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The other strippers in the club: Do they matter?

chandler
Blue Ridge Foothills
Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:02 AM
As long as there's one girl you can have a good time with, does is matter if there aren't any other strippers in the club you find attractive? Both from a practical standpoint (other girls to look at, other options even if you don't use them), and in terms of the vibe (i.e., does it really feel like a strip club experience?)

47 comments

  • apesht45
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    17 years ago
    I think everyone here would prefer a multitude of attractive girls for the reasons you have stated. That said, I have had an excellent time in my favorite club spending my time and money with just one dancer for the entire evening. She was the only one there at the time who I thought worth the effort.
  • lopaw
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    17 years ago
    When I go to a club (especially a new one), I prefer to visit with many ladies over the course of the evening as opposed to sitting with just [view link], yes - a plethora of attractive ladies is a must for me.
  • shadowcat
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    17 years ago
    As long as there is one girl there that I like and want to spend a lot of time and money on. I could care less who else is there. As you have heard, I have a covey of quail at my favorite club. 12-15 at any given time. This insures me that I will always find a favorite. Problem is when 5 or 6 of them are there at the same time. I feel that I need to spend time and money on each of them. I have the money and time. But there is a pecking order. I would sometimes rather spend the whole time with my #1 favorite. But I can't ignore the others. So I spread it around. They all know each other and there is no jealousy. #1 gets the lions share. If #1 is not there but #2 or #3 is and none of the others are present, I'll spend my time with either of them and could care less about the other dancers in the club.
  • Book Guy
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    17 years ago
    About three is the minimum for me. If there's JUST ONE and she's super-hot, I'd be disappointed whenever all the other guys demanded her attentions away from me. And I want a feeling of being surrounded by a harem, not just of being in the company of one hottie. It's like a little fantasy ranch that I need, with chickens cluckin' about here and there and everywhere, here a chick cluck cluck, there a chick cluck cluck, here a chick, there a chick, everywhere a chick cluck, old macdonald ... It needs to "feel like hotties are unavoidable here." Then I get really turned on.
  • DandyDan
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    17 years ago
    I would think in the long run, it would matter, because even if you got one favorite you are spending your time with now, there inevitably comes a time in the future she won't be there and you gotta find someone else. Besides, I would rather have options. Even my favorites know that and they give them to me once in a while. If your favorites know how you operate, it doesn't matter.
  • 99Intrepid
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    17 years ago
    Most of go to these clubs for the variety of dancers to see and experience. Going to see the same dancer over and over again will evolve into a "girlfriend" experience - and if it's a girlfriend you want, a strip club isn't the best place to look for one. Personally I hate it when one dancer hooks onto me as I walk in the door, no matter who she is. Since I'm the one who's shelling out the cash, I'd like to be able to select whomever I wish without someone sticking to me.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    I used to do most of my clubbing in small clubs during off hours when there weren't many girls working, so it was pretty rare for me to find more than one girl who I really liked. But that was OK because there were few customers so I'd usually get to spend as much time wiht her as I wished. Of course it's great to find a lot of attractive girls, but it rarely happens, especially in a small club during off hours.
  • AbbieNormal
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    17 years ago
    Yes, to a certain degree. The others SHOULD be at least moderately good looking, but I can have a good time, and often have, with just one good dancer. As mentioned they add to the overall vibe.
  • motorhead
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    17 years ago
    When I was younger, I liked a large selection of hot girls and tried to sample as many as I could. But now, I usually just spend time with my favorite at each club. So on one hand it really doesn't matter, but on the other hand, a lot of hot girls in the club makes it a topic of conversation for myself and my ATF to discuss our likes and dislikes. Besides, keeping her a little jealous is always fun too.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    I hit a lot of nasty dives where you're lucky if there's one decent looking girl working at any given time. If there isn't, I quickly move on. If there is, it can be incredible, because the mileage is unreal, and the hot girl does all the same dirty deeds as the fuglies. In some way, the fact that all the others are unattractive makes it better by adding to the feeling that I've lucked into a dream situation, and she might not even realize how good she is. Sleaze heaven! However, that feels more like a whorehouse or a contrived date to me than a strip club. The essence of a strip club to me is a room full of hot pussy full of possibilities. Most of them act as though they'd like nothing better than to get with me and rub their luscious young bodies all over mine. Even if few of them seem to be my type, even if our eyes never meet, I like just having them around, contributing to that strip club vibe. They enhance my experience with the girl I choose to be with. I like having the option of getting dances with five or six different girls if I feel like it. I like there being more hot girls than I can get around to, thinking I might come back and catch some on another night. I like all the good things that come from having a surplus. Without a surplus, it doesn't feel like a true strip club.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    In a perfect club, all girls would be attractive and friendly. But I've never found a club remotely like that. So given the inevitability of shortcomings, I'd rather a place where everyone if friendly than one where they're all gorgeous. All I need to have a great time is one who I really like. And once I'm with her I'm hardly going to notice anyone else, so it doesn't make much difference to me what they look like.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    If they aren't attractive, I usually wish they'd be a little less friendly. I've been in clubs where all the girls were attractive and friendly. After about an hour, some of them began to appear unattractive to me. I think it's natural to sort 'em out like that, no matter how high the standard, so I don't see the presence of a few plain Janes as a shortcoming for the club.
  • pop
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    17 years ago
    I doubt that there is a perfect club since all the customers are very imperfect. Variety is the spice of life, and strip clubs.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    Actually, the clubs I've been in that had the most uniformly-attractive dancers have almost always been clubs that I haven't liked. The really high-end gentlemen's clubs (or those that try to be) often (not always) seem to have few unattractive dancers. But they also tend to have a less friendly atmosphere, higher prices, more annoying features and are just less fun for me. I'd much rather go to a small local place with fairly average-looking but friendly girls than a GC full of gorgeous girls with attitudes.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    Please, this isn't a question of gentlemen's club stereotypes. I'm just asking about the presence of some attractive strippers (however you define that) other than the girl you're with, not perfection or uniform attractiveness, whatever that means.
  • apesht45
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    17 years ago
    Like a Robert Palmer video.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    All other things being equal, of course I'd rather have lots of attractive girls in the place. But when are all other things ever equal? All I'm trying to say is that if I'm with a girl who I really like, the attractiveness of the other girls is pretty low on my list of concerns. I probably won't even notice. But I will notice the price of an LD or VIP, the type and volume of music being played, etc.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    FONDL: Thanks, that's exactly what I'm asking about, and how I expected you to answer it. I think it's at the heart of the difference between those who view a strip club as simply a venue for meeting up with a provider (of whatever), and those who like me view a strip club as a unique setting for an experience that adds up to something more than seeing one or two girls.
  • Book Guy
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    17 years ago
    ROFL @ Robert Palmer video DEFINITELY. That's the fantasy. If you're "swimming in pussy" at the club, then I like it. I don't like the idea of unattractive women usurping my visual attention against my will. But then, I don't want "super glam" women as are described at too-high-falutin' "gentlemen's clubs." What I dislike about those women isn't, per se, their level of attractiveness -- pretty is always better than ugly -- but their CHOICE for the TYPE of attractiveness they select, a rather cosmetic and unapproachable type. I prefer girls-next-door. (Seems to be a theme today. Ginger, Mary-Anne ...)
  • Book Guy
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    17 years ago
    eep
  • Yoda
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    17 years ago
    If I'm traveling and not going to visit a fav it definitely matters. Back home not so much.
  • DougS
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    17 years ago
    Like Yoda said.. if I'm going to a new club, or a club where I have no favorites, I want every girls to be hot and my type. If I'm with my ATF, for instance, it doesn't matter who is there, or what is going on; we are in our own little world. There could be a room full of 10's, all muff diving and I wouldn't notice.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    For those who say the other strippers don't matter: Is there anything at all about the strip club setting that's essential to your experience? Could it just as well take place somewhere else as far as you're concerned? Or is it actually a nuisance to have to meet up in a strip club?
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    Chandler, whether or not it matter depends on why I happen to be there. If I'm in a strange place and go in to watch and have a drink it matters a great deal how the dancers act and look. But if I happen to hook up with one I really like, from that point on it matters very little, chances are won't notice what the other girls are like. And to answer your last question, I like a friendly laid-back atmosphere where I feel welcome and no one is hassling me. Which is why I've often said that my review ratings start at 10 and I subtract for everying that annoys me. My perfect club experience is to be with a girl I really dig with nothing annoying me to interrupt the experience. That's really all I ever looked for. And rarely found.
  • Yoda
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    17 years ago
    Interesting question. I don't go to a strip club looking for sex. Hiring an escort is a much better deal if that is all you want. I go to a club because I want to spend a few hours flirting with beautiful women who I wouldn't have access to in real life and also to relax. I don't need the flashy lights or glitz of an upscale place but I do enjoy the atmosphere of the more local type clubs I go to.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    Interesting replies. I get the feeling I come off as asking leading questions, so I'm glad they aren't taken that way. Personally, I don't care for a hermetic isolation with a stripper. That's what I mean by a contrived date and not my idea of what a strip club offers best. I like having other strippers around (and other customers for that matter). I don't mind interruptions, within reason, because that's to be expected in a nightclub where people are being sociable. A certain level of activity within the club keeps things more interesting. I think I get to know a girl better when we're both interacting some with others rather than just locked in placid one-on-one the whole time. Above all, the possibility that the girl I'm with could split at some point for some other guy, or that I could pair off with a different stripper, makes the fact that we *do* spend time together more dramatic, more precious and more meaningful.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    I feel much the same as does Yoda. I don't need much in the way of surroundings, just the absence of annoyance. And I consider high prices to be an annoyance, so I often prefer a more downscale club if that's accompanied by lower prices as it often is. Some of the best times I've ever had in a club were in a total dump with only one attractive girl and I'm the only customer. That doesn't bother me at all. In fact that's often the perfect environment for my fantasy.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    FONDL, it really sounds like what you find annoying are strip clubs, and you only tolerate them to the degree that they aren't like a strip club. I mean, I don't care for most clubs, but I do like the basic idea of a place full of people being sociable with a bunch of hot girls circulating around, acting like nymphos.
  • Book Guy
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    17 years ago
    Hahahaha I'm going to plight my vote to the same camp. I like strip clubs, except for all the annoying things that come with strip clubs. :) And, like Chandler says, I too don't care for most clubs, but I do like having access to the girls who are inside the clubs and outside their clothes. :)
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    Chandler and BG, I agree, I used to go to most clubs in spite of the club not because of it. But isn't that generally true of all of us? How many strip clubs can you think of that you'd go to even if you knew that they didn't have any strippers working that night? Book Guy, I'm curious, how do the girls get outside their clothes? Do they wear edible underwear and eat them at the clubs you go to? Now that I'd like to see.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    If they didn't have any strippers, would it be a strip club? I say not. In fact, I wouldn't consider it a strip club with only one stripper, which is where we differ.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    Chandler, I don't recall ever being in a place that only had 1 dancer but I've been in several that only had 2. In fact I've had a couple really great times in places like that. Are they strip clubs? What about neighborhood bars that have strippers some nights but not others, or have strippers at night but not during the day. Or maybe the bar opens several hours before the entertainment starts. Are they strip clubs? There are many such places. I think the place where I met my ATF illustrates the point I was trying to make. The place has no amentities whatever - no nice decor, no booze, no bouncers, no dj, no waitresses, no VIP room. Nothing except attractive and friendly young naked girls dancing on stage and giving cheap LDs. Nobody would ever go there except for the girls. It's a great place to spend a lot of time with a pretty girl without spending a lot of money. If the owner didn't have so many silly rules it would be almost perfect. (I think I used to rate it either 7 or 8.)
  • Book Guy
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    17 years ago
    FONDL: the girls get outside the clothes the same way they got inside them, just opposite. :)
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    FONDL, I would call your first examples strip clubs in name only, not places that offer what I consider a strip club experience. The latter place sounds fine to me. I don't know where you get the idea that amenities are something I require. I don't care about them one way or the other. All that matters to me is that there are more than a few other attractive strippers, and other customers, so that we all have options and risks, including the risk of being ignored.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    Chandler, I got the impression that amenities are important to you because every time I make negative comments about gentlemen's clubs you have disagreed with me. To me that suggests that you like the amenities, since that's what defines a gentlemen's club. And your definition of the "strip club experience" is very different than mine. I could care less whether there are other customers or more than one super girl. My idea of the best "strip club experience" is to be alone in a private place with a girl I really like.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    FONDL: I like clubs that have cute girls and good dances in a relatively hassle-free setting. If that happens to be a gentlemen's club, that's fine with me. I don't much care whether amenities are present or not. Their absence may be a big deal for you, not for me. I love being alone in a private place on a regular, voluntary date. With a pro, the comparative lack of genuine, mutual attraction and desire becomes unavoidable. It feels false to me, too much like a brothel or an escort session. To me, a strip club means a c-l-u-b, a social gathering place, blissfully superficial, not a one-on-one appointment venue.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    Chandler, it's not the amentities in a GC that turn me off, I'm indifferent about most of them. The thing that turns me off is that I usually have to pay extra for them, and I have little interest in paying for something that doesn't add to my enjoyment. Neighborhood bar-type places are usually a lot cheaper.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    FONDL: The cheapest price isn't my first criterion. I go to the clubs where I have the most fun. There aren't enough clubs that I like for me to have the luxury of excluding some because they cost a few bucks extra. But we've been through this before in other threads, so I hope we don't need to turn yet another thread into a gentlemen's club debate.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    This isn't really a GC debate to me. I avoid clubs of all thypes that I think are overpriced. Most GC's that i've ben to happen to fall in that category but then so do a lot of other clubs. And I'm not talkinga few bucks, I'm talking about places that are WAY overpriced, lke for example $400 VIP rooms. No thanks.
  • minnow
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    17 years ago
    If you want a club experience as opposed to a dating experience, the answer is a resounding "yes". Even if you find that "reliably good time dancer", what are the odds of her being available for you at random times? It's good to have other options/experiences. As an analogy, even though you may like steak, don't you occasionally wish to have the "surf n'turf special, not to mention fine wine and dessert?
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    FONDL: Sorry, I don't see how this is a pricing debeate, either. These $400 clubs you're talking about don't sound like any place I go to. In my experience, having a selection of attractive dancers is possible at clubs all across the price spectrum.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    Minnow: That's a good summary of the practical side of the question I alluded to my original question. I'd go a step further and say the vibe side of the question can be important, too, even if you're just looking for a dating type of experience. The presence of other attractive options in the club makes the fact that we spend time together more significant than if we had no other option. It heightens the feeling of getting special treatment.
  • Book Guy
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    17 years ago
    Thinking more carefully about this, I might change my statements. Perhaps it isn't so much that I want a wide range of other attractive women at the club, above and beyond the one or two with whom I intend to interact; perhaps it is more, that I DON'T want a wide range of UNattractive women there ...
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    I agree with Book Guy. The absence of really unattractive dancers is more important for me than the presence of a lot of really good looking ones. My looks standards aren't that high.
  • chandler
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    17 years ago
    See, I don't mind the proverbial "and three ugly ones", if only to provide contrast. A whole sea of them, however, and I have to be careful where I turn my gaze - a strip club experience, just not the kind I seek.
  • Book Guy
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    17 years ago
    Maybe even that isn't accurate. Maybe it's, that I want ENOUGH attention from ENOUGH attractive women; and that if there are extremely unattractive women in the mix as well, then I want those women to leave me alone entirely. Particularly the well-made-up, carefully primped, extremely ugly ones who seem to think that the mere PRESENCE of skin makes them appealing. There's something boorish, outlandish, even aggressive, about a moustachioed fat chick in a mini-skirt in civilian life; too much testosterone or something, my visual experience isn't just "Yuck" but also "Yuck and how DARE she!" Same in a strip club, but of course by slightly different wardrobe criteria.
  • FONDL
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    17 years ago
    Just to clarify, I like the "other" dancers to have reasonably decent bodies (eg. no fatties) but I don't much care what their faces look like. Because when I'm with a dancer, we're sitting as far from the stage as possible (for more privacy) and I can't see the other dancers' faces anyway. Atually I think almost all dancers look better from some distance than from close up.
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