What are the different VIP costs?

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nicespice
In Austin, I think it used to be maybe $700-$800 total out of pocket cost to the customer (room charge+dancer set-your-own-rate) for VIP a few years ago. Now it’s higher.

Granted, Austin has expanded a lot, so it makes sense that there is more money flowing in. Usually, that money is from out of towners and not locals.

But then in other clubs in different areas, it seems like VIPs are $300-$500/hr.

What is typical in other areas?

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dancewdcpa
6 years ago
I've done 1/2 hours plenty of times in plenty of places but not an hour... around 300-400 so I guess double that for an hour and it seems the same as your numbers Nicespice...
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Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
In South FL 30-minutes is the norm - usually ~$100 room-fee ~$300 for the dancer
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Cristobal
6 years ago
In COI VIP room fee range from $110 for 15 minutes, $160 for 30 minutes.

The tips very depending on the service and the dancer, my estimate would be low end $ for FS, average is $$ for FS.
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twentyfive
6 years ago
I agree @Papi here in S Florida runs between $3-700 for an hour total all included.
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Summit21
6 years ago
Man I feel spoiled after learning of Follies and TJ from Tuscl.

I guess Follies might just be an outlier. Typically around 150 for 30 minutes.

I would pay for spice if I am ever in the area
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flagooner
6 years ago
The $3 end of the spectrum must be for the crack addicted, AIDS infected pregnant whore that sleeps behind the dumpster.
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flagooner
6 years ago
Seeing some of those prices...

That's another reason I've never done a VIP session. That's insane.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
There are spots in the midwest that are $150 for 30 min (even some of the bigger towns like Indianapolis). I never met anyone that charges that little tho.

I mean high vip costs make sense if there is a constant willing market for them. But if it is a club where a normal day is like 30 girls but only 1 or 2 sell vip/champagne room. Hmm maybe prices should be lower (within reason)? Seen some of that too
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twentyfive
6 years ago
^What a fucking nitpicker you couldn’t figure out $300-$700 you patronizing fucker ;)
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twentyfive
6 years ago
Sorry Blah that was for the patronizing fucker that posted ahead of you;)
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Piggie
6 years ago
In Seattle DV clubs, $150 for 15mins. $280 for 30 mins, $400 for 1 hour. Few charges no extra $ for HJ and high mileage.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
I'm surprised Seattle is so cheap..! There is money there lol
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nicespice
6 years ago
Do most customers buy VIPs or something? I would also have thought it would be more, since I heard the house fees are really high.
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Daddillac
6 years ago
I'm typically a follies guy and I can finish in 30 minutes meaning 152 at the low end 200 at the high end
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whodey
6 years ago
That's what I like most about the clubs in Louisville, an hour in VIP can be had for $200-$300. Half hour sessions run from $100-$160 which is usually long enough for me and I will always get at least 1 VIP each night while I am in town. Extra fun can be had for a reasonable tip on top of that.

At these price points the VIP rooms stay fairly business most shifts and a couple of times I've had to wait for a room to open up.

I can't even imagine why people would spend $600-800/hr unless that price included FS.
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DeclineToState
6 years ago
I assume OP's question is for closed room VIP (not VIP chair or couch), regular price not specials, and not including any upcharge for extras. That said:

San Francisco (and no, I haven't done all these, just aware of the insane prices):
-TL clubs range $350-$450/30min depending on club, and $700-$800/1hour.
-North Beach FN clubs: $300/30min at lower end clubs, and $350/30min at Centerfolds (doesn't include MBOT or Crazy Horse, I've never been).

Reno TL clubs: $300/30min
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flagooner
6 years ago
Wow, I've been on this discussion board but never realized the VIP prices were so insanely high. Maybe because I'm always reading the Follies stories. I guess I've always assumed that when I'd read $300 about other clubs it was the total cost.

People have written that OTC prices should be about the same as what you can get at the club. Are we talking $500 for OTC? I always thought about $150-$200 sounded right.

DAYUM!!!

I'm glad I haven't progressed that far.
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TFP
6 years ago
@DeclineToState: Centerfolds upped their half hour from $350 to $450 at exactly the same time they forced their dancers into employee status. But no one does the half hour at that price anyway, they wait for the two for one so they can get an hour for $450. At Garden of Eden and Roaring 20's in SF, the price I'm always quoted for a half hour is $400. Never done VIPs there as that's just too much for a half hour IMO.

Remembering some of the clubs I've been to, in Vegas at Spearmint Rhino it's $250 total for half hour VIP (includes $50 two drink minimum). At Sapphire and Treasures it's $300/half hour (includes 4 drinks). In Philly at Oasis it was $280 for a half hour.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
That's funny. I wonder the f SR lexington (kentucky) is thinking trying to charge $880 min for an hour and the cut is fuckshit so little motivation to push the vip there. Funny that vegas would be cheaper but I have heard the same from many others
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Muddy
6 years ago
Suckers! Good thing I can cum fast.
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DeclineToState
6 years ago
@TFP, thanks for the assist, I didn't realize the SF FN prices had risen.
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shadowcat
6 years ago
Hey Daddillac - They are no longer asking for the $2 so it's just $50 to the house now for 30 minutes.
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DeclineToState
6 years ago
Have never clubbed in Vegas, and like blahblah, I'm surprised Vegas would be cheaper than SF.

The Northern Calif pricing nonsense emphasizes the bargain nature of TJ, both bad and good for me I don't live closer.
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pitts1
6 years ago
$150 to $175 is what I pay in south FL.
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twentyfive
6 years ago
Where ? What does that include ? Seems dirt cheap unless you're going to real dumps!
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Nidan111
6 years ago
Depends on club. In the St Louis (IL Side), FS can be had for $100 to $200 in a nonprivate booth ($100) or in a closed room with lock on door ($200) .... or... you can get a VIP Room with maybe some groping in a fancy club for $600 per hour. ... or.... you can get frustrated at the club and just hop across the street to the AMPs and have an hour of whatever the fuck you want for $200.
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WILLYSGOTAWOMAN
6 years ago
only a belly button fucker would pay $800
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steeldog65
6 years ago
Club 290 in Chicago Hts-Room is 300 1/2 hour and 550 for 1 hour I believe with a 20-40 tip to the bouncer and what you negotiate with the girl
Atlantis nearby in Ford Hts- Room is 300-1/2 hour and-500 or 600 1 hour depending on room same tip and then negotiate with the girl. I have gotten plenty of fun in Atlantis at no additional cost three times.
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Nixur68
6 years ago
Midwest is at least $200-400 and no funny business outside of major cities.
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Nixur68
6 years ago
DL9428 where the hell are you finding escorts? Ever since TER shutdown everything else is too hit or miss.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
Ya I was like I never heard of $150 escorts That must be 1 STD riddled ugly whore I gotta say LOL. Idk maybe I sound bad but if I was a dude I wouldn't exactly bargain shop for the highest volume highest risk hooker?? To each their own.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
I like the $250-$300ish range for a half hour. I feel like it isn't so hard to sell that anyway. and $150ish for 15 min.

But sometimes I pitch higher prices if I sense a cheap grabby fuck or they are from a more expensive hookery state like Texas. hahaha. It's the difficult customer tax.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
huh that is interesting lol. I just don't get the point of those prices tho. That just is way too low. A whole lotta fucking for a whole lotta nothing!
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Liwet
6 years ago
> Do most customers buy VIPs or something? ~~nicespice~~

The big reason is due to privacy; a lot of customers aren't comfortable being groped on in public. Others don't know that floor dances exist or really don't see the value in them.
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Piggie
6 years ago
@blah, most PL here are blue collar or older. DV even has amazon, microsoft, starbuck day, where they get entry discount, but still I still never see tech nerds there, maybe they are too busy working 80 hour weeks or playing video games.
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Piggie
6 years ago
@nicespice, I'm told house fee is$180
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Piggie
6 years ago
@nicespice, the VIP rooms are not used often, I've always been the only one back there. $30 lap dance areas does get a lot of traffic. Lots of regulars, mostly older.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
Idk DC imma 100% disagree. Unless these girls are making absurd money there is no reason to be fucking a million strangers a yr for something like 75k. There are millions of jobs u can do for that including other sex work that doesnt actually involve sex. I'd rather work a 40 hour a week job for 75k than work under 10 hrs but be fucking randos.

$150? I've gotten dudes to pay that for 15 minutes even somewhere without VIPs or time options. But I was getting tired of chasing laps in a lapdance only club lmfao.

Maybe these girls fuck for so little cuz they have no intelligence or sales skills my god lol.
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steeldog65
6 years ago
^^^ true perspective.
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flagooner
6 years ago
@blahblah

Either those customers were really drunk or money was unimportant to them.

Wait, that would equate to 5 $30 dances at 3 minutes per. I can see that for schmos where that is the going rate. Damn I've been spoiled. I'd quit the hobby if that was my only option.
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flagooner
6 years ago
^ @DC "hookers who charge mid-range but still reasonable prices seem to enjoy it a lot more."

Damn, if they enjoy it so much maybe you should charge them.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
To each their own. I just feel like whoring for money is the point at which you will do anything in the world for money no matter the personal cost. Personally if I was willing to go anything in the world for money and dont give a fuck the personal cost I'd wanna be like some elite assassin or something. I hear they make hella bank! LOL
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
Flag this was a $25 dance club but it was always dead or almost always. Club takes $5 cut per dance. Anyway I found it very emotionally taxing chasing dance after dance not to mention guys seem to expect a lot with dances and I started getting sick of being groped. So out of towners I would just hit up the $150 for 15 min. Songs there r more like 4 min ish some longer some shorter. So maybe in that time frame of dances normally I'd only make like $80ish. Instead I made it $130 being creative. I just stopped giving half of a fuck about customers at that point and I wasnt there for much longer anyways.
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nicespice
6 years ago
“I just feel like whoring for money is the point at which you will do anything in the world for money no matter the personal cost.”

:(

Idk...I have boundaries too, but those are definined by what’s acceptable in my relationship. Otherwise, I probably wouldn’t mind engaging in profit maximizing activities. (With courtesy towards whatever club norms of course)

And I know that if I was down for that, there would be a heck lot of less management/customer bullshit I’d be willing to put up with.

But I guess in my mind, sex at any price, whether $0 or $1B, isn’t something that harms individuals sense of self, or ability to be a good or creative person.

It’s maybe even fun sometimes. (Caveat though, I prefer older men over younger personally. And I care more about personality/intelligence than looks. So it would be easier for me to get over any ick factor)
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rogertex
6 years ago
^ +1
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Daddillac
6 years ago
@Shadowcat.... I have always negotiated to 150 then given a 10 dollar tip so I never worried about the 152, I just know that is what they quoted forever lol
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
I dont care who does what so long as the price is absurdly high enough that it doesn't interfere with me.
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April9424
6 years ago
lately austin has the highest rate of anywhere i have ever worked including vegas, santa monica, orange county, and new orleans. i think it's ridiculous and often catch shit from other dancers and waitresses for charging too little- which i don't think i am, and i frequently have seen girls get rejected and lose out on a cabana sale because they insist on pushing for $1000 an hour. that's absurd to me unless they are doing something i don't know about which i don't think is the case. that's awesome if they can work that way- but i hate being pressured into it when i'd rather sell more rooms for less on a more consistent basis. rhino in vegas is around 4-500 for an hour of "mostly private" which IMO is what a cabana is, since it's kinda see through. i suppose hustler club is about as expensive as austin *but* they have 100% private rooms with doors that shut and mileage tends to be higher so that makes sense to me
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nicespice
6 years ago
Yeah. It wears on me. I’ve tried going along with it a few times, and join the other 10-20 dancers at any one time who stare at the entrance waiting for Mr McBaller to show up. But I get bored and lose patience. The couple of times I’ve been in a cabana, it was because the customer decided it and I went along with it.

Every once in a while, I’ll get $400-$700 off a single customer on the floor just talking/dancing with him. So I’d like to think I have a charming enough personality. But those rates would still make you a cheap ho by the standards here.

Realistically, I’m usually just lap hopping. Getting $500-$950 isn’t too tough to come by while doing that. Sometimes I wonder whether I’m shooting myself in the foot by doing that though.
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twentyfive
6 years ago
I’ve said this before and I still believe it to be the truth, I don’t believe that most dancers go home with as much money as they claim on the forums, I find it difficult to understand how a woman or a man can make $2500. a week and not have enough money to buy a decent car, keep a phone turned, on and always be short when the rent is due.
While I know this is not all dancers there’s enough that this is a sad fact of life.
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nicespice
6 years ago
@DC “Btw, what is "a cabana?" I've never heard that term in VA.”

It’s a sectioned off booth with transparent curtains surrounding you. As for cost splitting, the club takes their own rate of ranges $100-$550. And then the dancer rate is whatever dancers charge on top of that.

I guess I can’t whine too much. I’d rather deal with a snotty environment than a race-to-the-bottom with $100 blowjobs. But still.
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nicespice
6 years ago
@25 this is true.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
Right twentyfive. I've met a lot of girls that claim x amt but literally dont have shit of their own to show for it. I'm sure some girls do make it and it is bad spending habits but I feel a lot of them lie too.
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blahblahblah23
6 years ago
To be fair most strippers I encounter are really fucking stupid and jealous/catty of any girl that does well. I think the stupid has something to do with having nothing to show for after like 10-15 yrs in the biz which I see a lot
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dancewdcpa
6 years ago
While it seems to have gone off the original topic, this has been a great discussion to follow... VIP worthy indeed!
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rl27
6 years ago
Where I am, it's typically 150 for 15 minutes, 250 to 300 for a half hour, double that for an hour at most clubs, although there are a few dives where it's 150 to 200 for half hour and double that for an hour.

There used to be a few clubs where it was a $75 entrance fee to the champagne room for a half hour and $125 an hour, the rest was up to the dancer.
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Nixur68
6 years ago
I don't know if there a tech people on tuscl but the last time I went to tootsie's it was the Amazon's CFOs bachelor party. What was funny is all the dudes sitting around not getting VIP and the girls pissed but most folks had a fun time just chilling in the booths upstairs buying couch dances.

On the flips side, there's a ton of tech money in Austin and the city is freaking expensive hence the high VIP Prices.

Last but not least, most of the girls I've spoken to just have stripping as a side gig. They want shoes, clothes or that BMW, Mercedes, etc. Once they've saved up enough they quit and go back to to their regular gig. I can't speak for all them but they seemed fiercely financially independent and that was the goal but they want that car and it paid off right away.

YMMV.
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