The Power of the Suit
Muddy
USA
Every once in a blue moon I'll be in Manhattan for a job interview, or something or other, dressed up in suit. I figure on the way back home I'll hit a strip club it's a unique opportunity. I was in Rick's Cabaret and as I sat down I noticed the conga line of dancers that would come my way. As one sat down, if I wasn't interested at the time, the next one sat down as soon as she got up. It was odd because outside of the strip club in real life, girls often immediately get up and run away when I sit next to them, here they ran to sit next to me as I sat down. The only thing left really was for Rod Serling walk out.
But the point being every *single* dancer in the club checked in with me. There was no white space. It really can change the dynamic of everything if attention is what your going for, your certainly perceived a different light. I don't know want to come off as Captain Obvious but I think the difference in how the dancers operated was dramatic enough to be worth noting.
You know we go after Rick Dugan for dressing up like Tony Montana to go to some shithole strip club out in the Florida boonies but you know what he might be onto something. Especially considering where I usually come from dress wise which is typically a wife beater and those Lieutenant Dangle male stripper shorts.
But the point being every *single* dancer in the club checked in with me. There was no white space. It really can change the dynamic of everything if attention is what your going for, your certainly perceived a different light. I don't know want to come off as Captain Obvious but I think the difference in how the dancers operated was dramatic enough to be worth noting.
You know we go after Rick Dugan for dressing up like Tony Montana to go to some shithole strip club out in the Florida boonies but you know what he might be onto something. Especially considering where I usually come from dress wise which is typically a wife beater and those Lieutenant Dangle male stripper shorts.
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I've noticed the more I dress down the more attention I get from women.
Maybe I’m way off base, but dancers in NYC are likely the sharkiest of sharks - and can tell from the cut of the clothing whether you are a whale?
How did it go once they sat with you and chatted? Did they add an extra zero or two to the dance price?
The lesson I learned:
If wearing dark colored wool suit pants, the jizz marks around the fly area are unlikely to come clean unless you specifically point it out to the dry-cleaners to treat as a stain. First couple times I tried to play it off like, "I dunno, must have dropped some salad dressing in my lap or something." Eventually it was more like just kind of show them and they're like, "Ok, we take care of that."
Do they still make suits?
"Salad dressing? Uh, yeah, whatever you say, mister." 🤭😂
They were straight faced and professional, but I'll bet they were laughing like hell after I left.
This gave me flashbacks, lol.
To the broader topic, times have indeed changed a bit over the last 10+ years. For starters, almost nobody wears a tie anymore except for salespersons, so when I travel for work I go tieless. Also gam is right that suits are so much less common down here in FL that a dress shift, dress pants and nice shoes have the same effect as a full suit in other colder venues.
Just a suit t shirt with black socks and dress shoes would work just fine…
@cash to be honest I was there mostly for the meal deal and to watch but I got a couple lapdances out of a girl. I certainly wasn’t the whale they may have been expecting.
I avoid the clubs in Manhattan, as they are too classy for me. Even the non-whales spend more than I do.
PL customer: How do you get the jizz stains out of those suit pants?
Chinese dry cleaner: Ancient Chinese secret…
Show up in a heavy tee and some pro club shorts. Vans. Fuck it go topless. My favorite all time place is the beach and boardwalks coz the beach is the great equalizer
Maybe if Muddy’s suit wearing scheme catches on they’ll advertise getting splooge stains off of suits.
I don’t think anything can fix a dick shaped shiny area on your suit pants…
SJG
My ex-father-in-law once told me an early job he had was working at a Tide detergent factory. The boxes came along a conveyor and he pulled a leaver that filled them up with powdered soap.
At some point in the process, the boxes would change from the colorful Tide boxes to the intentionally bland-looking generic ones. The soap was exactly the same.
One of the dancers started asking questions - Why the suit? What happened? Did you come from a funeral? Did something bad happen and you had to go to court? Why don't you make yourself comfortable and take off your tie and jacket?
I felt like Rodney Dangerfield - "I get no respect."
It still might be worth it though.
If your goal is as a lowball PL
then its a bad plan. Maybe it helps if you are compensating or something.
Personally I never will wear a suit to a club as a plan. That glitter, make up and spilled drinks just spells more dry cleaning.
Aside from the man who perfected the System - I’m wondering if that is a look to be attempted by any mortal monger?
I was once at my kid’s baseball game right after a meeting and was still in a suit. Some parent I didn’t know decided to be snarky and said to me “why are you wearing a suit to a baseball game? Trying to compensate by hiding your shape?”
I was taken aback but then said “can’t help about the shape I’m in. I can’t sing, I ain’t pretty and my legs are thin…oh well”. I don’t know if she got the reference but she didn’t say another word and other parents in the stands were laughing.
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Have another sippy cup, take a nap, and you'll forget all about in... what were we talking about?
wearing a suit inside a strip club only attracts the wrong kind of attention and invites gold diggers to you. as most have said, you will also be written off if it's a cheap suit of a funeral suit--they notice and know. at least the ones that keep up with fashion will know.
there's a PL that frequents Atlanta clubs. he wears a crisp white button-down shirt, black slacks and shoes. he has olive skin and dark black hair. a few dancers have asked me to run interference (by taking them to a different area of the club) in the past because he's a 'possessive dick' (their words). i would never have noticed him on my own because i'm not looking at men in the clubs.
during certain conventions, I used to see the parade of 'businessmen' flow into the club like their bus just landed. they all were dressed in their bright white shirts and their suit pants. the girls would make the rounds and find the closest matches to whales, and they'd waste a few hours with them.
during the summer, the same type of PLs will wear khaki's, golf shirts, and loafers without socks into the clubs. many dancers avoid these guys like the plague.
dancers also notice your shoes. if you're wearing cheap or unkempt shoes, don't expect them to approach you.
finally, if you want the right kind of attention, stay away from wearing overly nice clothes into the nightclub/strip club. between the cigarette smoke and burns, liquor spills, bodily fluids, and higher prices, it's not worth it.
Also. A lot of guys go to strip clubs to flex for social media.
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As someone with ample experience on the topic, I'd amend this to say that it brings ALL kinds of attention, both good and bad. But as with any club visit, it is the hound's job to separate the wheat from the chaff. They are all gold diggers. If you are worried that you can't deal with the aggressive ones then you may wish to rethink strip clubs as a meaningful source of entertainment.
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A guy can dress super casual, as I like to, when people know him.
In a strip club girls are always suspect about guys being jobless and socially dysfunctional. I do not go along with this, but they do. So a suit is good.
Even better in an AMP where you can nicely take it off and hang it up on hooks.
You girl will not refuse you anything.
SJG
That’s pretty much how strip clubs were though 10 years ago, when I was going in with jeans and a polo shirt.
If you sat down for a couple hours, tipped a few bucks at the stage once in a while, and didn’t look like a slob, you might miss the 1 or 2 most popular dancers but you could pretty much count on all the rest checking in with you. These days…not so much.
*Unless they're tipping me, too
The honeys somehow know I'm a spender. In the clubs I've been frequenting a suit may have the opposite of the desired effect.
No it wouldn't. The girls know you're a spender because you've got history with them. But a stranger is starting from zero and, IME, being dressed well helps a lot with getting some girl flow. It's why I always go to the club in my work clothes when I'm traveling.
^^^ @san_jose_creep so what you're saying is wearing a suit is good if you want to hide the fact that you're jobless and socially dysfunctional?
Those who reminisce about the 1970s are also posting about recent strip club visits and writing current reviews.
Once again I highly suggest that you learn what it means to make a strawman argument. Coz you just made one, dumbass.
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