Developing a reputation ITC
rickdugan
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My gig has always been UTR and that's where I like it. The third one was the hot ass girl who partied with me the other night, so it can't be that bad if she went OTC with me anyway - especially since it's not normally her gig - but I also don't know how many other opportunities it might have cost me over time. What sucks is that I've been even more careful than normal in this club because it is a more conservative place, yet still I am now in the spotlight and so too will any girl that spends concentrated time with me.
Idk, I may have to shift things around for a while.
Anyone else run into this and was it a net positive or negative for you? In one respect it might help that I've become a known quantity, but OTOH I'm concerned that I might be missing out on girls who are particularly cautious about what others may think.
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I know for a fact the girls know my buddies and I in the clubs we frequent. We've had new girls tell us "yeah, we heard you guys get all the girls and the staff drunk" and the like. I have no idea if any more explicit info gets shared, but if it does, I can't tell
I will play along.
Regulars develop a reputation based on their behavior, nice/rude, quiet/silent, talkative/loud, good tipper/bad tipper, well dressed/bad dressed etc etc.
All these things are easy to see and talk about.
Regarding private behavior, like extras and full service behind closed doors/curtains ITC, or OTC, is all hearsay.
Remember:
"Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead."
This is one of the reasons I don’t participate in threesomes, and the fact that I don’t want to disappoint two girls at the same time.
Most of the Favorites I have had ITC and OTC relationships with, ask for discretion and secrecy. And a gentleman like myself would never tell.
Some other girls have tried to find out, and ask me questions and I always say kiddingly “if I tell you, I will have to kill you” or “I'm taking the Fifth, on counsel's advice, on the grounds I may incriminate myself."
It is nobody business what two consenting adults do in private.
Once I get a fav to do OTC, I don’t have to visit her at the strip club, because I prefer OTC, so nobody would know anything unless “she” decided to let others know. I of course will always answer as I said if asked about by anyone anywhere.
Just my two cents.
@JSD: Yeah, but that cuts both ways. Sure girls prone to things like OTC might be more inclined to start gravitating over, but the ones who are not inclined towards that might pigeon-hole me and stop coming over. It's the pre-conversion girls who often become my best low volume favorites, including my ATF and the runner-up for that title, so I don't want to lose access to them.
I think it’s just jealousy on their part since they aren’t getting a piece of the pie. What else do females have to do except gossip when they aren’t busy?
Therefore, I never say anything to anyone at any time other than what I share with my mongering cohorts on this esteemed venue.
I do go into clubs both near and far from home and I work hard to present a disarmingly adorable persona who does have cash to spend.
I have had unknown dancers sit with me and wiggle around until she is in my lap and stick shifting me. I always play innocent or horribly horny. More times than not, I am offered fun things both inside and outside the club. I have been told by dancers that it is known that I play to wit I play even more innocent but they know details! Throws me for a loop every time. But I admit nothing and deny everything.
My strategy seems to work! And I’m staying with it till something goes sideways or a better idea comes up.
The girls who like me are catty to each other and some have gotten really bad competing for me. The problem is, really young strippers blue the line between work and personal life too much, which is fine with me though.
Most of the staff likes me coz I tip well and I get a lot of hookups for it.
Most dancers think I'm an asshole and are jealous of the girls I see, who are jealous of each other.
When the ATF was there and available the other dancers stayed away from me. It’d common curtesy and respect for others. I’ve seen videos taken in the dressing room late at night and I’ve heard them deride some customers and praise others.
1) The concept that a guy who comes to club in a suit, and locks down a dancer for hours on end can remain UTR is laughable.
2) Nobody can control dancer gossip, so no point thinking about it too much. Each dancer qualifies and sizes up a customer to suit her own needs as much as the 3 credit bureaus put together.
3) I couldn't say how much dancer gossip has helped, or hurt my club visits without knowing everything said about me, and who heard it when.
4) Since you can't control #2, or fully know #2 and #3, I'd just go with the flow/ roll with the punches.
5) Since I posted this on Mothers Day, Happy Mothers day to all the mothers (and "muthas") out there, and remember that Fathers Day is really 9 months before Mothers Day, (Beat you to it, jackslash ! )
Based on what Rick has said - the girls have a positive view of him. If they understand he’s otc only - and they speak positively of him - he’s treated them right and compensated them fairly. Nothing negative here.
When I asked one new and extremely hot black girl at a club for a dance, after the dance she stopped by and asked me why I chose her, "I was surprised you asked me. I was told by other dancers, you don't get dances with black girls." I told her, "well that's obviously not true I asked you," then after she asked for more of a reason I told her, "most of the black dancers here are not hot and the two others who are hot, don't give good dances."
My favorites at the time were all not at the club this one day, so I tried a few newer dancers. One dancer a young blonde named Kyra starts doing a move two of my favorites both did with me and she did it quite a bit smoother and a lot better than either of my favorites, and she soon says, "wow, that got you excited quicker than I expected. Heather was right you do love that."
Another dancer at a good extras club one dancer told a few of her friends that I was very good at certain things, and I had at least three dancers mention this and asked me to do the same to her. Most likely it was just a way to get me interested, but it did show they discussed things.
Same here. For some freakin' reason each of these girls decided to voluntarily share this. Frankly I would have preferred not knowing at all.