tips???
hi everyone
what is a good tip to give for a 20 dollar lap dance if you were happy with the mileage and over all experience? thanks
what is a good tip to give for a 20 dollar lap dance if you were happy with the mileage and over all experience? thanks
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2. Even if I did like it and for whatever reason stopped at one, I only tip for extraordinary service. "happy with the mileage and experience" sounds like par for the course good dance, exactly what I expect, but I don't tip for it.
It really all depends on what you can afford.
But it's more likely that I'll get more dances instead.
I never go to the lap dance room with the intent of only getting one dance. If they are exceptional, I get 5. Average is 3.
I don’t tip.
about 2 months ago, i had a dancer ask me for a tip after we had done 2 songs for 40 dollars. but in my experience, its very unusual for a dancer to *ask* for a tip after a lap dance. now if you voluntarily give them a tip---obviously they'll accept it---but i can count on one hand the amount of dancers who have actually asked for a tip after i've gotten a dance from them.
i normally don't tip for lap dances, but i've done it a very small handful of times
If i enjoyed her dances and received good mileage, I buy more dances or we can explore going to the VIP room.
The only time i expect a tip for dances is if I'm somewhere with some retarded 2 for 1 promo or whatever that i wasnt able to run to the dressing room in time to hide after the walk around. Or say some guy prepays a dance or dances and after the dance he is being weird and slow sorting thru his cash like almost obnoxiously. Then I am like "is that for me?!?!?!?!" In my most retarded bimbo way of talking.
lol its funny you mention this. i've seen this happen multiple times. often times the dancers body language will clearly indicate that they don't want to do the 2 for 1 special. they'll run to the dressing room after the 2 for 1 is called or they won't approach customers during the 2 for 1 special like they're suppose to.
its frustrating--especially in a club that has crazy high dance prices--like 10 bucks per minute (10 min for 100 bucks, 15 min for 150 bucks, etc)
I wouldn't really ask for advice on this. If I get tipped at all on top of a single dance- I've gotten from like $2-40 so it is all over the place lol.
I disagree - nothing wrong w/ the question - a better informed custy is good for the custy even if it means not so good for dancers - not specifically to tipping, but many uninformed custies get taken advantage of by certain dancers.
Fuck em. I'm not for sale.
Anyway if I end up somewhere with specials I just give the shittiest dance on earth if I end up doing one these days.
You dont have to tip for dances. But strippers do appreciate it. Simple
I realize you don’t make much off 2 for 1’s, but IMO intentionally giving a bad dance just because it’s a special is a bad idea because you could possibly establish a regular if you put forth good effort.
Dancers are bad at thinking long-term
Repeating myself
Have a wonderful day
Fucking idiots
you know i'm right--that's why you're going crazy with 5 posts in a row lololol
about 2 months or so ago, a dancer who really, really appealed to me gave me a a terrible half-assed lap dance in which she didn't even dance for the entire song, and yet i still had to pay her 30 damn dollars SMH. this girl was a total ROB. and the sad part is if she would have put in good effort, i would have dropped 130 bucks on her for a much longer dance. but her poor effort turned me off competely, and this girl was HOT! ( read my latest southside johnnys review, its the 2nd one from the top)
One day a customer can be gladly giving you a few hundred just to sit tableside and chit chat. Another day a customer thinks you’re a ROB for refusing to allow him to finger you at $20/song.
That being said, if a dancer keeps regulars, then that probably neutralizes the inefficiency somewhat.
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As far as the OP, tip what you think is fair. For me personally, I usually get 2-5 songs off a typical customer at a time and I assume that when he’s a one-and-done he wasn’t quite happy with my dance for whatever reason.
But if he gives me a $5 tip then I know he did actually like the dance. So that’s probably a good tip as far as showing appreciation.
U fuckheads are real funny coming across as disrespectful lil bitches then are surprised when I say something back
wow, how immature is blahblah SMH
Also maybe he got a shit dance because the dancer couldnt stand him hmm for 1 reason or another.. I can see that.
I make way more money charging higher than lower. Whatever. I know my b4 i started doing that and my after i started #s. Like damn
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In my area, the clubs that offer dance specials attract lower caliber dancers and those dancers don’t seem to like honoring the specials. So it’s not a smart move to have them here.
But in other areas, like Scarlett’s in Miami, which is one of the few non-brothel clubs there, I guess them having a dance special every hour is to dancer’s benefits? I never actually worked there, but I’m assuming it gives them a springboard to start pitching VIP if I were to guess.
WOW, blahblahblah you have a really short fuse haha
I've met GoVikings IRL, he's a really friendly guy, I don't see any reason why a dancer would have an issue with him.
I'll come back to this later. I'm not gonna have a fun day tomorrow and was trying to distract myself, instead I pissed myself off posting on here.
Not too sure whether my style evens out with others profit wise or if I’m sabotaging myself lol.
Plus upcharging is actually frowned upon despite the fact that (in Austin) the cabanas are so high priced for customers (compared to other places a customer could go...like Vegas) And that kind of nonsense makes me wish that club sanctioned standard dance prices were higher. Ugh.
But that brings me back to what I said earlier in this thread: “With dance prices and fair value, what is “fair” and “value” is a weird concept and displays that strip clubs are a truly inefficient market.”
Just my opinion on that.
Yeah I get that. I've used TUSCL before as a way to "blow off steam" but I find that "blowing off steam" can be a bit of an addictive feeling and eventually you just lose control of that need. Its good to have something around that can relieve stress and calm you down if you're feeling pissed off or anxious about something. As for using TUSCL for distraction. Holy hell I know that feeling lol. Anyway though, hope your day doesn't go too badly.
As for upcharging dances, i have never paid more than the established rate (which seems to be fixed at the clubs i frequent, as the girls usually have to pay a portion to the house as well), and if a girl asked for more than that, it would be a non-starter from the get go. If she asked for the "upcharged" rate after the dance, i'd just laugh and refuse and pay the house rate and let her deal with the dance counter. But this theoretical situation has NEVER happened IME, upcharged dance prices, except in the case where a club hires a feature porn star / performer where the dance prices stated upfront are generally $20 more each. Never partook in those either.
I also generally consider stacking dances, say 3+ dances, is a tip in itself, but many dancers don't seem to see it the same way or maybe they're just greedy. Think about it, it takes about 3 songs to get just one dance, the song before you go to the chump station, the song of the dance, and the song after you finish, and that doesn't include the time it takes to sell the dance in the first place, which might also take a few songs. So it takes a lot of time to get only one dance if the dancer can only sell one, but if she sells 3 or more than that's like an hour worth of "work" that she only took around 10-15 minutes of "dance" time plus however long it took to sell the dances.
I started a discussion about this many moons ago...
https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php…
You're already out $10 more.
That said, I usually work these things out before the dance so that we're all on the same page. I very rarely have these awkward encounters.
If a dancer wants extra money over the club rate, then give me a great experience and I will tip generously and seek out a dancer on a regular basis. But if you ask or upcharge?... ain't gonna happen.
BlahBlah said “Anyway if I end up somewhere with specials I just give the shittiest dance on earth if I end up doing one these days.”
When I used to go to the Foxy Lady I used 2-for-1 specials as a way to audition new-to-me dancers. My thinking was that a dancer who tried to make me happy during a special was almost guaranteed to be a great time when the regular rates kicked in. That worked for me, for what it's worth.
I'm not going to say that BlahBlah's approach is wrong. From the dancers' perspectives, perhaps she makes more money with less work. I have no idea. But I will say that she's probably the wrong dancer for me, which is fine. That's why there are other dancers.
Generally a $20 dance in these parts will be topless only. Nude dances are almost always $30. There's also a lot more mileage that seems possible in a nude dance...
To me, upcharging is more blatant than asking for a tip, because it asks/demands for a specific amount, and also multiplied by each dance. Again, i've never dealt with this, and i would just laugh, as it would never work around here outside of literally stupid PLs that got tricked by ROBs. Yes, it would be considered straight up ROB behavior here as dance prices are set and generally posted in the club...
When dancers use this term I'm not sure if the mean:
a) getting custies to do the more expensive options available in the club - e.g. trying to sell the custy on the $30 nude-dance vs the $20 topless-dance, or "upsell" to VIP?
b) or is upselling charging more than the club rate - e.g. lap-dances are $20 but a dancer wants to charge $30?
It can either be “if you want to touch it’s $X” or just a flat out “the dance price is $Y”
B=upcharge
A. "I purposefully give poor dances, and I don't give a shit what the customer thinks."
B. "I have GPS, and I'm going to get the most $ I can from this sap and and give as little in return as possible."
Or
C. It's complete SS and the higher cost dances are no better than the less costly ones, but what the hell, it's worth a shot at getting this chump to pay me more."
Any one of the 3, I'll take my business elsewhere.
The other example i can think of is where during an obvious 2 for 1 promotion, after the girls are working the floor grabbing PLs for dances, a dancer might approach me just slightly after the other dancers, but the promotional dances still haven't started yet, and act like the promotion isn't in effect. A less savvy PL might not ask her before he goes, if this was a 2 for 1, and get suckered into going and get surprised when she asks after the first dance, if he wants another.
I do consider both of these practices shady if not outright ROBish. And i don't think any PL, TUSCLer or not would receive upcharging well if he knew that he was being upcharged. And that might be the difference. A TUSCLer or veteran would already know or quickly understand how much dances and what was expected for them typically cost. A newbie or someone that might be embarrassed or intimidated to question a dancer's prices might go along with the upcharge even if he thought it was off, but that club/dancer has probably lost that PL forever.
I never upcharge after the fact. That even makes me angry as a dancer.
How a dancer runs her business in the club is none of my business. It might be frustrating (if I really like her look) and I may not like it, but it's still none of my business.
"And yet I make more money at clubs that dont have dance specials! LOL
Fuck em. I'm not for sale.
Anyway if I end up somewhere with specials I just give the shittiest dance on earth if I end up doing one these days."
If you intentionally give bad dances on specials then of course you are going to make less money. So you make less money when you give bad dances versus when you give good dances.
I like it when a dancer hears that it's a special and encourages you to take advantage of it. That's about as special as a dancer can make you feel at a club that she offers you a free dance or to spend time with you at a reduced rate.
I agree, but that is taken into account with how I decide to spend my money.
Obviously the dancers know the financials better than us PLs, but some things don't make sense to me.
I don't understand how a dancer makes less money doing a 2 for 1 special than she makes hiding in the dressing room. If the guy doesn't do more dances afterwards, just move on to the next customer. Unless this just encourages PLs to wait for the specials in which case they should be infrequent and maybe have variations.
I would imagine that if she does a lame dance during the special, the likelihood of getting more lucrative dances later are greatly diminished.
here is what Yatzee wrote
>I like it when a dancer hears that it's a special and encourages you to take advantage of it. That's about as special as a dancer can make you feel at a club that she offers you a free dance or to spend time with you at a reduced rate.<
How you do business, is your business, but I agree with that statement, and I'd bet many more do than don't.
One free dance when a dancer would otherwise just be sitting down doesn't seem like a lot to me, but I'm not the one giving the dance.
Totally different perspective, and no 2 dancers or customers are the same.
Absolutely agree. This can also be extended to trying to tell me that I'm having fun wrong.
My club experience (and money) is mine.
I save my sanity and deal with better customers now the way I do things. Weed out lot of grabby nasty cheap fucks.
Like the only time I do not have an issue with 2 for 1s is if I am already doing a long string of dances for someone and then gotta honor some 2 for 1 or whatever. Like yeah that is fine. But the fuckheads that sit and specifically wait for 2 for 1s. Hah I have nothing nice to say. They are the grabbiest/most soul sucking customers I just wanna murder.
Believe it or not, dancers have complimented me a lot on my "strip club etiquette"
I go to strip clubs to have fun. I admit I treat them like regular clubs but I tip the staff and friends and bitches, but if I want to spend time with a dancer I'll take care of her. Like one club has buy 4 get 1 dance free. So I tip them the price of the free dance, $20 and give them another $20 to cover what the club takes from them. One of my bitches works at a club where they have $10 table dances, I always get one and give her $100.
Strip clubs aren't cheap.... if a guy can't afford it he shouldn't go.
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But that may be different than club sanctioned dance specials. Idk. The only time I dealt with that was because I went to a club others had recommended, and didn’t realize that dances were $5 on a Monday until 11pm. I believe that since then they have extended that to all night. Gotta love that race to the bottom. On one hand, somehow I made it out ~okay~ I made about $400 for the night. But it was the principle of it that irked me. I didn’t give bad dances but I never went in since.
Especially because I realized this club had a dance special every day that wasn’t Friday and Saturday.
From what I’ve gathered, that club isn’t as well liked from the customers as it used to be either...except for the determined extras hounds. So I guess, one gets what they pay for.
Me personally, that experience was what motivated me to go online and get a TUSCL account in the first place. To figure which clubs had dance specials and I could avoid :)
Nicespice, it depends on the club. I have a friend who loves day shift at a club in Vegas that has lunch specials and discounts for construction workers, and $10 lap dances. She makes like $400 to $700 a day coz of the volume of customers and since they don't spend much money on drinks and food, they tend to tip more.
Someone got "irony" on their word-of-the-day calendar...
I do think that everyone would rather think of themselves as predator rather than prey. Customers would rather think of themselves as scoring pussy; strippers would rather think of themselves as hustlers than as sex objects performing for money. In the case of your average strip club customer, strippers may well be right that they are more predator than prey. How many times have your regular-guy friends said they'd gone to the strip club, stripper talked him into spending way more $ than he planned, he got way less action than he thought he would? Opposite with most PLs, I imagine, and even on StripperWeb they acknowledge this -- we are after what we're after, and dismiss her if there's any hint we won't get it. In the end, if I'm after a BJ for $xyz, and I get my BJ for $xyz, I'm happy. And honestly, if the stripper wants to convince herself that she "hustled" me for $xyz, that's fine with me -- I'm fine with both sides thinking they've won, in fact I prefer my stripper thinking she was treated fairly and got what she wanted out of the transaction. As a PL, don't let the SW-types and hustler-types get you into zero-sum thinking; the only thing you should be thinking about is "I want ABC for $xyz", and if you get it, you've won (and hopefully, she's won, too). One of things that makes SW so toxic is the relentless zero-sum-game thinking. I don't ever want my ATF to think she's "lost" or whatever. I just need to get what I want.
The big problem with some hoes though is that they see the trick or the trick's money a prize. That's a mistake. They need to realize that they're the prize and deserve the money they get, and more. If she sees tricks lining up for blowjobs, a smart hoe ups her price. She also perfects her skills to make that shit last as short a time as possible so she gets the most for her time.
But for strippers....and I'm distinguishing them from hookers as it should be. They equate their self worth with $$$ a lot of times and finessing customers(making them want to give her money) makes her look good to everyone else.While it makes the customer appear as a cash cow. The big status thing for strippers is having a drug dealer boyfriend. Especially if she meets him at the club or he visits her. Strippers get mad jealous when a drug dealer comes in and brings his bitch pizza, drugs and showers her with cash. You see a lot of that one or two hours before a shift ends usually. Some bitches try to outdo each other....its kinda funny. I guess it depends on the club too though.
But alas, I wouldn’t agree to meet him OTC. So the cash flow stopped.
Also Icey, you seem opinionated about Stripperweb. Would you like to reveal what your screename on that site is?
You’re an idiot, it’s actually unregulated capitalism, pure consumerism straight from Adam Smith, the original, wrote the wealth of nations and defined capitalism before it was corrupted by regulations, it would be funny if you actually knew what the fuck you were talking about.
NiceSpice, I discovered SW through this site and only lasted a few days on there before I was banned. I found the site to be full of the hoe version of the tricks on here...bitches trying to do their very best to avoid stating that all they are is hoes, just like tricks on here will use every excuse and euphemism to avoid being honest with themselves.
You should have gone out with the drug dealer lol
"Lap dances are not illegal nor a black-market "
I thought you preferred to get your lap dances in a black market.
I dont mind drink specials or whatever or cover specials food etc that much
Extra attention like extras? No.
>You always resort to inane attempts at insults when you can't reply lulz
lulz?? You have got to be a woman in real life.
ehem ....... manager ?
I'm not sure if you're just funny, naive or a fucking idiot or perhaps all three.... Now you're saying that I have an agenda coz I choose to be semi anonymous(no one is ever fully anonymous online) on a forum that essentially focuses on prostitution and a site where men review strip clubs based on where they can find the most hookers working.... Nice.
And according to you, I'm not to be taken seriously for stating that prostitution is illegal and that hookers have pimps LMFAO
For $500 I would expect more than just sitting longer/chatting...
I know you said you don’t allow extras but at least can one try & grope your boobs when paying $500...
I’m usually not an extras guy...
I love getting multiple dances...
If a stripper grabs & massages my cock during dances plus allows me access to grope her boobs at will that equals a perfect night for me...
Assuming I’m spending about $500 on you for the night, are there any do’s & don’t during dances...
In all seriousness, I tip only after a good VIP session or when the dancer spends time chatting with me. I tip her $20 per half hour talk time. Good or bad, that is my rate for her taking the time to chat with me. I don’t tell her that I am going to do so, I just simply do it. This way, she can come and go to hit up others if she wishes and no hard feelings from me. I realize they are there to make money making PLs feel good about whatever. I do not waste the dancers time. I pay them for their time. But, that is just how I like to club.