Strip Club Lessons About Women

This was a good read.

I didn't have the heart to keep trying to see Cathy. I was there and she spoke to me once more, but I had moved on.

Today I might have been able to have gotten her into bed on that night of first meeting, or at least the second. But back then I was not thinking that way, just going for her telephone number, not thinking much beyond that.

Now I know, you don't start stuff unless you intend to follow through with it.

So what makes me different from other strip club customers.

1. I don't treat the women like hookers or like vending machines.

2. I don't drink, smoke, or use drugs.

3. I've never gone along with the concept of extras. That is, there may be physical intimacy, but that is not an extra, not something being specifically paid for. Money may be exchanged, but that is just a show of respect and consideration. The expectation of money is what makes it possible for the girl to be there, but it is not to induce her to do anything she wouldn't otherwise be perfectly happy to do.

4. Tend not to go for ejaculation services, like BBBJ till completion or LDKing. If I like the girl I will want DFKing, DATYing, and FS. If it is not to happen right there, then maybe soon outside. At least she will see that I am saving my load for her. Some preliminary BJ is okay, but till completion is best saved for sometime later when I have regular access to her pussy.

5. Don't care what most of the girls look like, because I will be deciding which I like and approaching her myself. The others then don't matter.

SJG

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^^ yiu know what makes you different than other strip club members? You prefer to spend time chasing the fatties, the strippers that very few people want to bed, so then you make yourself feel like a ladies man covering up your shortcomings, because no organization was ever built on sub par stripper grade fatties draining you dry 24-7. That’s the real reason your organization is still at one person, you!

As a sc hobbyist vip gives many opportunities feel hot girls and fuk a few of them. I had a blonde x cl as sb met at club for over 10 yes. Fuked her a lot.

ALso, I have never been really judgmental about what women look like. Rather, I look for the girl that I can see myself relating to. And I am also very moved by how she is dressed and painted up.

Of those who live on mood altering chemicals, no I don't like that.

When I approach a girl, it is because I like her, and so all possibilities are open. She is not just a vending machine or a Fembot.

SJG

^^ so your relate best with fat and Hulu women? That’s who you select to reinforce your ladies man persona? That’s setting the bar at a low level SJGoatfucker!

^^ Hulu can be code for unattractive. San Jose has that kind of standard for his harem of women for his sex cult of one, he and rosy palm!

My second story is about Irma at the Sunnyvale Brass Rail. Again, most of the girls there seemed a little bit too case hardened for me. But Irma was a Latina lovely. Looked so good in black high heels and yellow two piece bathing suit.

She had an older sister who had danced there for 12 years.

So I approached Irma and as is the custom, soon she was sitting with me having a drink. We talked for about 1 hour.

Back in those days I was not really understanding of her need to be getting sitting tip money from me because by sitting with me she was missing out on drink serving tips.

And this was before cell phones so women were still slower about giving out phone numbers.

And by this time, I was married and it was not working well and I was not enjoying it.

I talked to Irma in a completely civilian manner. I don't think she did OTC.

She wanted to see me outside. But she said it would take a few days. I think now this was about AuntFlo visiting.

She declined to give out her phone number, but she said she would call me. I had given her my work phone number.

Then about 4 days later she did call. I picked up the phone and there she was. At my work place that would not be really so cool. Mostly male company and other married guys were not fooling around, and our bosses would not approve. So I freaked and I told her to call me back.

She never forgave me for this, would never talk to me again, except once when I got her sister on the Brass Rail telephone and the sister got her.

My experience was really only with college girls, not bar girls. And being married and seeing it as a nightmare, I did not know that to do.

But I learned, you have to have things thought through and you have to be ready to finish what you start. These women can be gotten to. But you can't just be pulling their chains, you have to mean what you say and you can't then disappoint them. Dancers in strip clubs get money thrown at them and they get guys drooling over them. But they are still very sensitive and sometimes actually quite immature in ordinary relationships. So you have to be careful and you have to have what you intend thought out.

And generally I don't think it good to try and cheat on a spouse or an SO.

But the women in strip clubs are not out of your social reach. Often they are actually quite lonely women.

SJG

I reflect on this narrative of the experiences with Irma. One thing is clear, by the time that I was married I did not have anywhere near enough experience with women. And I mean post college experience. College was weird. I did not understand this at the time, but it was. So I needed more post college experience with women, before I could be ready to stand my own ground and deal with the outside influence threats in a marriage.

Second, I was not set up at all for philandering. And I do not recommend this either. It really doesn't solve any problems. It would make problems

Third, one of the things which probably pushed Irma over the edge and made her mad at me, was that by my startled reaction to her phone call at my work place, she had to have gotten the feeling that I was not comfortable with her calling me at work, and that that meant that she was not someone who I would have wanted to be seen with by my coworkers.

I reflect back to the above interactions with Cathy at the Brass Rail. At that time I told a friend about this, "girl from the Brass Rail", and he took a very negative attitude towards it.

Same would have been true with Irma and my co-workers. They would have looked down on me even if I were not married. And that I was married, it would have been far worse for me.

The old adage is that at the office, "A young man will be looked down upon if he is seen consorting with a girl that he would not want to marry."

And these guys were frat boy types. Sure they do transgressive things, they even organized bachelor parties and had pictures. But they do that kind of stuff in order to look cool in front of their peers, in order to gain approval.

Nothing of the sort was on the table with Cathy and I or with Irma and I.

And that in each case it ended up with the girl being angry with me, shows that they did not see it as anything like P4P. I was making an on the level advance and they took it that way and that is why they engaged so openly.

For myself, I guess I did see both Cathy and Irma as being of a lower social class than myself. And this was part of why I was both curious about them and leary of them. This was also because I was trying to find my own way, and I wasn't really sure what that would be.

It's not just that I lost opportunities when I was married. It was that I did not have the worldly experience needed to be able to stand up for myself in the face of the meat grinder which marriage can be.

SJG

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^ Tomorrow instead of the library, head over to a strip club, so you can touch a real live girl, it'll make you feel much better I promise.

You trolls act like you own the world. I maintain strict privacy, but you still disregard this and try to build siege scaffolds. You are the people who inhibit constructive discussions with your nonsense.

How about even one of you having something constructive to post that furthers the discussion?

SJG

You trolls, who exactly are you talking about ?

Keep looking in the mirror 25.

SJG

Really I'm nice to you, and you call me a troll, I'm so hurt

@SJG,

"I maintain strict privacy, but you still disregard this and try to build siege scaffolds."

LOL whatever, man.

You LIKE the attention to your "F2F" life, because for someone with so much going on, evidence of your F2F incompetence abounds. No internet for a year-plus in Silicon Valley. Can't post outside of public library hours. Lo-o-o-o-o-o-oooong conversations with oneself, in which you link everything you've seen on the internet that day. Won't someone talk to me about sex magick...pweeeeeeeze?

Fact is, any reference to your F2F life gets an overreaction usually seen only when a 2-year-old's sense of self is threatened. Graphic threats to boil us in oil, blow our heads off, or "exterminate" us don't make us fearful, they just make you look like a bellowing retard.

Imaginary enemies here make you feel important. It lets you indulge Walter Mitty fantasies of being a CIA operative, of being magnetic and interesting, when you have 100+ post conversations with yourself because no one cares. There's nothing new or interesting about the way you do it, either.

You don't have enemies here for the same reason you don't have friends. Because you are tedious, repetitive, and maladjusted. We just like getting a rise out of you, because it's so reliably entertaining. Like you'll respond to this.

There are no "siege scaffolds" because even with a privacy wall thicker than Icey's head, there's nothing of interest within the walls.

Again, I maintain strict privacy, but some idiots still want to try and build siege scaffolds.

SJG

^ nope

^ Go away, Cacaplop

Thanks SlaveBoss.

Privacy of F2F life is a very simple concept Tetradon.

F2F it can be very easily enforced.

SJG

^ Until someone installs keyloggers at the library

Trying to build siege scaffolding, what a fucking idiot.

F2F you would be dealt with, except for the fact that you are a zombie.

You can still be dealt with.

F2F privacy. F2F it can be enforced.

Here, well.

SirLapDance, fired from his nuclear power plant security job because they caught him masturbating in the control room.

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So now he has to go to the Unemployment Office everyday. He doesn't feel he can spend money at strip clubs.

And then his wife, she still ties his shoes every morning. But she watched the money closer than ever.

So stepping out of a Resume Writing Workshop, SLD goes into the Men's Room and into the toilet stall. He is looking at TUSCL. And he is looking in the dancer directory.

Then he remembers, the best pics are always the ones uploaded by SJG.

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Only one hand free to hold his cell phone.

SJG

This is not f2f. I will post somethings here, but that is because I am the one who decides where to draw the line.

Don't like it? Go find someone to talk to in a bar. F2F you would be made to learn to respect my privacy SLD.

SJG

My 3rd Strip Club Lesson About Women:

The other two stories were about real women in real strip clubs. This one though was entirely in something I read. I think it was Gallery Magazine. This woman who wrote the article had been a sociology graduate student. She decided to spend a summer working in a strip club. So to get the job she had to take her clothes off in the owner's office.

At our clubs here they don't do that. They audition in front of a real audience and they keep the tips they get.

So she started. And quickly she found that she was having to field P4P invitations continuously. And this was exactly the Cathy of my first story was in effect telling me, "You don't understand, I get hit on by 50 guys a night."

So this woman worked their and contended with this, then as she described it, a nicely dressed man indicated that he wanted to spend the night with her. She was elated. She was bored and lonely and no one had offered her anything like that since she had been working there.

So she was fully ready. Then he said, "By the way, what's the rate?"

She explained that right away something snapped in her. Whereas she had envisioned a night in a hotel room, now she envisioned being cramped into the back seat of a car. She was extremely irritated.

SJG

Do You Feel Like I Do youtube.com

@SLD that's the main thing I notice with SJG. He every so often recalls the same exact stories that happened so long ago. And based on those experiences he's come up with his scheme of how to get strippers to come home with him and in his own words "pump load after load into them".

Which would be cool if he actually tried these schemes out to see if they really work. Instead we get no accounts of that. Only the same regurgitated stories from decades past. And if you ask him about any of his recent strip club visits then it's the same ass privacy wall comment. Oh but he has no problems sharing all the stories of his visits from way in the past?

Fucking clown attacking sjg for reminiscing yhe 1990s. So go troll everyone constantly bringing up memories from the 1970s on here 🤡 yall are sick in the head

Hey Iceefag Fuck you you are the most prolific troll on this site, in two years with just your last two aliases you have close to 4000 posts not a single one with anything decent to say so go and fuck your bigoted opinionated self.

I read the first post in this discussion. I also read a few of SJG’s follow up posts, and it seems like a somewhat normal guy’s initiation to strip clubbing.

How did he move from a few reasonable encounters with strippers to creating a bizarre sex cult? It seems like a huge jump.

Granted, I’m sure Michael Douglas’ character in Falling Down wasn’t always a sociopath either.

I think strip clubs are one of the last places in society where human nature is allowed to freely express itself. Under the facade of fantasy you find some of the most realness in human interactions.

@Icee no one minds that SJG reminisces about his times in the 90s. For me I just wonder why he's so willing to share about those strip club visits in the 90s, but if you ask him about his recent visits he gets all butthurt acting like you're trying to invade his privacy.

"but if you ask him about his recent visits he gets all butthurt acting like you're trying to invade his privacy"

TFP, you don't seem to like my defense of my privacy.

Well consider this bit cranked in turn by turn, all the way, until it disappears in your rectum.

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And SirCircleJerkalot:

All this hot air you are venting is being generated by self digestion. Go back into your grave, pull the coffin lid shut, and let the processes of decomposition run their course. Stop leaving your liquifying remains on my threads.

SJG

If you were in front of me right now you would be crying out, "I respect SJG's privacy...I respect SJG's privacy...I respect SJG's privacy..."

SJG

^ If he were in front of you, your Great Wall of Privacy would have, by definition, failed...

Except that in that case it wouldn't matter because he would be getting his Final Rebuke.

SJG

I'm sure he's quaking in his boots.

Typical SJG response. Another hypothetical threat talking about stuff that would never happen.

@Slaveboss I know you're an uber SJG loving troll but I'll still answer your questions. Obviously that's not my ass in my avatar, if that was a dude's ass I'd feel violated. Like that prank on YouTube where a dude wears leggings and bends over in the park. When a guy walks by and checks him out he turns around and and says 'why you looking at my ass man, are you gay?'

And yeah, thong tan lines are hot as fuck! But the only place I've been where I see girls regularly sport those is in Mexico at those clubs in TJ.

As for your request of having the dancer remove her fake eyelashes, why don't you give that a shot and report back here what response you get? I remember a couple girls asking me if I wanted a dance, I declined. When they asked why I told them I prefer thongs or g-strings rather than the panties they were wearing. Some would actually retort that they'd go and change into a thong for me. All I could think was, damn, business must be slow today.

@SLD nah, panties aren't a deal breaker. Truth be told it was the most honest, non hurtful rejection I could think of without just bluntly saying "you're not my type".

F2F a zombie can soak up an awful lot of buck shot.

SJG

^ From above

"Fact is, any reference to your F2F life gets an overreaction usually seen only when a 2-year-old's sense of self is threatened. Graphic threats to boil us in oil, blow our heads off, or "exterminate" us don't make us fearful, they just make you look like a bellowing retard."

My F2F life is private. F2F I would use any necessary means to defend it. There is nothing the Central Intelligence Agency has ever done which I would not also do.

We have here some people who don't seem to know how to do anything except trying to attack the privacy of my F2F life. I am not going to tolerate this. No one would tolerate it F2F, and I would not either. You guys are just taking advantage of this forum by using it for your idiotic nonsense.

SJG

^ yawn

This is online, its not a bar. I can post about somethings when I think it will help foster constructive communications. But I am the one who decides where to draw the line. The line is what it says within the 4 corners of my post.

You SLD want to keep trying to build siege scaffolds to attack the privacy of my f2f life. F2F I would respond so that you could not do that anymore.

Go back to your grave. Stop leaving your putrid entrails on my threads. You drive decent people off of this board.

SJG

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"But I am the one who decides where to draw the line. The line is what it says within the 4 corners of my post."

Actually that's Founder.

You are just another denizen.

Founder is a good buy because he lets people speak their peace.

I decide where what I post ends, and where the privacy of my f2f life begins, and it is at the 4 corners of my posts.

SJG

^^ when was the last time yiu went i dude a club LLoyd?

SLD, as a zombie you are even worse than when you were alive.

SJG

Layla youtube.com

I have told 3 narratives. Now I am waiting until you go back to your grave and pull the lid shut on your coffin before I continue.

SJG

SLD, my face to face life is private. That pretty much means anything which goes beyond the 4 corners of my post.

SJG

My F2F life is absolutely private and that is not negotiable.

Sometimes I will make a judgement call and disclose something, but that is as far as it goes, the 4 corners of my post.

So if you want someone you can pick at and troll, I suggest you go somewhere else and find someone else.

SJG

I am not going to let you or anyone build siege scaffolds to try and attack the privacy of my F2F life. So the boundaries will always be very simple, the 4 corners of my posts.

Stop dumping your putrid entrails on this thread!

SJG

^ Admit it, @SJG, you aren't here to talk women, strip clubs, or anything like that.

You're here to rant and rave, to offer tiny glimpses into your private life as an excuse to lash out and threaten when someone probes. It gives your little life meaning.

And it's so tied to your self worth that at any threat to your access, you brown nose the shit out of Founder.

Newsflash, Lloyd, if you don't want anyone here talking about your precious f2f life, just don't talk about it. Plenty of us don't, and in not doing so, keep a privacy wall you couldn't dream of. What's my name? What city do I live in? What do I do for work or fun beyond strip clubs?

But that isn't what you really want. You want the conflict even while you claim to want civility, because the goings on of this board are all you have in life. You endlessly catalog old threads and bump your own because this is all you got.

Outside of fellow bad actors like Icey and Cacaplop, no one here supports you. You're just boring.

Tetradon, none of you guys would get away with doing this to anyone f2f, not me, not anyone else.

THe fact that you do it here just means that you have no respect for this forum. And if you think I am boring, just put me on ignore. That would be a big improvement.

SJG

^ The fact that I point out the motives behind your behavior, LOL.

If you don't want anyone curious about your F2F life, why not just shut up about it?

Again, SLD, trying to build siege scaffolds. F2F you would not get away with this for one minute.

SJG

@SJG, if I met you F2F, I'd buy you a drink and a FRBBBJOYH (front room bareback blowjob on your Huffy)

SLD and Tetradon, my F2F life is private and the line is exactly where I draw it, which is in the 4 corners of my posts. Go find someone else to pester, though if you try this kind of stuff f2f you won't last long.

SJG

@SJG, after your FRBBBJOYH, I would buy you TLNITBROTHSWYL (toda la Noche in the back room of the homeless shelter where you live), or possibly a BBBFITROTSJPL (bare back buttfuck in the restroom of the San Jose public library).

And your girl would say "oh San Jose Guy, bend me over that privacy wall and screw my brains out!"

Again, trying to get over my privacy wall by constructing siege scaffolds. F2F I would not tolerate this and nor would anyone else.

You disrespect this forum and all of its members by posting such things.

SJG

Trolladon what do you get out of trolling a strip club forum with alt right bs and attacking members?

@SJG, F2F I'm a pretty chill dude, though I don't suffer fools anywhere. After you bent the girl I got you over your privacy wall and screwed her brains out, I'd get you... Maybe a Coke and a couple taquitos from 7/11.

Private means private. Simple concept, simple to enforce.

SJG

SLD, my F2F life is private, you know nothing about me, and that is by design.

Go back to your grave and pull your coffin lid shut.

SJG

SLD, You would never get to go on challenging someone's privacy f2f, you know what would happen to you. Though I guess you could then turn into a zombie.

SJG

And here we always have guys getting busted in the toilet stalls of the Unemployment Office for masturbating to images on their cell phones.

I guess that with just Unemployment money, they can't afford to be LDKing at strip clubs anymore.

Maybe at a minimum they still have a wife who will tie their shoes for them.

SJG

But you are self digesting to get the biochemical energy to walk around. You are dead.

SJG

SirLDAlot - I appreciate your analysis and research regarding SJG. I have not gone back so far, to understand his mental affliction. It has been a decline in cognitive function over time, and it is sad to see his current state of delusion.

Speaking of declines in cognitive abilities I feel bad for skibum and 20 fag too.

And when it comes to mental illness yeah I hope sircumsinhispantsalot and trolladon get help for their schizophrenic ocd.

Laughing at Iceefag is a normal reaction who takes a wannabe Pimp who tries to commit suicide over his whore seriously What a strange weirdo lol

Icey suffers from mental retardation, which is currently untreatable, but with therapy and education one can live a full life.

Icey bruh, you're just a little kid wanna be. It's okay.

^ I don't know, man, Icey's combination of leftist talking points and factual and logical error speaks to what passes for a college education in much of the country. Not to mention playing the victim when called out.

I maintain he's a short buser.

To be able to talk about sensitive personal things there needs to be some civility, and especially respect for the privacy limits, the four corners of the post.

SJG

SLD, you know nothing about me. All you are is a zombie. Stop dropping your putrid flesh on my threads or on this board. Go back to your grave.

SJG

^^^ You are only spewing your garbage to try and build a siege scaffold to attack my privacy. You make up nonsense and post it and some people might believe it. I don't care what people believe, but you post so much garbage that you make it impossible to maintain any topical continuity. You saturate this forum with your idiocy.

F2f I would deal with you quickly and decisively, as would anyone else. Your posting is disrespect to this forum.

SJG

And the tour de farce continues

It bears repeating.

@SJG,

"I maintain strict privacy, but you still disregard this and try to build siege scaffolds."

LOL whatever, man.

You LIKE the attention to your "F2F" life, because for someone with so much going on, evidence of your F2F incompetence abounds. No internet for a year-plus in Silicon Valley. Can't post outside of public library hours. Lo-o-o-o-o-o-oooong conversations with oneself, in which you link everything you've seen on the internet that day. Won't someone talk to me about sex magick...pweeeeeeeze?

Fact is, any reference to your F2F life gets an overreaction usually seen only when a 2-year-old's sense of self is threatened. Graphic threats to boil us in oil, blow our heads off, or "exterminate" us don't make us fearful, they just make you look like a bellowing retard.

Imaginary enemies here make you feel important. It lets you indulge Walter Mitty fantasies of being a CIA operative, of being magnetic and interesting, when you have 100+ post conversations with yourself because no one cares. There's nothing new or interesting about the way you do it, either.

You don't have enemies here for the same reason you don't have friends. Because you are tedious, repetitive, and maladjusted. We just like getting a rise out of you, because it's so reliably entertaining. Like you'll respond to this.

There are no "siege scaffolds" because even with a privacy wall thicker than Icey's head, there's nothing of interest within the walls.

^ LOL, this board's bad actors, non-contributors, and freaks stick together.

You haven't logged on under your other alter egos for a while, Cacaplop. They're spoiling for a fight.

^ @Lesco_Brandon? @Sera? @Cedrick? Anything to say to your Cacaplop alter ego?

Now, this thread has gotten badly derailed, so I am pulling it back on track.

I started posting about two early strip club experiences. Then I posted about an article I read, and I want to post about my reaction to it.

So here, I repeat my post about the article:

" My 3rd Strip Club Lesson About Women:

The other two stories were about real women in real strip clubs. This one though was entirely in something I read. I think it was Gallery Magazine. This woman who wrote the article had been a sociology graduate student. She decided to spend a summer working in a strip club. So to get the job she had to take her clothes off in the owner's office.

At our clubs here they don't do that. They audition in front of a real audience and they keep the tips they get.

So she started. And quickly she found that she was having to field P4P invitations continuously. And this was exactly the Cathy of my first story was in effect telling me, "You don't understand, I get hit on by 50 guys a night."

So this woman worked there and contended with this, then as she described it, a nicely dressed man indicated that he wanted to spend the night with her. She was elated. She was bored and lonely and no one had offered her anything like that since she had been working there.

So she was fully ready. Then he said, "By the way, what's the rate?"

She explained that right away something snapped in her. Whereas she had envisioned a night in a hotel room, now she envisioned being cramped into the back seat of a car. She was extremely irritated. "

So now I offer some interpretation. I saw in the article what I knew to be true from real life. Most women don't like to be offered P4P gigs. It's not that they don't like money or that they don't necessarily like the guy doing the offering. Rather it's that they see what is being implied in the offer as an insult. And guy doing the offering is offering money because he doesn't really want to open himself to them. He doesn't want to face the possibility of rejection, and he doesn't want them coming around afterwards. So money is supposed to handle that.

And this jibes with what I had experienced with Kathy and Irma. Kathy only opened herself up to me when she realized that I was like 1 in 1000 of the guys she dealt with, I was not offering money. And Irma really opened up right off when it was clear to her that I was not offering money. And they both were quite easily angered when I seemed to be unwilling to follow through with what I had started. So they were not seeing me as just a P4P offer.

Generally women are open and available, even if they do work in strip clubs and get money thrown at them. But if you treat them like prostitutes that puts it in a totally different category. More about this later.

Now in posting this I have to give this caveat. My F2F life is private. I can post somethings here because this is online and so I am the one who decides where to draw the line. So I don't take questions. If I had wanted you to know more about me, I would have posted it.

There are some entities here, the zombie SirLapDance, and the wraith Tetradon, they insist that they have the right to comment on affairs of my F2F life. And they insist that they know stuff about me. In doing this they are simply trying to build siege scaffolds for attacking my privacy.

My affairs are carefully guarded and things are going to stay this way. So they do not know anything. I am not going to respond to them and I ask you not to listen to them. They are not promoting constructive discussion. They are shitting on this forum and its members. I would not allow them to get away with this face to face and no one else would either. They are only here because they have their own problems and they see online as a place to act out.

So I ask you to disregard them as I am.

SJG

SJG

Patti Austin, Satin Dolls youtube.com

Extreme Heels tuscl.net

So why does SJG only post 6 days a week instead of all 7?

"There are some entities here, the zombie SirLapDance, and the wraith Tetradon, they insist that they have the right to comment on affairs of my F2F life. And they insist that they know stuff about me. In doing this they are simply trying to build siege scaffolds for attacking my privacy."

@SJG,

"I maintain strict privacy, but you still disregard this and try to build siege scaffolds."

LOL whatever, man.

You LIKE the attention to your "F2F" life, because for someone with so much going on, evidence of your F2F incompetence abounds. No internet for a year-plus in Silicon Valley. Can't post outside of public library hours. Lo-o-o-o-o-o-oooong conversations with oneself, in which you link everything you've seen on the internet that day. Won't someone talk to me about sex magick...pweeeeeeeze?

Fact is, any reference to your F2F life gets an overreaction usually seen only when a 2-year-old's sense of self is threatened. Graphic threats to boil us in oil, blow our heads off, or "exterminate" us don't make us fearful, they just make you look like a bellowing retard.

Imaginary enemies here make you feel important. It lets you indulge Walter Mitty fantasies of being a CIA operative, of being magnetic and interesting, when you have 100+ post conversations with yourself because no one cares. There's nothing new or interesting about the way you do it, either.

You don't have enemies here for the same reason you don't have friends. Because you are tedious, repetitive, and maladjusted. We just like getting a rise out of you, because it's so reliably entertaining. Like you'll respond to this.

There are no "siege scaffolds" because even with a privacy wall thicker than Icey's head, there's nothing of interest within the walls.

So SJG doesn't take questions, yet I see him all day everyday asking other posters questions about their club visits, particularly TJ visits. "Did you get her warmed up with a front room makeover session?". "Were you able to get her number and arrange a meeting outside the club?". Not sure why he thinks it's ok for him to ask questions, but for questions to him it's an attack on his privacy. What a shitty double standard.

Now, this thread still draws trolling. It seems to be narrowing down though to just one zombie, self-digesting and decomposing as he is typing.

My 4th Strip Club Lesson About Women:

This is about a woman I knew from the Sunnyvale Hip Hugger, and about an outside encounter with her. She was Vietnamese and I will alter her name to "May".

Now this actually all occurred before I read the above mentioned article.

I had been seeing May frequently at the Hip Hugger. This club was strict no touching. Girls and the stage were behind the bar. So it was more of a talking club. I was conveying money to her, but in that kind of club the money isn't really that much. May and I got along well. She told me that she cut hair at the Super Cuts at a nearby mall.

So at a point, I went to the mall and she cut my hair.

I forget the exact sequence of events about this, but I at one point had a second girl cut my hair another week.

But I ended up one day with May when she was getting off at the Super Cuts.

Now this was the most unstructured situation I had been in with her. She insisted that I take her to lunch at this fast food place inside of the mall. It was like she just made this idea up on the spot. So I did. It did feel a little bit strange, like she was trying to force me to spend money on her for no reason. Then she insisted I take her to a second sit down restaurant and spend more money on her. This felt strange to me too, but I did it.

She did not want to engage in any kinds of physical friendliness, the very things which are prohibited at the Hip Hugger. She said that she did not want me to look down on her because she was a "Go Go Dancer".

And she kept telling me about her plans to do some bachelor parties.

Now I had never heard her talk about such parties before. She said she had never done any before, but she was going to start, and that she was "scared".

Now in years which followed I heard girls talk about much such parties. The parties are real, but sometimes the reason the girl is talking about such things is as a code for doing P4P OTC. Such parties are only occasional. But a girl can try to get P4P OTC with any one guy who is willing.

In my view, this is what May was doing, trying to get me to see her as a P4P provider, whether or not she had ever been such before. And this was why she wanted to get me into the habit of spending money on her, and this is why she did not want to engage in any physical friendliness.

She was telling me she was going to do a bachelor party. I knew this likely meant she getting pawed and penetrated by a bunch of drunken idiots. Bachelor parties and their denizens have never made a good impression on me. Some people I worked with had these. Gave me a strange feeling coming from the girl with me in the car. And then she did not currently want any physicality with me. But she wanted some kind of P4P with me, though she was not coming out and saying it.

Now, how does this fit with my earlier two stories about strip club women, and with the article about the dancer. With these three, not seeing her as P4P was the crucial matter in getting along with her.

Why was May different about this?

Well for one thing, with the other two women, that was the first time I had met them. No one else at the club would have mentioned me to them. So I was not a PL, I was not probably cheating on a spouse. For another, May might have at least intellectually crossed over the P4P line already. With the SuperCuts and the Hip Hugger she was working hard to support herself.

I had seen her at the Hip Hugger for a long time. I had never tried to get her outside on any terms. I had never given her contact information, or been that descriptive about my outside life. So she reasonably assumed that I was a cheater.

I did consider in the week following renting a hotel room and calling May on the telephone number she gave me and trying to do OTC with her, and paying all customary costs.

I did not do this though because I felt like I would be going too far in cheating. Morally it wasn't worse than what I was doing on site with AMP girls. And even just taking May to lunch or spending time or money at the Hip Hugger was still cheating.

What I mean is, it was going further in terms of what could likely get me caught, and into serious trouble. I knew already that the greatest risk in cheating is if the outside woman starts to develop feelings and hopes. And then as most all of these things go, it eventually blows up and the outside woman becomes hurt and angry. I had resisted this when AMP girls had wanted to be my mistress. I knew that just the fact that she was getting money did not make it any less dangerous.

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So I did not go further in seeing May outside. Not too long after that I did decide to stop all strip club and AMP visits and stop anything else which was even intellectual cheating.

Now in posting this I have to again reiterate. My F2F life is private. I can post somethings here because this is online and so I am the one who decides where to draw the line. So I don't take questions. If I had wanted you to know more about me, I would have posted it.

There is likely to be a zombie who insists that he knows something about my private life and the he has the right to comment. All of his posting amounts to trying to build siege scaffolding so that he can attack my privacy.

My affairs are extremely well protected and things are going to stay this way. So this zombie does not know anything. I am not going to respond to him and I ask you not to listen to him. He is not promoting constructive discussion. He is dropping his decomposing flesh onto this forum and its members. A zombie can be hard to stop. They can soak up a lot of buck shot, but it still has to be done. This is why high temperature cremation is the recommended remedy. No matter what, no one would allow his attacks against them f2f.

SJG

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Cool story LLoyd Schoene!

Looks like the zombie attacks have been ended. So let me repeat my 4th story and then offer some additional interpretation.

My 4th Strip Club Lesson About Women:

This is about a woman I knew from the Sunnyvale Hip Hugger, and about an outside encounter with her. She was Vietnamese and I will alter her name to "May".

Now this actually all occurred before I read the above mentioned article.

I had been seeing May frequently at the Hip Hugger. This club was strict no touching. Girls and the stage were behind the bar. So it was more of a talking club. I was conveying money to her, but in that kind of club the money isn't really that much. May and I got along well. She told me that she cut hair at the Super Cuts at a nearby mall.

So at a point, I went to the mall and she cut my hair.

I forget the exact sequence of events about this, but I at one point had a second girl cut my hair another week.

But I ended up one day with May when she was getting off at the Super Cuts.

Now this was the most unstructured situation I had been in with her. She insisted that I take her to lunch at this fast food place inside of the mall. It was like she just made this idea up on the spot. So I did. It did feel a little bit strange, like she was trying to force me to spend money on her for no reason. Then she insisted I take her to a second sit down restaurant and spend more money on her. This felt strange to me too, but I did it.

She did not want to engage in any kinds of physical friendliness, the very things which are prohibited at the Hip Hugger. She said that she did not want me to look down on her because she was a "Go Go Dancer".

And she kept telling me about her plans to do some bachelor parties.

Now I had never heard her talk about such parties before. She said she had never done any before, but she was going to start, and that she was "scared".

Now in years which followed I heard girls talk about much such parties. The parties are real, but sometimes the reason the girl is talking about such things is as a code for doing P4P OTC. Such parties are only occasional. But a girl can try to get P4P OTC with any one guy who is willing.

In my view, this is what May was doing, trying to get me to see her as a P4P provider, whether or not she had ever been such before. And this was why she wanted to get me into the habit of spending money on her, and this is why she did not want to engage in any physical friendliness.

She was telling me she was going to do a bachelor party. I knew this likely meant she getting pawed and penetrated by a bunch of drunken idiots. Bachelor parties and their denizens have never made a good impression on me. Some people I worked with had these. Gave me a strange feeling coming from the girl with me in the car. And then she did not currently want any physicality with me. But she wanted some kind of P4P with me, though she was not coming out and saying it.

Now, how does this fit with my earlier two stories about strip club women, and with the article about the dancer. With these three, not seeing her as P4P was the crucial matter in getting along with her.

Why was May different about this?

Well for one thing, with the other two women, that was the first time I had met them. No one else at the club would have mentioned me to them. So I was not a PL, I was not probably cheating on a spouse. For another, May might have at least intellectually crossed over the P4P line already. With the SuperCuts and the Hip Hugger she was working hard to support herself.

I had seen her at the Hip Hugger for a long time. I had never tried to get her outside on any terms. I had never given her contact information, or been that descriptive about my outside life. So she reasonably assumed that I was a cheater.

I did consider in the week following renting a hotel room and calling May on the telephone number she gave me and trying to do OTC with her, and paying all customary costs.

I did not do this though because I felt like I would be going too far in cheating. Morally it wasn't worse than what I was doing on site with AMP girls. And even just taking May to lunch or spending time or money at the Hip Hugger was still cheating.

What I mean is, it was going further in terms of what could likely get me caught, and into serious trouble. I knew already that the greatest risk in cheating is if the outside woman starts to develop feelings and hopes. And then as most all of these things go, it eventually blows up and the outside woman becomes hurt and angry. I had resisted this when AMP girls had wanted to be my mistress. I knew that just the fact that she was getting money did not make it any less dangerous.

imdb.com

So I did not go further in seeing May outside. Not too long after that I did decide to stop all strip club and AMP visits and stop anything else which was even intellectual cheating.

So let me now offer a bit more interpretation.

Why, outside of the HipHugger, was May trying to communicate to me that she wanted me to be giving her money to engage with her? Was that really all she saw me as was a source of P4P money?

Well, if that was all she wanted, I would have heard about it, long before, all the times I interacted with her at the Hip Hugger.

No, I never came forth with real identity or contact information. She could tell the most obvious that I was married. So she was giving me another way of engaging with her, and safely, via P4P. She would want this money just as a show of respect, me not thinking that she could be moved on with no commitment.

Maybe if I came forward with full disclosure and car keys and wallet date offer, she would have accepted. But that was not in the cards, what she saw was correct that I was married and just dallying with her. So, money would be in order.

I did not go this way with her, I wanted to stay on safer territory and I still wanted to make my marriage work. But I did learn from the experience with her that day outside the Hip Hugger.

SJG

"Looks like the zombie attacks have been ended."

Or your F2F life is just not that interesting.

I am not a professional entertainer.

SJG

^ And for that, we all thank you.

She wanted the money...

That was not her real interest in me. She was just giving me, someone who was obviously married, an alternate way of engaging with her.

If it was really about P4P money I would have heard about it in all the times I visited her at the HipHugger.

SJG

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But it was contingent on money being exchanged for her services.

So what did anyone learn from this?