Depends on the dancer. I'd guess that there's a lower(ish) chance if she's in some sort of relationship, especially if it's a new relationship.
The only way I can see it increasing the chance of OTC is if she's out to get a payback fuck for some bad behavior on the part of the boyfriend. Or, the boyfriend is a leech on her funds and she needs to make quick money to make up the difference.
Not certain. I have been offered OTC several times, but have not taken them up on it. Plus, I generally never inquire about their relationship status and thus I never know.
I haven’t partook in a OTC because the last thing I need is to have to shoot some stripper’s boyfriend that is pissed off at his bitch for fucking some other dude. I don’t need any of that shit.
I've had OTC with strippers that are very married. Some who definitely have boyfriends or girlfriends. Nope comes down to how much the stripper sees sex as sacred or not
I think it comes down to whether or not you make it rain $30,000 on stage or else you can tip your girlfriend to be $3000 for a purse. Just ask IceyLoco...
Probably doesn't matter. Some boyfriends know and approve. Others are in the dark. I don't think it's a big factor but the girls who do it may be less inclined to get into a serious relationship.
Whether they are in a relationship or not usually doesn't affect their willingness to do OTC but it does affect my willingness to partake in it with them.
I do not need or want the drama of knowingly getting involved with someone with a SO.
Both DS I and II temporarily broke off our business relationship after they got serious boyfriends. So it can matter. But they were not typical strippers. For the typical stripper it doesn’t usually matter a whole lot.
A much more telling metric to me is whether or not she has kids. First because she has higher expenses that can't wait and, second, because many of these girls tend to hold their pussy in much less magical regard after they've kids out through them.
Strippers are actually very attentive and pursue what they want. More so than civvies. It just depends on where you are on their priority list. If you're a trick, you 'll be pretty low
I personally think if they are young, they will do OTC only if they are not seeing someone, but the older they get, the less that matters. I remember my old favorite Nina, who was constantly talking about her partners, was always trying to get me to do OTC, but I was never up for it.
Almost all strippers are in relationships and have kids. I have fucked strippers in their homes when their boyfriends were away or their kids were sleeping in another room.
Sadly strippers in relationships are usually supporting deadbeats so thier chances of OTC will be higher. Chances she will invite you to join her on vacation will be lower though.
Having a boyfriend seems to decrease the chance that the kind of girls with whom I actually want to have sex will have sex with me. There are plenty of the type I wouldn't touch with with <em>y'all's</em> dicks who will fuck anything with an extra buck or two.
I agree with the comments about kids being more indicative than a boyfriend alone. Case in point, the woman who's the primary reason my club visits have tapered off a bit. When she was kid free, she'd "consider" meeting, but never would actually meet up. While she was preggers with the first one is when she started to slip. An occasional BJ at the club, and later at her place when she was too big to dance. When the second kid came along, things changed drastically. I pay most of her rent now.
I'll listen if they want to talk to me about their personal life. But I don't get invested in whether or not I'm hearing anything that's true. More an attitude towards people, not strippers in particular.
I've never had an OTC-related problem with boyfriends. One stripper I vibed well with was the ex of the VIP minder. He made such a point of trying to shit on my time at the club, I eventually switched to a different club.
I did OTC with the ex of another VIP minder, while also getting dances with his current squeeze. The two strippers were catty with each other, but didn't care I was customer to both. That VIP minder was cool with me. I as also the regular of stripper #3, who always tipped him well. She was the widow of a biker gang leader, and learned a lot from him about taking good care of friends so they take good care of you.
Shailynn hard to fathom not everyone's a broke old trick?
Girls don't tell customers the truth coz they're selling a fantasy. They're in their stripper persona. And they have no obligation to share anything. Like customers are always honest....
@CMI If you remember Larry Fisherman was quite a prevaricator himself, his very first post was how scared he barebacked a whore and was wondering if she gave him an STD or was pregnant.
I am correct. Girls don't tell customers the truth coz they're selling a fantasy. They're in their stripper persona. And they have no obligation to share anything. Like customers are always honest..
I always thought iceefag and Fishsticks were the same person, or persona. Dropping $30k in the club in one night, just because he makes good income. Lol.
In my experience if she has a boyfriend it's harder for to get OTC.
But one time I was seeing this dancer OTC pretty consistently for a out a year. And she had a very jealous boyfriend. She told me all about him. He was physically unable to have sex and he was an injured vet. He texted me one day that he just wanted to make sure she was not being abused and how terrible he felt she had to do this. Apparently in this case I really was the only one she was seeing OTC. They were really in love with each other.
Anyway he wanted to meet at a restaurant, all 3 of us. I said yes. He was very very cool. And we got to know each other. Eventually he was fine with me fucking his girl at his place. I'd come over on Sunday and bring a twelve pack and we all 3 watched football then I went into the bedroom with his girl for a couple hours. Then I'd come out and we would watch more football or something and drink another beer and talk.
Some may find that weird. I did at first. But people make things work to survive. He just wanted to know o was good to his woman. That was years ago but I still three way text with both of them and happy to say they are still together as a couple.
===> "I personally think if they are young, they will do OTC only if they are not seeing someone, but the older they get, the less that matters."
Dan couldn't have said it better. IME when they are 21-22 and have an SO it seems to be more important to them, but by the time they cross the mid 20s Rubicon they get increasingly fed up with struggling against their SOs to maximize their income. It doesn't hurt that all too often the SOs are contributing to their financial burdens and there are often kids in the picture by that point.
I use to do "OTC" with a married fav. We'd socialize outside the club (fully clothed hugs only). Occasionally with her husband. He was a bit rickish, but generally a good guy. Once, we were watching a movie, and a nude scene came on. She yelled up to her teenage son to come and see the tits. He just yelled nah ma I'm good. Good to have a stripper mom.
@drew yeah I guess banging a stripper with her man in the house is a little weird but he realized it was to his and her financial benefit. And we was no longer able to have sex with her. You could say that my debauched life style saved their marriage lol.
But seriously younger people today are far more flexible on what relationships look like
===> "I use to do "OTC" with a married fav. We'd socialize outside the club (fully clothed hugs only). Occasionally with her husband. "
You mean you were her gal pal. Were you actually paying her for that? Or is this just another one of these weird moments where some oddball tries to shoehorn in a civilian interaction as if it was "OTC" in an attempt to be relevant? 😏
===> "I guess banging a stripper with her man in the house is a little weird but he realized it was to his and her financial benefit."
You are a study in contradictions Jimmy. Not long ago you were fretting over a club owner because he happened to be casually banging a girl who you want to take OTC, but now you're sharing a story about banging a girl while her husband was actually in the same house?
Idk dude. I'd feel much more exposed in the latter situation. What kind of twisted type of dude could be OK with his wife bringing guys home to fuck? Could his self disgust finally get the better of him and drive him to do something impulsive and stupid? How do you protect yourself from nefarious behavior when you're balls deep in her and he's coming up from behind?
I have to say Jimmy that I'm starting to wonder a bit about your situational assessment settings. 😁
I know of an ex Follies dancer that is married with 2 kids. I have seen the thumbnail photos of her doing gangbangs on USAsexguide and bragging to co workers that she did 5 guys.
I think a woman serious attached will not want to be doing other guys. But she will also be backing herself out of strip clubs.
For the others, their willingness, in my opinion will usually have a lot to do with how it is being presented. It is important never to treat them as prostitutes, as the will run many off, and there really is no reason to ever treat them that way.
My CF did OTC with me this year. Then I found out she was engaged to be married after I was going to add her on social media.
I decided to just act like I never found out and keep asking if she wanted to do more OTC dates. She eventually broke down one night at the club. She never actually told me about him or being engaged. She used our age as the excuse to not wanting to do OTC again. But it's pretty obvious to me she got a guilty conscience. He might have even known IDK really.
I would say even having a significant other, whether it be boyfriend, fiance, or husband OTC could still occur. Everyone has different situations and arrangements. Some may even know and be okay with it or encourage it if the money is good.
I have found that a strippers relationships are usually short lived. If she did OTC with you then stopped because she's with someone just keep the lines of communication open if you like her. I'd say at least half the time she will be back in your arms in six months. Don't use her and over promise. Just be around. Often being the last decent man standing gets you bonus points and better OTC. This works for those of us who don't actually hate or resent these women and genuinely enjoy their company
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last commentThe only way I can see it increasing the chance of OTC is if she's out to get a payback fuck for some bad behavior on the part of the boyfriend. Or, the boyfriend is a leech on her funds and she needs to make quick money to make up the difference.
I do not need or want the drama of knowingly getting involved with someone with a SO.
@jackslash- while the kids are in another room? You’re a savage haha.
But cheer up buddy, we got Iceefag now.
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I agree with the comments about kids being more indicative than a boyfriend alone. Case in point, the woman who's the primary reason my club visits have tapered off a bit. When she was kid free, she'd "consider" meeting, but never would actually meet up. While she was preggers with the first one is when she started to slip. An occasional BJ at the club, and later at her place when she was too big to dance. When the second kid came along, things changed drastically. I pay most of her rent now.
I've never had an OTC-related problem with boyfriends. One stripper I vibed well with was the ex of the VIP minder. He made such a point of trying to shit on my time at the club, I eventually switched to a different club.
I did OTC with the ex of another VIP minder, while also getting dances with his current squeeze. The two strippers were catty with each other, but didn't care I was customer to both. That VIP minder was cool with me. I as also the regular of stripper #3, who always tipped him well. She was the widow of a biker gang leader, and learned a lot from him about taking good care of friends so they take good care of you.
Girls don't tell customers the truth coz they're selling a fantasy. They're in their stripper persona. And they have no obligation to share anything. Like customers are always honest....
If you remember Larry Fisherman was quite a prevaricator himself, his very first post was how scared he barebacked a whore and was wondering if she gave him an STD or was pregnant.
I am correct. Girls don't tell customers the truth coz they're selling a fantasy. They're in their stripper persona. And they have no obligation to share anything. Like customers are always honest..
You know that from personal experience right Iceefag
But one time I was seeing this dancer OTC pretty consistently for a out a year. And she had a very jealous boyfriend. She told me all about him. He was physically unable to have sex and he was an injured vet. He texted me one day that he just wanted to make sure she was not being abused and how terrible he felt she had to do this. Apparently in this case I really was the only one she was seeing OTC. They were really in love with each other.
Anyway he wanted to meet at a restaurant, all 3 of us. I said yes. He was very very cool. And we got to know each other. Eventually he was fine with me fucking his girl at his place. I'd come over on Sunday and bring a twelve pack and we all 3 watched football then I went into the bedroom with his girl for a couple hours. Then I'd come out and we would watch more football or something and drink another beer and talk.
Some may find that weird. I did at first. But people make things work to survive. He just wanted to know o was good to his woman. That was years ago but I still three way text with both of them and happy to say they are still together as a couple.
Dan couldn't have said it better. IME when they are 21-22 and have an SO it seems to be more important to them, but by the time they cross the mid 20s Rubicon they get increasingly fed up with struggling against their SOs to maximize their income. It doesn't hurt that all too often the SOs are contributing to their financial burdens and there are often kids in the picture by that point.
Yes.
But seriously younger people today are far more flexible on what relationships look like
You mean you were her gal pal. Were you actually paying her for that? Or is this just another one of these weird moments where some oddball tries to shoehorn in a civilian interaction as if it was "OTC" in an attempt to be relevant? 😏
You are a study in contradictions Jimmy. Not long ago you were fretting over a club owner because he happened to be casually banging a girl who you want to take OTC, but now you're sharing a story about banging a girl while her husband was actually in the same house?
Idk dude. I'd feel much more exposed in the latter situation. What kind of twisted type of dude could be OK with his wife bringing guys home to fuck? Could his self disgust finally get the better of him and drive him to do something impulsive and stupid? How do you protect yourself from nefarious behavior when you're balls deep in her and he's coming up from behind?
I have to say Jimmy that I'm starting to wonder a bit about your situational assessment settings. 😁
For the others, their willingness, in my opinion will usually have a lot to do with how it is being presented. It is important never to treat them as prostitutes, as the will run many off, and there really is no reason to ever treat them that way.
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I decided to just act like I never found out and keep asking if she wanted to do more OTC dates. She eventually broke down one night at the club. She never actually told me about him or being engaged. She used our age as the excuse to not wanting to do OTC again. But it's pretty obvious to me she got a guilty conscience. He might have even known IDK really.
I would say even having a significant other, whether it be boyfriend, fiance, or husband OTC could still occur. Everyone has different situations and arrangements. Some may even know and be okay with it or encourage it if the money is good.