Should a Monger Travel Advisory be issued for Texas?
Electronman
Too much of a good thing is never enough
I understand and support efforts to eliminate sex trafficking but this law could ensnare anyone, including those in a CONSENSUAL P4P relationship. I also wonder if it would apply to situations where one person paid for a nice meal (or paid the rent/mortgage) in expectation of sexual "favors?"
I'd love to hear from some of the Texas locals.
Will this law kill all adult entertainment services in Texas, including strip clubs, massage parlors, escorts, etc.??
Should traveling mongers be warned to stay away from Texas?
TEXAS PENAL CODE. Effective September 1, 2021.
Sec. 43.021. SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION
(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly offers or agrees to pay a fee to another person for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct with that person or another.
(b) An offense under Subsection (a) is a state jail felony, except that the offense is:
_Sec. 12.35. STATE JAIL FELONY PUNISHMENT. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an individual adjudged guilty of a state jail felony shall be punished by confinement in a state jail for any term of not more than two years or less than 180 days.
(b) In addition to confinement, an individual adjudged guilty of a state jail felony may be punished by a fine not to exceed $10,000.
TEXAS PENAL CODE -- Sec. 43.01. DEFINITIONS.
(3) "Sexual contact" means any touching of the anus, breast, or any part of the genitals of another person with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
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And then as far as attempts to pitch OTC or attempt for higher itc services…forget it that’s difficult to track and remember.
In short: good luck enforcing that. There’s a lot of draconian laws on the books that the good ol’ boys ignore. At worst, maybe a couple of raids and arrests happen and the consequences happen to dancers.
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"Assume" makes an ass out of u and me.
Or in this case, just u.
But at least here, talking about Texas, there is a recognition that state politics have turned into persecution.
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The fucking idiots just support Republicans as long as it doesn't affect them paying hookers for sex. Such admirable values
But Icey can't distinguish between any positions to the right of AOC, so we're all Q or Nazis. Funny, he also likes to talk about shit we'd never say to his face.
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Should mongers stay out of strip clubs and massage parlors when visiting Texas?
Cause of the COVID Hysteria I would say I would like to be in TX now, but these new persecutory laws concern me. Rather be in Florida.
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I agree it is a very ineffective way of curbing human trafficking and has the adverse affects of increased rapes and violence. Not to mention millions employed in the sex industry making an honest living.
However, such laws are proposed and then passed by people who see a need to prove their impeccable "moral fabric". A way of redemption - and many supportive lawmakers and their cohorts have a crappy and sinful past.
There are countries that have curbed human trafficking, venereal disease spread and pimp domination very effectively by appropriate laws - while allowing consensual paid sex between adults.
Fundamentally, making prostitution between consensual adults (18+) criminal, is against United States Constitution.
I have not heard of raids, arrests or changed behavior. But you can be sure they are coming. The entire legal industry likes this kind of crime - from cops, lawyers, judges to everyone in between. It is a safe crime and LE is not endangering life or limb arresting a lonely John seeking company.
If you are a cop - what beat would you like to be assigned for the night?
Watch for criminal activity in thug alley with open firings or visiting a parlor looking for solicitations for sex? ... there's personal safety and pleasure at stake !!!
If you are lawyer - what case would you like to handle?
A guy who shot two people and is broke and has 99 other problems, or an embarrassed John looking to get out of the situation at any cost.
So knowing the politics behind grand politics - once a bill becomes law - we have to follow. And deny the legal/LE industry any chance for having fun and getting paid - at our expense.
That sounds like a great time Nicespice! I am going to pull my dick out more often. I bet that feels so dam good! 👍
When the US outlawed alcohol during Prohibition, it didn't reduce demand for alcohol but it opened the door for criminals, such as Al Capone, to provide illicit (and dangerous) alcohol.
The Texas law and other similar laws may be heading us down the same path as Prohibition. It is usually much better to legalize and regulate a substance (think marijuana and alcohol) or an activity (sex) that people really want/need, than it is to suppress it with draconian laws.
No grinding on customers in Austin.
Must have the required t-back on underwear for Austin in topless clubs.
(Btw dancers have been arrested and had to register as a sex offender, because the alcohol board can and does like its power trips. Customers afaik, have never received any problems.)
Houston I think *might* technically have six foot laws still on the books? But it’s one of the most laughable ignorable things out there.
Dallas one is not allowed to sell hourly time blocks. That is WAY blatantly ignored.
Ft worth has laws against tipping in garters.
San Antonio has the gawd awful painted on pasties. Also, no back massages are allowed on customers. Even if fully clothed and out in the open. Because that’s prostitution as well.
And I’m sure there are many other obscure laws. Generally, club managers don’t go around saying this stuff, it’s mostly found out if/when raids happen.
At the risk of sounding like a raging feminist: The Texas tradition is basically to come up with excuses to go after sex workers, not customers. And this legislation, combined with anti-abortion legislation, is Texas republicans on a rampage to reassert themselves to keep up that tradition.
Heck, even with the recent 21+ law. It was written to keep *everyone* below drinking age out of the clubs. But the clubs blatantly advertise to the 18+ customers but know that they better not advertise the same for the dancers.
I guess there is the ~slight~ possibility of some type of #meetoo sentiment that would enable actually enforcing prosecuting customers thanks to this recent legislation. But Texas doesn’t have known track record for really caring about that type of thing anyways.
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All in all, I have my doubts any patron has anything to worry about.
Nope. This is a law passed primarily to make the general public feel like someone is doing something about the "sinners" in their midst.
The problem with turning minor "crimes" into felonies is that their enforcement (even if selective) puts people in jail who don't need to be in jail. That's expensive to the taxpayer and a great way to turn a minor offense into a career criminal.
10,000 people going to a high school football game? Pfffft
Everyone knows high school basketball is the best sport
Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government which impartially secures to every man whatever is his own. ~ James Madison
The two statements above explain the proper role of government. It is to protect our property. We own our own bodies so that is included under property. The government is not there to protect us from ourselves, only from others. Both Republicans and Democrats can violate this principle. Many Republicans, like the ones in Texas, don't want women to be able to decide whether they want to sell their body for sex in exchange for money. Many Democrats might allow this but wouldn't want high earning escorts to be able to keep the money they earn and subject them to high tax rates. Many Republicans don't want people to be able to use drugs like Marijuana or Cocaine. Many Democrats don't want people to be able to use drugs like Ivermectin or HCQ. Both sides have an inability to see when they are being philosophically inconsistent.
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This is complete insanity and we must fight back in any way we can!
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In Austin in particular the managers got antsy about customers grabbing tits during main floor dances. Not sure if that was because of some local statute or what.
It's cool how you can drive down to Laredo and smell the Jacarandas, without having to cross into Mexico and get carjacked.
And now my cat decided I am looking at this site too much right now so she is being retardedly cute to distract me from this.