Other outlets for sexual energy besides the strip club

Tinder, escorts, AMPs...

Does Tinder actually work and what is an AMP?

If you drop your standards and are reasonably good looking, Tinder can scratch the itch.

AMP is adult massage parlor. Half the Asian ones are staffed by sex slaves with their passports stolen though.

When in a pinch, there's always internet porn and hand lotion.

If you're just looking, Twin Peaks or Hooters.

Tetradon - I always thought AMP was Asian Massage Parlor even though you might rarely find a caucasian there.
I guess Adult Massage Parlor more accurately describes what I'm looking for.

If you're looking for in-person, then it's escorts and seeking [dot] com.

The massage parlors are fairly popular, and can actually be more affordable since you're not buying drinks or tipping the dollar train. But for me, the only time I go is to see a girl I know who quit stripping and now works at a MP full time. She's truly my ATF and I like having a full hour of uninterrupted time, without the hassle of renting a motel room and then coordinating the meet-up. Plus there's a shower room where we go to clean up after our session, or sometimes move the session into the shower! Lol

I always make arrangements a day in advance - directly with her via phone or text. When I get there I text and she meets me at the door and takes me straight to the room. Then she walks me back out when we're done. I'm not a fan of dealing with MP management. I dunno, to me it would feel too much like a pimp/prostitute situation and spoil the mood for me.

Only once did I go on a whim, when she had moved to the west coast for like a year. Decided to just drop in. Ended up with a nice girl that looked great. But she wouldn't do some of the stuff I enjoy with my regular girl and the whole process just wasn't my thing. I'm really glad she came back.

Plenty of free porn on the internet. :)

There's two other things I really enjoy:
1. Sugar (Seeking Arrangements): This is much higher effort than going to a strip club, if what you're pursuing is an actual arrangement, since it tends to be a longer-term thing. Some guys just use it like an alternative way to find escorts though.

2. Sensual massage (FBSM): this is lower effort than going to a strip club. You know in advance exactly what you'll get each time: a sensual massage (sometimes very skilled, CMT quality) and a handjob (sometimes an incredibly good one). You know exactly who you'll be doing it with ,since you'll schedule with her directly. And you know she'll show up, there's no stripper-type flakiness. It's just a handjob with standard FBSM, but some girls advertising FBSM+ also do BJs


Things I'm not interested in
1. Escorts. Just haven't ever really gotten into them.

2. AMPs. Haven't done this myself, but have buddies who have, and have read about it plenty of AMP forums, and nothing about the experience interests me. Although AMPs seem vaguely similar to FBSM, AMPs are often run more similar to a big group of Asian escorts working out of the same place. FBSM girls are usually independent, and often work on ambiance, really making sure the sensual part is amazing, etc -- which of course they have to since they're only doing HJs

Some guys on here are into the sugar-daddy thing (Seeking.com) but it takes some work to find the right sugar-baby so you don't end up scammed or with pennies-on-the-dollar

Escorts, just too to get ripped off by escorts for me.

AMP by the way you guys describe it sounds morally questionable.

How rich are these sugar babies expecting on this site? =0

Yes internet porn is another thing I am sick.

You won't get ripped off by escorts if you go to the usual review sites to sort the good from the bad.

How much you're going to spend on a sugar baby is going to vary wildly based on where you are, what sort of arrangement you're looking for, and (of course) how hot she is. This isn't always true, but you'll probably spend a little bit more money with sugar babies, and you'll definitely spend more time before the sexy fun time happens.

Maybe you just need to go to a different strip club.

Well then how about Chippendales?

My best experiences as a geriatric trick have been in a grey area between escorting and sugaring. With most sex workers, the first time is the last time. You need to be a regular to reliably scratch the itch. I am so safe it's embarrassing. I have no interest in a sex worker I can't be safe with without a bouncer around. So anywhere besides her place or mine is a waste of money. So far, I've only gotten there with escorts and strippers who do OTC. But with big gaps between these relationships, they are not easy to find, at least not in the places I've lived. Tried the sugaring websites a bit, but no luck. I want to just give her money when I see her, I'm not down with making a hard commitment to so much per week/month. I've tried to give them a head's up about being out of town or changes in my $ situation with as much notice as possible. I don't want to be her only or primary source of income.

Massage parlors seem like they could be good in principle. I've never lived near one that I didn't hear bad things about, or had a bad experience in. If the women are all immigrants and/or all from the same country/area, seems like a big red flag. Like when a business with white managers but all the employees are Mexicans with limited English. Must be fucked up working conditions of some sort if no one else wants to work there.

Also note, you can easily waste a grand or two on bad experiences, looking for the top geriatric trick experiences.

For FBSM, I'm with Jesus, better to give than to receive.

Cue the jokes about me being into Hispanic guys with nice mustaches.

Could try wife or girlfriend.

Is it allowed to say that here? 🤷

gsteph what are you crazy?!

@Steph- Funny I was thinking the same thing. When all the other options started sounding so difficult, I was thinking about just coming home with flowers and a bottle of wine and hitting up my wife for a change.

Seeking.com and Tijuana are basically the two TUSCL approved recreational activities

Ya, already tried the wife.

Why do you think I go to strip clubs?

I think Tinder can work in some places, like Las Vegas. But I'd be skeptical of anyone on tinder asking for money to do anything but keep asking for money.

Escorts... Recent laws buried advertising in many places and can make it a gamble.

SA has worked before while travelling. Especially in Las Vegas. But then I stopped traveling and decided the membership wasn't worth it.

AMPs are a a crap shoot in my area. A lot of them you'll get that itch scratched by a 60 year old korean grandma (hey, she'll pass for 40 with guys not used to asians). It's nice to know there's someplace you can reliably cum and go without any scheduling, but it's gotta be a really bad itch to get it scratched like that. It's pretty rare but every now and then you can find a looker...

Locally, there are a few private massage ladies. Blurring the lines between an AMP and an Escort... Apparently very common in Vancouver, CA and the Bay area... Girls are nicer looking, usually start with a light massage. Not as easy as walking up to get in.

Traveling, you never quite know what a club is going to be like before you show up, but reviews help, at least decided between multiple clubs in a strange area. But once you get there you're only risking cover charge that it's gonna suck, no worries about stings, big rip offs (still have to be careful, but she's probably not going to grab your wallet and run), pimps in the bathroom with a gun... If all the girls are ugly it's easy to leave without much loss.

In Vegas (or other bigger cities), does seeking.com have women on it who aren't the "I'm not a prostitute!" type? That always just seems to be code for "you give me steady money, and I'll play constant games to try and do as little as possible for you".

w.r.t. sugar-babies, my recollection is that guys on here do the PPM (pay per meet) thing vs providing an allowance.

Below are 2 TUSCL articles about sugaring:

https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=50497

https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=43211


You can also type Seeking.com or SeekingArrangements or sugaring or sugar daddy, etc, using the TUSCL search option, and see previous threads on the topic

If you're tired of strip clubs but not strippers, you can arrange OTC. I find OTC is more cost effective than in the club.

"w.r.t. sugar-babies, my recollection is that guys on here do the PPM (pay per meet) thing vs providing an allowance."

Right, probably 95% of SBs will accept a PPM versus demanding something like a monthly allowance; not common to run into an SB who won't. There's 99 reasons to not want to put all the effort into SA, but allowance isn't one of them, it's a non-issue

Girls

In Vegas, more so than anywhere else I've been, seeking.com is full of prostitutes. First message is "hi", second one asks for your phone number, and then the text hourly rates.

Not sure I need to pay $100 a month to find prostitutes in Vegas though....

I did manage to find a few who probably didn't thought of themselves as prostitutes, but were willing to fuck of a extra bit of cash, but wouldn't put an ad on an escort site.

AMPS = Asian Massage Parlor, the store front type.

Availability and quality vary widely according to where you are. Best to look on Rubmaps.

The best are as good as strip clubs. But many are far far less than this.

In San Francisco they have many AMPs, they are competing with strip clubs, and they have very little fear of LE, all making for the highest of quality. South Bay does not compare.

SJG

^^^^ IMHO, the best venues are always based on F2F first meetings, like Strip Clubs and AMPs, not on advertisements

SJG

Civvie night clubs have a lot going. As long as you can keep it within the PG-13 envelope, no one is going to object if you get a girl into a FRMOS. And that should be enough to take her home with you.

SJG

@dogchain

I will play along and answer your question in your discussion: “Other outlets for sexual energy besides the strip club”

Q: Is there anything you guys do besides going to the strip club to scratch that itch?

A: We do have:

1. High end escorts, escorts, centerfolds, actresses, models, porn stars etc that provide PSE/GFE for the pure sake of pleasure. (Eros, Tryst, Slixa, preferred411, etc)

2. Mistresses/Sugar Babies/Strippers ITC OTC; etc, for the daily needs of our bodies. (Gentleman’s clubs, Seeking, SugarDaddy, WhatsYourPrice, etc)

3. Wives and trophy wives to bear us lawful offspring, and be the faithful guardians of our homes. (Work, School, the Beach, High end Shops, High end country club, the Playboy Mansion, etc)

4. Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembot, and Internet Porn and Instagram/Onlyfans “Models”, for kicks-and-giggles...

5. Adult massage parlor for a quickie...

:D

I've done stripper ITC/OTC and online sugaring. I consider AMPs out of the question because AMP workers are tricked into coming here, basically indentured servants and sex slaves. AMPs are the McDonalds of the sex industry.

I got tired of ITC very quickly because of the blaring music, being rushed, being cramped in some semi-private closet, and having bouncers nearby.

So that leaves stripper OTC and sugaring. There's a lot of overlap b/w sugaring and OTC (with a repeat stripper); I don't think of these options as separate and distinct. The best analogy is that sugaring is like shopping online at Amazon whereas stripper OTC is more like shopping at your local Mom&Pop or chain. You can buy a pair of socks on Amazon and get 1000x more choices than going to the local REI -- but going to the REI ensures that you can try them on before buying. Likewise, sugaring reaches vastly more girls and a different demographic than your local club. The downside is that you might end up catfished occasionally at a few meet-and-greets. I've had way better experiences with sugaring.

When several decades separate you and your sweetheart, I don't consider sugaring a variation on dating. When there's a huge age difference, sugaring is simply a euphemism for prostitution.

Well, there is always Mother Thumb and her four daughters !

^ Date Rosie Palmer and her four sisters.
Box the bishop
Chafe the carrot
Spank the monkey
Choke the chicken
Beat the meat
Play five on one

You get the picture.

Subraman forgot to mention his favorite pastime - San Francisco bath houses.

I knew my Bathhouse Buddy wouldn't let that go unmentioned!

Dating girls.

One night stands

InstGram thots

Gloryholes!!!! If you join the organization that SJG and Subraman are creating you’ll be able to be on both sides of the hole!!!! True definition of give and take.

Once SJG and I have finished building our organization, this question will be much easier to answer: pumping loads into the ghetto, grill-wearing, fat, cellulite-ridden, gang-tat-having female golems we are recruiting. For examples, see any of the links Icee has posted of girls he likes

^^^ don’t forget about the heard of goats in lingerie too!

Massage parlors are probably 80% asian, but if you live in certain areas there are some that specialize in American (White, black), latin (Dominican, Brazilian), or European. Im not attracted to asians outside of thai and pinay so I rarely frequent them, but when everything shut down the latinas kept me sane.

@dogchain

Have you considered going to the Nevada brothels, like the Moonlite BunnyRanch, Chicken Ranch, etc.

How about traveling to the Happiest Place on Earth (according to Krusty) TJ

https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1401

Or the German Freikörperkultur (FKK) clubs

Just some ideas for you to consider.

I find nothing scratches the itch as well as a trip to a titty bar. I’ve tried a bunch of other outlets - breastaurants, AMP’s, glory holes, sex clubs, old Times Square sex shows and sex shops, old school adult theaters - and nothing works quite as well for me.

I’m not sure why - but I don’t like strip clubs that are BYO either.

^^
I'll 2nd that on the BYO. Only one I'll go to is Playhouse, but that's on very rare occasion.

97% of my sex is spousal sex. Anything else is like winning the lottery.

Strip Clubs, AMPs, Civvie Night Clubs, and Viet Coffee are good because the women dress slutty. If you want to keep her in high heels and makeup, it is that much easier if she is dressed like that when you first spotted her. Then you can start with a compliment, and likely keep her done up like that.

If you find a girl at the super market or the laundry mat, it will be harder.

SJG

SA has been my go-to option outside of strip clubs. Not really an amp or escort guy (not that I see anything wrong about that).

I find I prefer to find someone where I have a bit more than just a physical connection. I also look for a steady reliable partner.

I have gotten laid in all these places/experiences, except Tinder. Looked at it, but never gave it a serious try.

They all have pros and cons and they all follow the same basic rule: The more you spend, the better the experience and the lower the risk - except for outright scams, of course.

Oh and one time in a bar next to the Fairmont hotel where I was staying in San Jose I was picked up by a MILF that wanted to cheat on her Hubby. Good times - until she mentioned that he worked at - I'm sure you can see this coming - the Fairmont Hotel.