Dropping the OTC Bomb
Muddy
USA
Me: “You see some people are inside guys, I happen to be an outside guy if you catch my drift.” “Some like dining in, but I’m more COVID style take out only, you could say I’m just, driving thru…if your picking up what I’m putting down”
Her: *Gets up and walks away immediately*
That’s just how I roll son
Her: *Gets up and walks away immediately*
That’s just how I roll son
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I have found that if a girl is immediately interested in doing something outside the club and brings it up the first time I see them, then it's usually someone I'm not interested in. They are desperate because they are sexually unattractive and can't make money in the club or they have an expensive drug habit. I know from experience that serious drug addicts have a strong temptation to try and rob you if they can so it is best to stay away from them. I'm not a reckless person and safety is important to me too so I'm always cautious in situations where I've learned being cautious is a good idea.
It’s a very NYC way of doing business - as you know immediately what’s up.
I will take a dancer for a few dances first. If she doesn’t open up, and offer an indication of being a bit naughty, then I won’t ask. If a dancer gives me a bit more, I will ask politely if she’s open to getting more comfortable OTC.
That is probably why I have come to enjoy the Sugaring game. Everything is essentially OTC for a sugar date. I just have to put in the work online making the girl feel comfortable with me.
On the road it is pretty much hit or miss. Mostly miss. Because they don't know me.
I also agree with Warrior’s comment. It’s likely that SJG looked like a reasonable/decent guy at one time. But, normal looking dudes can be true creeps in disguise. So, many dancers take it slow.
SJG
Of course it is. Just in the direction you didn't consider.
She must be comfortable you aren’t a cop.
She must be comfortable you aren’t a creep or serial killer.
There is a difference between a strip club dancer who does OTC - and a true prostitute. The dancer is likely supplementing income with a few OTC clients. A prostitute likely won’t be stripping, as the dancing and customer chatting are basically a waste of her time.
And even if she is a cop, there is nothing illegal about kissing her.
I don't solicit women or otherwise treat them as prostitutes
SJG
SJG
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=4737
"Hey, I just met you, and this is crazy/But here's my number, so call me, maybe"
“Tonight will be the night that I will fall for you over again/Don’t make me change my mind/I won’t live to see another day/I swear it’s true/Because a girl like you is impossible to find”
"I may not be in love. But let me tell you I'm in heat."
"Let's remove the space between me and you."
"Let's play a love game. I'll be Alejandro, you be Lady Gaga and I'll let you take a ride on my disco stick.
Anyway she was a real freak in VIP so I always thought why not meet me for OTC which I imagined would be even more fun. She always refused and thought I was nuts for asking. Her thought process was anything you want to do OTC we can do ITC, (well I personally like to have sex on beds instead of folding chairs for one), and she’d have to make arrangements for a sitter etc etc etc for OTC and it was just too much of a hassle.
One day I finally got it. She simply made enough money while in the club that OTC to her would be like someone asking you to work on a Sunday. If you don’t need the extra money then why would you do it?
My approach to OTC is basic. No "lines". No frills. After a good VIP, I ask "I'd like to see you outside the club. Is that possible?" Often they say "Yes." Sometimes they say "No." For the ones that say "No," I don't push. But I'll occasionally remind them that the offer is on the table.