside the city and pound the shit out of it.
mark94
2 years ago
@twentyfive The statement, in a variety of forms; “If you don’t like America, then leave!” Has been passed down to generation after generation of egotistical, racist hate groups considered right-wing extremist and terrorist. It’s something they enjoy saying as much as they enjoy saying the N-word and other racist/ethnic slurs... It gives them a feeling of power, as if they immediate draw all of the power of the person they are attacking and become powerful due to it.  This feeling is short-lived as it is only a state of mind, everyone knows that people that do this are only doing it because they feel insecure and lack confidence often in their own intellect...
CJKent_band
2 years ago
“To suggest that an American hates America just because as a citizen criticizes all the terrible genocides and crimes that America has committed, and does continue to commit, since the beginning of its existence is nonsense. The bigger problem are people who think that America is untouchable and that it should not be criticized My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. The whole idea of "hating America" is, frankly, a stupid notion used by those who can't stand criticism. You’re not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter what, when where or who does it or who says it”
CJKent_band
2 years ago
Cheerleading a war is sick. Zelensky needs to go and there will be peace.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
@CJKunt You’re pitiful my comment to you has nothing to do with racism you are just a fuck yard malcontent, that bashes America and Americans every chance you can Iceefag too, neither of you have ever lifted a finger to make this country better but you side with our enemies every chance you get. Go ahead and move to Russia you are a worthless coward
twentyfive
2 years ago
@twentyfive THE UNDENIABLE REALITY IS THAT: “war is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit from war expenditures” “The America of wealth and privilege is hooked on war, without regular and ever-stronger doses of war it can no longer function properly, that is, yield the desired profits.” “The nature of American created wars is that huge corporations and the 1% of the world benefit and the people suffer in America and the world...” “It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few...” ~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg ~ Born: 3rd January 2003 , Sweden ~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist
CJKent_band
2 years ago
^ So tell that to the person who chose to prosecute this needless war, Vladimir Putin Even better do it in Moscow !
twentyfive
2 years ago
@twentyfive Everyone in the world knows the USA military–industrial complex is the main beneficiary of the modern imperialism manufactured wars. And profiteers on both sides of the war line their own pockets at their countries’ expense. It is undeniable that the USA. is the most powerful state on earth today, but few Americans think through what this implies. For one thing, it means murderous military intervention in the affairs of other countries. “It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few...” ~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg ~ Born: 3rd January 2003 , Sweden ~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist
CJKent_band
2 years ago
Ukraine is Paying the Price for the U.S. Pushing NATO Expansion to create the conflict with Russia. A prime example of intervention in the affairs of other countries, with the pretext of promoting “democracy”, but in reality trying to profit from the country’s resources. All USA manufactured wars are caused by USA wealthy rulers and their military-industrial complex desire to take control of another country's wealth. There is almost always an economic motive underlying most conflicts, even if the stated aim of the war is presented to the public as something more noble.
CJKent_band
2 years ago
I saw a corruption index. Russia was ranked as the most corrupt country in Europe and the Ukraine was ranked as the second most corrupt country in Europe. There really isn't much difference between the two. This isn't good guy versus bad guy. It's bad guy versus bad guy. There is really little reason for the U.S. to become involved here. I think this is being focused on by the liberal media to distract people from the failure of Biden's Covid response, his failure to stop inflation, his failure to stop crime, his failure to control the border, his failure to stop supply chain disruptions, his bungled Afghanistan withdrawal and so on. Biden is such a bad president it wouldn't surprise me if he stumbles his way into World War III here.
docsavage
2 years ago
Venable believes the best way to avoid a military conflict is to keep applying pressure on Russia to pull its forces out of Ukraine, arguing that Russia losing the war could actually cause them to escalate the situation further. "If Putin continues to get boxed in through sanctions, trading and banking stoppages -- and he starts losing the war, that may be reason enough for him to employ tactical nuclear weapons," Venable told Fox News Digital. "The West needs to continue to apply pressure, attempt to broker a settlement/cease-fire while continuing to offer off-ramps that deescalate the potential" for a conflict between NATO and Russia.
gammanu95
2 years ago
^ “Doc” Savage, did the same tap-dancing blue jay that spends most of his time explaining shit to Mr. Anderson explain that to you? If he wears a monocle 🧐 and orders pizza 🍕 on your credit card it’s the same bird that spends its time chatting with Mr. Anderson about Russophobia. Don’t listen to that bird. Seek help for a qualified psychiatrist. You’re welcome!
DoctorPhil.
2 years ago
The Ukrainian people have embraced democracy not dictatorship, so attributing current events to US meddling is just more Russian propaganda. Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia.
wld4tatas
2 years ago
“NATO expansion was premature at best and needlessly provocative at worst” ~ William J. Burns ~ Director of the Central Intelligence Agency ~ warning about the provocative effect of NATO expansion on Russia since 1995. “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.” ~ In 2008, Burns, then the American ambassador to Moscow, wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
CJKent_band
2 years ago
"Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia." The Russian speaking parts of Ukraine don't want to be part of Ukraine but Ukraine is forcibly attempting to stop them from leaving. According to the Ukrainians, they can secede from Russia but no one can secede from them.
docsavage
2 years ago
Current events are due to US meddling. You really believe zelensky would have gone to war instead bof negotiating without biden arming ukraine and sending billions of dollars and threatening Russia. His mistake is he believed the US would keep him in power militarily not just with all that support
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Yes eastern europe is corrupt, nothing is new here. I wouldnt say this is bad guy v bad guy. Ukraine is clearly the victim here with Russia the aggressor. [view link] What a bunch of degenerates
blahblahblah23
2 years ago
WW2 was won largely by Russia... Hate to say it, but they took massive losses and just kept taking them to march themselves into Berlin, while Americans, British, French all just kinda stopped stood by after liberating France. The Russian losses were certainly decreases by splitting the German army between fronts and strategic bombing. We'll certainly never know if the Russians would've been able to march in Berlin without that. But, they were the ones that took Berlin. It is also been theorized that Japan only surrendered after Russian declared war on them. Two Atomic bombs and they were ready to keep fighting until that according to some historians. A big factor in that was the US, Britain, France, everyone else cared how many people they killed. Russians didn't. But this was all when "Russia" was the Soviet Union, and included Ukraine (and Georgia, etc...). And now, it's just Russia vs. Ukraine. Present day, nobody's winning. Nato expanded East not because Nato wanted shit, but because Poland, etc. wanted NATO. If Putin wasn't an asshole and Russia behaved like a modern European democracy, Poland, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, many of these former Eastern block countries that didn't want shit to do with the Soviet Union joined (or are asking to join) NATO to keep Putin the fuck out. Apparently being ruled by these assholes is pretty miserable and they're determined to not let that happen again. Fuck knows what Putin thought he'd get out of this. It's unimaginable that he'd expected to pay this much for it when he started. And doubtful he'll get whatever it was he wanted anyways. And Ukraine, they just want Russia to leave them the fuck alone, and now have then of thousands dead, maybe hundreds of thousands before it's over, and millions leaving their homes. You really can't kill enough Russian conscripts to make up for that... Sure, Russia has some support in the East, there's always a few that are just too stupid to realize their just fucking themselves in the ass supporting someone who hates them, like the gay republicans... But they're just loud and stupid or being paid off (or just trolling with shit they don't even believe) and the media is stuck on this journalist idea that they have to present "both sides" to have even coverage and really don't have the resources to fully understand how over representing they are of a handful of jackasses. And the "media"... It's interesting how when CNN, BBC, Deutsche Welle, AP, AFP, Reuters and Al Jazeera all tell about the same general story and a bunch of wack job conspiracy nuts will just on some internet site and try and convince people it all a lie?
bkkruined
2 years ago
“truth is the first casualty in war”; and never was a greater untruth spoken than that war is waged for the protection of women, children and homes...
CJKent_band
2 years ago
^ Just curious cj, would the pinnacle of your dick pic collection be scoring dick pics of Putin?
TheeOSU
2 years ago
They're definitely struggling more than anyone (including the Russians) expected, but they have not lost. If they want to take over the entire country, they'll pull it off eventually. Holding on to it, though, will be the long-term challenge. What they have done is fully justify the existence of NATO for at least the next 25 years.
Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
Again @CMI with the most rational and thought out comment on the thread. Russia is desperate, bombing maternity hospitals and mining refugee departure paths. Those aren't confident actions. Now begging China's support. Why would Xi want to embroil himself in this? It's a distraction from everything they care about. The more Russia is economically damaged, the more subservient they'll have to be to China. This is going to keep getting uglier.
Tetradon
2 years ago
"Americans, British, French all just kinda stopped stood by after liberating France" could not be more wrong. Also, any historians who say that the Japs surrendered because the Soviets declared war on them is wrong. Anyone who refers to the Soviets as Russians should not comment on history. Go find a Thai ladyboy to suck off and let the adults talk. I am surprised at the incredibly poor performance of Putin's military. His forces fucked up a lot of the Chechen battles, but seemed much more competent during the action against Georgia. Prior to the invasion of Ukraine, it seemed the general consensus was that Putin had a created a modern, well-trained, and well-equipped army. The repeated failures and slow process against Ukraine has dispelled that notion. If Putin's government cannot even handle the nuts and bolts of infantry logistics, air superiority, tanks and other mechanized units; then maybe his strategic forces are equally laughable. Maybe his analysts were so afraid of giving honest critiques and feedback, that his hypersonic missiles and standby autonomous nuclear torpedoes are not actually ready to be deployed anymore than ours are. (China's are ready, that has been demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt.) Regardless, Ukraine will lose in a battle of attrition, and Putin might not lose an extended occupation. So many Ukrainians are leaving, they may not care about leaving a failed post-Soviet state like Ukraine. If the refugee host nations put them up well enough, they may settle in and decide they like it there.
gammanu95
2 years ago
[view link] Estonia needs to STFU. They are next on Putin's shit list, maybe just after Finland. Although they produce some sexy women in the Baltics, I don't want to be dragged into a NATO-Russia war for them.
gammanu95
2 years ago
China and Russia may not be the coziest kittens in the litter, but they do have an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing going on. Also, China has massive energy needs for industry and Russia has large energy supply that could find a home in China. It's obviously more complicated than that, but if Russia finds itself backed into a corner then Putin will swallow a bitter pill or three to form a closer partnership with China. No idea what that will look like, but it won't be great. It's possible that some Ukrainians will find happier homes outside of Ukraine, but I don't believe that will neuter a long-term insurgency. I know folks in business as well as former military who have commented that Ukrainians are generally very patriotic about being Ukrainian. Also, a lot of those 14 to 17 year-old refugees will reach fighting age sooner rather than later, and they're the ones who may be the most fervent about fighting for their homeland. And, yes, I do believe it could go on for that long.
Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
Ukraine isn't Afghanistan or Iraq. A lot of people will be happier without zelensky and after russia helps with rebuilding things will quiet down.
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
And now they're launching missiles at cities on in Western edges of Ukraine. If / when they start bombing with aircraft it's not going to take much for the Polish to decide to take a shot at them, whether they actually cross into Poland or just come close enough. And then we'll see how well defending every inch of NATO territory stands up to Putin's provocations. But really, while Americans would take one of our planes being shot down so seriously, Turkey shot one down over Syria and Russia is still selling them surface to air missiles...
bkkruined
2 years ago
The Chinese stock, bond, and housing market is in the process of collapsing. There are lots of reasons but the most recent trigger is fear that China will be perceived as helping Russia in Ukraine. If that happens, and similar sanctions were imposed on China, it would destroy China like it is already destroying Russia. If China is smart, and they are, they will do nothing to support Russia in Ukraine.
mark94
2 years ago
The allies stopped after invading France? Assuming the North African campaign and march through Italy are ignored. The Russians signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazis, and they divided Poland between them. The fact the Russians lost 20 million people as a result of such actions proves 2 things: Karma is a bitch, and the price seems just. Russians reaped what they sowed. Fuck them and anyone who supports them. They make robotic, emotionless strippers as well.
skibum609
2 years ago
One of the most amazing things in human history was the Soviets ability to seemingly bring troops out of nowhere to turn around Wehrmacht in ‘43. Battle of Kursk alone (the bloodiest battle in world history) almost 1 million Soviet casualties. I can’t see Russia just folding after two weeks and reported what about few thousand troops KIA. They got some more in tank. Ukraine is fighting for their lives and country with an advanced military and 40 million people this was never going to be easy for anyone.
Muddy
2 years ago
The world is different from 1943 in 2 important ways. 1. Videos of the war are available to the world instantly 2. The economy is global. A country cannot survive if they are cut off from world trade and finance. Stalin could simply cut his people off from the world and lie about everything. Putin doesn’t have that option.
mark94
2 years ago
The Soviets were able to turn the Germans around in WW2 to save themselves from being ruled by a foreign power. Those kinda losses weren't just accepted when they invaded Afghanistan. In Ukraine, shit's backward. Ukrainians are the ones fighting for their freedom. Putin might keep sending Russians in like he's fighting the the Nazi's, Ukraine's gonna keep killing them like they are the Nazis. It's going to be ugly on both sides. But I doubt Ukrainians are ever going to give up, they can't just go home like the Russians... They were part of the Soviet Union 30 years ago and know better than any of us what happens when they quit fighting.
bkkruined
2 years ago
Russia IA engaging in low intensity warfare. Much like the Israelis. It's not about American style shock and awe and carpet bombing
Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
^ Go away, Cacaplop. Better get at least a D on your math quiz or daddy's going to spank you again.
Tetradon
2 years ago
I think Russia is having problems here. But this was is still gross. The sooner Russia pulls out the better. Newshour [view link] SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
^Tell Putin to pull out before he blows his wad.
CandymanOfProvidence
2 years ago
PBS NewsHour live episode, March 15, 2022 [view link] Russia Deploys a Mystery Munition in Ukraine [view link] SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
U.S. Department of State Press Briefing, Ned Price, 3 hours ago [view link] SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
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san_jose_guy
2 years ago
DOWN goes Mark!
crazyjoe
2 years ago
The shitter is loosing
crazyjoe
2 years ago
The weakness of the Soviets/Russian armed forces has always been logistics, specifically caused by their relatively uneducated conscripted lower ranks. Unlike the US military, real maintenance has to be accomplished by officers because those reporting to them simply do not have the necessary skills. In this environment, gundecking of readiness reports is endemic, and Ivan is definitely paying the price now.
ATACdawg
2 years ago
Update. It’s all about logistics. Interesting video of Russian equipment. [view link]
mark94
2 years ago
Russia sending corpses through Belarus to hide the true death toll. [view link]
Tetradon
2 years ago
^ Cacaplop raising money for Ukraine when he's not failing remedial math. [view link]
Tetradon
2 years ago
^ I could get hit on the head all day and all night, drink a fifth of vodka, and still have 50 IQ points on you.
Tetradon
2 years ago
Russia has lost nearly 10,000 [view link]
Tetradon
2 years ago
That 10,000 seems to be not only conservative, but dated information, and only counting the dead. Col. Yury Medvedev has been confirmed to have been injured by what seems to be very legit sources. But, Ukraine's propaganda machine is claiming to have intercepted communication between Russian forces where, apparently one of his junior officers claims to have intentionally run him the fuck over with his own tank for getting all his buddies killed. [view link] So, ya, 10,000, not counting the wounded, which I'm just gonna assume aren't back in a shiny white hospital in Moscow via airlift in less than a day. Probably freezing in a tent until fuck knows when... Many are claiming there are staggering number of reports of frostbite (maybe even just faked or intentional, hoping it'll get them sent home?). And the captured. And last, and certainly not the least, deserters!!!! Media is now starting to claim they've heard of special Russian troops being sent in to hunt down deserters. As much of this might just be propaganda... But, US and UK intelligence pretty much told us all about Russia's plans before they started. The only thing they seemed to have gotten wrong was understanding the Russians inability to move troops more effectively than boy scouts and the Ukrainians willingness and ability to kill them. The seem to not only know exactly what's going on, but have been remarkably open with much of it...
bkkruined
2 years ago
Newshour, Ukraine [view link] SJG new Acura NSX [view link] John J. Mearsheimer [view link]
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Pope implicitly criticises Putin on invasion, considers Kyiv trip [view link] SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
^^ He better bring the Popemobile
misterorange
2 years ago
I think that was just his predecessor two back that used that. :) :) :) SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Ukraine war update: How is Russia doing & what does Ukraine need? | DW News [view link] SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Russian Military Operations in Ukraine Update: Battle of Donbas "Begins" Says Pentagon [view link] SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Ukraine warns that Russia aims to expand war beyond its borders | DW News [view link] SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Newshour [view link] SJG Nirvana Reading 1992 [view link]
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Germany is supplying tanks to Ukraine. And that means Leopard II's. Original design was same weight as a Panther to 4 significant digits. Today they have a large gun and a lot of other stuff, so they are heavier. [view link] 1500 hp twin turbo V12 diesel. SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Why Russia is INCAPABLE of Air Superiority in Ukraine [view link] Why the Russian Army BMP Vehicle is Worse than You Think [view link] SJG Gimme Shelter [Rolling Stones Cover] - Britny Lobas at The Roost Austin, Tx [view link]
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
PBS NewsHour live episode, April 27, 2022 [view link] SJG Gimme Shelter [Rolling Stones Cover] - Britny Lobas at The Roost Austin, Tx [view link]
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
'Aggression will not win,' Biden tells Russia as he announces new military aid, sanctions [view link] April 8 "Who is winning?" - Mythbusting the Ukraine-Russia war [view link] 2 days ago Ukraine: A proxy war? • FRANCE 24 English (this news source is always quite good) [view link] SJG The Pretty Reckless - Take Me Down (Official Music Video) [view link] The School of Rock plays Gimme Shelter with Special guest star Orianthi [view link]
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
PBS News Hour [view link] SJG School of Rock All Girl Band performs Uptown Funk [view link]
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
Newshour today, Ukraine War [view link] Also an interesting look at Fox News's Tucker Carlson SJG
san_jose_guy
2 years ago
^ Сан-Хосе ползучести San-Khose polzuchesti lulz
TheeOSU
2 years ago
Trump! Trump! Trump!
48-Cowboy
2 years ago
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