When the dudes who “dated a stripper” are smugly above all of the devious hustles of the strip club and come into the club to let us know that.
But dudes who used to work in the industry in some form or fashion, as in ex club staff, or in one particular case last night, a man who worked in the peripheral of the sex industry with porn stars and I think to strip clubs as well...are more prone to dropping money easily and don’t care.
Lol!
It makes sense - using general guy logic.
A guy dates - or bangs - a stripper - and he then thinks he can bang every stripper who comes over to chat.
Guys who have experience working in the club business know the truth, and they may have more appreciation for many of the folks who work in clubs - and they tip based on their knowledge of the club.
What does the word observation mean ?
Some people are aware that they are schmucks and excuse it by saying they don't know it and don't care. Someone addicted to throwing around money to impress strippers might think that way.
Well I can see how those who used to be customers, but have dated a stripper would see themselves as having beat the racket.
Where as those who were strip club or sex industry staff, would not think like that, it all being rather matter of fact.
I can see how this would be.
My view is that a man who is cheating on an SO, by going to strip clubs, he is at the cock roach level, he is having to shell out lots of money, but cannot really be open about his life and get personal and OTC with the girls.
This was me, trying to survive a death trap marriage.
A guy who works at strip clubs or otherwise in the sex industry, he probably feels more solidarity with the girls, not a racket to beat.
My own view is that using strip clubs as your primary form of sexual gratification is a sorry state of affairs.
The best use of strip clubs is:
To imbibe the sexual aesthetic, the dolled up girls dressed to please, and sexual experts. You can partake with them, but this will not be your primary mode. You will take what you learn and recreate it in your outside life in some way.
For just the power trip, See, Want, Get, getting the girl you have selected, dressed and painted up as she was when you first spotted her.
And then for those extremists, to have strip club dancers be your outside life and outside relationship.
But then notice, neither of these three uses requires going there very often. Your life is more about those you know outside.
For me, my organization will offer a strip club quality experience on a nightly basis, for our people, and at no extra charge.
I think lots of guys, you basic customers, are going to see the strip club women as being all about money, and as having lots of power. And this is true, but only to a point. It applies only in that venue. Wrong to see the women or the club as a game to beat,
Being in a strip club, especially a higher end showier club, like in San Francisco, it is like being a kid in a candy store. But it is so very expensive, and you really want longer term more private encounters with the women. But just dropping more money is not the best way. You need to get them outside, and you need to get to more personal relationships.
It has always been like that since the advent of patriarchy, dividing women into two categories, one for public prestige and social standing, and the other for sexual desire. And this view is expressed all the time on this board.
In my organization we will be collapsing these distinctions.
SJG
Red Tails 2012 youtube.com
There is a lot of sexual frustration and gender conflict just under the surface of our society. What nicespice has seen about former strip club custies is part of it.
SJG
Idk what these little boys get out of letting ya know they used to date a stripper or many but do not throw money around. See I don't know/don't care the fuck your problem is. No money? Bye
^ To be fair, some dumb bitches I think do go for it. From what I heard through the grape vine two ex-boyfriends ago, he absolutely slayed it with hooking up with dancers after we broke up. 😅
I think the ones who succeed the most tho kinda succeed by indirect communicating it. Not showing up to the club and talking dancers ears off.
^^^^^ a man can do well fucking strippers. But if he is gossiping to them, then he is gossiping with them, and that means that he is becoming like them.
That is not good.
SJG
Makes me wonder what the DJ who was dating a stripper would do?
Gotta enjoy your women away from the strip club. And a gentleman does not talk.
Worst thing possible would be for a man to become like women by gossiping with them.
SJG
I guess if they've had strippers for free, then in their minds why pay for it? They may also think that thru their stripper GF they've learned how they hustle PLs and they don't wanna be that guy. Also - it appears many, but not all, stripper BFs, are not exactly "high earners" and likely not the type to part w/ their $$$ easily in the club?
w.r.t. staff tipping when they visit - as others have said, they know the biz from firsthand experience and from firsthand-experience know how important good/proper tipping is.
lol it is so dumb. The thing is some of us are used to every type of guy under the sun spending on us. Old and overweight, young and good looking, 35ish good looking, young and ugly etc etc.
I think that is what some of these guys don't get when someone like me walks away. I am used to getting money from all types, and will literally walk away while someone is still trying to talk to me if I feel like it.
I guess they must be hunting for gullible girls or maybe girls that always gotta be with somebody? or hunting for straight up sluts? Idk
I don't wanna say that all "i dated strippers" dudes are nonspenders tho. It does seem largely they are complete non spenders ime. or bottom level spenders. But there are some that will spend on the strippers in the club while telling you about their baby mama that's a stripper and who looks just like you LOL dear god.
^ especially when you pay them money and drugs. It's as easy as being a trick doing the same thing!
my dating strippers has been very limited. and usually just enjoying dinner. good time!
Icey, I think some guys are coming from an opposition position, even a misogynist position, jealous of the ways that women can get money.
They don't understand that that opens more doors to relating to them than it closes.
SJG
I don't tell dancers who I've just met about how well I've gotten to know other dancers. I'd rather each experience with a new dancer play out in its own way. But whether or not I'm going to spend, and how much, has a lot to do with the club itself and not just the dancers.
^^^^ care to be more specific?
Just curious.
SJG
Read within the four corners of his post, ass.
I like to think I'm not precisely "smug" about recognizing the hustle most dancers use. I tend to either go with the flow if the hustle looks like it'll pay off, or pay no attention and shut it down if not.
I mean, sometimes watching the game play out can be enjoyable as well.
Interesting observation. My thoughts would be it may compare to someone who has worked in the food service industry is more likely to tip bar tenders and waitresses better because they understand what is involved. Vs someone who may have been to a restaurant and enjoyed the services but has no clue.
Part of this may come from ego on guys part who have "dated a stripper" thinking they can do the same thing again with another dancer with ease. And thinking they got one dancer and so the rest should bow down to them.