Is Purity Culture the motivation behind movements like MGTOW...others?

You know, for a "researcher" it's odd that you completely abandon most of the weird threads that you start here.

I know a bit about MGTOW, Redpill, and Manosphere stuff, but I don't care a lot about where it comes from and what motivates it. From what I can tell, it's all coming from a relatively small number of people who'd rather naval gaze about masculinity and sexuality rather than go outside and talk to people.

And that's what you should do. Go outside and talk to a human, and worry less about the conversations that keep a few fringe sub-Reddits chugging along.

OP is just another CJ Kunt alias ignore it

I mowed my lawn yesterday.

MGTOW are incels that have to go their own way because no women will ever be interested in them.

From my limited knowledge MGTOW is rooted in the concept of hypergamy . Women have limitless dating options as long as they are young and beautiful. rather than take advantage of their high sexual market value in their 20s (for marriage ) , we sleep around and monetize on on our looks with men who are not good for us , then turn and expect a stable , wealthy , respectful man to marry us in our 30s. The irony is that these men typically avoid women who they’d pair well with . They pass on good “wholesome “ women with little to no sexual history because they’re so obsessed with these hot women so far out of their league .

• definitely isn’t puritanical. They’d sleep around if they could , but their own self deprecating ideas keep them antisocial .

^ is this kinda like most of the men that go to strip clubs go because they’d never otherwise be able to see even an ugly woman nude? I of course am not talking about anyone here because everyone here is cool.

^ LOL I’ve said this before but shai buddy you’re one of the funniest guys here

"First, I am not a follower of the Protestant religion, much less know its tenants."

I'm a Protestant, and I know its tenets. My Church doesn't have any TENANTS.

^ but I’ve heard your church has a damn fine lasagna served when they have their potluck suppers

@jackslash Ok, lol. I wrote this when I woke up.

@Everyone You and some guys here have to admit America; especially the Puritans, have very judgmental ideas towards men and women. Hence, you have weirdos like MGTOW parroting similar ideas. These guys have been socialized in that environment with these clear expectation of chastity. How come in places where there's no religion, most people don't care. You can't say there's no correlation.

I'll admit that you should go for a walk and talk to people.

^^^ maybe investing in a blowup doll instead of using the couch cushions may help too.

"I mowed my lawn yesterday."

Hah! Me too! It was very hot and steamy/muggy BTW.

Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, is happy.

I seriously do not know anything at all about MGTOW, RedPill, or manosphere, this is the first I have heard of any of it. Based on what I have read in this discussion, I'm not sure I need to learn more.

^

Same here!

gammanu95 and TheeOSU ... you don't need to know about any of this stuff.

And, similar to others on this thread, this is why I most regard Beat's posts as low-grade trolling. Because it's painfully obvious that this is not a place populated by people who would know or care about this stuff, let alone have an informed opinion.

But this only amplifies my believe that Beat is a person who needs to go outside and talk to real people.

Its just men who can't get pussy finding it easier to blame society than working on themselves.

Its funny how they'll claim men choose to be successful and develop all these great habits. But somehow getting laid is society's fault and they can't do anything about it. And op is dc. Its obvious.

I agree about the posts being more interesting than politics. Whether we agree with them or not its a growing trend among men to varying degrees

@Call.Me.Ishmael

Where else could I ask these questions? I search online, but it seems most forums are highly politicized, and most of them are sex-negative."How did you overcome purity culture and decided to pay for sex..etc." Most people would say, "Paying for sex is exploitation" or "I would never pay for sex or even pay to get a lap dance..etc." These types of ideas come from both the left and the right(progressives and conservatives). I even went to porn forums, and most guys there say, "I would never pay a porn star to hook up; thats' for losers." Yet most seem pretty happy to pay for porn. There's a lot of stigma around sex work, at least in the Anglosphere.

This forum seems like one of the few places where you guys "overcame" Purity culture, and you go to strip clubs and sometimes are willing to get extras..etc. Hence you make for an exciting group to ask these types of questions.

@Tetradon I appreciate it, man. My main issue with these groups is that they are engaged in some "Double bind." They are willing to help you in one area but radicalize you in another place. For instance, imagine you are a college student; all you are interested in is getting laid; maybe you are not even religious. You discover a "manosphere writer" who promises to teach you how to get applied. He does this. However, at the same time, he writes a lot of posts which "degenerate" the culture has become. It seems that most PUA instructors and manosphere writers are like this. They are willing to help you but also expect you to have toxic beliefs about some and society.

*How to get laid

To be serious, I don't know any Protestants who advocate Purity culture. Maybe Baptists.

That reminds me of an old joke:

Q. Why do Baptists think it's a sin to screw standing up? A. Because it looks so much like dancing.

Calvinists are out there. Someone i went to high school with is a calvinist preacher now and his Facebook is hilarious to lurk on.

And the manosphere is a fraud. Just a cottage industry banking off incels .