OT: Ahmaud Arbery Murder Trial
Tetradon
I'll act nicer if you'll act smarter.
In case we thought we were out of the judicial woods.
This one looks like some good ol' boys who wanted to mete out a little extra-judicial justice.
Unless I'm missing something, the jury should vote to convict open-and-shut.
This one looks like some good ol' boys who wanted to mete out a little extra-judicial justice.
Unless I'm missing something, the jury should vote to convict open-and-shut.
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Even when you're directionally right, you manage to fuck it up, ICEE.
Here’s what would have made that purge more fun: give the three hillbilly apes swords and give the other one a trident and light armor. I was going to say that the hillbillies should fight in the nude, bot nobody wants to see that shit. So they can wear t-shirts and sweatpants. Then let the combat begin. ROAR!!!
It's not like Rittenhouse. Not even the same ballpark. What the fuck is wrong with you, you stupid fuckin' fuck?
What I remember from last year is that they were following Arbery either b/c they had seen him wandering around a house under construction or b/c there had been some break-ins in the neighborhood; or both (can't remember).
I don't think they were "hunting him down" - for one they were videotaping the whole thing; I assume to prove that they were just following him - from what I remember the video shows Arbery walking up the road agitated and the redneck on the other side of the road - Arbery then all of a sudden darts across the road at full speed and goes for the redneck's gun and from what I recall of the vid actually had his hands on the barrel of the redneck's gun - that's when the redneck fired to avoid Arbery from taking his gun.
According to GA law at the time, civilians were entitled to make a citizen's arrest - from what I recall the rednecks never put a finger on Arbery; from what I recall of the vid they were keeping their distance - they were keeping their distance from each other till Arbery took off running towards the redneck and grabbed the redneck's gun.
There was another video shown around that time last year where an undercover cop had approached Arbery at a park known for criminal activity - Arbery is seen being combative and agitated towards the cop in that vid.
There's a lot to be dissected here - but at the end of the day the rednecks had plenty of chances to do something to Arbery and they didn't; the rednecks even videotaped what they were doing in order to show what their intentions were which were "in their redneck minds" to follow someone they thought was suspicious and following him till the authorities got there - if there intent was to harm Arbery they had plenty of chances and they would have not videotaped the incident and made it public.
If I remember correctly the father of the shooter was at one point somehow involved w/ the local sheriff's department in some capacity - a lot of this probably still goes on in rural parts where the locals are often wary of anyone suspicious in their neighborhoods where most people tend to know each other.
Because we all know those 3 hillbillies are guilty. There's not much to argue about here. Reasonable people know when they see something totally fucked up like how Arbery was basically hunted down and killed.
But I'd really like to know where are the Rittenhouse-haters complaining about this group outside the Court House? https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ahmaud-…
Why aren't they freaking out and using language like "running around with AR-15s" or "looking for trouble" or "vigilante?"
The attorney for William “Roddie” Bryan filed a motion for mistrial on Monday, arguing that the presence of protesters outside, some with “large weapons,” had tainted the Ahmaud Arbery murder trial.
Kevin Gough, the attorney for Bryan, 52, has made several such requests throughout the trial, and none have been granted. This time, however, he said the “figurative mob” had become a “literal mob,” complete with a fake coffin, reports 11Alive. CNN reports that the coffin is an “art installation” that bears names of black people killed in “incidents involving police violence.”
According to The Washington Post, Nasiy Nasir X, leader of the Lion of Judah Armed Forces, was also outside the courthouse armed with an AR-15. Nasir X said the justice system itself was on trial, and “the reason why it’s on trial is our beloved brother Ahmaud Arbery was shot dead in the streets, like he was an animal, by three White vigilantes.”
Judge Timothy Walmsley denied the motion, saying the people outside hadn’t been brought to his attention by security.
Bryan, along with father and son Gregory and Travis McMichael, has been charged with nine counts in the death of Arbery, including felony murder, aggravated assault, and false imprisonment, according to NPR. Gregory McMichael told police at the time that he and his son were pursuing a man they believed was a burglary suspect, and at some point, Bryan joined along.
Footage of Arbery’s death, recorded by Bryan, went viral in the months after Arbery was killed. The video shows the last few moments of the pursuit, and then the physical confrontation between Travis McMichael, who is holding a shotgun, and Arbery, who was fatally shot in the encounter.
During closing arguments, Gough made the case that Bryan was armed “only with a cell phone,” reports CNN.
“Roddie Bryan was not aware of any intention, and could not be a party to the crime of malice murder, because he can’t intentionally help commit a crime he doesn’t know is underway,” said Gough.
“Roddie Bryan’s presence is absolutely superfluous and irrelevant to the tragic death of Ahmaud Arbery,” said Gough.
Attorneys for the McMichael’s argued, during closing arguments, that they were pursuing Arbery to make a citizen’s arrest, believing him to be a burglary suspect. Prosecutors, on the other hand, say that on the day of the incident, the McMichaels never actually told police they were looking to perform a citizen’s arrest.
“All three of these defendants made assumptions about what was going on that day,” said lead prosecutor Linda Dunikoski. “And they made their decision to attack Ahmaud Arbery in their driveways, because he was a Black man running down the street.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/defense-a…
And again zero empathy for Arbery.
A) Children and grandmothers are mowed down by a psychopath using an SUV to crush innocent parade-goers.
B) A drug addicted piece of garbage, who butt-raped little boys and served much of his adult life in prison, get's shot dead while violently trying to kill a kid that was no threat to anyone.
If you can't tell the difference between those two scenarios, you're even dumber than you seem.
nina...because like others have stated.... This is a clear cut case of IDIOTS who should be charged with murder. It would be something totally different if these guys would have left the situation once confronted and walked away or drove away... THEY DIDNT... also they never called the police... why didn't they call the police if they suspected something? Many people call the police when they think someone is a drunk driver ahead of them and give description, plate number, etc of the vehicle and follow until police arrive type thing. Also these idiots were looking for confrontation... Rhittenhouse wasn't at all. All the evidence points to that. People will say.... well Rhittenhouse had a gun on him... SO DID MANY OTHERS...
Here is something and please answer it...
So lets say Kyle was a woman about to get raped/assaulted.... and that woman pulls a gun and kills the attacker... is that MURDER or deserve life in prison? Or is that self defense?
Now lets look media talking heads take on this about kyle compared to a woman getting attacked....
1. They say Kyle shouldn't have been there in the first place...
- So doesn't that sound like excuses a rapist would use... you know THAT WOMAN SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN THERE... that woman shouldn't have flirted with the me....the woman shouldn't have worn that outfit.
2. Kyle shouldn't have had a gun unless he was wanting to cause trouble...
- A woman shouldn't carry a gun for self defense against attackers... if she has gun on her is she looking for confrontation?
Also you see this has nothing to do with RACE... it is the fact that someone was attacked, threatened, and defended themselves. Anyone who made it about race is an IDIOT...this goes for right, left, center on the political spectrum... goes for Bernie backers, Trumpsters, Biden buddies.... Rhittenhouse wasn't about race.
With Arbery... race played a factor in why the people were "following" or "chasing" him.... Even if he "matched a description"... they kept following and never once called the police from what I have gathered on this so far.
Trolladon what is the difference between your loved one being killed or murdered? Would you feel better with one or the other?
Not Huber's family's fault that he was justifiably killed, but that doesn't matter.
Also what loved ones think has nothing to do with the LAW or how it is in the court of law. Because even murderers mothers think they are "good kids"... or "mis understood" kids. No... they murdered someone. In the Rhittenhouse case they said it was self defense. He didn't just randomly shot people. He didn't "target" these people ahead of time with the malice to do harm. He REACTED to what they did.... PERIOD!!!
OH MY GOD I'M THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD
You know like when the black people randomly attacked Asians.....that isn't racist.
Here is my question for all....if a white person who owns a store....follows around a black person in that store only because they are black....is that racist?
Naah, that's ICEE. But if you're agreeing with him, you need to course correct.
Yep...that is being racist. Now change it around...black store owner following a white customer only because color if skin....yep racist....
You can change it anyway you want.... asian owner black customer.....if you do anything or treat people differently only because color if skin....that is being racist. Any race can be racist.
Yes that's racist.
It's interesting how y'all are making it a point not to let Arbery be the main topic of this thread...
I said in clear terms this should be open and shut guilty.
Same goes for black store owner following around a Hispanic customer only because color of skin?
Or black store owner following a white customer because color of skin?
All of these examples I stated is racist.
No white guy referenced here murdered two people, the judicial system established that.
Icey, you're the emperor of losers here.
I know some idiots will say... Well if Rittenhouse wasn't there... true... How about those idiots were not starting things on fire or if they would have obeyed police orders and NOT BEEN THERE as well.
They have gone along was from BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS and MY RIGHT MY BODY and what not havent they in about a year or so... Or how about the DEFUND THE POLICE.. to the Rittenhouse case about Well police should have done something that night in Kenosha... Yep have heard that arguement from some idiots.
The jury came to the correct decision.
What they said he was doing was "snooping" around a construction site of a new home. YOu know which many many many people do. They walk into the framed up house and look at the design, layout, etc. It is done on a daily basis. Now again I know there was some burglaries in the area and some might have been on construction sites. BUT THEY CONVICTED PEOPLE NEVER SAW HIM LEAVE WITH ANYTHING.... so again... no evidence that he did anything wrong at all. Other than a possible "trespassing" charge. Which call the police and follow until police arrive and point out the person. YOU DONT GET INVOLVED unless if was your own land they were trespassing on. BTW... it is up to owners of said land to push a trespassing charge... NOT SOME YAHOOS.
You are a bigoted jerk go play at KKK.com
Jury got this one right, and I'm a staunch believer in a right to self-defense.
And I don't get what the Floyd or Johnson or Roof cases have to do with any of this. Cases need to be decided on the facts and the law, not on what favors a particular agenda.
Boobza youre a sick fuck white supremacist
Funny, you call me a troll when you jump on my thread just to throw insults. Don't you have a sister to pimp out? Is she offering a Thanksgiving $20 BJ special?
One of my fav strippers got charged for mutual combat. Some asshole guy kept calling her a bitch over and over. She tried hard to de-escalate him, but finally had enough, and called him the n-word. So his girlfriend charges her. I managed to get hold of the gf, but not before she yanked out a handful of my fav's hair. My fav reflexively threw an ashtray at the gf, but missed. The first (younger female) cop who responded realized who the obvious assailant was. But then an older, apparently higher ranking cop showed up, with a giant stick up his ass, decided to cite both the gf and my fav for mutual combat. That seems to be how this stand your ground shit works in practice, just a license for the cops to go by whatever fucked up bigotry they want. My fav went to her court date, but they didn't "get to" her case, so they told her she'd have to come back. It was pretty clear they were going to do that over and over, thus punishing her solely based on the whim one disgrace-to-the-badge cop. She ended up having to take a plea, having a violent misdemeanor on her record.
You can't claim self-defense on suspicion of a non violent crime, and that's all they had. Otherwise you'll have a million people killed because "they matched a description."
If someone comes after me with a shotgun, I'm getting the fuck out or defending myself, not going to stop until they identify themselves as law enforcement.
And yes, I do trust juries, they get it right more often than not. If you accept the verdict only when you agree with it, you have rule of men, not laws.
Reminds me, I'm going to waste the homeless guy that hangs out near my place. My lawyer will get me off with the "he must have been guilty of something" defense. News at 6! (Just kidding, cops, he's a good dude).
The fuck? You've gone all Imperial Wizard on us. Are you one of Icey's troll accounts?
Who uses language like sub human really man ?
You sure you're not Icey's troll alias here?
I don't know what jury has ever said raping someone was ok. But I'm sure that sentence made sense in your little brain.
PS two denizens of a strip club board shouldn't be talking much about superior morals.
Whatever universal moral principle you're trying to invoke, comparing a jury verdict in America to the rise of Hitler, isn't coming through.
Seriously Icey, wherever you are with this troll alias, your 75 IQ comes through no matter where you are in the political spectrum. But you're entertaining, in a Jackass way.
@25 and I disagree on the Rittenhouse outcome, as we have other things throughout the years, but can do so like grownups.
Ah I get it, your girlfriend left you and your small white penis for a black guy. Explains a lot.
Whatever you might call me to delegitimize my points, my facts and logic make ten times the sense that yours does.
LOL!!! The fuck? Son, have you set foot in a science classroom after the 6th grade? Add biology, natural selection, and procreation to the things you don't understand. Especially the latter, as I don't think you've procreated anything beyond your jizz sock in a decade and a half.
I'd tell you to crawl back to whatever klavern you came from, but it's too entertaining to listen to your pet biological theories about perfect ancestors that died on average before 30, and your fantasies about fucking monkeys.
Back to your jizz sock you go, while you fantasize about a life of semi relevance to the world.
You could try to step to me but it would not end well for you I promise
HAHAHAH!!! What fairy tales are you reading, son?
You probably read some Nietzsche and unironically call yourself an "ubermensch" while hoping your minimum wage employer gives you 20 hours this week.
You're nothing but my plaything here, my entertainment who reminds you how insignificant you are in this world.
Gotta say, Icey, this is one of your more amusing sock puppet accounts.
Arbery's killers are where they belong, rotting in jail, and you are where you belong, rotting in your mother's basement, burning only Hot Pockets.
Put down the tendies and try not to shoot up a shopping mall today.
I'm sure you don't own a gun, your home state assures you can't, just like it requires you to register in any new neighborhood and stay a hundred yards from schools and playgrounds.
Get out to a strip club today. You might see a live boobie for the first time since your mom weaned you.
HAHAHA good one Tendieman. Great self awareness. Put down the Nietzsche, you obviously don't understand it.
Let me guess, you unironically go around calling yourself an alpha male or an ubermensch?
No you weren't. You were posting from another account.
Go suck each other's dicks.
Rittenhouse walked because those fuckers were clearly attacking him. I saw the videos - the kid had every reason to be scared for his life. Whether or not he ever should have been there ins the first place is besides the point.
The dumb fucks who chased down Arbery, OTOH, were in no fear for their lives. Further they didn't even have confirmed evidence that the kid had committed a felony, which is the minimum predicate for a citizens arrest in GA. Yet they chased him down, cornered him after that extended pursuit and finally, when he was trapped and tried to fight back, they killed him.
Two different sets of circumstances, each independently evaluated by a jury, yielded two different results. This is our justice system operating as it should, whether you like the results or not.
I'm flattered that you think I'm too good to be true, but it is indeed a real picture of my boobs. You're just mad I called you out for having another alias on here and for having no friends or family.
So, go away, Cacaplop.
But I'll keep coming back to any thread where Nina posts, because I like her boobs.
Boobs are great.
I've never met Nina and probably never will. But other long-time users here have met her in person. None have reported that her images are fake. So, either she's for real or has a stunt double with great tits.
Either way, her avatar image is fun to look at.
Keep dancing for us, boobza boy!
Boy, are you going to be surprised when you find out that this site has a lot of guys who like strip clubs (and strippers). Liking or disliking someone based on appearance is pretty much the one thing we all have on our LinkedIn.
But the reality is that even if I disagree with Nina occasionally, I still enjoy her posts here. And not just because of her fantastic boobs.
But her boobs are fantastic...
Anywho, if you want to keep posting the 'something something subhuman' stuff, keep at it. But know that no one is taking you seriously.
If you can't get behind that, then I don't even want to know you.
Go away, Cacaplop.