Undercover?

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goldmongerATL
The Square Above Charlie Weaver
At a club that shall remain unnamed for web search reasons, there was a guy sitting at the table closest to the VIP hallway entrance. He was in his 30's short hair and solidly built. He was drinking water and not getting dances. From that seat he could see the whole room and was watching everybody else. I had noticed him there while sitting near him.

I took a girl for a 30 minute VIP. the VIP rooms have heavy black curtains. About 15 minutes into our session, the curtain flies open and in walks this guy! He has this stern look and gives us a hard look up and down for a few seconds. At that moment there was absolutely no extras-related activity or exposure. After a few seconds he suddenly acts drunk and excuses himself.

When we left VIP he was sober again sitting at the same table drinking water. He watched both of us as we headed back out into the room.

This club is having police troubles. Really got the cop feel from the situation.

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gammanu95
3 years ago
Why didn't you or the dancer complain to a manager or bouncer, see if you can get the guy removed? I think walking into a VIP room (really drunk or acting drunk) would be enough reason to be sent home, especially if he's not buying drinks or dances.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
I'd not go back there for a while.

Also, that (possible) cop sucks at undercover work.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
Similar to gammanu95, I might have had a chat with management.
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ilbbaicnl
3 years ago
If this is Georgia maybe the cop was just trying to catch you two voting by mail.
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PinkSugarDoll
3 years ago
Lol.

Hey I have been in 2 raids and in my home club we had a 6 month sting.

Cops often wear tactical footwear, with “regular” clothes. Pro tip.
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Warrior15
3 years ago
"tactical footwear " ???
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Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
I assume tge OP is referring to a club that has been recently discussed on TUSCL w.r.t. the the city trying to shut them down including harassing custies.

Reality is not much a club can do when the powers-to-be are hell-bent on shutting them down and most clubs don't survive once the city has their sights on them.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
Warrior said "'tactical footwear' ???"

Think 5.11 or any adjacent brands / styles.
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shadowcat
3 years ago
There has to be more to this story. You said nothing to him when he burst into your room?
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Electronman
3 years ago
And the dancer said nothing? That’s a formula for ruining her source of income.
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twentyfive
3 years ago
I don’t generally do extras in a strip club, I prefer a private space like a motel or someone’s home, if I was in a room with a dancer and that occurred there would undoubtedly be some type of a problem , I certainly wouldn’t be very nice about it.
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PinkSugarDoll
3 years ago
“Tactical footwear” is very googleable.

= the ankle boots that police and military wear.
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ilbbaicnl
3 years ago
What's tactical footwear? Are stripper heels strategic footwear?
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Could have been club security. The girls boyfriend.. could be a lot of things.. Thats really odd behavior for undercover pigs.

Club management didn't do anything? The girl wasn't shocked and didn't warn anyone?
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doctorevil
3 years ago
Wow—where was the VIP bouncer when this happened?
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
It wasn't a cop
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doctorevil
3 years ago
At 15 minute in, huh? That’s usually prime time for my VIPs.
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goldmongerATL
3 years ago
So to answer a couple of questions, at that point, I was not 100% certain he was not staff. We both gave him a WTF look, but she did not say anything. We were both a little caught off guard.

I failed to mention we heard the bouncer loudly arguing with him as soon as he left our room. It got quite heated. At one point I heard the bouncer say something that included "you have five seconds!" Then it died down. No one including the bouncer came back to our room. I think the bouncer was going to let me have as much time as I wanted and we did run a bit over. When we left the bouncer was nowhere to be seen. I was surprised to see the guy was still there.
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Muddy
3 years ago
Sounds more like a drunk lunatic to me, it’s a common enough sight in a strip club to not write it off.
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wld4tatas
3 years ago
They should have thrown this guy out.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Sounds like it was club security since the dancer didn't freak out wqrn anyone staff didn't do anything and business went on as usual
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ilbbaicnl
3 years ago
I never noticed cop footwear. Does PSD have a cop foot fetish?
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doctorevil
3 years ago
Doesn’t sound like club security at all. Jealous boyfriend maybe?
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goldmongerATL
3 years ago
I will add as far as I know we were the only couple in VIP. The DJ had announced all rooms were wide open right before we went. They keep the curtains closed even on the empty ones. The last few rooms are not visible from the main floor but down a hall. He could have seen where we went if we went to the first 3-4, but not the one we went to. Might have looked in all of the ones down that hallway.
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Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
My first thought was that it a jealous S.O.; secondly maybe a jealous RIL - but at the end of the day strip-clubs get their fair-share of weirdos and lowlifes so it could have just been some weirdo that may even have some mental issues - w/o knowing any details my initial thought is a jealous S.O.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
If it was her so she'd show some nervousness and hesitation etc. Not just carry on with the vip. Plus there are cameras. A bouncer would show up if someone got in like that
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gammanu95
3 years ago
I had jealous RIL hovering outside the VIP while I was at cheetahs sarasota ( before it sucked). There's no extras there, but had he busted in I'm sure it would have escalated. Dude had a very unhealthy obsession (possessiveness) of her.
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ilbbaicnl
3 years ago
At a better club it should be hard for a PL to go into VIP unescorted by a dancer.
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rattdog
3 years ago
definitely was not a raid. i've been in 2 raids before, each in a different state. cops do not operate the way like that guy did.

that guy was a loon tune who most likely wanted to enjoy a VIP but was lacking sufficient funds. sucks to be that kind of guy.

most bouncers that i have known over the years would have removed that guy right away.
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rickthelion
3 years ago
”Sounds more like a drunk lunatic to me, it’s a common enough sight in a strip club to not write it off.”

As a drunk lunatic I resent that. Iceyape, you are prejudiced against drunk lunatics and imma go wildebeest on your bigoted ass. Now where can I find you? Also, where the fuck is my drivin’ whiskey? ROAR!!!
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goldmongerATL
3 years ago
A cop might have been collecting incidents they had personally observed. On such and such a date officer Dickhead entered a VIP room and observed ...

In this case Dickhead observed two people hugging. One happened to be nekkid.

He actually had a bit of a disappointed expression for a moment, like "crap, nothing is going on."
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ilbbaicnl
3 years ago
If a cop caught you doing something legally defined as sex under the prostitution laws like that, it would be a seriously shitty situation. To get a conviction, they'd have to get somebody to flip, ether the stripper on the PL, or the PL on the stripper. Would you hang tough and hope the stripper would too? Would you wonder if they, say, found illegal drugs in possession of the stripper, so they could use that to get her to flip on you?
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goldmongerATL
3 years ago
They are after the club. I could see testimony that undercover agents spent 100 hours in the club and will testify they observed the following 347 illegal acts. A cop can testify as to what he observed. Obviously carries less weight that charging someone. Could have even had a hidden camera to help corroborate.

But, I am not a lawyer.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
I still wouldn't go back to that club for a while.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
It wasn't a cop.

How did the dancer react? Did she warn others? Tell management? Etc...

I've seen club security do checks like this before.
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crsm27
3 years ago
My guess wouldn't be a "cop". But just some "do gooder" thinking they are helping. Just like people automatically think if a massage parlor is in an area or an asian massage parlor that it is a jerk shack. So they want the cops to investigate and will "watch" what is going on.

But that is my guess. Someone on a crusade type thing.
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Cashman1234
3 years ago
Seems like a very odd guy. Hopefully that’s all he was.

It’s odd seeing a guy lurking around a private area when the guy isn’t an obvious bouncer - or the guy isn’t with a dancer.

It can be a very difficult thing to recover from, and get back to the business at hand.

Based on the description, that guy seems better suited to lurking in a glory hole or adult book store.
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Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
"... They are after the club ...”

Given this is likely the ATL club that has been discussed b/f; then it raises the chances that it *was* a cop – from previous threads the city has been constantly harassing this club trying to get it shut-down; not to mention multiple other clubs in nearby cities have been shut-down in the last couple of years – from previous-threads it has been posted about cops going into the club and fining custies, and if I remember correctly also stopping custies when leaving the club – these motherfuckers in power will pull w/e stunt they need to when they are going after someone including bending of the laws; making up new laws; or just outright breaking-the-law – at the end of the day they *are* the law and will thus often abuse it – many clubs try to fight-it in court but rarely win in the end and it costs them a fortune whereas the city “never runs out of $$$” and its’ also not their $$$ so they often don’t care about wasting $$$ in litigation in order to get their way in the end not to mention there is often a financial-interest by the powers-to-be to get a club closed; and also strip-clubs will rarely get any sympathy either by politicians; the courts; or the public-at-large thus they are often alone in their fight w/ no-one backing them up.
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gammanu95
3 years ago
"I still wouldn't go back to that club for a while." I would agree with Ishmael's advice, but I think the good hounds of Atlanta are running out of options for fun dances. Am I wrong? For instance, I hate going to Looker's (ID scanning and Cuban mafia hoes) here, but Allure @ babe's and Vixens are so fucking awful that they are 99/100 visits a waste of time. So it's either Lookers or nothing. What would be your alternatives in ATL?
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shadowcat
3 years ago
^^^

You mean no customers are willing to back them up?
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Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
"... You mean no customers are willing to back them up? ..."

Customers or anyone else IMO - strip-clubs are considered seedy businesses and hardly anyone will stick their neck-out to support them b/c they'll be considered/looked-at as seedy themselves
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bkkruined
3 years ago
whereas the city “never runs out of $$$”

Ultimately, it's money coming from the tax payers of that city and they do have the power to make it stop.

In Seattle, shit like this was going on for years. But a shitload of corruption surrounded it, club owner was paying straw donors to contribute over the limit for political campaigns, cops were dating strippers, just a big shit show until ultimately the FBI got involved and all his clubs were shutdown and property auctioned.

And the mayor lost the next election.

10 years later... I haven't heard a peep about any enforcement of anything in the several clubs that have opened since. And stories of extras in those clubs are rampant.

While there's a lot of liberal "defund the police" kinda attitude in local politics, the people in Seattle largely just don't care who's fucking in the strip clubs (although city ordinance did require "panic buttons" in the VIP rooms....) and are overall kinda pissed about police funding used to harass these places.

The only investigation to make the news in about 15 years was some crooked vice cop fucking a stripper and her selling drugs from him in the club. (club stayed open, cop's gone).
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rattdog
3 years ago
i've yet to see a customer, dancer, owner, etc. ever hold up a picket sign that said, "leave this club alone."
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
Goldmonger what was her reaction?
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gammanu95
3 years ago
Very few of us not would not experience negative repercussions for demonstrating in favor of a strip club. Although, that could be sexy picket line, ymmv.
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goldmongerATL
3 years ago
That club's dancers and other staff have gone to city council meetings and hearings en masse to speak on the club's behalf.
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Papi_Chulo
3 years ago
^ those are usually the only people that will publicly advocate on behalf of strip-clubs; for obvious reasons
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joewebber
3 years ago
"That club's dancers and other staff have gone to city council meetings and hearings en masse to speak on the club's behalf"

unfortunately, the people that go to the hearings are not well versed on public speaking or debate and often get sidetracked and are not able to drive the real points home.
i have watched several of these meetings and cringed when i've seen the dancers try to make a point.
i support them 100%. i wish the attys and others involved would help prep them to present their case better.
it doesn't help that they show up like they just finished work.
appearances matter in city council and in court.

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bkkruined
3 years ago
"^ those are usually the only people that will publicly advocate on behalf of strip-clubs; for obvious reasons"


You don't really have to "advocate" for them... Just following the local news on social media, and every time a sting makes the news, rant and rave about all the other shit the cops aren't doing cause they're too busy with their power trip over some pretty girls...

I'm sure you guys generally get the idea...

Some place other than the strip club review site...

Can be pretty effective...
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