Future - The Changes

shailynn
They never tell you what you need to know.
COVID has changed a lot of peoples mind sets and it’s too early to tell how people will act when COVID is behind us. Back to normal or a new normal.

Some thing have changed and it seems they are here to stay.

One thing I’ve been hearing a lot lately is how people working remotely at home will continue when things go back to normal. Most people rather work from home, companies save money on leasing and the costs associated with running an office. I local company where I live that employees about 2,000 office workers and has 3 large locations in town has already laid the grow work for this. I know one woman (an accountant for them) that explained to me how she has a monitoring app on her computer and it knows when she’s away from her computer, when she’s working, etc etc etc kinda like big brother but I guess that’s the trade off to be able to working in your PJs all day.

People never leaving their house for anything. All I see on TV are adds for Uber Eats, Door Dash, etc. not promoting the product, but those companies running commercials trying to hire workers. One night I was waiting for carry out at a pizza place and 5 Doordash drivers came in - in a 10 minute span. My thought was - god damn people are that lazy they can’t pick up a pizza themselves? My other thought was if I ordered door dash that guys probably makes 6 stops before he arrived at my house with a cold pizza. You’re elderly or sick, or got a bunch of kids in the house yeah I get it...

What else do you see changing for good?

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skibum609
4 years ago
hanging for good? People will continue in their sheep like behavior and will accept being locked down over minimal things so they can go on-line and crow about how caring they are. Movie Theaters will close. Strip clubs will die out. People will be kept in a state of fear. Working for the Government will become "good" and working elsewhere will become "bad". People lured by the idea of a basic income, will give up their privacy and independence for a few collars. Children will be taught from a young age to spy on their parents and report them to Government. Being white will become a crime.
gSteph
4 years ago
That bad, huh? I had no idea. Guess we're all doomed.
Studme53
4 years ago
I hope things come roaring back.
There’s this little corner bar near me that was a party every Th, Fri and Sat night with people packed in shoulder to should and 3 deep at the bar - I’m sure beyond the fire code capacity. The place was nothing special, just ice cold beer, a few TVs, pool table and a high volume “universal juke box” but the main attraction was a great fun crowd of people who wanted to be part of it. I have no doubt it will bounce back but not sure about everywhere.
Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
Everyone hypes up technology/crypto but the more we rely on tech the more vuneralble we become to shit really hitting the fan. Imagine a computer virus or EMP, we will be fucked. we need a mix of tech and old school manual labor
Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
we wont be able to do shit, smart cities my ass
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
I think things will go back to normal; it's human-nature to wanna live vs being confined - there is a lot of pent-up-demand from people not being able to do things they want/have-wanted to do and people most likely are gonna jump at the chance once it's there - there's gonna be a lot of "you don't know what you have till you lose it" especially when it was kinda taken away from you - e.g. just look at the TUSCL-threads of TUSCLers posting how they can't wait to get back in the clubs - I was at Olive-Garden this past Sunday around 5pm and it was about 90%-capacity and this Olive-Garden is good-sized.

The working-remotely trend had been ticking up year-by-year b/f Covid; Covid has likely accelerated that trend although it remains to be seen how much of it will stick after Covid is controlled (I assume a fair-amount but remains to be seen how much of a permanent up-tick there will be).

The shop-on-line thing has also been accelerated by Covid and I think a lot of that will remain but perhaps not at the current-level; IDK – a couple of days ago I was leaving the house and I noticed the Amazon-delivevy-van a couple of houses away – I had a package due that day so I waited till he got to my house but noticed he had delivered to about 6 houses in my short street alone.
docsavage
4 years ago
I think there will be a continued slow decline in the number of clubs. The government isn't really following policies that will lead to long term economic growth. Our trade deficits keep coming in at record levels, the federal debt is exploding, the ultra-low interest rates encourage borrowing and spending instead of saving and investing, inflationary policies are leading to a rise in commodity prices like oil, and the lengthy Covid lockdowns have probably done long term damage to the economy. Visiting strip clubs is a luxury and not a necessity and fewer people will have the money for them. Sinclair posted a article here a few months back about how he has been tracking the number of clubs and there has been a steady decline in numbers since 2008. There are many factors involved here but the country probably never fully recovered from the 2008 crash and there has been a slow deterioration in the economy since then that will likely continue.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
It'll be interesting to see how many businesses will not be able to come-back once Covid is controlled and how this will affect employment - but I gotta say I haven't noticed any closures around where I live but it's not as I've been looking around (and I haven't hit the mall but I rarely hit the mall pre-Covid so IDK how the business there are faring).

The little I've heard w.r.t business struggles has been inflation (prices of the things they purchase to run their biz going up); and have also heard businesses having issues hiring people w/ all the stimulus and UI-benefits many people are getting - seems there are businesses that are having to compete against the government to get employees and w.r.t. compensation.
623
4 years ago
I think you just have to look at historical events to see what is likely. Those that don’t study history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past but in this instance the roaring 20s followed the last big pandemic as people felt the need to celebrate freedom for nearly a decade. Hope that happens again. 😁
Muddy
4 years ago
I think they'll definitely be a lot more staying in and I agree I can believe how lazy some people are. Me personally I love getting out, I cannot stay inside. Some out there have predicted for a while now that cities would become obselete with the advent of the internet and all that. The opposite has shown to be true in recent years. The demand to live in cities, especially ones like SF, LA, NYC, DC, etc. is insane and the prices reflect that. Companies that left the big cities have flocked back because that's where the talent is. I just don't see a ton of people living out on a farm now. I see alot of this as temporary IMO but let's see.
LapHunt
4 years ago
The notion of a roaring 20s-like era following Covid sounds good, but I have a great deal of skepticism that we will actually see that. I simply don't trust the globalists to ease up on many of the restrictions on our freedom that they have now conditioned the masses to passively support. Every time it seems we may be getting out of this, Fauci and the establishment elites start talking about another "wave" or about "variants" and of course, about the "new normal." The little media-loving douche and his many public health clones have been talking lately about how people should still wear masks even after getting vaccinated, and they're also trying to figure out how to regulate the ways that vaccinated people can gather. The goalposts have kept moving for a year now and I fear they will just keep moving them (recall them saying "We just need to lock down for two to four weeks to flatten the curve" back in March 2020).

After someone gets the vaccine, they should be allowed obviously to be all systems go. Once herd immunity is reached, that *should* by rights be the end to this. I just don't know if they will ever let this go (as the saying goes "Never let a crisis go to waste") and the way the corrupt MSM endlessly stirs up the fear mongering, it's tough to see them dropping this as the guiding directive for how to live every aspect of our lives as they've been doing for a year now.

When or if they give the green light to leisure travel and stop shaming people for considering it, that would be the signal to me that maybe this thing was truly over.
LapHunt
4 years ago
Re: some changes that will be in place after Covid and the fate of big cities...it seems many people are actually leaving major cities like LA, SF, NYC, etc. and moving to midsized cities in Florida and Texas. I think that trend will continue. The decay of large cities was obvious before Covid and since many of these cities are run by lockdown-loving woke morons, people who value their freedom will likely continue to flee.
Cashman1234
4 years ago
I wish I had the vision to see the changes that may become permanent after covid.

I think offices made a decision to have folks work remotely last March - and they likely factored a percentage decline in productivity and efficiency. However, as the pandemic wore on, they probably saw higher productivity than expected, so the rush to return to the offices got delayed. My offices have been entirely remote since last March, and there are basically no plans to return until 2022.

The costs of office space have gotten out of control, so that has been a nice savings. However, now companies are faced with a challenge, as they can no longer pack folks in cubicles with no distance. They have to come up with other methods of hybrid work - a couple days in and a couple at home.

In terms of local restaurants - I don’t eat in - but I continue to stop in for take out. I still haven’t gotten comfortable with those delivery services.

People will want more interaction as things get better. I think restaurants will see a big increase in dining as the summer approaches and vaccines become more available. I also think there is a pent up demand for travel to vacation destinations - so late 2021 and early 2022 should be busy.

Live whores are always better than the alternative (online cam whores - not dead ones!) So I expect strip clubs to come back around. The only issue that I see slowing strip clubs demand is if the dancers don’t get vaccinated - as that could still worry old married guys (even though most old married guys should be getting vaccinated.)
Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
The only pent up demand is for travel and we wont be having the roaring 20s because in the 20s people were the ones getting jobs, now new jobs are automated. i see universal basic income happening due to the amount of people that are no longer employable. When we open businesses are going to cut off the trim because now they know they can operate with a smaller work force. Top tier strip clubs are the only ones that are going to make it. Talent is going to improve a lot. you can see it her in Phoenix already. bottom line obesity is a factor if you end up in the hospital due to covid, SC are not going to want the attention of fat strippers going to the hospital.
twentyfive
4 years ago
Change is inevitable, most change are resisted at first, but after a while becomes a new normal. I don't really expect that things will be the same, I do believe some things will be better, others not so much.
rickdugan
4 years ago
If the Florida experience is any indication, I think that things will return to a modified version of what they were before. Florida has been wide open for several months now, so it serves as a decent barometer for what a return in other areas will look like.

I don't see this permanently impacting restaurants and strip clubs long-term. As Papi and
Cash rightly said, people want to get out and enjoy experiences and there is no true substitute for in person naked girls. The clubs and restaurants in my area are already hopping on weekends. The older weekday crowds are taking a little longer to file back in en masse, but IMHO eventually they too will get back out there once enough of them have been vaccinated.

The biggest permanent change I see is in offices. After a year of working remotely, I don't see a wholesale shift back to in-person. The biggest beneficiaries will be places like Florida and smaller more desirable cities, where many remote workers are already relocating to in anticipation of this shift becoming permanent (my county is getting slammed with an influx of relocated remote workers). The biggest losers will be places like NYC, San Francisco, L.A., DC, and other larger cities. I think that a fundamental shift in the economies of large urban areas will accelerate in the next 12-24 months as corporate tenants don't renew their leases and residential vacancies keep rising.

This will also inevitably have an impact on business travel, for the same reasons noted above re: offices. There will be less business travel and more reliance upon technologies. The airline and hotel segments are going to get smaller IMHO as this shift becomes permanent.

So in a nutshell, I see this accelerating things that were already happening, like heavier reliance online deliveries and remote work, but I don't see this altering fundamental human desires for contact and in-person entertainment.
JamesSD
4 years ago
There's a lot of pent up demand and with the vaccines things are going to get back to normal much quicker than they shut down.

Movie theaters will have record years. Tourism industry will fucking boom, especially since the rich did well in the pandemic and the poor are the ones hurting most.
JamesSD
4 years ago
I actually think all the damage to bit cities has been done and you'll see a slow flow back from the exurbs to cities once the culture is back.
skibum609
4 years ago
Older people will go back to what we see as normal and younger people will remain shut ins living a fake life on the internet. Except for having to wear a mask at times my life has been back to normal since the summer. In person poker, dining out, strip clubbing 13 out of the last 18 days.
rickdugan
4 years ago
===> "I actually think all the damage to big cities has been done and you'll see a slow flow back from the exurbs to cities once the culture is back."

We shall see I suppose. I deal with white collar firms in NYC and L.A. and none of my contacts are eager to resume with the 2+ hour commutes and long days under fluorescent lights. After a solid year working from home, a lot of companies are finding that they can make the model work with the right technology. I could see a hybrid model coming for them in the future, with a smaller office footprint for sales meetings and to house servers with the bulk of employees working from home.

Maybe these cities become more of an entertainment and education destination and less of a work destination? Idk. Right now most of the desks in all of those Manhattan skyrises are still empty - one year later. Many of those offices are running on 5 to 10 year leases, so I see this playing out over the next several years as offices shrink and many companies choose not to renew their leases.

Or I could be completely off base and the desire to attract top young urban talent could indeed draw many office operations back into the big cities. Time will tell I suppose.

Salty.Nutz
4 years ago
"Older people will go back to what we see as normal and younger people will remain shut ins living a fake life on the internet"

Theres truth in this, kids in high school are more into VR. When I was in HS i would go to places where the drinking age was over 18. those places are now shut down
Cashman1234
4 years ago
I wonder what will become of the big cities like NYC and LA.

Many folks live there due to proximity to work - and enjoyment of the cosmopolitan lifestyle. If those people are only required to come to the office (in the city) three days each week, then it might make the suburbs more attractive.

The daily commute into the city can be miserable - a true rat race. The more I can avoid it, the better.

Also, the NYC taxes are an added reason to get out.

The rich will remain in love with cities - as they don’t mind the added expense of everything.

I think that taking a 5 day a week commute out of the situation will get many folks thinking about why they are living in a city. The less need they see to be near their office, the more attractive suburbs will become. It may not be an immediate exodus, but it seems likely.

I’ve seen real estate prices move up in my area over the past year. However, the big change has been seeing homes sell in a very short time. So, inventory has declined considerably as the pandemic has continued.

They say that fewer than 10% of corporations will return to a traditional 5 day a week office requirement, once the pandemic winds down. So we will see what happens over the next 12-18 months.
Icee Loco (asshole)
4 years ago
We could have made so many changes both the better. Health care reform unemployment reform a universal basic income.... But the only changes that seem to be sticking are businesses using skeleton crews and relying more on technology to get rid of workers and raise profit margins
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
U.S. Air Travel Hits Highest Numbers Since Pandemic


Air travel in the United States appears to be on the rise after this past weekend saw a new record for the most people screened by the Transportation Security Administration since the pandemic affected the country last year.

According to the Associated Press, the TSA reported that over 1.3 million people went through their screening processes both Friday and Sunday. As the summer months approach, airlines believe that more people will continue to book flights as some might be eager to travel more than they have over the past year.

American Airlines CEO Doug Parker said on Monday, “Our last three weeks have been the best three weeks since the pandemic hit, and each week has been better than the one prior.”

AP reports, “While the number of people passing through airport checkpoints has topped 1 million for four straight days and the 7-day rolling average is the highest in the pandemic era, passenger traffic is still down more than 50% in March compared with the same period in 2019.”

The airline industry suffered massive losses from the pandemic as people were more inclined to stay home and avoid modes of travel. As more people are vaccinated and case numbers start to decline, this might affect travel as Americans begin to feel safer using airports and being in confined spaces with strangers from different regions.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Covid-19 vaccination tracker, around 21% of the U.S. population has received at least one dose of the vaccine, while 11.5% are fully vaccinated.

Parker said that the bookings for American Airlines are currently still 20% under the levels that they were in 2019. However, airlines seem to be more confident that this surge in bookings will be part of a permanent incline as opposed to the previous increases over the holiday months that then dropped as case numbers spiked.

On Monday, at the same J.P. Morgan investor conference Parker spoke at, Delta Airlines CEO Ed Bastian said that flight bookings started to go up about five or six weeks ago. Bastian said that this time around, the improvement “seems like it’s real.” United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby also said that he anticipates the movement to continue upward.

During a webcast with the Washington Post, Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly said, “…the vaccinations are approaching 70 million. And get to the springtime and people want to travel and people are, I think, tired of being cooped up. So, I think there are very clear signs that our business is picking up, which is very consistent from, you know, everything else that we’re reading.”

AP reports that Southwest said passengers are booking vacation or leisurely trips to beaches and mountains. However, business travel is still low.

Kelly added, “…I’m not convinced that people want to do business virtually to the point that there will be minimal travel. I think business travel will come roaring back. Then the question becomes to what level. And that I’m just not as certain of. So, all we can do is plan and be prepared.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/u-s-air-t…
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