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Nobel Peace Prize for Trump incoming

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gammanu95Have you ever tried to stick a silver dollar into a stripper's G-string?

Let's first acknowledge that the bar for the Nobel Peace Prize was not set low by awarding it to Barry Obama for being black in 2009. The bar, all criteria, any actual work or accomplishments normally considered as prerequisites were thrown out the window and burnt to ash by giving it to a guy because he was one half of some race.

Let's also acknowledge the complete and abject failures of all norms of foreign policy followed by prior administrations. Nothing done by any president since 1946 has stopped the spread of nuclear weapons. Sanctions, foreign aid, embargos, and military interventions did nothing to stop North Korea, Pakistan, or India from creating their own nuclear arsenal. Only direct military action from Israel against Iraq and the US against Iran have thwarted their nuclear ambitions.

Trump is the first president since Carter to acknowledge the dangers of the military-industrial complex. Reagan wielded it more skillfully than any modern president, the Clintons, the Bushes, the Bidens, and Obama all fed it like the hungry monstrosity it is, Carter feared it, but Trump is bringing back the practice of wielding it as a tool without creating new battlegrounds to feed it.

This admin is also reviving the practice of making other nations take responsibility for being honest partners and working with us to protect their sovereignty rather than expecting us to fix everything for them. He is also discarding the predictable failures of foreign policy norms described earlier by talking to our adversaries. Noone should like having to engage with tyrants like Putin or Un, but it is necessary to secure peace. This is what will end the Russian attacks against Ukraine. Neverminvisd why it started- that is past and cannot be undone. Also be realistic about what is possible- Russia has gained and holds territory. They have no reason and no need to give it back, and Ukraine has no ability to take it. The goal is to stop further bloodshed.

Putin asked Trump for the meeting in Alaska. Trump toyed with him by giving him a narrow little red carpet compared to Trump's big, beautiful, red carpet, and placing the pinnacle of America's air superiority around the ceremonial greeting with F-22s on the ground and a combined B-2 and F-35 flyover- both an honorary fly-by and a reminder of what we have that no other nation on Earth does. No reasonable person expected a spontaneous breakout of peace following this initial meeting. However, it gave Trump, as a mediator, an understanding of what Putin wanted for a cessation of shotilities and what he would accept from Ukraine, Europe, and others in exchange for ending the bloodshed in Ukraine.

It also cemented America's role as the leader of the free world and Trump's role as global peacemaker. This is proven by Trump's immediate invitations to Europe and Ukraine to meet in DC and those leaders' accepting the invitation with enthusiasm and no hesitation. It reinforces the understanding that America is NATO's partner in mutual defense, but the EU's security concerns vis-a-vis Russian imperial ambitions are a European problem unless a NATO country invokes article 5.

No other world leader since the Russian invasion began has come as close to peace. No other world leader has done so much to end the fighting between Hamas and Israel. No other leader has done as much to end the threat which Iran's nuclear ambitions have posed to the Middle East and world peace. No other world leader has done as much to end the destructive South American exodus and trafficking which fed the Cartels in Mexico, central, and South America. By contrast, most American presidents and even presidential candidates were part of the problem - keeping their cronies in the defense industries fat and happy on taxpayer money, keeping tehs southern border porous and enriching Cartels beyond their wildest dreams, giving lip service to international threats disrupting the global balance of power and all at the expense of our national security and our childrens' future.

How hasn't Trump done more to earn a Nobel Peace Prize than anyone else in modern history?

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Lex Luthor

Well said, but let's wait another year or two to see how things pan out with all these conflicts. I want Trump to win the Nobel Peace Prize because it was legitimately earned, not the way Obama won his.

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Electronman

No other world leader has started a trade war with inconsistent, on again-off again tariffs. This trade war will drive up prices and erode quality of life for his the poor and uneducated voters who were so gullible as to believe Trump's prices.
No other world leader has alienated so many otherwise friendly nations with insults and threats.
No other world leader has promised to end the Gaza war and the Ukraine-Russia war within one week of taking office and failed so miserably.

Only a few other world leader have used the power of their office for personal financial benefit.

Only a few other world leaders have applied the rule of law so inconsistently to pardon their supporters for obvious breaches of the law.

I could continue....... but you get the picture that there is an alternative perspective on Trump's performance.

If Trump had been President when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, would he have offered land ("sure Japan, you can take over the Hawaiian Islands) for peace?

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skibum609

Not one thing other than talking has been accomplished so far. Let us review the actual results before knighting anyone.

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Studme53

The U.S. place in the world stage is in transition. Since WW2 we have been an empire that weighs in and often tilts the scales in every conflict in the world with direct or indirect military intervention.
Most of the American people no longer see that as our role. Spending hundreds of billions of American taxpayer money to support wars in Ukraine and Israel is not remotely critical to U.S. interests. Trump recognizes that withholding U.S. funding of war is supported by the American people but also facilitates peace.
If Europe/EU wants to be Ukraine’s war daddy, let them. There’s more of an argument it’s in their interests.

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rickdugan

Among Trump's notable achievements are:
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  • The Abraham Accords (he should win it for this alone);
  • Peace between Israel and Iran after decades of proxy wars.
  • A new peace deal he recently brokered between Rwanda and Congo (which got very little press), ending a protracted war in which 8 million human beings were killed;
  • Economic normalization and peace between Kosovo and Serbia (in his first administration).
  • Negotiated an extended ceasefire with Turkey in northeast Syria.
. Now I fully understand why some would not want to give it to him, as deserving as he is. His gloating and self-congratulations if he received it would be downright unbearable. But if we are being completely honest, who has done more than him to achieve real peace in this world?
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skibum609

The Abraham accords have changed nothing so far. Iran and Israel have a truce and aren't at peace. Turkey and Syria aren't fighting because Syria can't, but Congo and Rwanda are a huge win, but no one really gives a shit about Africa unless it's not a republican doing right by them.

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