Why do PUA coaches and Manosphere Gurus bash each other so much?

It's about money. They all want losers buying their courses and not the other guys.



All of them say the same thing. Keep begging for sexbtil someone says yes.

The thing they all miss is that the key to getting laid is for her to be attracted to you physically and the way you make her feel when she's with you. When women think of you. They don't think of what you said or anything. They think of how they feel when they're with you

Because they're all in competition to scam money off of lonely guys before the lonely guys realize it's a scam. Also, they're not interested in education or their "student's" welfare.

Basically what you're asking is why is malignancy malignant? I think a non-malignant PUA would have to accept that, no matter what you look like, a minority of women you can politely get into a a conversation with will be seriously interested in hooking up, with you based on how attractive they find you. You'd have to be willing to put in a lot of effort and be satisfied with only occasional success. It seems like PUAs recommend you improve you chances with strategies that are rude and manipulative. Is it ever an issue with them, whether or not you leave women you hook up with with good memories of you?

I know people that world. Short answer, they crave external validation like junkies crave H. Why? It’s some combination of:
1. Like some posters here, their tiny penises
2. Growing up without, or with an emotionally distant or disapproving father
3. Like other posters here, they can’t hold a respectable job, and think that’s because their boss (i.e. the manager at the gas station) is “intimidated” by their intellect or charisma
4. They have the “scarcity mentality” they claim impoverishes people, and don’t know how to celebrate another’s success
5. Like yet more posters here, they have delusions that the world will one day bow before their genius. Their “information products” are more like Ted Kaczynski’s manifestos

But you know what else, Beat? These gurus that tear each other apart are the honest ones. It’s the gurus that jack each other off that you have to be concerned about. It’s like a solo cat burglar vs. the Lufthansa heist. That's the real scheme, and it works like this:
A. One guy will fleece you by claiming he can get you laid at will.
B. And he’ll refer you to the next guy, who will fleece you by claiming he can get you a “laptop lifestyle” making six figures from the beach in Croatia.
C. And he’ll refer you to the next guy, who will claim he can make you a hand-to-hand combat god in 15 minutes of book study a day.
D. And he’ll refer you to the next guy, who will claim he can make you bench press 300 pounds with one arm.
E. And he’ll refer you to the next guy, who will claim his foolproof crypto trading scheme can make you $10,000 a day with no risk.

See my point? When they form a syndicate, that’s when they’re really out to scam you. Now, secretly, they hate and resent each other too, for reasons of the first list above. But each of them gets a cut of anyone who buys from the next guy, and they lack integrity to call out their fellow thieves.

Anyways, avoid the fuck out of all of them. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.

PS – they're miserable MFs who go years without getting pussy. Do not believe their lies.

People tend to think there is one right way to live or one right way to do things and knock anyone else who doesn't agree with them. You are asking this question about some other guys bashing each other at a website where guys are always bashing each other.

Guys can attract women through physical appearance, money, personality etc. PUA types mostly try to use various forms of psychological manipulation on women. Men are not the only ones to do this. If you think women never try to psychologically manipulate men, then you are pretty naive. The PUA guys all have their own system and are competing with each for followers.

Engaging in psychological manipulation is morally questionable and I wouldn't do it, but there are certain situations where it can work. This is usually with young inexperienced women. The older and more experienced women get, the less well it will work so those tactics are less useful for older guys trying to get a same age girlfriend or sex partner. The advocates of this, though, tend to ignore the importance of other things like looks, personality, and money. These guys didn't exist when I was young and I think they became popular partly because the welfare state started to replace men as economic providers. This meant guys had to focus more on other ways to attract women. Every guy has to make his own choice here on what ways to use. When I was young I never wanted to pick up multiple women for sex, never wanted to manipulate women, and just wanted a long term relationship with a girlfriend so this sort of thing wouldn't have appealed to me if these guys had been around back in my younger days. My choice now as an old guy is just to visit strip clubs and not have a wife or girlfriend.

In addition to employing some low-rent psychological manipulation, the PUA "gurus" also engage in hiring hot young girls to pretend that they're falling for that guru's methods in staged videos. A lot of these guys are just trying to haul in as much sad-guy cash before they get found out.

While some of these rivalries between PUAs might be legit, it would not surprise me if many of them are also staged to create more buzz around the "warring" PUA factions.

Ultimately, they're a pack of assholes.

Puas make the huge mistake that they think hooking up is about logic. They try to convince women why they should fuck them. That's coercive. And its not how attraction works

And it's just businesses competition that's it

I think that a lot of you guys are misunderstanding pickup artistry or at least the one that is practiced by these guys in that you assume it works, when 90% it has nothing to do with women.

I think 90% of the time the PUAs, their students and the rival coaches spend it with each other. In-Fighting, trying to scam each other for money, stealing products. It's a "rat nest" type of environment.

I always kind of thought that puas were missing the point. It seems to me that talking with other dudes about getting laid is not only time spent not getting laid, but it also doesn’t get you any closer to getting laid.

You sound like Ralphie from the simpsons