Why are we surprised by vax skepticism?
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One of my favs is a big vax skeptic. She talks about the constant DARE devil's lettuce crap when she was in school, while watching many lives of people close to her ruined by alcoholism. Then we've got three wars in the past 60 years, thousands of ours dead, many many thousands more who will never be the same, oceans of innocent blood on our hands. But the gliberals wanna say vax skepticism cause deplorables. I got my jabs, but I understand the people who see no reason to trust our gubment.
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Aside from her, I don't talk about this stuff with dancers.
The measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine prevents measles, mumps, and rubella.
(Etc.)
This "vaccine" doesn't prevent the infection. It doesn't prevent the symptoms / actually being sick. And it doesn't prevent the carrier from spreading. All it does is lessen the symptoms...and apparently "requires" a booster every six months?
That's some "vaccine".
Yeah, I got my two shots. But unless something drastically changes, I don't plan to get more. I mean when the hell does it end?
It actually indeed does, just not with 100% efficacy. I felt very safe after getting my vaxx. Going for my booster this week.
There will be new generations of vaccines and therapeutics that will be longer lasting, cover more variants, be easier to manufacture, etc.
Read into this what you like.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/measles…
In fact, it is less effective against mumps than Pfizer or Moderna are against COVID.
Just because you know how to put the scare quotes around words doesn’t mean you’re using those scare quotes appropriately. I’m sure you’ll change what you’re saying now that you know actual fact rather than your dumbass preconceptions.
You’re welcome
That’s why PhD virologists are what we call EXPERTS and why random weirdos on Facebook or titty club websites are not experts.
Now that you know I’m sure you will change your arguments accordingly.
You’re welcome.
I don’t know the chemical composition of every substance I ingest, and that’s ok. I don’t know the composition of the covid vaccine either, but I know it’s important to reduce my possibility of contracting the covid virus, and it will drastically reduce my chances of death.
I think our politicians - in their quest for control - took a pandemic and made it a political issue. That is a horrible thing. Politicians must not disparage scientific evidence if it doesn’t correspond with their desires. Now, we have folks even more divided as a result. The country should be united to fight the covid virus - with everyone getting a vaccine.
How often do you hear about outbreaks of measles or mumps among the vaccinated? Or someone you know getting those? Or someone you know talking about someone they know getting it?
And yet, getting Covid after getting the shots isn't exactly a needle-in-a-haystack event.
From your CDC link: "two doses of MMR vaccine are about 97% effective at preventing measles.....since then (vaccination intro in 1960s), widespread use of measles virus-containing vaccine has led to greater than 99% reduction in measles compared to the pre-vaccine era.". -- that sounds quite effective. For mumps, it looks like it's about 88% effective.
For Covid-19, yes, the shots are effective at minimizing symptoms. No argument there from me. But with the different variants, the effectiveness drops. It's too early to give a de facto figure, but hell just among my group of friends, six went on a trip. Five were vaccinated. Three (two who'd gotten shots) came home with Covid. Ben Roethlosberger got his shots and still got sick. The author of the article in the link below had her shots and said when she got it after it was like her worst flu. A recent study mentioned in the article noted that the shots were far more effective vs the "original" version, but maybe only 65% vs Delta. If this shit is going to keep mutating, what does that mean? Lower and lower and lower effectiveness? So again I ask...where the hell does it end? Boosters every six months in perpetuity? Every three months? Every year? Every time there's a new variant? By the time they figure out what's effective against the "current" version, there is a new improved mutation out there.
Yeah, the shots help...to an extent. But let's not kid ourselves and act like anyone has a fucking clue about how this will end.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot…
People die in auto crashes, even if they are wearing seat belts.
People get lung cancer even if they have never smoked a cigarette.
And, yes condoms are not fool proof protection from an unwanted pregnancy or STI.
I don't blindly trust the government or anyone in authority; but I understand enough about probability to tilt the odds in my favor. I don't smoke, I wear a seat belt, I use condoms (sometimes) and I have my vaccine shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNeBdxPt…
SJG
The data for the US has never been released.
SJG
In the UK, 70% of the COVID deaths are the fully vaccinated. And if you are over 40 years old, you have a greater chance of getting COVID if you are vaccinated. The US data has never been released. The FDA approved the vaccine in 108 days. But they say releasing pfizer's qualifying data will take 55 years.
Alex Berenson on Dr. Drew, today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNeBdxPt…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNeBdxPt…
UK data:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTyMvMH0…
In the UK, 70% of the COVID deaths are the fully vaccinated. And if you are over 40 years old, you have a greater chance of getting COVID if you are vaccinated. The US data has never been released. The FDA approved the vaccine in 108 days. But they say releasing pfizer's qualifying data will take 55 years.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/
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And I believe in driving close to posted speed limits but if the government tells somebody they “must” do it or we’ll screw your whole life up, I say FUCK THEM AND FUCK YOU.
To answer your question:
Q: Why are we surprised by vax skepticism?
A: In my humble opinion many are surprised, because they are unaware that vaccine doubt or uncertainty and mistrust/skepticism is as old as vaccines themselves.
And the business of Western medicine has historically been abusing the poor people of any color.
Everyone should be aware of the diabolical Tuskegee syphilis study, when federal officials “experimented” on Blacks.
“It’s never been about left vs right (or whites vs blacks or pro-vaccine vs anti-vaccine etc)
More like 0.1% of regular ass humans (of any color) tricking the rest of us into fighting among ourselves while they rob us blind.”
~ SanchoRG, Texas
~ Joined Aug, 2017 Last Seen Nov, 2021
“This f-ing country is hopeless. The political divisions in the US are almost as bad an Arab country”
“I mean for fuck's sake, is there anything in this country that we can just fucking agree on? Such as, I don't know, not spreading a deadly virus to other people? Nope, apparently deadly viruses are a liberal hoax. Even a pandemic becomes a left-right issue.”
~ CC99
~ Possibly the youngest PL TUSCL has ever seen.
~ massive f-ing weeb who loves cute girls and ecchi.
Many old people, like this girl's father, are quite frightened by this disease. This fear is a rational response in their case but the same level of fear may not be rational in a young person. An eighty year old is a thousand times more likely to die of Covid than a twenty year old. The main exception for older people are those who have already had the disease and have natural immunity. A recent Israeli study showed people with natural immunity have one sixth the chance of getting Covid as a vaccinated person. A Washington University study showed people who had Covid had antibodies equivalent to a tetanus shot. The tetanus shot provides protection for ten years so it is possible Covid natural immunity could last for years. SARS is 80% similar to Covid. People who had SARS seventeen years ago still show antibodies. There is also cross immunity between SARS and Covid. People who had SARS years ago are less likely to catch Covid now.
There are studies like a CDC study that show natural immunity doesn't work as well as vaccines but they rely on the inability of the layman to see the underlying methodological flaws in them. Also, many people tend to unthinkingly trust authority figures. Many of these government agencies suffer from what is in economics called "regulatory capture". This is the tendency of government regulatory agencies to be taken over by the industries they are supposed to regulate. In the case of Covid, vaccines are promoted for everyone because of the influence of Big Pharma. For example, Pfizer has 932 lobbyists in Washington. They also make large donations to politicians they think will win elections. This is not ideological. They gave Trump a million dollars in 2016 and Biden a million dollars in 2020. They are just buying political influence. The vaccines have been very profitable for Pfizer, adding several billion dollars to their profits this year.
Without this vaccine company influence, we would probably be engaging in what epidemiologist Martin Kulldorf at Harvard calls "focused protection". People in high risk categories like being old or obese would be strongly encouraged to get the vaccine while people in low risk categories like young people and those with natural immunity could skip it if they want. Once vaccinated, the vaccine provides a good level of protection against death to the vaccinated person so vaccinated people are not at great risk from the unvaccinated.
But, when dealing with a worldwide pandemic, the current science is important to follow. This is one of those times when the 24/7 news cycle is both a blessing and a curse. We can be informed about many things almost immediately. But, in the rush to get the news out first, mistakes can be made. As the CDC learned about the virus, and held updates, it became a challenge for their advice to remain consistent.
Problem is, some people do their cause no favors by being sanctimonious about it. You can tell Fauci relishes his power by some of the officious shit he says. "I am science" is something no follower of the scientific method would ever say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_d…
Can’t you hear the guys cries for FREEDOM? The MAN is gonna write him up for 125 an post his picture wanted dead or alive. WHY AREN’T YOU FREEDOM LOVERS PROTESTING THAT SHIT?
Anybody as cool as Sammy should be able to drive AS FAST AS HE WANTS!
It's also reasonable to choose to take the shots.
It's also reasonable to be glad the shots exist for those who are particularly vulnerable to a bad outcome from COVID.
Those things are not in conflict in any way.
The only horrible thing about the shots is the push to mandate them, even for people who have gained truly effective immunity via actual infection and recovery. The push to have such mandates proves that for some people, the shots are not about health, but about something else.
But there is much which is still unknown about this vaccine. Data from other industrialized countries suggest that it is making things worse.
In this country the FDA is refusing to release the data for 55 years.
Alex Berenson: How Coronavirus Hysteria Took Over Our Government, Rights & Lives – Ask Dr. Drew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNeBdxPt…
'Media-Driven Hysteria': DeSantis Slams Talk Of 'Lockdowns' Amid Omicron Variant Concerns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y7wLQDM…
First Republican who has said things I like since Dwight Eisenhower, really since Abraham Lincoln.
SJG
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A lot of the lesser COVID impact in the developing world is because they have fewer old people.
Now more than ever we need substantive debate about decisions that affect the health of hundreds of millions of people, including views counter to official positions.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XF5F2Xr…
Alex Berenson suing Twitter in S.F. US District Court, case complaint:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/bere…
Santa Clara County, COVID Dashboard, this is NOTHING!
the precautions and the vaccine are the things keeping this going!
https://covid19.sccgov.org/dashboard-cas…
Israel going to a 4th shot, Alex Berenson on Clay and Buck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKmz-Jrc…
SJG
Leana Wen has been a definite part of the problem since the pandemia started:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbro…
After Doctors Were Fired Over Vaccine Mandates, Biden Tries to Save Face (Dec 21)
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli…
Hopefully Biden will be walking the hysteria, the mandates, and the vaccine push back, hopefully.
Streamed 32 minutes ago, lets listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-md4jCM6…
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White House press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters the speech would not focus on "locking the country down," but that Biden would be "direct and clear with the American people about the benefits of being vaccinated." She said he would also discuss steps being taken to increase testing and to stress the risks posed to those unvaccinated.
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Total Number of Confirmed Omicron Deaths So Far: Zero? (Update: One Death, 'With' Omicron?) (Dec 13th)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-md4jCM6…
The simplest way to understand the insanity of boosting for Omicron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-md4jCM6…
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We call them vaccines. But it is clear after a year of use that the mRNA shots do not produce a robust long-term B- or T-cell immune response.
What they do is drive up antibodies to the spike protein (to unnaturally high levels, levels that all by themselves may cause problems, but put that aside). And those antibodies are extremely narrowly focused, not just on the spike protein but on a particular part of it.
In other words, they basically turn your body into a factory for generating monoclonal antibodies for the original wild-type virus.
But THOSE ANTIBODIES DON’T WORK ANYMORE AGAINST OMICRON. Its shape is too different. They can’t attach properly. Which is why the Lilly and Regeneron antibodies are being phased out.
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