I'm starting to think that the scales are tilted a bit on the review approval front. There are some guys who seem to camp out in the unpublished reviews section and who will approve seemingly anything. These guys include:
grand1511 the mighty quinn DickyDoo2 lotsoffun201
Feel free to add to this list as you spot them.
I don’t approve every review. Believe me I reject probably 30% of those I see. I think if there’s some useful info I’ll approve it. Trouble is we can’t see all of those that we reject
"Trouble is we can’t see all of those that we reject"
Could be a point there. When in doubt I'll typically approve because I'd rather have more info than less. I've also rejected some who decided to tell me stuff about a named dancer only her OBGYN would know.
Would you like to see a member's voting record on their profile page?
"Would you like to see a member's voting record on their profile page?"
I don't feel like I need to know that about other TUSCLers, but would not be opposed to it if others think it's important.
Fair enough on the reject side, but I'll at least say that the guys I named are extremely generous given some of what I've seen them approve.
I'm not saying that I'm the toughest hombre on the review front. I think that award goes to clubber. But I do agree with clubber more times than not, especially when they can't seem to recall what they spent on anything. When that happens, a review has a much higher hurdle to clear for me and it better not be three paragraphs of fluffy nostalgia or other nonsense. Add to that no memory of the crew on duty and it is almost assuredly a shit can moment for me.
===> "Would you like to see a member's voting record on their profile page?"
I have nothing to hide and anyone is welcome to scrutinize what I approve or reject.
Also, the more transparency in the process, the better.
Lately there have been a significant number of duplicate reviews as well as closed clubs. Closed clubs are a slippery slope. I feel it’s better to allow it and save someone the trouble of headed someplace only to find it locked. Hong Kong reviews read like novels and frankly I don’t feel like reading a play by play of what happened. Others do, so I review them after skimming through.
Yes. We need transparency to make sure there is no collusion. :)
I approve them if they give me $5
I just noticed this, would not be surprised in the IP Address for the usernames listed are the same person. . Hate to make this site overcomplicated but I have a solution. The community should be able to hand out strikes for the approvers. If you get a strike from 3 different members for approving a bad review you lose your reviewer privelege for 3 months. This isnt an extreme penalty like loss of site priveleges, but we cant have 2 sentence reviews by people hoping to a month free.
@NJballa, considering I’ve been on this site since 2003 and ave met Founder personally, I’m sure, at least with me, what you say is completely untrue.
===>" Hate to make this site overcomplicated but I have a solution. The community should be able to hand out strikes for the approvers. If you get a strike from 3 different members for approving a bad review you lose your reviewer privelege for 3 months. "
Not only too complicated, but prone to abuse. You cannot make anything on this site based upon some number of member rating because there are a handful of guys who have a fuck ton of troll accounts.
Shurgs I tried.
I’d like to see who they reject
Fellas, I just recently noticed reviews popping up where the approving and rejecting votes (if any) are shown, and the order in which the votes came in. One flaky review was tied at 2-2, when a 3rd thumbs up put the flake over the top. I don't have any names to add to rick's list as my time is too precious.
I'm not really pushing for this, but I'd be amenable to having ones accept/reject statistics listed in their profile. On the topic of closed clubs, I'd be amenable towards accepting the review on a non-VIP credit basis.
Yes - there do seem to be a # of serial-approovers which is not an issue in itself except they do seem to approve a good # of flaky reviews
"... Would you like to see a member's voting record on their profile page ..."
Off the top of my PL-head I'd say it's not a must-have but it would be a somewhat interesting additional piece of data so a 👍 for me.
My record is going to show nearly 100% approval. It’s partially because I’ll approve approve a review as long as it has some useful info in it. If I see a review that should be rejected but isn’t a club I’ve ever been to, I’ll usually not vote at all and leave it for a local or someone with direct experience to reject it. My stats will give the impression I approve almost everything but that’s a bit misleading.
I do reject anything I know is wrong based on personal history as well as any extras linked with a named dancer as that’s my personal triggering event.
What rick dugan said about losing review privileges is not a good idea. Some have it out for another member and collude with friends. Also, some are just nitpicky as hell.
I see a problem with certain members rejecting nearly all reviews
Seems like some here want a socialist site here
===> "Some have it out for another member and collude with friends. "
And some just "collude" by logging in with their other accounts. 😉
My approval rate is probably around 70%. I don't think that reviews have to be a masterpiece to warrant approval, but I had better see enough specific intel that I believe that the person actually visited the club that day for more than 20 seconds.
I'm probably like 80%. I maybe was higher at first, but recently am less tolerant with reviews that have poor grammar, structure, and overall are difficult to read or seem like they were written by a 5th grader.
I haven't really been reading TUSCL much, but started looking at the reviews again since there was so much grousing going on. There's multiple reviews I've approved the last couple of days that checked a lot of boxes the regulars push for on the forums, but the content is boilerplate and generally lousy. I'm not expecting to be entertained by a review, but there should be something evocative about the experience when I read it. Not asking for changes. Just an observation. Since we can comment on reviews whether we accept or reject them, I've just started putting my thoughts there. If people are just posting whatever to get the VIP access they won't care, but if guys are trying to be helpful maybe they'll do better the next time around.
It’s complicated for sure, but there are some that just don’t get it, and think different than the majority of us, for myself I tend to read and review the clubs I’m familiar with, occasionally some will attract my attention that I’m not familiar with but usually I try to defer to there hoping that they have good intentions and aren’t approving or rejecting for personal reasons.
So I just went back and looked at some of the reviews I voted on that made it to published status. I'm rethinking whether I want to post feedback on all posts or not. If it's a downvote for me then that's what I voted, but it'd be nice to pass constructive feedback with an upvote directly.
@founder - Would it be much work to put in a "blind" message feature where reviewers can send direct feedback to the submitter they get whether their review is posted or not?
There a few more than just them there’s that AZ420 and a couple more