Presidential Update
mark94
Arizona
There were 2 paths that Trump had to stop the steal. Either through the Supreme Court or State Legislatures.
Well, Republican legislators have revealed themselves as spineless members of the Deep State. They have refused to officially look at the evidence. There will be a day of reckoning for them but, for now, no joy.
Now, it’s up to the Supreme Court. Several legal actions will reach the SC this week, including a surprising action filed with them today by the State ( Republic) of Texas.
“Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton today filed a lawsuit against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in the United States Supreme Court. The four states exploited the COVID-19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election. The battleground states flooded their people with unlawful ballot applications and ballots while ignoring statutory requirements as to how they were received, evaluated and counted.”
If the SC agrees with Texas, it would invalidate the Biden electors in those states, effectively giving Trump a win. We should know the result within the next week.
Well, Republican legislators have revealed themselves as spineless members of the Deep State. They have refused to officially look at the evidence. There will be a day of reckoning for them but, for now, no joy.
Now, it’s up to the Supreme Court. Several legal actions will reach the SC this week, including a surprising action filed with them today by the State ( Republic) of Texas.
“Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton today filed a lawsuit against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in the United States Supreme Court. The four states exploited the COVID-19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election. The battleground states flooded their people with unlawful ballot applications and ballots while ignoring statutory requirements as to how they were received, evaluated and counted.”
If the SC agrees with Texas, it would invalidate the Biden electors in those states, effectively giving Trump a win. We should know the result within the next week.
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"President Donald Trump’s effort to snatch a second term through a series of state and federal court challenges has been flaming out for weeks. Now, the calendar has all but extinguished it.
Dec. 8 is the so-called “safe harbor” date for the presidential election, a milestone established in federal law for states to conclude any disputes over the results. Trump’s failure to gain traction in litigation, with his lawyers and allies failing to block crucial states from declaring Joe Biden the winner, means the safe harbor deadline stands as another potentially insurmountable reason for the courts to decline to intervene."
— https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/08…
"All US states except Wisconsin appear to have met a deadline under federal law to resolve disputes arising from the November 3 presidential election, thereby ensuring Joe Biden’s victory, the Associated Press reports.
Tuesday is the so-called safe harbor deadline for states to resolve disputes arising from the election. Under US law, Congress will consider a state’s election result to be “conclusive” if it is finalized by the safe harbor date. Other than Wisconsin, every state appears to have met the deadline, which essentially means Congress has to accept the electoral votes that will be cast next week and sent to the Capitol for counting on January 6."
— https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/its-ove…
"The Electoral College is a creation of the Constitution but Congress sets the date for federal elections and, in the case of the presidency, determines when presidential electors gather in state capitals to vote. In 2020 that date will be December 14. But Congress also set another deadline, six days before electors meet [Today], to insulate state results from being challenged in Congress. By day’s end on December 14, every state is expected to have made its election results official, awarding 306 electoral votes to Biden and 232 to President Donald Trump."
— https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/its-ove…
More reality rub-in fpr Magatard Nation 😃😃
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^^^ they’ll both be dead by then.
In the past McConnell has made it clear he has no interest in running for prez; doubt he would settle for vice-, especially if he had to put up with a defective like Trump at close range.
However, either of these options works for me:
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The claim is that the way the election was run in these 4 states was not consistent with how the process is specified under federal law and the State constitution. For example, the Pennsylvania constitution specifies that only ballots received by Election Day are to be counted. The people running the election in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh simply ignored this requirement. They had no authority to do that.
Damn straight, Texas has legal standing.
If you actually heard something while reading his comments, my money is on other existing reasons for the voices in your head.
Who is trying to 'steal' the result, Biden or Trump.
This is the world right now wondering WTF is going on...
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"The United States Supreme Court is refusing to intervene on a petition for injunctive relief relating to the Pennsylvania election results. The news came Tuesday afternoon after Justice Samuel Alito requested Pennsylvania file a brief on the matter. The state urged the court not to involve itself in President Donald Trump’s election nonsense."
Article notes no dissents to refusal were made public
— https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/us-supr…
Shadow, those two are the least popular royals in modern times.
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While Alito was the one who dismissed the claims, he did so without dispute from other conservative justices, including Clarence Thomas and the three justices Trump appointed to the High Court.
"Some clung to the possibility that they could win a new case where Texas filed a suit against multiple other states for their election results. It’s all part of Trump’s plan, they said."
— https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/alito-i…
Here's what I mean. Anything is possible with modern technology, and it will eventually lead to the end of humanity as we know it. Humans weren't designed to advance at the rate we've been going lately. Point in case: The wheel was invented in 4500 BC and it was a "potter's wheel" meaning it spun horizontally and was used for making clay pots. It wasn't until about 1200 years later that some genius figured out if you stand it up, you can roll heavy objects on it. Gunpowder was invented sometime in the 9th century. Not until 1794 did we see the combustion engine. Then in 1957 the electronic calculator. (10 years before I was born, but some of you fellas might have been around.) Since then our lives have become almost completely dependent upon computers, and now it's being reported that "gene editing" is being used to make soldiers stronger.
Think about that. It's like a paper towel that's thrown out of an airplane, floats down gracefully for 20,000 feet, then goes through a rain storm, balls up into a clump and begins falling as fast as a rock. That's where technology has gotten us. 30 years ago these arguments we're having on TUSCL would have been done in person at a town meeting, or in school, or at a social gathering. Now it's all anonymous, me against you, how many likes will I get, and how do I know if my vote was counted, or anybody else's vote for that matter?
Some things need to be done the old fashioned way or it just can't be trusted. I don't trust shit anymore.
You get my point.
Although I am obviously no fan of Trump, I try to read as much centrist political information as possible so as not to be soon fed only one POV. And so far even the centrist reports are staying that Trump is fighting a losing battle. Time to move on.
Spoiler alert. If that’s what a news source is saying, it’s not centrist.
It is centrist. You just refuse to believe it and it's easier for you to deny it's neutrality than to admit that this whole fraud thing is absurd and that it's all over for Trump. How much you wanna bet that the SC refuses to even hear the case? It's gonna end up exactly like all of the others have.....tossed out. But you keep on adjusting that tin foil hat and yelling at your TV.
Trump was supposed to lose by 11 to 14 points, he did much better than we were told was possible even with the mass fraud, media bias, and censorship. Who thought he had any chance with all that the globalists threw at him. The plan now is to fight and resist the radical plans of the globalists. The system didn't give up after 2016, the MAGA movement won't either if this steal isn't stopped.
The Trumpophobes and globalists have another thing coming regardless of what happens.
Sooo, now even Bill Barr is on the RINO enemy list. At what point do MAGA fans scratch their heads and say this doesn't make sense. Everyone is Deep State except Trump and you (and we're not really sure about you.) What is the definition of paranoia?
I’m not saying that it WILL happen, I’m saying it very well COULD happen. The people saying there is zero chance of this happening are the ones wearing the tin foil hats.
At this point it’s done you can holler as long and as loud as you like the facts are thus; this is an attempt by a losing candidate to do an end run around the electorate, disenfranchising millions of people for his personal gain, and anyone who enables this is a traitor to the United States of America
Have a good day, I’m done with this stupidity
A: Republican officeholders and election officials across Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan, along with Justices Alito, Barrett, Kavaunaugh, Thomas, Gorsuch and other judges across the country are all part of a deep state conspiracy involving North Koreans, Venezuelans, Hugo Chavez (who's dead), China, the USPS, Doug Ducey, Brian Kemp, and the FBI/DOJ to steal the election from Donald Trump.
Orrrrr
B: Trump lost
Alternatively if you have no respect for the rule of law and the US justice system then you are wasting your time brining it to court in the first place.
The Pied Piper just keeps playing his flute and riding out of town with his loyal $$$ contributors in tow.
Umm...
I’m still waiting for someone to address this directly.
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Do you really think the Supreme Court is going to get involved with such a profoundly stupid and meritless case? Why? Because Trump appointed three SC justices and they owe him something in terms of loyalty?
The ACA lawsuit was also profoundly stupid, and the SC signaled that it will support the ACA. Both Kavanaugh and Roberts indicated that they will support the ACA. Just because the court is 6-3 does not mean that horseshit suits will always win with a conservative bias. The point is, the SC is not Trump's Kangaroo court.
Snarky quote from Roberts on the ACA:
" On severance question, hard to argue that Congress intended entire ACA to fall when the same Congress did not even try to repeal the rest of the Act. I think, frankly, they wanted the Court to do that but that's not our job."
It's no surprise that @Mark continues to be a nutcase. What's disturbing is that 70 million people voted for an incompetent and mentally ill reality TV star.
Could happen. Not.
Hey, I know it's hard.
But, he lost.
Simply that.
It's ok. You'll get another boner some day.
I already told you. Texas does not get to tell other states how to pick their presidential electors. 9-0 if they even bother with it and don’t just say “Denied.” The reason Supreme Court appointments are for life is so that they can’t be coerced to overturn the clear will of the people and keep a moron in office after he was rejected.
Here as directly as is possible, you are delusional seek help, until that takes place be prepared to be ridiculed repeatedly.
Justice prevails.
Apparently, they didn’t get the advice from the TUSCL legal braintrust that the SC won’t consider the lawsuit.
Trump lost.
I know many are disappointed. Hell, I'm 66. I've been disappointed in many an election. Many. But elections are how we do it here.
Life goes on, we will survive.
Uhm.....yeah.
Everybody but the tin foil hat wearers and Trump ass kissers knew and accepted that weeks ago. A sad moment in history that it ever even got to this point in the courts. Trump's "presidency" is riddled with embarrassments and corruption. Hope he leaves peacefully now.
"[...] ‘Without decency and without dignity’: German newsweekly Der Spiegel names Trump ‘Loser of the Year’"
— https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/without…
So much so it got a swift response from you and your fellow snowflake Magatards. Just like TheDonald and his fellow narcissists when something makes an unflattering impact they attempt to minimize its relevance; normies know it was a direct hit on their bloated egos.
Save your vitriol for your arch enemies.
I for one am ready for this mess to be over and for our leaders to put their attention to constructive matters of national importance. Things like national defense for example.