OT: Marxism as the religion of the left
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
From an article forwarded to me by a fellow TUSCLer:
"... to Marxists, there is no such thing as a universal good or a universal evil. Those of us still in thrall to Judeo-Christian morality believe that good and evil are universal. In other words, whether an act is good or evil has nothing to do with who committed the act — rich or poor, male or female, religious or secular, member of one’s nation or of another nation. Stealing and murder are morally wrong, no matter who stole or who murdered ... That is not the case for Marx and the Left. In Marx’s words in “Capital” (“Das Kapital”): - “Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and the cultural development thereby determined. We therefore reject every attempt to impose on us any moral dogma whatsoever as an eternal, ultimate and forever immutable moral law ..."
"... Fifty-three years later, Marx’s foremost disciple, Vladimir Lenin, architect of the Russian Revolution, proclaimed: - “We say that our morality is entirely subordinated to the interests of the class struggle of the proletariat. … We do not believe in an eternal morality. … We repudiate all morality derived from non-human (i.e., God) and non-class concepts” (Address to the Third Congress of the Russian Young Communist League, Oct. 2, 1920) ..."
"... As professor Wilfred Cantwell Smith, director of Harvard University’s Center for the Study of World Religions, wrote in 1957: “For Marxism there is no reason (literally no reason: our universe, the movement posits, is the kind of universe where there cannot conceivably be any reason) for not killing or torturing or exploiting a human person if his liquidation or torture or slave labor will advance the historical process.” ..."
"... This is how Marx’s ideological heirs, today’s leftists, view the world — with one important difference: Morality is not determined only by class, but by race, power and sex as well ... It is left-wing dogma that a black person cannot be a racist. Only whites can be racist. And, indeed, all whites are racist ..."
"... When a woman accuses a man of sexually harassing or raping her, the Left’s reaction is not, “Let us try to determine the truth as best we can.” It is, “Believe women.” One must automatically “believe women” because, on the Left, it is not only morality that doesn’t transcend race, power, class or sex; truth doesn’t either. That’s why leftists protest and riot whenever a confrontation between a police officer and a black person ends with the death of an unarmed black person. The police officer is automatically racist, and the death is automatically deemed murder. On the Left, the concept of objective truth is increasingly deemed a form of white supremacy ..."
https://www.dailywire.com/news/prager-th…
"... to Marxists, there is no such thing as a universal good or a universal evil. Those of us still in thrall to Judeo-Christian morality believe that good and evil are universal. In other words, whether an act is good or evil has nothing to do with who committed the act — rich or poor, male or female, religious or secular, member of one’s nation or of another nation. Stealing and murder are morally wrong, no matter who stole or who murdered ... That is not the case for Marx and the Left. In Marx’s words in “Capital” (“Das Kapital”): - “Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and the cultural development thereby determined. We therefore reject every attempt to impose on us any moral dogma whatsoever as an eternal, ultimate and forever immutable moral law ..."
"... Fifty-three years later, Marx’s foremost disciple, Vladimir Lenin, architect of the Russian Revolution, proclaimed: - “We say that our morality is entirely subordinated to the interests of the class struggle of the proletariat. … We do not believe in an eternal morality. … We repudiate all morality derived from non-human (i.e., God) and non-class concepts” (Address to the Third Congress of the Russian Young Communist League, Oct. 2, 1920) ..."
"... As professor Wilfred Cantwell Smith, director of Harvard University’s Center for the Study of World Religions, wrote in 1957: “For Marxism there is no reason (literally no reason: our universe, the movement posits, is the kind of universe where there cannot conceivably be any reason) for not killing or torturing or exploiting a human person if his liquidation or torture or slave labor will advance the historical process.” ..."
"... This is how Marx’s ideological heirs, today’s leftists, view the world — with one important difference: Morality is not determined only by class, but by race, power and sex as well ... It is left-wing dogma that a black person cannot be a racist. Only whites can be racist. And, indeed, all whites are racist ..."
"... When a woman accuses a man of sexually harassing or raping her, the Left’s reaction is not, “Let us try to determine the truth as best we can.” It is, “Believe women.” One must automatically “believe women” because, on the Left, it is not only morality that doesn’t transcend race, power, class or sex; truth doesn’t either. That’s why leftists protest and riot whenever a confrontation between a police officer and a black person ends with the death of an unarmed black person. The police officer is automatically racist, and the death is automatically deemed murder. On the Left, the concept of objective truth is increasingly deemed a form of white supremacy ..."
https://www.dailywire.com/news/prager-th…
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It deserves to run before I start to tear apart Global Warmism.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/aborti…
As for partial birth abortions, that's not a thing, that a made up term coined by anti-abortion fanatics like yourself to stigmatize all abortions.
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Don't worry, I am here to help you in either case.
From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictiona…
Definition of majority
1a: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total
From your link to a Gallup poll, in the first chart, there are 3 groupings for respondents.
1) Legal under any circumstance
2) Illegal under any circumstance
3) Legal under certain circumstances
Further, questions later in the poll define what "certain circumstances" are. Specifically, they include:
1) The woman's life is in danger
2) The child would be born mentally disabled
3) The child would be born with a life threatening illness
4) The pregnancy was caused by rape or incest
5) The child would be born with Down's syndrome
All 5 items mentioned are extraordinary circumstances and are a minority of the some 1 million abortions performed annually in this country.
People who say they support a womans "right to choose" (an imaginary right - it is nowhere in the Constitution) fall in the category of people who support abortion under any circumstance - not just the 5 extraordinary circumstances mentioned above.
According to data in the poll that you linked to, 29% of people polled fall in this category as of May 2020.
29% is not a majority.
Even if you took the broader definition of support - a category which would include me because I do acknowledge that abortion in cases where the mothers life is in danger is acceptable, 50% support abortion (as of May 2020) under certain circumstances.
50% is also not a majority.
With that out of the way, looking at your other article, it seems that you have problems with the phrase "partial birth abortion" as opposed to dilation and extraction.
You are splitting hairs here.
Regardless of what you call the barbaric practice, you are killing a baby that could be born and live a happy and successful life. Waiting lists for people who want to adopt such babies are literally several years long, yet we as a society allow this legal murder.
You didn't read that second link did you? From that link: ""'Partial-birth abortion' refers to a procedure known as dilation and extraction, or D&X, which involves attempting to remove the fetus intact through the cervix," explains Dr. Grossman. "The procedure is no longer legal unless medication is used to stop the fetal heartbeat first."
If you want to decrease abortions you should make contraception cheaper and more widely available. Outlawing abortion will only lead to illegal unregulated abortion clinics and coat hangers.
Lastly, I wish you cons were as concerned about these babies after they were born as you are before they are born.
Also, the word “majority” has a specific meaning.
I think that we are getting to the root of your problem. It’s illeiteracy. Though technically you cN pronounce words that you see on paper or screen, you have no idea what they mean.
Come up with a better excuse than that which is lame one that you know is a lie.
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That is cheap. How about people take fucking responsibility for themselves. Fucking Leftist babies always want the government to do everything for them.
Saying that people support abortion under any circumstance is very different from saying they support it under certain circumstances.
The first sentence implies an anything goes approach. (Note the root word “any”)
The second sentence implies limits. Those limits were further clarified in the poll as well as in my response to you.
I suppose you think that I am splitting hairs when I tell you that 29% is not a majority.
When you say that a majority of Americans support abortion, are you adding the two categories together and "thinking" that 79% of Americans support abortion?
A woman's right to chose? What about the father's rights? NO woman has ever gotten pregnant without a man involved!
So much for your stupid woman's right "thought"!
i was also thinking the same. wouldn't that 29% already included in the 50% group? kinda like that 117% california voting turnout thing recently.
But there is no overlap in the categories in the poll.
That being said, it is not fair to label people who would support abortion only under certain circumstances as abortion supporters. These are people who realize that life is complex and sometimes circumstances require you to do something that you would rather not do.
I don't neatly fall into the pro-choice or pro-life bucket, which I guess makes me more pro-choice, but I don't see abortion illegalized in more than a few states anytime soon.
So I guess the father should have the option to financially support the baby or just be free to walk away, regardless of the mothers choice.
Dave Chappelle
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