Trump Totally Wrong About Border and Wall

#freemyniggaelchapo

there was already a wall in SD.

talk about a wall is just a way to legitimate racism against latinos

@Trap
I have a fence around my house. Does that mean I am a bad person?

I will admit it was here when I bought the house. It is nice it keeps people out of your yard. And no dog poop inside the fence!

Good article, @SJG. Eugene Robinson is a terrific journalist.

SJG, what is an acceptable percentage of violent criminals that we should allow into America? In your opinion, out of all immigrants, illegally or legally entering the country, what is an acceptable percentage of known violent criminals that should be allowed?

They don't have any documents so you can't see who if anyone has a criminal background.

I would say that 99% are just people fleeing abject poverty caused by American foreign policy in the region.

Musterd21, these are people who get abused and used as cheap illegal labor by American businesses. They exchange one form of poverty and exploitation for another. The dog poop is the exploitive system not the people.

Founder, this is a free society. People can move about freely. There is already in this some violent criminals, people who are wanted. If they are found, they can be arrested. But just the idea that there could be some number of known violent criminals in migrants is not an adequate reason to build such a wall. The vast majority of people who come across the boarder without documentation do so in motor vehicles.

We have no wall with Canada. Most countries have no such walls.

Most violent crime is committed against people by people they know, not strangers.

Trump originally floated this idea of a wall, just to get elected. It panders to racism.

Now he fights for it, in order to keep his far right base of pundits behind him.

SJG

I have lived, worked, and socialized with Mexican's for decades. On the whole they are more gentle and humane than white people are.

Ever watch Natural Born Killers? Stone was saying that that is what Americans are like.

David Stuart, future Dean of UNM, was in Mexico in his early 20's, about 1970, Guaymas.

https://www.amazon.com/Guaymas-Chronicle…

Mexicans consider Americans to be loners.

Stuart became god father to a baby girl. When she was 18yyo, he was able to arrange for her to attend UNM, Albuquerque. Of the US she questioned, why all the big green lawns in the Sonora Desert? Why do all the cars have just one person in them? Why are all the pedestrians homeless people, don't they have families?

They say that Americans are loners, but really what they mean is that they are psychopaths.

In his memoirs, Vicente Fox explains that if you can make allowances for the Drug Wars caused by US demand, then Mexico, a still not fully industrialized nation, has a homicide rate less than the US.

By all accounts, P4P is far more genteel in Mexico. It certainly is in our local Mexican Bar underground circuit.

Mexican's only turn strange when they have been living in the US, on the margins, for some time. One indicator that a Mexican-American family has disintegrated is when they have become completely fatalistic, i.e. Pentecostal.

SJG

For years, they smuggled drugs through tunnels. But as law enforcement learned about these underground channels, they turned to other means: trucks and other vehicles, stuffed with drugs in inconspicuous and creative ways, passing through legal ports of entry into the United States.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/201…

N.J. bill would treat government shutdown like a natural disaster to help federal workers pay their property taxes
http://www.philly.com/news/property-tax-…

States warn food stamp recipients to budget early benefit payments due to shutdown

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/states…

SJG

The real question, why are people fleeing their homelands because of American foreign policy.

The immigrant fallout of said policy is basically America's actions abroad coming back home to remind the country of what it does and what it is responsible for.

EU member states have clauses in their immigration laws which recognize the fact that the colonialism and imperialism of certain European and Western powers are the reason for these people's plights.

Even if one opposes immigration, there's a point where you have to support human decency. There is nothing humane about a wall and ditches with barbed wire aimed to control the influx of the people most exploited by capitalism in this country.

I'm all for easy, legal immigration. I know of no other country in the world where you can just come in and strart living off the government.

We have so many domestic problems in America. Having more people in this country illegally only exacerbates them. America needs to heal itself first, then it can continue to be a bastion of freedom for the rest of the world.

But wtf do I know. I'm just an old white guy that progressives would rather see dead than speak his mind.

Everytime I hear someone call someone else a mysognist, or a racist, or xenophobic, I tune out. Those words mean NOTHING anymore. Overused by the liberals who don't appreciate how this country was built, and the sacrifices of the generations that came before us.

Nobody gets a free lunch just because you were born. I was raised by an absent single mom, put myself through college, taught myself how to write software, took and continue to take risks with this website all to make my life better.

With the money I make from this site, in addition to paying taxes on it, I donate to charity, sponsor a college scholarship, and help many others financially.

So take your socialist nonsense elsewhere. I'm tired of people expecting the government to take care of them.

You can't address systemic problems without addressing the system.

#Imwithfounder

I was raised in a Mexican neighborhood by a woman. The only systemic problem I know of is when a person thinks he or she is being marginalized. Nobody is forced to work for less than they are worth. Everyone is free to choose his or her value.

The system in America works, if you take advantage of the system. Don't sit around and whine and hope for the government to provide for you. Government cheese tastes like shit, because it is shit.

There is plenty of money to be earned in America, stop expecting it to be given to you.

Cheers Founder, drinks on me! :-)

I agree with much of what you said @founder but the amount of chaos surrounding this administration is disheartening, in my lifetime I have never seen the state of politics in this country as chaotic and fearful as it is at the present time.

I agree w 25 but I'm not as old. :) That said for all the shit the left talks about and obsesses Trump, they are as much to blame for putting up a corrupt burned out hag and an extreme socialist who looks like a pedo.

That said, I'm for better border security not sure the wall is the answer but an electric fence that zaps you and you die sounds good.

Welfare exists to serve the private sector. In exchange for propping up politicians, politicians in turn use welfare to subsidize depressed private sector wages, to keep the slaves at a subsistence level.

Immigrants don't come for handouts, they really just exchange one form of poverty for another. They exchange exploitation by US puppet elites for exploitation by the American private sector. The class of illegal cheap labor is America's modern day slave caste.

and yes fake liberal politicians are to blame as well. The Dems and Reps represent 2 sides of the same coin. Both serve the same system.

25, the only reason you think this administration is in chaos is because that's what the media shows you. Did you see the media ever report anything negative about Obama? I can't remember any negativity being reported. Everything he did was portrayed as positive by the media.

Yes, Trump fires people who don't want to work FOR him. That's the breaks. Trump surrounds himself with people who share and support his vision. I don't think that is unusual for the President. The media just reports the chaos so the don't have to do any real journalism.

So you believe this shutdown is not chaos, fuck what the media is saying about it,, what about folks that aren't getting paid and are being deemed essential like the coast guard, sorry this stuff is ego driven, nobody's best interest is being served here. I take it you aren't a New York guy, one day if we ever meet up I could tell you some stories, you wouldn't believe, but being in the construction business all of my adult life, I know for a fact.
BTW Trump fires people in the most cowardly way, never face to face, that's an actual fact.
You believe the volatility in the market is a good thing, well that's because you have a ways to go before you retire, my friend.
Just like you I support an awful lot of people, donate to charity, and do some mentoring two days a month. I agree this new socialist agenda is going to hurt small business folks a lot, we don't have the money for lobbyists, and every one of those free things they want will be paid for by guys like us, not the lazy entitled fucks looking for government cheese.

How many times has a big wall that covers more ground than just a city worked? In my world or yours?

The shutdown is absolutely ego driven. By the President and by the Democratic leaders. Trump is great at compromise. He wrote the damn book. The Democratic leaders refuse to budge. That is not helping at all.

They need to talk. But everyone hates Trump. So fuck it. Let the government workers go hungry. They will still vote for Pelosi, et. al.

You have your opinions and I have mine, I doubt anything I say will change that, but still I'd like to see a change in the White House.

25, Obama's 8 years were the worst I've witnessed economically as a small business owner. Consumer confidence and spending was way down. Lots of strip clubs took a beating. But Obama was cool and suave and rubbed elbows with movie stars. That made us all feel a little cooler. But it didn't help our economy.

I don't know what the point of rehashing Obama, is that's gone, for better or worse, and the downturn predated Obama, the beat down started towards the 6th year of Bush 2, point of the matter no matter who's in power, its always small business that pays the bills, and even with the economy in the crapper I did fine, Rich guys like Trump and his cronies, never have a dime in their pocket, and always look for someone else to pick up the tab, and poor folk's just struggling to get ahead, don't really want to hear about our problems, this war has been waged on the middle class forget about the media, they never do get anything right. I became a Reagan Republican when he said the scariest words ever that any one could ever hear were, " I'm from the government and we're here to help" that was the first time I realized that there was a man, there, that actually got it, unfortunately none since him have gotten it.

That's where we different. Trump is trying to shrink government, and that's a good thing.

No we both agree on shrinking the government, I think our disagreement is you believe Trump and I don't.

Shrink it by getting rid of corporate welfare and private sector contracts

I don't believe everything Trump says, but I also don't think the White House is in chaos, and I don't think he's doing a terrible job. He's keeping more promises than most politicians.

A lot of arguments for the wall is illegals bringing in illegal drugs any many Americans are overdosing, i say fuck them. Less competition for me to make money. if crack became illegal tomorrow, i would not start using crack because its legal.

"Let the government workers go hungry. They will still vote for Pelosi, et. al."

the thing is, its not the politicians that are going hungry, but the boots on the ground that are enforcing immigration laws. so the guys protecting you from illegal immigrants are the ones not getting paid..lol..in dealing with politics sometimes if you go too far right you end up being a lefty and vice versa.

My prediction:

Trump gets 5billion for border security.

Dems get to call it whatever they want.

America goes back to exploiting the naive.

I sold my tv a while ago and haven't been following the news. I remember Trump promising the American people that he will get Mexico to pay for the border wall.

Will they be paying in pesos or dollars? Have they made their first payment yet? If not, when are they making their first payment?

This Trump guy is amazing. I loved watching the show the Apprentice. I saw a behind the scenes documentary on it and they showed how the tv network had to pay to remodel his offices in Trump Tower, because they were old and run down and wouldn't look impressive on tv.

This Trump guy is a shrewd negotiator. First he gets the tv network to remodel his office and then he gets Mexico to pay for a wall.

I wouldn't be surprised if he can convince Canada to pay for us to return Justin Bieber and Drake.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, I don’t really think a wall will make much of a difference either way, my main concern is the economy and I think Trump is bulshitting us, he isn’t going to go down very well in history mainly because he’s such a divisive person, I do believe the republic will survive and at some point will get back on track, hopefully without a major catastrophe.

https://people.com/politics/apprentice-c…

"What's that smell?" Oh, it's just Trump's rank office.

In the recently released Netflix documentary The Confidence Man, two creators of The Apprentice discuss creating the “character” of Donald Trump as a billionaire business tycoon.

“What we did, that was a scam,” says producer Bill Pruitt. “That was an entertainment.”

Pruitt describes Trump’s real office within New York’s Trump Tower as dated, so the show built the boardroom where Trump uttered the now famous line “You’re Fired!” The famous boardroom was a set based on the classy, high-powered office portrayed in the movie Network.

“If you walked around Trump’s actual office in Trump Tower you’d see the wood’s chipped, and what’s that smell?” says Pruitt in the film. “It wasn’t the empire we were going to have to sell to people. We needed to gussy it up a bit. And we did.”

I don't think he's that devisive. I think the press represents him as devisive.


It's only when he beat their Queen did the left start hating on Trump.

So Trump doesn't waste money redecorating his office. That's a bad thing?

The reality, the film contends, is that by the early 1990s, The Trump Organization was facing over $3 billion of debt and its three Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt; in the following years leading to The Apprentice, Trump “was a man in trouble.”

“We wanted to show people that Donald Trump is not a good businessman when it comes to building a company and managing a company,” Stevens tells PEOPLE, “and I wanted to say how how scary it is that he is running the country because he doesn’t do due diligence on any of his deals.”

Timothy O’Brien, a Trump biographer, says in the film that his 2005 book, TrumpNation: The Art of Being The Donald, claimed that Trump was worth between $150 million to $250 million, far from being a billionaire. (Trump sued O’Brien a decade ago for libel, and lost.)

When banks were hesitant to loan Trump money due to multiple bank defaults and bankruptcies, The Confidence Man tells how Trump made licensing deals that put his name on a wide assortment of properties, giving the impression that he was king of a vast empire. On this premise he created the now-defunct Trump University, which in 2016 settled a $25 million fraud case.

It's not about saving money on remodeling. It's that everything about him is a con, a fraud, or a lie. He's a huge bullshitter as 25 said. Everything is a facade. He's not a self made billionaire. He inherited a shitload of money from his Dad and proceeded to go bankrupt multiple times. If the Apprentice didn't resurrect him, he'd be bankrupt now and would never have become president.

Not divisive? The majority of the American people can't stand him and it has nothing to do with Hillary. I don't like Hillary. People don't like him because he's arrogant, a liar, and a fraud. It's not just the American people that can't stand him. He's divisive with the rest of the world too, calling up world leaders and talking shit to them on the phone.

He's unfit to lead. He refuses to take responsibility for his mistakes. He always rewrites history to cover his lies. He's done this with the border wall, taking ownership of the shutdown, and countless other things.

In time, he'll be exposed even more for the fraud that he is.

Anyway, I won't go on anymore. I just can't stand frauds and liars.

That aside, I think you're a good dude Founder and thanks for this website and putting up with everyone who posts here.

@founder I’ll give you a bit of a clue to just how Trump operates, he lives on this,
If you or I owe some money say a million or thereabouts and we can’t pay the money back, we’re the ones in trouble but be sure that if you’re gonna get a loan of a hundred or two hundred million dollars when he defaults the bank is the one in trouble, he’s pulled that dozens of times, his empire is borrowed money, he blew through half a billion dollars that was left to him by dear old dad. That’s his art of the deal.

@founder one more thing to keep in mind disliking Trump doesn’t mean liking Hillary that’s a shitpile of crap talking point, and isn’t becoming of you or have a legitimate place in this discussion.

I never heard any bad press about Trump until he became a Republican candidate for president. That's a fact. He was never a racist, xenophobic, woman hater.

Yes, he's a wheeler dealer, but if you ask me, that's a GREAT quality to have for a politician.

And again, in my personal business, it has FLOURISHED in the last 2 years. And my business is based on how people feel about spending disposible income.

Trump is instilling confidence in some people in America.

Disagree all you want. My business tells another story.

^ That’s fair I don’t have any problem with that. We can disagree without being disagreeable, is what I always say.

Very happy for you Founder that your business is flourishing.

Bad press about Trump may not have been national or global until after he became the Republican candidate. However, people in the New York area and the Northeast have been reading bad press about Trump for decades in local newspapers. Long before he ran for President. It's nothing new.

Also, just fyi. I'm not a Democrat. I'm independent and vote both Republican and Democrat. My distaste for Trump is about him personally and has nothing to do with party lines.

Its not about Trump. Every president is a tool of the oligarchs that broker their campaigns.

Also Founder, the economy doing so well and your business flourishing is more a result of quantitative easing and the Fed pumping trillions of dollars of liquidity into the markets over the last ten years than it is about Trump.

Trump just happened to be in the right place at the right time after the trillions of dollars of liquidity finally took full effect. The only thing he should get credit for is the tax cut, which I'm sure has helped many small businesses such as yours and strip clubs. However, quantitative easing is the real reason the economy and consumer confidence has thrived.

The whole build a wall across the entire border idea is nonsense. Are we building a wall through mountain ranges? Most of Texas and some of New Mexico is divided from Mexico by the Rio Grande. Are we going to have a floating wall or just cede all the water rights to Mexico?

Private citizens have paid considerable money purchasing water front property and built gorgeous lake front homes along the border and what, the government is going claim an imminent domain easement and build a wall along the shoreline? Again with no consideration of flood planes or water rights.

The obvious solution is to get away from the vanity project of a big beautiful wall that can have the Trump name attached to it and instead appropriate funds to existing fencing upgrades and more importantly increased border security. Tunnels already exist. Drugs can be passed through slat fence/walls. If the money to be spent on a wall was spent on policing the border instead, it would be a much better deterrent.

And before I am called a liberal, I voted for Trump in the general election, but I sure as hell didn't vote for him in the primary.

I am a liberal, actually a Radical Leftist.


There is that G. W. Bush 43 wall, kind of like a very heavy duty fence. How many miles does it cover? Has anyone ever gotten around it?

It lets air, water, and small animals get through.

SJG

WTF is a Radical Leftist? Do you have homeless people living on your couch?

No, I do not have homeless people living on my couch. And why should they want to live on my couch anyway?

Radical Leftism means communalism and property re-distribution, as well as government ownership of many critical services. It means starting where Marx and Engels left off and going still further. Times changed, and it is necessary to go beyond what they could have imagined. Lots of thinkers have done this in the last century, and there are lots and lots of new ideas around now.

Marx and Engels after all were just critiquing what resulted from the French Revolution. They found it necessary to go further.

Well the same holds true today.

For example:
https://www.amazon.com/Four-Futures-Afte…

SJG

The diety Set and typhonian magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wo9Gp62…

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez first House floor speech (C-SPAN) (yesterday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5FBWkbA…

SJG

Strike! Barbara Ehrenreich Calls on TSA Workers to Walk Off Job in Protest of Government Shutdown
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/17/s…

( you can play the video on the above page )

SJG

Thanks for explaining radical leftism to me. I thought it meant sharing everything. That's why I asked if you housed the homeless.

I'd like to learn more about radical leftism. Can you please tell me what countries are governed by radical leftism so I can do more research?

Thanks
F

More stuff is collectively controlled. More worker ownership of industries. Financial safety net, likely universal basic income.

https://www.amazon.com/Raising-Floor-Uni…

Lots of people in many countries are fighting for leftism beyond what now is being used. I listed some of the books when I talked about the Antfa book.

But basically the US and Western Europe were one the same page up through the mid 60's. Canada's first national health care was patterned after our Medicare.

But then because of Nixon and his Southern Strategy, the US started moving to the right. This continued by playing on racism, and now also by using Christian Nationalism.

Good book promoting the left:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MK…

SJG

So what countries are currently using this form of government? I want to study how they do it.

I heard Venezuela was a leftist government, but I don't think that's right because people are leaving there to go to Colombia.

Whenever someone describes themselves or someone else as a radical [something] or an extremist [whatever], I ask them to define radical/extremist.

It's fun if you want to watch someone's gills flap in the open air (more often than not).

Almost two-thirds of people here illegally last year did not cross the border - they overstayed their visa. That's a continuing trend. Border crossings from the south are also way down under Bush and Obama.

Trump promised that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. Instead he's shutting down the government and making innocent government workers go without pay. What a nut case. Outside of TUSCL, Trump's popularity is falling over the shutdown:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tru…

So what you're saying, RandomMember, is that 1/3 of the people here illegally crossed the border? I wonder what would happen if I suddenly decided to live in Denmark. I can just set up camp there, right? No need to check in with their government first.

I know border apprehensions are down (a worthless stat, if you ask me).

Did you know that 40% of the kids in LAUSD do not speak English? 40%. I'm not saying they are all here illegally, or undocumented, but I would guess many of them are. And now the teachers are striking for higher pay. Who is going to foot the bill for the teachers' raises? Undocumented Immigration is a problem, and the last 4 presidents have ALL said we need to do something about it. So we finally get someone to do something about it, and now it's not that big of a problem?

Do I think a wall is going to solve this problem? Not completely. But Trump is not only asking for money for a wall. He's asking for money to beef up security at our border crossings. If you don't think we need more border patrol guards, what do you think would help stop the 1/3 of immigrants here illegally.

I think the border wall is nearly useless. In any event, open government and let congress do it's job.

Congress has had 4 presidents wanting border security. Trump is applying pressure to get it done. I like the fact that someone is finally making Congress work.

As a side note, if you think Trump is treated fairly by the press, check out the description and headlines of Pelosi plays Hardball with Trump and the SOTU comparee to Trump's Playground Tactics of cancelling Pelosi's overseas trip.

As a further aside, why does a congresswoman from San Francisco need to travel overseas on the government's dime?

These are the things I wonder about.

Trump isn't doing anything about illegal immigration. He's pandering to bigoted right wing populism.

You want to fight illegal immigration????

1- Make the landlords renting to illegals accountable
2- Make the business owners who hire cheap illegal labor instead of American workers accountable...fine them, take their licenses away, etc


Hating on the poor immigrants just wanting a better life isn't the answer. Go against those who exploit them in this country and enable them.

Icey, don't we already have laws against hiring illegal aliens?

As for landlords, that would be pretty tough to enforce, and could you imagine not renting to someone cause they can't prove their citizenship? SJWs would go nuts with that.

The laws aren't enforced and the punishment is just a slap on the wrist. That's why the private sector keeps enabling illegal immigration.

Landlords are supposed to do background checks on tenants and credit checks. Impossible for illegals. But again, its just a slap on the wrist if they get caught.

The laws aren't enforced. So where does the fault lie?

The laws favor the rich and the private sector. That's why hiring or renting to illegals, basically making money off of exploiting them and enabling them to stay in the country.....is a slap on the wrist, while the illegal themselves gets deported and replaced with another. There are even businesses that will let ICE raid them just so they can get a new batch of cheap illegal labor on a regular basis.

How come no one can fix it?

IceyLoco is just mad because I bought out all his bitches. And no matter how great the Wall will be, he is still going to have to listen to me fucking them. Even after he is deported back to Mexico.

#MAGA

^Deport icee #MAGA ;))

"Nine hundred teachers just got laid off from the Los Angeles Unified School District. They are $650,000 over their annual budget. The following comments by an English teacher help to explain one area that looms large over California's educational crisis. I hope each person receiving this mail will read it carefully, all the way to the end.

It is sad what is happening to our great country, all because our politicians are afraid they will miss out on a vote. What a travesty!

This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet and it should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent.

From a California school teacher....
As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of: I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title-1 school, meaning that its students average in the lower socio-economic and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about are Compton, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where their students are protesting – these are also Title-1 schools.

Title-1 schools are on the free-breakfast and free-lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking about a glass of milk and a roll. But a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make the Marriott proud.

The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (Our tax dollars at work!)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more have cell phones.

The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids (More of our tax dollars at work!)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department, or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything.

My budget was already substantial, but I ended up buying new computers for the Computer Learning Center, half of which, one month later, were carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America. (More and more of our tax dollars at work!)

I have had to intervene several times for young substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less than 3 months, who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them putas (whores) and throwing things,
that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical care, free education, free food, free day care, etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled not only to be in this country, but also to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society, because they happen to like their gardener and/or housekeeper, and they like to pay less for tomatoes, I say:
Spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the true costs. Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases, etc., etc., etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

Americans, we need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by age 15, and that refuses to assimilate, plus an American culture that has become so weak and worried about "political correctness", that we don't have the will to do what is needed.

If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know including your Congressman and Senators.

Cheap labor? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want expensive produce. Government will tell you "Americans don't want the jobs".

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor".

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an income tax return, he gets an "earned income credit"
of up to $3,200 free.

Also....
1- He qualifies for Section-8 housing and subsidized rent;

2- He qualifies for food stamps;

3- He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care;

4- His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school;

5- He requires bilingual teachers and books;

6- He qualifies for relief from high energy bills;

7- If they are, or become aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI;

8- Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare (All of this at taxpayer's {our} expense);

9- He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowner’s insurance;

10- Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material;

11- He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits;

12- Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his;

13- The American taxpayers also pays for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

14- Free Child Care (i.e., free babysitting from 6 AM – 6 PM

15- Free ‘mommy makeovers’ after having their children ( includes: tummy tuck and breast lift)

Cheap labor? Yeah right! Wake up people!

These are the questions we should be addressing to the Presidential candidates for either party. We must take action or we will all go down the drain because a few don't care.

And if you think this is bad, just wait until a Democrat becomes President and the redistribution of wealth becomes the norm in this ex-Democracy. The estimated annual cost now, for state, local and federal, is nearly $400 billion dollars a year.

Shared on Facebook by a teacher in California who sees firsthand the destruction of America.

Terrific argument for getting on top of our immigration system not for a wall nor for shutting down the government, there’s no name attached to this letter which makes it suspicious in my opinion, still I believe we can get immigration under control without all of the bullshit, that’s going on right now.

"Free medical care, free education, free food, free day care, etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled not only to be in this country, but also to demand rights, privileges and entitlements"

if you think its that easy to apply for these benefits, you should head down to your local welfare office and try. just tell them youre illegal and no habla ingles. Also, you need a social sercurity number to get the child credit when you file your taxes.

I say build the wall, its only a drop in the bucket in the over all national debt. End this clown show. Think about it 800,000 Americans are being held hostage by democrats and republicans. the majority of guys here will pay a stripper what shes owed even if she gives you a lame ass air dance. so basically PL can claim high moral ground compared to the politicians that are running this country.

@Founder, no one really wants to fix illegal immigration.

The countries most come from are US puppet states and letting people in abject poverty is like a safety valve for them that prevents popular uprisings from really taking root.

In the US, a lot of industries benefit from cheap illegal labor, like a modern day slave class.

In the end, Americans and illegals get screwed over. Americans lose jobs, wages get depressed, etc. And the illegals just become exploited in a new environment.... and its worse for them here than at home. At least at home they're still members of society, can communicate and have the potential to change shit. Here, they don't, they're invisible in the system.

Should we count people here illegally in our census?

No

Generally refugees and those coming from pre-industrial countries will just cross borders and set up camp. Not much different from how it was where ever they are coming from. Some people in Mexico live in places without running water, electricity, street lights, or pavement. They are just trying to stay alive.

But there is no law in the US mandating English. We are a multi-cultural, multi-racial, and multi-lingual nation.

The United States is also not a private enclave belonging to White People, or to Citizens. We are part of a community of nations and we have humanitarian responsibilities. And so for one thing, I applaud Pope Francis, he wanted to start his trip here by walking from Central America, through Mexico, and then crossing at an unofficial place into Texas. He wanted to show these migrants that he stands with them.

Working in our schools is a challenge, and our teachers are underpaid and the schools are underfunded and understaffed. But there is no "crisis in education."

US Immigration Laws have always been rooted in racism. No different today.

Ten Years Since Economic Collapse Sparked Occupy Wall Street, the Cooperative Movement Is Surging
www.democracynow.org/2018/9/18/ten_years…

Schneider's New Book, Sept 2018
Everything for Everyone: The Radical Tradition That Is Shaping the Next Economy
www.amazon.com/gp/product/156858959X/ref…

The Power of Cooperatives: Nathan Schneider & Jason Wiener at The Harvard Law Forum
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCOyOzzu0ZE

A Radical Leftist is someone who wants to make major structural changes to our economy and our society, not just to band-aid the problems.

SJG

and kudos to Founder, anticipating my concerns, and putting this on last nights shut down message:

"
We are currently offline for upgrades to our database.

Our expected return is Jan 18, 2019 @ 00:00 EST.

Go out and have fun tonight, we'll be hard at work.

And don't worry SJG, it's not FOSTA
"

As usual you are wrong. The country does belong to it's citizens.

^^^^^^^ IME, off ignore now.

A country is not "property".

And about Pelosi's trip, Checks and Balances, 3 coequal branches of gov't.

That's the most basic of Civics 101.

SJG

https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2019/…

Yes it is with no borders or laws you are not a soverign nation. If you come to a country "illegally" you have no rights or entitlements. The US is 100% the property of its citizens, not the property of it's governments or people who are there against the law.

No, it is not property, it is an entity, a nation state in a community of nations.

Our laws already limit immigration and allow for deportation. Problem is, these are very difficult to enforce without feeding racism, and these laws have always been motivated by racism.

SJG

I'm still waiting for an example of a radical leftist country. Any country? Anywhere?

Scandinavia and much of Western Europe are far to the Left of the US, and to the left of anything Bernie Sanders has ever said.

That is about as far as any nation has gotten, and always working because of a strong tradition of electoral democracy. Not like Venezuela, Columbia, Ecuador, Cuba, China, or Russia.

The US was on track with Europe in moving to the left, up through the mid 1960's. Then with Nixon and his 1968 Southern Strategy, the US turned and started moving to the Right.

But there are Autonomous Marxism and Libertarian Marxism movements throughout Europe, and some in South America, as well as worker owned factories and communes.

Here, discussion of Mark Bray's book, which gets into recent discussions of Autonomous Marxism, which had started in Italy.

https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php…
October 9, 2018
a long list of posts and book references.

( Founder, used to have links to individual posts. This really helps )

SJG

Peter Levenda on Secrets of Aleister Crowley !! ( pertains to Kenneth Grant and talk about Thelema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSsSzGXH…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorf…

sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist

Scandinavia is less socialist than the average non-Scandinavian country, including the United States under the most conservative presidency of our lifetime.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/debu…

They have about 15% higher top tax brackets, as well as a social safety net. So too does Ontario now.

But true, they do not have state ownership of many resources.

But even the above is far to the left of anything Bernie Sanders has talked about.


Ownership of Volvo, and of Fiat, has shifted back and forth between public and private. Some of the European airlines and aviation industry I believe are at least largely publicly owned.

The US had 90% top income tax during the Eisenhower years. Then JFK lowered it to 70%, and it stayed like that up through Ford.

70% is the number Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is now calling for. So she is a good deal further to the Left of anything Bernie Sanders said during the 2016 Campaign.

Robert Reich talks much about this too.

And it is then:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/083627…

And also very good:
https://www.amazon.com/Miners-Canary-Enl…

Though there may not be much public ownership in other countries there are still private worker owned factories and communal living arrangements.

SJG

So all of these small heterogeneous European countries with only one culture can pull off moderate socialism. Big Deal!

You can't even get 500 Congresseople too agree on policy here, let alone convince 330,000,000 Hispanic-African -Asian-European- Latin -Americans to pony up 90% in taxes.

Why don't Americans Socialists realize it would be easier to move to Europe than try to turn America socialist? Probably because European countries have immigration policies. And that, my friends, is why Trump is right about a crisis on our border.

All of this is circular logic for one very big reason, this government shutdown is a clear violation of duty on the part of all involved. These people were elected to govern, that includes the president, they are not doing their damn job.
That is a true national disgrace. The whole bunch of them need to have their paychecks turned off, stop getting their healthcare needs met, in so many words make what they have forced upon us reciprocal and enforce the same on them.

^Talk about disgusting furloughed federal employees forced to work and get government cheese to survive. Fuck Trump, Fuck Pelosi, Fuck all of those gutless cowards, and liars. Throw them out on the street in the middle of winter.

Amen 25. Agree completely. Stop paying our politicians and they'll resolve this real quick.

There is no crisis on our border. Trump just has a hair up his ass over it. The only crisis is in the White House.

Hopefully today's news conference will be something positive about the government reopening and not more juvenile stupid hardball negotiating tactics by the president.

@OldGringo- I think the Muellar investigation is on the wrong track, they shouldn’t be asking if there was collusion between Trump and Putin, what inquiring minds really want to know is, was there penetration ;)

The only reason Trump is doing what he does is because he legally can. The American president has too much power and Congress gives it to him. Don't blame Trump, blame the system that allows for Trump to be elected and to do what he does.

@founder the more I think about the conclusion I’m coming up with is Trump doesn’t give a flying fuck about a wall, he had two years where he had both the congress and the senate to pretty much rubber stamp pretty much anything he wanted, what he really wanted is a fight with the Democrats because he knows the only way he gets re-elected in 2020 is to keep the anger and hostility simmering at a slow boil. Something I don’t think is understood generally is that folks that are riled up are more likely to believe propaganda and fake news stories of the type that the Russians have been distributing among others with political interests, they don’t need to actually hack the voting machines to influence the vote, that’s the real key to what is actually going on in this country.
I personally believe the wall is a distraction and likely to become just another boondoggle like the bridge to nowhere in Alaska several years back.

All American news and politics are propaganda. We get the views of the corporate world and are taught that what's good for the capitalists is good for us.

Trump does want a wall. He's an egomaniac who loves monuments and monumentalism. He wants to be remembered for something he probably sees like the great wall of China.

Some gov't functions, Trump has the legal authority to shut down. But others no. It is a matter of law that they be funded and that their people be paid. Trump is not above federal law, budget or not.

"European countries with only one culture can pull off moderate socialism."

European countries have immigration and minorities. And they have a moderate degree of socialism. But compared to the US since 1980, they are very far to the left.

"You can't even get 500 Congresseople too agree on policy here, let alone convince 330,000,000 Hispanic-African -Asian-European- Latin -Americans to pony up 90% in taxes."

Well, the US Right is funded, promoted, and powered by all sorts of things. Two of the biggest are racism and evangelical religion.

As it stands now, no one is envisioning any taxation beyond 70%.

If you did get lots of state owned resources, then that would eventually alleviate the need for much taxation. Surplus value would go to the state first, for expanding the mid-sector of the economy, rather than to the bourgeoisie.

"Why don't Americans Socialists realize it would be easier to move to Europe than try to turn America socialist? Probably because European countries have immigration policies. And that, my friends, is why Trump is right about a crisis on our border."

Well, in the Declaration of Independence Jefferson was breaking with Locke and his focus on property, by talking about the pursuit of happiness. The Declaration championed an empowered populace, constituted popular sovereignty. The Constitution on the other hand is about protecting property rights from that popular sovereignty.

The US and Europe were in sync, moving steadily to the Left, up through the mid-60's. Then it was Nixon and his Southern Strategy, and then Reagan.

Moving the US to the Left is simply about letting people here have a chance at education and at an economic future, while still protecting our environment.

The Red State doctrines and talk about Financial Literacy and promoting Entrepreneurship as a public policy only accelerate the move towards becoming a 3rd world country. It is all fatalism.

The US has always been a multi-racial and multi-cultural political political project. And when this shows, we see America at its best. We have the early move away from theocracy, and to separation of church and state. And we have the opening up of voter qualifications in the early 1800's.

Then we have the Abolitionist Movement and the end of Slavery, and the 14th Amendment.

Then we have the early Women's Movement, and the efforts to end colonialism world wide after WW1, and at least starting, but not joining, the League of Nations.

And then during the Great Depression ideas really changed. We have Upton Sinclair running to be CA Governor, 1934, Production for Use, far to the Left of the New Deal.

We have the growth of the trade union movement. And then we have re-armament and preparation to take down Germany and Japan.

We have outstanding service in WWII. Then we have Harry Truman signing an order to integrate the armed services.

Then we have racial civil rights pressures growing and resulting in the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

But then there is back sliding with Nixon and the Republicans using that to take over the South.

And then more backsliding with the rise of the Evangelical Christian Movement, a repackaging of the South's Pro-Slavery and Pro-Segregation religion.

And we have lost much with Reagan, starting with breaking the trade union movement by breaking PATCO. And then with gutting progressive income tax ( 70% tops ), and now an ever increasing wealth gap, college out of reach for many, and an increasing large portion of the population with nothing but shit jobs to look forward to. But they get all kinds of stuff preached at them.

Universal health care delayed. Used to be South Africa which did not have universal care. Now it is only the US among industrialized nations, which still does not have it.

And really a politics which runs by denigrating poor people. Blaming the problems with capitalism on those who have been most negatively effected.

Trump and his wall are just an excuse to dismantle the society at home.

SJG

Peter Levenda | Lovecraft, The Yazidi, & Middle Eastern Magic ( this Peter Levenda is always extremely interesting to listen to )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzxuMtAP…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRU9tgr_…

we are regressing as a society

Canada's first national health care program was patterned after our Medicare. Poverty and racism were to be ended. People would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labors, rather then being preyed upon by corporations which control our society and our economy.

https://l7.alamy.com/zooms/a72d533e43ce4…

But then, 1968, Nixon's Southern Strategy, and then down hill from there.

SJG

Heartbreaker
https://youtu.be/1FDlcwU-uZs?list=PLFFC0…

Funny 25. I hope Mueller doesn't show the American public any evidence of penetration!

“I Was Absolutely Afraid”: Indigenous Elder on “Mob Mentality” of MAGA Hat-Wearing Students in D.C.
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/22/i…

SJG

Pelosi tells Trump no State of the Union in House chamber during shutdown
https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-contai…

Trump admin planning for even longer shutdown
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic…

SJG

Daath The Doorway to Knowledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-IawzBx…

Steve Blank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Blan…

https://steveblank.com/

Freemasonry is inherently opposed to slavery but what slavery remains for us to fight against today?
https://www.universalfreemasonry.org/en/…

TJ Street
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7318/961…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5488/96200…
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…
http://www.adelitasbartijuanamexico.com/…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5449/96322…

https://www.democracynow.org/topics/gove…

Competing Bills to End Government Shutdown Fail in the Senate
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t…

Trump announces deal for government to reopen for three weeks, ending longest shutdown; no money for his border wall
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t…

SJG

Its not that I'm against acoustic guitar, its just that I like the electric music so much. And note the 5 string bass.
Eric Clapton - Old Love (Live in Hyde Park 1997)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxVTJr14…

Badge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frPQTiry…

Layla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX5USg8_…

Computer Written Music, 1 hr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAfLCTRu…

https://www.aiva.ai/

Move flavors of Aiva generated music
https://soundcloud.com/user-95265362

Democrats Declare Victory! ( for right now )

https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-declare…

SJG

^^^^^ Pelosi and Schumer doing very well. Though I have had disagreements with them in times past, right now they are doing extremely well!

SJG

@founder
This is what they are saying today
Trump hasn't folded this badly since the last time he was in front of a bankruptcy judge
Custody of Trumps manhood was passed today from Ann Coulter To Nancy Pelosi

Trump is like a dumbed down, retarded version of Hitler.

Seriously, Trump has exterminated exactly 0 Jews. To belittle the Holocaust survivors by comparing Trump to Hitler has no place in rational discourse.

Trumps treatment of minorities is no different to the angst felt during Hitler's early years.

As far as genocides go, this country was founded on the two largest ones in history, that of the Native Americans and Africans.

Trump doesn't treat minorities poorly. He just wants American citizens to have preferential treatment in America. If that's a problem, then open your front door to all. Stop bitching about Trump and share everything you have with anyone who asks.

Now please clarify how American ran genocide on Africans.

And I get it, European immigrants killed native Americans. If you feel so strongly about it, leave this disgrace of a country. Nothing will change our history.

@founder
huh
I never compared Trump to Hitler ??

Icey did. It's an assinine comparison.

That’s more like, it he’s a moron that’s why I have him on ignore respondyto anything he says is idiotic

As for Trump"caving" or "folding", he seriously gave up 21 days. That's it. Come February 15, the wall will be funded

^ I don't think so. I think the only way he gets the wall funded is if he can convince Mexico to pay for it, I could be wrong but he lost a lot, with this episode, he looks like an amatuer compared to the dragon lady, she ate his lunch,and everyone knows it if they aren't living in the bubble.

I must be living in said bubble then. Trump is playing 4d chess against Nancy's checkers.

We'll find out soon enough, I guess

I think Pelosi and Schumer did very well. I don't see that wall as ever getting built. I don't think even most of Trump's voters ever really wanted that. And there is already the G. W. Bush super heavy duty fence.

Icey and twentyfive are making extremely good points.

Fascism is really just Capitalism switched to Full-Auto. Really it is just a few steps beyond Neo-Liberal Capitalism. And then the Nazi Party was just that combined with an openly occult doctrine.

Trump's lack of action on the hurricane damage in Puerto Rico alone is enough to establish his racist leanings. Those residents are no less Americans than any of the rest of us. Its just that mostly they are not White.

Trying to expand the Wealth Gap all but guarantees that some Americans will be pilloried, and could become subject to interment and worse.

Government shutdown’s impact on metro Atlanta lingers
https://www.ajc.com/news/government-shut…

The government shutdown cost the US economy at least $6B, a higher price than the border wall: S&P
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/governme…

The government is reopening, but some students still feel shutdown pain
https://www.wral.com/the-government-is-r…

Pelosi and Schumer offered the voice of calm, reason, competence and experience.

Consider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB5wZtV1…

SJG

Joe Bonamassa - "I'll Play The Blues For You" - Live At The Greek Theatre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoX0Olfq…

We'll see what happens but both parties represent the same system

The Democratic Party can be different though. I supported Geroge McGovern in 1972, and today we have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

'Pelosi does not mess around’: Democratic speaker emerges triumphant from shutdown
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/%…

SJG

AOC has such a great grasp on economics. I can't wait til she's speaker of the house

^^^^^^^ I think she does have a good grasp on economics too. She needs experience, but she would be a good House Speaker.

Nice looking, agree?

https://i2.wp.com/davidswanson.org/wp-co…

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel…

Right now though, Nancy Pelosi is the hero.

SJG

She is a fucking idiot.... 70 percent income tax bracket???? Carter top bracket was 90, but I was 7 years old then. I will divert the majority of my income and fire several employees

Sarcasm is lost on some.

She's a tool.

^ If AOC sticks around for a few terms she might get a little smarter, the way things are right now she really knows very little, what she has going for her is her attractiveness, she is clever and quick thinking, but that won’t work long term.
Trump would do well to remember that Mrs Pelosi is no newcomer and has a real sense of how to use the power that she has, her experience is a good indicator of what to expect from her, if Trump is really playing four dimensional chess (which I doubt) he’d be smart to study how Bill Clinton came to an accommodation with Newt Gingrich during the Clinton administration or he’s dead in the water.
Believe what you want, time will tell.

I got it founder.... I just cannot read her name without spitting, kinda like the douchebag Obama

So lets get ready for shutdown number two in a month. The current deal doesn't do a thing.

There will not be any her shutdown. There will be a national emergency declared, an the wall will be paid for that way.

Truth is it’s not the policy that’s wrong it’s the politics of the policy that is wrong.

Twenty-five, as a lifelong independent, I couldn't agree more.

I agree also

AOC is not a tool of anyone, she's a very smart young woman from Puerto Rico, she fought to keep her mother's house from being taken away by the banks, and then she made a very good showing campaigning for Bernie Sanders. So now she has been voted into the US House. She is one of the brightest lights of the 2018 election.

The Kennedy Eisenhower years were the years of greatest economic grown and greatest advancement for the working man. 1969 to 1972 were the years of the greatest inflation adjusted purchasing power for the working man.

Then, environmental limits started to be reached, and especially in the consumption of crude oil. Opec formed, cutting off super cheap oil, and other countries were building modern industry.

Kennedy lowered the top tax rate from 90% down to 70%. It stayed like that until Reagan.

Do you know what the government does with the tax money it collects?

It spends it!

This is what keeps the middle sector of the economy going. Without that the US would go like most other societies have, dividing into the very rich and the very poor.

Even Richard Nixon said, "I am a Keynesian."

The size of the economy is not production limited, not entrepreneur limited, not investment capital limited. It is purchasing power limited.

The one who first figured all of this out was John Maynard Keynes. He recognized that way you expand the economy, and keep it expanded, is through progressive taxation, and then by spending it.

Tax money gets spent in direct employment, procurement and contracting, and in benefit programs. The further down in the economic hierarchy the money goes, the more times it recirculates.

Remember Dan Quayle, running around the Senate floor telling his colleagues how to put their money into the Isle of Man? Well eventually the money ends up like that, dead money, inflating the stock and real estate markets. There is no shortage of investment money. Yanis Varoufakis counted it at $5.2 Trillion. But with the Trump Bubble on Wall Street, it has got to be more than double that by now. But that money is in stocks and real estate simply because people have no place better to put it. There is just not the consumptive demand to create much growth. Entrepreneurship does not create jobs, it eats jobs.

Reagan supported the rise of Saddam Hussein. Donald Rumsfeld was there in his office when he was ordering helicopter poison gas attacks on the Kurds. The last OPEC meeting ended early as delegates came scrambling home because Iraq had attacked Iran. So oil prices plummeted, the Texas oil industry cratered, and the big cars came back.

Things like cuts to taxes and worker and environmental protections can give temporary boosts, but not sustained increases. The ability to consume has not increased. After the 1986 crash, people were saying that the DOW might never exceed 4000 again.

So since, it has been one Ponzi scheme after another, one boom, one bust. Always the general economic condition and the wealth gap getting worse and worse.

Bill Clinton did put in an extra 2% high income tax, and that with some military cuts showed the financial sector that we were not racing any more to run the train off the cliff. That means that company valuations can be looked at more long term. And so there was a boom. But the changes were still too small, and a liability was built in via the subprime lending practices.

The 2% was passed with a time limit and G. W. Bush did not want to extend it.

Hillary Clinton though did want to reinstate it, and it probably would have had the same effect. But we need more of a change than that.

Probably 55% to 60% top tax bracket would be enough. Especially if it could be the top of two new brackets, the lower of the two coming in at a lower income level.

No one, except for maybe an aboriginal, is economically independent. All of us are part of a very complex web of economic and legal inter-dependencies.

Today, this far into industrialization and an information economy, very little labor is needed to meet hard needs. So probably, just using Keynesianism alone to expand the middle sector, is probably no longer enough. We need instead to plan on having increasingly large segments of the labor force retired, and often without any private money behind them. We need to plan on a welfare state. And the best way to do this is Universal Basic Income (UBI). What makes this different is that it is not needs tested, everyone gets it. This way the poor are not being pilloried. Taxes are means tested, but UBI has no such test.

As it is now, our politics runs by pillorying the poor. This destroys our democracy and our society. So UBI, and with it cost controlled and public offerings to meet all basic needs, like housing, food, transportation, clothing, health care, child care, and education. We don't want to be fattening slum lords or driving up housing costs with public monies.

As far as Trump and that wall, who knows what Trump might do. But there is no emergency arising from not having that wall. And that wall is for political purposes. And probably, Trump has learned that the wall helps him more not being built, than built.

Richard Nixon had his 1969 Family Assistance Plan (federalizing some welfare costs), but soon he learned that the plan had more political value not passed. So he let his own legislation flounder and die, opening the door to Reagan and his Welfare Queen stories.

Same for Trump and the wall.

Newt Gingrich was hurt badly by his government shutdown. Though there will no doubt be disagreements about making a budget, I think Trump knows not to shut it down again.

SJG

Ro Khanna: Regime Change Is Not the Answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3IbZlC8…

The Ancient War Between Gnostics and Neoplatonists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3IbZlC8…

Apocalypse of the Alien God: Platonism and the Exile of Sethian Gnosticism
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/081224…

Apocalypse of the alien god : Platonism and the exile of Sethian gnosticism / Dylan M. Burns (2014)

jeff healey live at nottoden 2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Qb-6Qk…

AOC doesn’t like the dick, she munches carpet. She only dates lesbians, and would never DFK SJG or toda la noche with him, unless he decides to go through with his sexual change so he can DFK with himself and toda la noche by dusting himself all night!

^^ Fisting himself all night (SJG).

^^^^^ Meat72, off of ignore now. Hoping to find some dick to suck.

SJG

Lol^^^Yeah, I think SJG is looking for SJGay to play with himself!!

If not arrested by the US, then Trump will most certainly face German NGO's getting him indicted in the International Court, Crimes Against Humanity, over the separated children. No Oktober Fest for him, no more EU or Latin America at all, as these indictments do not ever expire. They can be turned into an arrest order at any time.

SJG

Crazy Mini Engines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfDZKanK…

Richard Smoley - The Kabbalah: Key to Hidden Knowledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-R4sOrW…

Have You Seen The Saucers - live, 1970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrVqhs4I…

Yanis Varoufakis: Socialism, Populism, Nationalism and Independence ( Aug 2018 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnFOfJsQ…


Yanis Varoufakis: Has capitalism failed us? ( May 2018 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gReGEDku…

SJG

^^^ More ad hominem attacks from SJG on the right and Trump, without offering any solutions to the border crisis. He just complains about it, but would rather spend our tax dollars taking care of illegal immigrants rather than taking care of our own veterans, homeless, and unborn children (terminate pregnancy at 9 months). SJG’s politics center more around garnering votes for career politicians than it does solving our problems. SJG, yiunshould move to Mexico now!

Well no one undocumented is eligible for social programs. And the people supporting Trump could not care less about conditions in the US.

And also, there really is no border crisis, only a long legacy of moderate tensions.

I plan to be bi-residential, spending huge blocks of time in Mexico. Another culture, another language, its like having a new life.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3752/96322…

SJG

Jefferson Airplane 5-7-1970 Fillmore East Complete Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrVqhs4I…

SJG??? I sort of respect that you do your home wrt discussions here, but to say no one undocumented is eligible for social programs?

You live in California. We literally brag about the fact that undocumented students can go to our state schools.

Please, don't peddle that nonsense here. We have enough fake news.

I think you mean elementary school and high school, not colleges. I interpreted Meat as talking about public assistance programs.

Letting kids go to school is a basic human rights issue. The consequences of not doing that far and above outweigh the costs.

CA would stop functioning without immigrants from Mexico and further south. They do the jobs that no one else wants. They are the ones who can live on unlivable wages. They add radically more to our economy than what they might take from public coffers.

SJG

I'm not trying to argue, but I know for a fact that California prides itself on offering social programs to all people, not just citizens.

^^^ And who pays for those programs. Hint, it’s not the poor!

Well it does not offer social safety net programs to the undocumented. Maybe to non-citizen legal residents. Not sure

Overall, all immigrants from Mexico and Latin America contribute far more than they take. Remember, they live here, so they are consumers. They keep our economy going, while actually getting very little. One the whole much nicer people than most whites, in my opinion.

It is still true that most of the political impetus for cracking down in immigration is driven by racism. Southern California, and especially places like Riverside, Orange County, and San Diego are far more like this than San Jose. We had a huge protest march against AZ's Joe Arpaio.

Trump and his side have manufactured the perception of a border crises, where there is actually none. They did this because they saw that this appealed to some segment of the voters, and so it helped get Trump elected. Also, as Nikki Haley described, he was the "loudest voice in the room", that is he was saying the most extreme things in order to draw attention. Many critics feel that he never expected or wanted to get elelcted, that he just wanted to be able to negotitate a higher salary for his television program, "The Apprentice".

SJG

TJ Street
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3752/96322…

Jefferson Airplane 5-7-1970 Fillmore East Complete Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrVqhs4I…

Richard Smoley - The Kabbalah: Key to Hidden Knowledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-R4sOrW…

Meat, the way it should be is via much steeper progressive income tax. That keeps the money circulating, rather than going to inflating the stock and real estate markets, or to places like the Isle of Man.

As it is, we need to return to pre-Reagan taxation levels.

And as far as immigrants they are by far a huge positive.

SJG

^^^ The website for Obamacare costs more than what Trumps is asking for on the wall. Let that sink in for you SJG!

SJG is either stupid or a liar. I think in this case he is a liar.

According to the most recent analysis by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), one illegal immigrant living in America today costs U.S. citizen taxpayers about $8,075. In total, illegal aliens cost American taxpayers $116 billion annually.

FAIR researchers note the increasing costs of illegal immigration is a “disturbing and unsustainable trend.” Costs to taxpayers have risen by nearly $3 billion since 2013, when illegal aliens’ total cost to taxpayers was $113 billion, according to FAIR.

https://www.watchdog.org/national/analys…

We have homeless and homeless veterans and our own poor people living below the poverty line that are the ones who deserve that money.

Stop with the lie that they don't get aid. $18.5 Billion In Health Care For Unauthorized Immigrants, that is paid with hardworking peoples taxes with no say. It is fucking bullshit and the Democrats willfully do it to get the votes.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca…

the real truth is the Democrats know without illegal immigrants the would never win another election so they will talk about electric dogs and but no wall. Pelosi and Schumer should be shot in public for treason. 5.7 possible illegal voters https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201…

Also they bring in more money then they cost is totally untrue and you can prove it with no actual numbers or sources
Many illegal immigrants actually send money out of the company to relatives.

Illegal immigrants cost nothing. I am surrounded by Mexican immigrants all the time. Apartment Owners Association would dynamite that wall, they depend on it.

Obamacare website, compared with $5 billion?

No, the problem here is right wing news. You guys ingest it. Can't help you.

SJG

Taxes have been lowered by Trump which is good, and they should be lowered further. Taxation is theft. We tolerate it because there is a social compact that we get more out of it than we put in, but that isn't really true our government wastes so much money and funds things the average person is against.

It is fucked up that our country is one where you work and if you don;t pay taxes they put you in jail. They in all reality extort you for your earned money or they lock you up.

SJG you are like a little kid you just cover your ears and eyes and you scream so you don't have to acknowledge the truth. You're a liar and a fraud.

You’re the one who is indoctrinated to left wing think tank, and your recruiting tactics are ad hominem attacks without any proof of the counterstatements you bring up. That you can’t help because you refuse to listen to the truth, SJG!

and stop conflating legal with illegal immigrants

SJG is the prototypical lefty where to them facts don't matter it is all about feelings. Fuck your feelings.

Taxation is not theft, it is the cost of living in this society, a responsibility when one has assets or income. You do get far more out of paying taxes than what you put in.

Well, the money should be taken earlier, like by economic restructurings so that the large incomes don't exist in the first place.

It is legally obtained money, but to call it "earned" is very misleading.

IME, I would hope there is no one stupid enough to every pay you enough money so that you would be obliged to pay any taxes.

SJG

SJG you are just another california bitch, who is much older than me but I probably make much more than you. You are a weak faggot who bases his life on lies and things that will never happen like your organization. I would say go fuck yourself but you probably have a line of slim mexican boys lined up waiting to fuck you

You have also never proven a single thing you say or claim, you have a lame narrative that only you believe.

^^^^^^^ You ime are talking about yourself.

SJG

https://www.google.com/amp/www.thefiscal…

Let this article from 2015 ran by the Fiscal Times show you what the costs were 4 years ago on Obamacare’s website! Try doing your ad hominem attacks now, SJG!

good come back you retard

^^^^^^^ Both of you guys are full of shit. The future of our nation depends upon getting people out of the shit pools that you two live in.

SJG

See as always you are wrong you are a weak nothing of man, who wants to save the country with other peoples money.

See^^^ I bring proof from posting an article and all you can come up with is childish ad hominem attacks. You have no argument because you’re a child, SJG!

Private charities are far far more effective than anything the goverment does, but government is SJG religion and makes him feel safe, he has no want for Liberty or Freedom. He is a coward and a nothing.

Elizabett Warren is a carpet munching dike, and wants SJG to run her campaign!

Lots of idiots, but you two are malicious idiots. Thing to do is just to completely boycott the both of you. That will cut your money off too, which is the best.

SJG

^^^ SJG you should move to Venezuela and report how your socialistic ideas work. Try living your political idealism and walk your talk, don’t just talk shit on here!

a millionaire 1/1024th american indian, less indian than the average american. SJG all your idols are fucking jokes, Bernie, Warren, Hillary, ha what a group of fucking liars and losers

Typical leftist I can;t handle other opinions so they shouldn't be allowed to live. Democrats are the true party of hate and intolerance

What I want to see is the poor in the United States standing up for themselves, showing that they can skillfully make corpses in quantity. The more crazy things get, the close we get to that day.

SJG

Democrats always want violence, and they want the poor to do it for them. Lloyd you are a coward and just a shitty person.

But as it stands now, we just fight the political and ballot box fights.

But people are always trying to find ways to gain collective activism and form communities.

Refugee camps, homeless camps, environmental protest encampments, all part of it.

When will it go to large scale violence?

Well before it started with the Underground Railroad, and then John Brown.

It could come in standing up to the White Supremacists and something like that Unite The Right in VA.

In past times there has been unfocused violence in the form of riots.

There have been rent strikes in the US in times past, and people opposing Sheriff's evictions and Farm Auctions.

When it gets hot enough, that is when the sane thinkers will see that Socialism is the only real option.

People also have to reject Evangelical Christianity too. Right now that is the main narcotic.

SJG

Don't ever make the mistake IME of assuming that I am on the sidelines.

SJG

It was progressives in Iowa, during the Great Depression, who prevented Farm Auctions from happening. Actually they arranged it so someone would buy it for 25 cents, so then the original owner could buy it back.

They would hang up a noose to make sure that no one bid any higher.

Then they made the Sheriff get down on his knees and kiss the flag. Then each of his deputies had to do exactly the same thing.

But right now a big part of what keeps White people stupid is the Born Again Christian movement.

SJG

^^^ I’ve honestly never read anything more racist against white people in my life! More intolerant policies from the left, all in the attempt to gather votes for career politicians. Drain the swamp by ousting fascist thinking like you see from SJG!

Suppose a Mexican got himself a grappling hook. Say he got himself over Trump's wall. Then say he walked into a bank and got himself hired as Bank President, and at an annual salary of $1 Meg.

Would that shut you guys up?

Is the real issue just that these are poor people, and so that makes it okay for you to denigrate them?

Well having a job and a salary does not make one more worthy of basic human dignity.

Suppose it was one of you two, @Meat72 or @ime, that got the million dollar a year Bank President job. That would not make you better than other people, or more worthy of human dignity.

And as far as taxes, when you accept a job, it is understood that you will never receive the Gross Pay, you will receive only the Net Pay. So that which goes to taxes never was yours and you never had any claim on it. It should be with held anyway, and proceeds of securities transactions should be accessed and the correct amount going to estimated taxes. So you do not really "pay taxes", rather, you engage in activities which gain you revenue, knowing full well that some of the money will go to taxes. But that money then never was yours at all. Those who have income, pay income tax, and it should be much more progressive, like it used to be. Those who do not have income, do not pay income tax.

And then if you get the Bank President job, you are most likely displacing someone else, someone who wanted that job, someone who had that job, or someone who worked for another bank which is going out of business. But our society has to work for everyone, not just those who come out ahead.

And then of Mexico, people come here because they want to work, and then they want their kids to go to school. Expecting this is very reasonable. Our country is greatly improved by immigrants, legal or not. And it is to the benefit of us all to educate their kids and to provide everyone with health care.

There is no border or immigration crisis.

And of course I am not going to listen to Trump's SOTU address, but I will be most interested to hear what Stacey Abrams has to say in reply.

SJG

TJ Street
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7403/961…
https://www.flickr.com/photos/navymailma…

Lloyd you are a total fuckstick and the only one who thinks he is better than anyone. IF you come here illegally you are a criminal end of story. Come here legally and get that job, no one has any problem with that. Just racists like you and the democrats who only see people based on color and social status. You are the problem.

You better keep your head buried int he sand for 6 more years minimum.

and you are wrong on taxes in many counts for one it should be a flat tax same for everyone as everyone is equal.

say the rate is 10%

Poor guy who makes 30K pays 3k
Rich guy who makes 300k pays 30k

Hey look the rich guys paid 30x more

^ I’d support a flat tax, problem is it wouldn’t kick in for most people, so a flat tax as proposed would be borne by the middle class, and there would be so many loopholes at the upper end of the spectrum that the richest folks would be able to drive an armored truck convoy right through it.
It would be a great thing if it were done properly though.

25 - Well the poor aren't paying taxes now anyway and actually get money when they do their tax returns. But it is not the rich's duty to subsidize the poor based on some arbitrary income number picked out of the sky, at least not at the hand of the government if they have proven anything is they will waste the money. Private charities are far more effective than any government program.

Now this thread is a total waste because SJG is a total screwjob and logic or facts mean nohting to him.

^ I don’t disagree with you at all, let them figure out how much money they need to run this country and what percentage tax levied will achieve that, let it kick in above a certain level and stop classifying interest and dividend income differently from wages just levy a tax on all income equally, I’ll support that all day and night, problem arises because the law proposal will have classification and the policy will be different from the proposal.

A flat tax only increases the wealth gap, and that is one of the biggest problems built into capitalism. Our democracy could not withstand that. It is already being stressed as things are.

SJG

^^^What the hell dontiu for against capitalism? If you do have a problem, why do t you leave this country and go live in Mexico, Venezuela, Iceland, Norway, or Finland/Sweden?

Also, what the hell do you have against bankers? You seem to bash them all day long, yet I bet you use credit every single day of your life for the convenience of enjoying an above standard of living in a capitalistic society? So if you’re so against it, why do you have to reap the rewards of the same system that you hate so much? It’s because those in the left use emotions to justify their political agenda, not logic.

This issue Meat72 is right here in this country. Here is where the talents of good people are being wasted and their efforts thwarted. You can't make a society work by Cops, Courts, and Corrections. It has to work for everyone, and there have to be ways for people to use their talents. Not everyone wants to be a worthless parasite like Meat72.

The rewards of industrialization are that everyone can have a high standard of living. As Buckminster Fuller said, we lose that because we demand that everyone prove that they can earn a living. So our society runs on schemers and scammers, and parasites like Meat72.

SJG

I don't think much of this guy:
https://www.askbrandonwade.com/

TJ Street
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7318/961…
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…
http://www.adelitasbartijuanamexico.com/…
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7403/961…
https://www.flickr.com/photos/navymailma…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3752/96322…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5449/96322…

^^^ You’re the parasite who wants to pretend to advocate for the poor, yet all you want is their vote so it can further your left wing nut job agenda, which only further takes from the working class and distributes it to the leeches of society which you SJG, propagate for your evil and sick fascist ways.

You should be locked up and made to watch your wife get raped by the socially marginalized.

Meat72, it is you who are the psychopath, and stay away from any women of mine.

We live in an advanced industrialized society, so the number of jobs available continues to decline each year. As it is now, most paid employment is not worth the resources it consumes.

We have the ability to let everyone live better than kings had lived in centuries past. All we have to do is just recognize the situation.

You on the otherhand pedal greed, fear, and stupidity.

SJG

Meat72, and banks should have a right to foreclose on anyone at any time, and all those fees are fair....and lets not forget that the right wing made this country what it is! Don't you miss the days when women and minorities knew their place??? And when commies could get arrested and blacklisted??? Miss McCarthy much??

SJG, what happened to your wife? I thought you were happily married?

That Lloyd Schoene back down real fast when I got up in his face and used my military style voice and marched his ass up and down the street telling him to DFK in the front room before your own pants are to come down in the backroom! He cried hard when I berbaaly abused him to the point of tears saying he prefers slim Mexican boys instead of stripper grade hotties. He only admitted his gaynesss openly In order to avoid the single largest beat down in his life!

Right SJG??

In case you didn’t understand what I was telling you, Lloyd Schoene got divorced due to his distaste’s for women and a preference for young and slim Mexican boys. His wife found an illegal Mexican hombre dusting off his wiener in their bedroom that he brought home from the Mexican hat dancing circuit!

That’s how he got divorced!!

If you build it, they'll still come! Waste of money.

Increased technology along the border would be far more effective at a fraction of the cost.

Agree with @Gringo about focusing on increased technology. Also makes sense to focus on foreigners overstaying their visa since that's actually a bigger problem by a factor of two. I don't know what the solution is, but perhaps a federal mandate for E-verify.

There is no border, immigration or security crisis. Conflating immigration and security is part of the Bush 43 insanity which took over in the wake of the 9-11 incident. There are though on going matters of contention about immigration. We have to work with Mexico to navigate these.

Today's News
Trump Floats Another Gov’t Shutdown or Nat’l Emergency over Border Wall Funding
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/2/4/he…


SJG

Attack of the Giant Leeches 1959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_JnBEsr…

Happy Go Lucky Local -- Duke Ellington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNnplwRb…

Jimmy Forrest : Night Train ( 1952 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxqQxJt_…

Burlesque Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG-9WQ0P…

Venus - Shocking Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWb8_DH8…

Jefferson Airplane 5-7-1970 Fillmore East Complete Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrVqhs4I…

Jefferson Airplane at Wally Heider Studios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY1k9AWV…

Sink the Bismark - 1960 movie ( very good, seen many times )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VKVeIUL…

Sink The Bismarck - 1996 History Channel Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC3kDrlt…

Robin Trower - Full Concert - Rockpalast Crossroads, Bonn - 2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmoMb0gN…

Build the wall!
Build the wall!
Build the wall!
Build the wall!

Everybody now.....

The wall will save lives and money!

That wall would be just a busy work program, as well as a continental eyesore. A waste of money better needed for infrastructure upgrades.

“Liar-in-Chief”: Rep. Ilhan Omar Slams Trump’s SOTU Remarks on Border, Venezuela, Israel & More
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/2/6/li…

Ana María Archila: Brett Kavanaugh’s Presence at SOTU Represented Failure of U.S. Democracy
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/2/6/an…

Stacey Abrams rips Trump in Democratic response to the State of the Union address ( 10 min )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eRh1cS7…

Analysis of Trump's State of the Union, Democratic response ( CBS 9 1/2 minutes )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb4LJB0Q…

Full Trump + Stacey Abrams, NBC, almost 2 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIqQ8O8z…

SJG

Sexy Girls World Map ( consider Ecuador and Argentina )
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-co…

Year of the Pig
http://media.gettyimages.com/vectors/hap…

SJG, you do know the wall will NOT stretch the entire length of the border, right? We're talking about 300 or so miles.

Well, there is already the G. W. Bush super heavy duty fence. I don't think people get past that. It allows air, water, and small animals to get through it.

We have no wall with Canada, and other countries have no such walls.

East Germany had a wall, but that was to keep their people in.

Isn't that what Trump's wall would really be for, just to raise antagonisms and to scapegoat another country's people, and to make Americans feel that Mexico is unsafe and alien? Aren't Trump and his base just afraid that Americans are going to come to see Mexico as their second home. It is going to be like that for me. And then Mexican-Americans are already people whom I associate with daily.

And responding to Trump and American becoming socialist, up through the mid 60's we were in sync with Western Europe in moving towards Social Democracy. And then it was free and low cost land which launched and sustained a middle-class. And then after that was no more, it was FDR and progressive taxation and spending which sustained the mid-sector of the economy and re-launched a middle-class. So America has often been in the lead in moving towards socialism. The French Revolution was in large measure inspired by the American Revolution, and so too with the Russian Revolution.

SJG

Sexy Girls World Map ( consider Ecuador and Argentina )
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-co…

Argentina
https://www.argentinaxp.com/wp-content/u…

Year of the Pig
http://media.gettyimages.com/vectors/hap…

Bernie Sanders faces progressive backlash over State of the Union response:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sander…

Full Sanders Response, 27min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTjI0Fdk…

SJG

TJ Street
http://www.adelitasbartijuanamexico.com/…
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7318/961…

Mexico City
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=146632

6 more years
Build the Wall
Kill a Commie
MAGA

In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take a human life. He replied: "I don't know, I've only ever killed communists"

6 more months
People Wakeup!
Make This Country Work For Everyone
Impreach Fascist Trump
This Is What Is Great About America!

SJG

Sexy Girls World Map ( consider Ecuador and Argentina )
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-co…

Argentina
https://www.argentinaxp.com/wp-content/u…

Year of the Pig
http://media.gettyimages.com/vectors/hap…

TJ Street
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3752/96322…

Mexico City
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=112750

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=97293

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=70423

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=88173

http://doxyspotting.com/yellow-dress/

Wouldn't it just be the ultimate to have an apartment in one of these neighborhoods? That is part of my plan for Mexico.

Interesting, more confused Trump supporters. I wonder why despite their extremist tendencies, none seem to have a problem with the Trump regime's overuse of eminent domain when it comes to building said "wall." So is this the rednecks and hookers site or what?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us…

I don't think there will be any new walls, not even that 55 miles in the proposed budget. What we are going to see instead is the Impeachment of DJT.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fir…:

SJG

Corrected Link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Gold…

SJG

I just went out and bought 10 sledge hammers. I don't know if a run is starting or what, but these 10 were all I could find.

I'm going to the the first one, just across the boarder, with a rental concession. Now tourists from the world over will be able to bring home pictures they can proudly display for a life time, along with few concrete chips in a zip lock bag.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/…

SJG

Satin Doll
http://x.imagefapusercontent.com/u/TomTh…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivaZbLz…

Clark Terry Sextet - Pennies from Heaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H3zJrZc…

A most impressive article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/us/po…

SJG

Ending the Punishment of Poverty: Supreme Court Rules Against High Fines & Civil Asset Forfeiture
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/2/21/e…

Frances Fox Piven, Professor of Political Science and Sociology at the Graduate Center, CUNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQBgRPtL…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IHG…

NOLO, Bourbon Street
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=131772

AZTECA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS9WVbQT…

Peter Green - In The Skies ( Full Album ) 1979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Llz6n8…

I love the smell of napalm in the morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALi78xSa…

This thread has a lot of responses

John Dean, testifying about the million dollars in cash and the enemies list, then Daniel Shorr reading the list
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/nix…

Nixon Enemies List
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc…

Reporter Daniel Schorr Releases Nixon’s “Enemies List;” Discovers His Own Name on It
http://todayinclh.com/?event=journalist-…

Daniel Schorr -- Watergate ( 3 episoded, watched on VHS, very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTkE07R…



Trump says he looks forward to seeing the Mueller report
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/tru…

Trump's Enemies List
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv…

SJG

Oakland CA
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=137215

"How the hell do you have the temerity to blackmail the President of the United States?"

"That's not the question John, the question is why is he paying?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNBaeW54…

A huge factor in my formative years was the taking down of Richard Nixon. When he finally was forced out, it meant that the whole world had changed. Even the most powerful were no longer above the law or above accountability. And that something like this could again be unfolding in my lifetime is just beyond incredible.

"That Bay of Pigs Thing"

Gordon Novel said that he did not erase Nixon's tapes and that he was not the umbrella man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yznRGS9f…

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51…

SJG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dhpyuhkEZus/Tt…
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4BhlMf0uTMw/W…
http://litoshcomics.org/wp-content/uploa…

TJ Street
https://www.flickr.com/photos/navymailma…
https://www.flickr.com/photos/navymailma…

Orlando
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=104367

Los Angeles Figueroa St.
http://doxyspotting.com/boring/

D-Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIjmOcp_…

Masonic Symbols
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDfjOgln…

Varshini Prakash: Republicans Are Scared
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp2n75z9…

More in headline segment:
https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2019/…

As I know the Green New Deal language started with Van Jones, right after 2008. Really we don't have any other choice.
https://www.amazon.com/Green-Collar-Econ…

Baby's Looki' Hot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ufNFTA…

House Votes to Block Trump National Emergency Declaration ( tally means this must have been bipartisan, so it then could pass the Senate. Walls take time to build. So the idea that you build it by declaring a National Emergency is preposterous.)
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/2/27/h…

SJG

Sunday on the Front Stoop; 'Critical Path', What was Buckminster Fuller trying to tell us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqCZPxOB…

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=70423

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=88179

Pablo Sender - The Secret Doctrine: Part 1 - How to Study The Secret Doctrine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2hdnG6…

James Phillips - Secrets of Adepts: An Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTILhZ3d…

SJG's Chemistry Club will be meeting weekly, just on the other side of the wall. We ask that people try to bring shovels, as it will work better if we can first dig out around the foundation some.

SJG

Stride
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stride_(mu…

James P. Johnson and Jean Brady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG5zvZQh…

Alvin Lee – The Bluest Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB6OlJqV…

Sen. Rand Paul Likely to Oppose Nat’l Emergency in Decisive Vote, they seem to have their 4 Republicans to vote against Trump's National Emergency.

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/4/he…

SJG

According to something I just read Trump is not going to be able to build the wall using an emergency declaration,it seems that only congress has the power to seize land using eminent domain, as a result he will not be able to take any private property to build his wall.

^^^^^^^ Very interesting.

Also sounds like where the budgeted 55 mile section is to be, there is also some small church right in the way.

Building walls takes a long time. If there really were any kind of an emergency, it would have to be dealt with by some other means.

Caravans of political and economic refugees really pose a national security threat and require multi-billion dollar walls, and for the most powerful nation on earth?

This Congressmember Camped in the Cold to Escort an Asylum-Seeking Honduran Mother Across Border
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/12/21/…

How Tear Gas Became a Favorite Weapon of U.S. Border Patrol, Despite Being Banned in Warfare
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/11/28/…

Daily Mail, Tuesday March 5th, 2019

'We will not tolerate this lawlessness': America fights back hard against caravan migrants, including women and children, who stormed border and were met with tear gas and rubber bullets, as PRESIDENT shuts down Tijuana-San Diego crossing

They use the helicopters to fan the tear gas.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…


Video Link

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…

video link:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/v…

Thanks 25,

SJG

Thin Lizzy Full Concert U K 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq9qy6TD…

It seems that the only legal precedent is when Truman trued to nationalize the steel mills during WWII using an emergency declaration, it was defeated with the assertion that property rights were granted in the constitution and only an act of congress could supersede private property rights.

"Children were screaming and coughing in the mayhem at the San Ysidro Port of Entry when American agents tried to push the surging Central Americans back."

Tomorrows London Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…

SJG

^^^^^ "Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastelum on Friday declared a humanitarian crisis in his border city of 1.6 million, which he says is struggling to accommodate the crush of migrants"

SJG

^^^^^ Thanks for that comment there 25. Maybe you could give us a link to what you are looking at?

SJG

NYTimes on line

Can’t link it requires a subscription

"San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer tweeted on Sunday: 'It is critical that U.S. and Mexican federal leaders work together to safely resolve the migrant crisis.



San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer tweeted on Sunday: 'It is critical that U.S. and Mexican federal leaders work together to safely resolve the migrant crisis'












San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer tweeted on Sunday: 'It is critical that U.S. and Mexican federal leaders work together to safely resolve the migrant crisis'

'Our way of life relies on a safe, secure and functioning border.

'From travel to shipping to daily commutes between San Diego and Tijuana, it is essential to our community.'
"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…

SJG

Thanks 25,

SJG

Mexico: Bishops praise faith of migrant caravans
https://www.indcatholicnews.com/news/366…

"I would think that 6 trips to the U.S.-Mexico border to reunite children with their parents and to help asylum seekers find refuge here would make a difference. Three of these trips were at the Southern Texas border and three were in Tijuana. But the more I visited, the better I understood the problem. And the problem lies with the White House. "

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2019/03/…

Dozens of Deported Parents Return to US to Seek Asylum and Their Children (yesterday)
https://splinternews.com/dozens-of-depor…

SJG

Kenneth Grant & Typhonian References
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex33k5hv…

Bernie Sanders Kicks Off 2020 Run in Brooklyn, New York

Sen. Rand Paul Likely to Oppose Nat’l Emergency in Decisive Vote

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/4/he…

Metallica - Ain't My Bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNXmKiEq…

Master of Puppets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7blkui3…

Metallica - Bleeding Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftV_XepI…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftV_XepI…

Thin Lizzy Full Concert U K 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq9qy6TD…

Thin Lizzy - Rosalie - Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7p4eLKo…

Thin Lizzy Rockpalast with Snowy White
https://www.losangelesblade.com/2019/03/…

San Diego
"A jackhammer reduced prototypes of President Donald Trump’s prized border wall into piles of rubble on Feb. 27, a quick ending to an experiment that turned into a spectacle at times."

"Within about two hours, a hydraulic jackhammer on an excavator levelled seven prototypes. Concrete slabs crashed in small clouds of dust, steel panels were knocked over, and an owl flew out of a steel tube atop one panel just before it thundered down. The last prototype standing took a little more time to destroy."

https://canada.constructconnect.com/dcn/…

SJG

Thin Lizzy w/ Snowy White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOj6YjLm…

New Mexico Could Decriminalize Abortion & Advocates Want You To Know What That Really Means
https://www.bustle.com/p/new-mexico-coul…

SJG

Record number of families, cold reality at border
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nati…

SJG

About Trump and the North Korea Summit, and the Michael Cohen testimony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPHF1Lkk…

SJG

Ocasio-Cortez hopes to 'break this fourth wall' by responding to 'bad-faith attacks'
https://news.yahoo.com/ocasio-cortez-hop…

“The wall might or might not be built. But even if it remains only in its phantasmagorical, budgetary stage, a perpetual negotiating chip between Congress and the White House, the promise of a two-thousand-mile-long, thirty-foot-high ribbon of concrete and steel running along the United States’ southern border serves its purpose. It’s America’s new myth, a monument to the final closing of frontier. It’s a symbol of a nation that used to believe that it had escaped history, or at least strode atop history, but now finds itself trapped by history, and of a people who used to think they were captains of the future, but now are prisoners of the past.”

Greg Grandin on “The End of the Myth: From the Frontier to the Border Wall in the Mind of America"
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/6/gr…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/125017…

SJG

If the above book is going to talk about the frontier myth, it should also be talking about CA's 1849 Gold Rush Fraud.

SJG

Tasmanian Devil
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c…

A highly acclaimed book!
http://www.tarothermeneutics.com/tarotli…

Nation Exclusive: ICE Has Kept Tabs on ‘Anti-Trump’ Protesters in New York City
https://www.thenation.com/article/ice-im…

SONNY ROLLINS-LIVE IN DENMARK´68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKxd7LoK…

Willpower always was a stupid idea
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/again…

This Gary Thomas is an absolute idiot!
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/10/22/w…

Joe Bonamassa "Drive"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apXVpnGM…

Peoria Il show, 8-25-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzVNmP7…

Kirstjen Nielsen's Incompetence Impacting The Most Vulnerable, getting grilled over the cages by US House Members
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BePuqJRV…

Cooper stunned by Trump official's 'Orwellian' response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n7qNYDK…

DHS Secy. Kirstjen Nielsen Tries To Defend Trump Family Separation Policy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vTqENd4…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFWXybe6…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Yjxrb8…

Congresswoman Nanette Barragán And Chris Hayes On Today's Child Separation Hearing | All In | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXl_atFV…

Nanette Barragán
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanette_Ba…

Representing California's 44th US District
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California…

Jimmy Gomez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Gome…

Representing California's 34th US District
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California…

Representatives Nanette Barragán and Jimmy Gomez Camped in the Cold to Escort an Asylum-Seeking Honduran Mother Across Border
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/12/21/…

SJG

Sonny Rollins - Jazz Jamboree 1980, Warsaw, very good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWE83mea…

Circle of Fifths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1aJ6Hix…

Kirstjen Nielsen testifies in border security hearing, live stream, congress member tries to defend Trump's view of their being a crisis and that these migrants are being sent across the border by people making money off of them. Trying to make it sound like it is all about tons and tons of drugs. 1 hour 21 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFWXybe6…

3 hours 31 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Yjxrb8…

SJG

Trump’s New Budget Slashes Medicare and Bolsters Military in an “Attack on the Poor & Middle Class”
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/12/t…

SJG

White Supremacist Kills 49 Muslim Worshipers in New Zealand as Islamophobic Hate Crimes Rise Globally
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/15/w…

The gunman live-streamed the attack and published a manifesto in which he praised President Donald Trump as “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.”

Anne Frank Center: Trump’s Personal Twitter Account Amplifies Hate and Should Be Suspended
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/18/a…

SJG

Jeff Healey Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Qb-6Qk…

Trump Vetoes Congressional Repeal of National Emergency
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/us/po…

After 49 killed in mass shootings at 2 New Zealand mosques, prime minister vows, 'our gun laws will change'
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/multiple-dead-…

SJG

We're Still Right
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016JP…

Kenny Wayne Shepherd - While We Cry - live Summerfest 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4T14P37…

Former Neo-Nazi: President Trump May Be Complicit in Growing Threat of White Supremacy
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/18/f…

SJG

This is a horrible idea:

Trump says it's time for US to recognize 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'
https://start.att.net/news/read/article/…

It only underscores how the relationship the US has with Israel is just completely wrong.

SJG

AOC bites back:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/alexandria-oc…

SJG

Why the Real Migration Crisis Is in Central America, Not at the Southern U.S. Border

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/1/wh…

SJG

Robert A. Caro on the means and ends of power
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019…

The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-i…

Origins of the Perennial Philosophy School of Thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_CNg4dp…

Ananda Coomaraswamy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda_Coo…

AMLO: How Mexico’s New Leftist President Has Navigated Corruption, Inequality and Trump
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/3/am…

https://clipground.com/images/symbols-of…

SJG

Zubin Mehta and Khatia Buniatishvili
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efM91uXU…

Dave Matthews Band - All Along The Watchtower (Live in the Central Park)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaMQ-R9…

Trump and his people are going to end up being prosecuted in the International Court, and the sooner the better!

Trump Purges DHS Leadership, Threatening to Make Immigration Policies Even More Draconian
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/9/tr…

Kirstjen Nielsen’s Cruel Legacy: Outgoing DHS Secretary Proudly Separated Families & Caged Children
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/9/ki…

Stephen Miller’s Uncle: Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Comments Demonize Asylum Seekers & Stir Racist Hatred
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/9/st…

SJG

Trump and his people are going to end up being prosecuted in the International Court, and the sooner the better!

Trump Purges DHS Leadership, Threatening to Make Immigration Policies Even More Draconian
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/9/tr…

Kirstjen Nielsen’s Cruel Legacy: Outgoing DHS Secretary Proudly Separated Families & Caged Children
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/9/ki…

Stephen Miller’s Uncle: Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Comments Demonize Asylum Seekers & Stir Racist Hatred
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/9/st…

SJG

Trump confirms possible plan to send immigrants to sanctuary cities, contradicting White House denials
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-confirms-wh…

Hey, anything, so long was we can trade them Trump!

SJG

Charges Dropped for U. of Arizona Students Who Called Border Patrol “Murder Patrol” at Campus Event
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/23/c…

Right-Wing Vigilantes Hold Migrants Hostage on U.S. Border. Did Border Patrol Give Tacit Approval?
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/23/r…

Johns Hopkins Students Enter Week 4 of Sit-In Protesting ICE Contracts & Plan for Armed Campus Cops
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/23/j…

SJG

Frijid Pink - Earth Omen 1972 (full album) quite good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql0M45XH…

Wicked Lady - Blow Your Mind 1972 (Full Vinyl 1995)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsr3NzCb…

Trump says military incident at border was ‘probably’ a diversion for drug smugglers. The Pentagon sees it differently.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-…

https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/n…

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-se…

Mexican Soldiers Question, Disarm Two U.S. Army Troops in Apparent Confusion About Border Location, Incident Documents Reveal
https://www.newsweek.com/mexican-soldier…

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-bor…

SJG

Former DHS Analyst: Trump Administration Not Taking White Nationalist Threat Seriously Enough
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/30/f…

SJG

Soror Syrix
https://www.amazon.com/X-Vasa-Soror-Syri…

Foucault and Biopolitics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-VNHl0…

PHILOSOPHY - Michel Foucault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBJTeNTZ…

Biopower: Why We Don’t Revolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cpyp9OH…

Alvin Lee – The Bluest Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB6OlJqV…

As Venezuela Coup Attempt Fails to Overthrow Maduro, Guaidó Calls for More Street Protests
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/1/as…

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/1/ec…

SJG

Sammy Hagar - Standing Hampton - 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZqC1z87…

Supermajority: Cecile Richards Teams With Alicia Garza & Ai-jen Poo to Mobilize Women Voters in 2020
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/8/su…

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/8/ce…

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/8/ne…

SJG

Trump turns shooting migrants into a punchline at Florida rally
“Only in the Panhandle, you can get away with that statement!”

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/9/18538124/tr…

SJG

www.urbandictionary.com


TOP DEFINITION
san jose guy
A chump who enjoys GFE make out sessions in the front room of local strip clubs. He also enjoys Hungry Man dinners while sitting in his footy pajamas in his mother’s basement. A victim of brain erosion due to chronic masturbation.
I just enjoyed a great San Jose Guy experience! My cock is sore, and my tongue is burned (from my Hungry Man dinner), and my mom is upset because I got jizz on the mashed potatoes.
by Cashman1234 October 29, 2017

Dadillac, This thread is about Trump's proposal for a border wall, and you insinuate that the OP enjoys strippers and having frozen food at his mom's. Then accuse him of masturbating into food. I think you're confused.

Explosive Investigation Uncovers Greed & Infighting at NRA, Shattering “Myth” of the Group’s Power
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/10/e…

SJG

Github
https://github.com/

Mr. Lucky, Columbia South Carolina. Closed now. This shows picture of the building.

https://www.instagram.com/explore/locati…

SJG

Trump and Bolton are fucking nuts
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/14/w…

SJG

Trump is so totally wrong about our border and his wall.
http://www.metroactive.com/movies/The-Ri…

SJG

Trump and his party are just completely wrong about immigration:

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/17/i…

SJG

Detained, Abused & Denied Medical Care: How Trump Immigration Policies Led to Child Deaths at Border
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/21/d…

Jennifer Harbury: Deaths of Guatemalan Children at Border Have Roots in Decades of U.S.-Backed Genocide
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/21/j…

In my opinion, these matters will be prosecuted as Crimes Against Humanity, in the International Court. There is no statute of limitations on this. No US participation is required, and US law makes no difference.

SJG

SJ Mayor Sam Liccardo to Trump: San Jose Welcomes Migrants

https://www.sanjoseinside.com/2019/04/12…

SJG

How ICE Is Using Solitary Confinement to Punish Asylum Seekers, Including LGBT & Disabled Immigrants

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/22/s…

SJG

"Congress has been more than willing to provide resources and to work with you, Mr. Secretary, to address the security and humanitarian concerns and, at this point, with five children dead and 5,000 separated from their families, this is intentional. It's a policy choice being made on purpose by this administration, and it's cruel and inhumane."

video of exchange
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres…

SJG

Scott Warren Provided Food & Water to Migrants in Arizona; He Now Faces Up to 20 Years in Prison
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/29/s…

SJG

SJG's Interim Thread Locator:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Trump Escalates Economic Attack on Cuba, Banning Americans from Educational, Cultural Trips
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/6/tr…

SJG


Feminism
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

John Algeo, this guy is really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kdRaIc1…

John Algeo: The Ancient Mysteries and Modern Masonry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59x66gcT…

Scott warren should be shot. No illegals. Deport them all and publicize it. Publicize the terrible conditions theywill be kep in and publicize that children will be separated from their famiolies and imprisoned. End all immigration and boycott anything remotely progressive. That mneans you will not be boycotting anyone who contributes to society. No odubt SJG is a leech living off real Americans.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2…

Skibum609, the one who leeches off of our society is you.


SJG


Feminism
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

John Algeo, this guy is really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kdRaIc1…

John Algeo: The Ancient Mysteries and Modern Masonry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59x66gcT…

Tariff Temper Tantrum: Trump “Created a Fake Crisis & Has Announced a Fake Solution” with Mexico
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/10/t…

SJG


MG-TOW -- PUA -- PUAHate -- MRA
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

GACA: Who is down with Red Pill MGTOW movements?
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

LightningKay: The problem with white nights tel me guys what ya all think (closed)
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

IceyLoco: ANGRY WHITE MALE SYNDROME
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Dougster: James Damore vs Google (closed)
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

PaulDrake: Incels (Involuntary Celibates)
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

doctorevil: Stripper Material (closed)
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Marriage Markets: How Inequality is Remaking the American Family
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

How Many Find Women To Be Too Emotionally Explosive To Be Too Involved With, And Are Strip Club Dancers Even Worse? (closed)
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

TheDirkDigger: What is your success rate for OTC? (closed)
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Trixxi: The Economy of Strippers in Portland
https://www.tuscl.net/article.php?id=283…

The Ultimate Thread: SJG's Soap Box
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Trump Totally Wrong About Border and Wall
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Overcrowding, Rotten Food & Nooses: DHS Watchdog Confirms Horrific Conditions at Immigrant Jails
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/12/o…

SJG

“Somebody Is Going to Die”: Lawyer Describes Chaos, Illness & Danger at Migrant Child Jail in Texas
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/24/s…

Japanese-American Internment Survivors Protest Plan to Jail Migrant Kids at WWII Prison Camp
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/24/s…


SJG

Bleeding Communion Wafers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLxqzuVC…

This stuff is so far out that it becomes more like occultism than mere fundamentalism.

Ida, 47 million year old primate missing link to reptiles.
https://www.britannica.com/animal/Ida-fo…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinius

Shouldn't ever put children at risk by engaging in illegal activity, shame on the parents or the fake parents . Though they are treated multitudes better than they were in the prior administration.

^^^^ Remember to credit which Right Wing media source you are quoting from.

SJG

CNN the propaganda arm of Democratic party

CNN is not the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.

No such child jails under any previous administration.

SJG

You are either stupid or a liar or both.

You must be something worst than either.

No prior family separation or internment at border.

SJG

see that is the thing you are very very dishonest, there have been many articles written and it has been exposed that the separated family picture were taken during Obama administration. You will only ever believe your programmed leftist mind so I will not bother finding links for you. So enjoy you echo chamber of lines you are not worth mine or anyone time.

^^^^^^^^^^ this is what happens when cousins marry.

SJG

L

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This is serious:

https://news.yahoo.com/grim-reports-bord…

SJG

The fire hose of fake news from the establishment media this week on the issue of illegal immigrant families separated at the border is designed to mislead the American people — and to distract from Trump’s recent successes.
Here are the facts — 13 truths the media do not want you to know about President Trump’s legal, humane, and moral handling of adults and children who enter our country illegally.

Trump Is Only Enforcing the Law
The establishment media’s manufactured narrative about the necessary and moral separation of illegal alien parents from their children is designed with the specific purpose of spreading the fake news that, only as a means to be cruel, President Trump is somehow making all of this up as he goes along.


In truth, Trump is only complying with and enforcing the law, which is his constitutional duty and responsibility.



When the media claim Trump has a “choice,” what they mean is he has a choice to ignore the law as Obama did when he illegally released untold numbers of illegals into America.

Trump’s “zero tolerance policy” is merely his administration treating all lawbreakers as lawbreakers, because the only other option is to let them loose into America with nothing but a court summons.

Trump’s Only Choice Is to Separate Illegal Alien Families
When an illegal alien crosses the border into the U.S., he is a lawbreaker, and, like any lawbreaker (including American citizens), he is put into the criminal justice system.

This is the law.

Obviously, when an illegal alien is in custody, he is housed in an adult detention center. For obvious reasons, it would be illegal for Trump to “reunite” this family by allowing children to live in adult detention centers.

Keep in mind that when we are this early in the process, we do not even know if this is a real family unit. It is not uncommon for illegal aliens (including criminals) to pretend the children they are traveling with are their own. They do so in the hope this special family status will result in them being released (this madness is known as “catch and release”) into America with nothing more than a court date — a date many never show for, most especially those with criminal intent.



And so, while the illegal adult is held in an adult detention center, the migrant child is cared for in shelters run by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Generally, the adult illegal is processed quickly, sentenced to time served, and the family is quickly reunited during the deportation process.

In other words, in order to keep the family unit together, we can either put children in adult detention centers (unthinkable), put adults in child detention centers (unthinkable), or hold no one, which means “catch and release,” which means letting even more illegal immigrants loose to live in our country illegally.

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The only moral and legal option here is to temporarily separate families while the criminal justice system runs its course.

The Left Wants Illegal Aliens to Enjoy Privileges Denied to American Citizens
If an American citizen breaks the law and is funneled into the justice system, he is separated from his family and children. This American citizen is not allowed to keep his family with him in a detention center.

Once again, our media want illegal aliens to enjoy special rights and privileges American citizens do not enjoy.

One more point…

These migrants are guilty of walking minor children through miles and miles of desert with the intent of committing a crime (crossing a border illegally).

If you or I walked a child through miles and miles of desert with the intent of committing a crime, child protective services would take our children away (and should).

Asylum Seekers Not Breaking the Law are Not Being Separated
If you cross the border illegally and claim asylum, you are still a lawbreaker. Regardless of your intent, crossing the border illegally automatically puts you in the criminal justice system, where you will obviously be separated from family.

These asylum seekers are choosing to break the law, are choosing to be separated from family.



Asylum seekers who respect our laws, by turning themselves in at legal points of entry, are not being separated. Over-crowding due to the abuse of this policy might eventually make this impossible, but it is up to Congress to allocate more funds.

Trump Is Correct About the Loophole
In 1997, a consent decree called the Flores Settlement made it illegal for America to hold migrant children for longer than 20 days. Meaning, in order to keep the family together after 20 days of detention, we can either reunite the family by letting them loose to live illegally in America, or we can keep the parent in detention and place the child in a foster home or with a relative who lives in America.

Trump is wisely choosing to do the latter (for a number of moral reasons I will explain later).



A case involving an illegal border crosser not seeking asylum is usually adjudicated before the 20 days are up, which means the family unit is reunited during deportation and no foster care is needed. This, obviously, is the best case scenario.

Those who cross the border illegally and then claim asylum status (an important distinction from asylum seekers who obey the law) are another story, because the asylum process almost always exceeds the 20 days, and this is the law the Trump administration wants changed.

By speeding up the asylum process, the family unit can be reunited faster, either in the deportation process (if asylum is not granted — and this process is frequently abused) or in the resettlement process (if asylum is granted).

Another option is to end the 20-day limit so foster care does not become necessary. Parent and child can remain in the detention centers until the asylum process is settled.

“Reuniting” Families Would Be a Disaster for Countless Children
Again, the only way to “keep a family together” is to allow illegals to pour into our country.

This policy would be a total disaster, especially for the children.

If word gets out that America automatically allows illegal border crossers with small children loose into America just because they have minor children, this would only further incentivize those who engage in the child abuse of dragging children along on the unbelievably dangerous trek across the border — or, even worse, both exploiting them for catch-and-release and then trafficking them after making it into the country.



No one who truly cares about these children wants to further incentivize that kind of abuse.

Obama and Democrats Incentivized This ‘Family Separation’
Until Obama came along, illegal border crossings primarily involved young, single men. Obama incentivized the idea of dragging minor children along on this dangerous journey (where many children are sexually assaulted) through his policy of “catch and release.”

Once word got out that illegals with small children would be let loose into America, the number of children crossing the border exploded.

Again, the last thing decent people want is for the American government to further incentivize the cruel act of bringing small children along on this brutal trip across the border, which is exactly what Trump is hoping to stop with his zero tolerance policy.

Barack Obama Separated Illegal Alien Families, Media Said Nothing
Under Obama, when illegal border crossers were put into the criminal justice system, families were indeed separated. Obama, of course, rarely prosecuted, even though the law calls for it.

Neither Democrats nor the media cared about family separation then, which proves this manufactured and coordinated uproar is only about politics.




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Political journalism needs a bit of housecleaning on this child border crisis. I'll start. It was going on during the Obama years in large numbers. I never wrote about it. Was completely unaware, in large part because few reporters were interested enough to create critical mass.

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Political journalism needs a bit of housecleaning on this child border crisis. I'll start. It was going on during the Obama years in large numbers. I never wrote about it. Was completely unaware, in large part because few reporters were interested enough to create critical mass.


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To my colleagues out there chasing Pulitzers over this: Why didn't today's critical mass form when we were looking at unaccompanied minors by the tens of thousands in 2014. Why didn't those kids matter as much as these? Few of us chased those stories down with any vigor.

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The only reason the media suddenly came to care about family separation is as a means to fabricate a controversy, as a tactic to distract voters from three legitimate news stories from last week that benefit Trump: 1) our economy is booming, 2) Trump had a successful summit with North Korea, and 3) the Inspector General report exposed James Comey’s FBI as a swamp of corruption out to exonerate Hillary Clinton and frame Trump.

IMPORTANT: The ONLY Way to Unite Families Is to Release Them into America
Obviously, we cannot have children living in adult detention centers. Obviously, we cannot have adults living in child detention centers. Therefore, the only way to “reunite” these families is to release these illegals into our country.

The media will not tell you this because the media do not want you to know that flooding America with non-citizens is their true agenda. The rich and powerful love to exploit and abuse these individuals, as they can leverage their immigration status for illegally low wages, and politicians are salivating at the chance to bestow voting rights on them — and thus entrench their power.

But when you hear the media call for these families to be reunited, remember that is coded language that means only one thing: releasing illegal aliens into our country with nothing more than a court summons.

Incentivizing the Act of Bringing Minor Children Across the Border Is Evil
The media do not want to inform Americans of one crucial fact: the dangers inherent in crossing the border from Mexico into America, most especially the dangers faced by minor children. Sadly, these dangers too often involve sexual abuse.

Decent people who truly care about these children, like President Trump, want to do everything in their power to end this abuse — either by building a wall, or through this zero tolerance policy that will hopefully curb this abusive practice.



Evil people want these children dragged across the border, want this abuse incentivized by “keeping the family unit together,” because flooding the country with future indebted voters is more important to them than the safety and well-being of small children.

Those Who Come to America Legally Face ‘Family Separation’
Many people who come to America legally from other countries are separated from family. A big part of America’s LEGAL immigration policy involves family separation when one or two family members come over before the rest are legally or financially able.

And so, once again, we have the media and Democrats demanding special treatment for illegal immigrants that legal immigrants do not enjoy. Once again we are incentivizing lawbreaking and treating the line-jumpers better than those who follow the rules.

“Family Reunification” Is an Invitation to Human Traffickers
Because of “catch and release,” because of this dumb and destructive loophole carved out for families, the number of illegal aliens using children to enter the U.S. increased by 315 percent between October 2017 and February 2018.

Trump understands what is happening and this is why he has moved to a zero tolerance policy.

Anything other than zero tolerance only serves as an incentive for human traffickers and other criminals to use these children as their free pass into America.

Incentivizing such a thing is monstrous:

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"If there's any suspicion that they're not really truly related to those people, then they will be separated for their own safety," a chief border agent said of kids who are often recycled by smugglers to get adults into the United States.

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Media Do Not Give a Shit About American Families Separated by Criminal Illegal Aliens
Illegal alien families are choosing to be separated by voluntarily engaging in lawbreaking. These illegal alien families, if they so choose, can stay together, simply by obeying the law.

This is not hard.

Those who do not have a choice in family separation are the legions of American families permanently separated from family members when that family member is killed at the hands of an illegal alien.

As Steve Bannon accurately pointed out over the weekend, “I don’t see the mainstream media and the liberal left embracing the Angel Moms, those people who were permanently separated from their children because of illegal aliens who came over here and committed crimes and killed people. You’re being very selective.”

If one is enforcing the law, then the detained suspects have a right to a speedy trial.

By our US law, you cannot use indefinite sentence.

And minor children are not going to be suspects, only adults. So you have to take good care of the children and keep good records.

And you have to obey TX motor vehicle codes when transporting them. Everything the Trump admin has done here is illegal.

Much of the impetus for this came from Jeff Sessions. Both he and his boss are fully culpable, and there is no exception in International Law for a head of state.

SJG

Legal and illegal immiugrants collect welfare and other Governbment benefits at a rate of 2/1 over the native born so the idea these people are anything other than a financial drain and waste of resources is simply a lie. There is no such thiung as International law. The whole idea is fucking idiotic. No one on earth has a right to come here and if the people cheating, lying and stealing from the taxpayer were right wing whites from Easter Europe the sick demented people called progressives would be out planting land mines on the border. If people want to work to support foreigners feel free to donate your money, but as far as I am concerned Trump isa pussy and last weekend everyone here illegally should have been pissing themselves out of fear as they watched their fellow leeches get deported.

skibum, welfare is less of a financial drain on our system than the money which it sounds like you take out of it.

Feeding tube, funnel:

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/ad03578…

SJG

Juan González: There Are Refugees in Desperate Need of Help in Airports Across the United States
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/j…

Trump Admin Moves 100 Migrant Kids Back to “Child Jail” Despite Concern over Inhumane Conditions
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/c…

AOC Joins Other Progressives to Vote Against Dems on Funding Bill for DHS, Call for Abolition of ICE
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/h…

DHS Whistleblower Who Spoke Out Against Obama-Era Immigration Jails Condemns Conditions on Border
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/d…

Survivor of WWII Internment Camp Speaks Out: Japanese Americans Know the Trauma of Child Detention
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/j…

SJG

Detention Center, Clint Texas.

Use zoom outs and changing back to maps to see where this is.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/deten…

SJG

On highway 20, only about 2.2 miles from the Rio Grande and the border.

About 20 miles from El Paso.

Still very close to the main interstate, highway 10.

SJG

Our laws do not allow indeterminate detention, or concentration camps or anything else like that.

Criminal suspects have a right to a speedy trial. And minor children are not even going to be suspects.

You have to take care of them. But this kind of ineptitude does constitute Crimes Against Humanity, and as such it is grounds for impeachment of the big boss, for incarceration of everyone from there down.

SJG

Children, likely already undernourished from their journey, they are not gaining weight in the detention facility, they are losing weight.

https://openingoftheway.createaforum.com…

SJG

Children, likely already undernourished from their journey, they are not gaining weight in the detention facility, they are losing weight.

Dr. Scott A. Allen


https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/d…

SJG

Amid reports of inhumane and degrading conditions at child immigration jails along the southern border, we speak with Satsuki Ina, a Japanese-American psychotherapist who was born in the Tule Lake Segregation Center, a maximum-security internment camp for Japanese Americans during WWII. “After decades of living our lives as compliant and quiet, and demonstrating and proving ourselves as good citizens, many of us have felt that it’s time for us to speak out, to protest, to resist, and to speak out in ways that we haven’t in the past, because we know what these children are experiencing,” Ina said. “We know what it’s like to have family separation, to suffer the long-term consequences of the trauma of being incarcerated—for some of us, more than four or five years.”

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/j…

SJG

It's really simple....don't want to end up in one of these camps.....don't cross the border illegally.

I love how you guys just put this on Trump as if it hasn't been happening for several administrations. The first pictures the set off the firestorm were actually taken from the time that Obama was in office. Where was the outcry then?

You want to blame Trump for the issues on the border.....who was it that only wanted to give 5 billion to the issue when 25 billion had been offered before. We need to build a wall (technological or physical) to help control who crosses into the country precisely because you don't know their records. The left wants to ban guns because every once in awhile one out of the millions of privately owned guns gets into the wrong hands and someone dies. Well, how much higher of a percentage chance is there that an illegal immigrant will commit a violent crime against a citizen? What's the line....if it will save just one life...?

Yes, large numbers of migrants are always a problem, and they have been so since before Trump.

But it was Trump and Jeff Sessions who decided to handle it in this idotic manner.

It is illegal, and I want to see those guys prosecuted in the International Court, as that has no exemption for sitting head of state in a Crimes Against Humanities Trial.

Suspected Criminals have a right to a Speedy Trial. I think it is 60 days. Our laws do not allow indefinite detention.

And suspects have to arraigned before a judge, like within 4 days or a week. They get to enter a plea, and the judge can decide if there is some legitimacy in the charge and to holding the party for trail.

No federal judge is going to sign off on minor children being suspected criminals for an illegal border crossing.

The reason we have not arrested border crossers before is because that means keeping another country's people in US jails. We keep enough of our own people behind bars as it is now. It is expensive.

So we just send them back. What happens then?

Well it is always a problem. Many will try to cross again. With many, they are not even from Mexico, hard to tell.

So we need some experts here and we need some leadership.

We have laws about federal foster care standards, and we have no legal justification for not adhering to those in the care of these migrant children.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/27/de-blasio-…

"despite legal standards that require children who cross the border to be speedily released or sent to state-licensed shelters that are equipped to offer longer-term care."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/26/us/ho…

A wall does not keep people out, not if they are really determined to get in. A wall might help if you do not have enough guards. But that border is so long, and the Rio Grande Valley is so rugged, that it will only be the highly determined who will try it anyway.

If someone has left whatever they had, to walk the distance from Central America to the US, then they must be highly determined. A 30ft wall will not have much effect.

The reason that this is being made into such an issue now is simply the reason immigration has always been made into an issue, RACISM!

SJG

You are a complete and utter moron, Trump is following the laws on the books. Democrats do not want to fix the laws because they know they will lose votes and it is fixed they can continue to act like fucking babies.

I kjnow you are whinging lefty bitch but get informed you dumb cunt.

Speedy trial, arraignment, no indefinite detention, these are constitutional rights already tested, and then min standards for federal foster care when court dismisses cases against minors.

We hadn't arrested border crossers because it costs money and it accomplishes nothing.

SJG

Illegals are not citizens and do not have any constitutional rights, you dummy.

SCOTUS has always made this clear, constitutional rights always apply to everyone.

Once court dismisses case against minors, the only justification for holding them is for their own protection, and that means federal foster care standards.

Arresting border crossers, Jeff Sessions gave the order, but it is still stupid.

No immunity in International Court Crimes Against Humanity Cases for sitting head of state.

Spanish Court's indictment is what brought down Chile's Augusto Pinochet.

Germany did not really write their constitution, it was handed to them. But they do abide by it. Universal Jurisdiction is part of it.

Indictments now against Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush, and these never expire. Won't see either of those guys at Oktober Fest, cause they would be arrested. Actually it is anywhere in the EU.

SJG

These are also economic migrants not refugees, we don;t need more low skilled workers. SJG your shit state has 36,000 homeless in LA alone, give them jobs and get them off the street first.

I agree that many probably are economic migrants. Don't have evidence for this, but it is probably true. US sanctions though have likely contributed to this.

Without Mexican's doing your basic jobs, California would have fallen into the ocean a long time ago.

I've lived in buildings where some units have Mexican workers shift sleeping 10 to a room.

Homelessness is caused by other things, like destruction of socio-public identity by the Middle-Class Family. Often this has then been compounded by the mental health system and by salvation religion and the recovery movement.

We really have no choice but to go to

1. Universal Basic Income
2. Strong Public Housing Offering
3. Medicare for all with cost controls
4. At least some basic free college.

Once we have this the real border is in the Social Security Computers. The physical border no longer matters.

And with these, more people will be able to have paying employment and to run profitable businesses than with the way things are now.

SJG

Undocumented Americans are de facto residents and do have rights.

Constitutional rights are based on person-hood and jurisdiction, not "citizenship".... Meaning, the constitution uses the terms person and people for the most part, it doesn't differentiate individuals based on legal status. It also precludes that who ever resides in a said jurisdiction is subject to said laws and rights irrespective of legal status.

Also keep in mind that the vast majority of immigration cases are civil and not criminal.

^^^^^ All good points. But anyone being detained has to be brought before a judge. And no judge is going to sign off on prosecuting children for crossing the border.

SJG

The child wouldn't have to. They're legally not responsible if they're minors and are accompanied by an adult guardian. But the reason they're separating families is to put on a show and try to legally harass said minors. Trump is a sadistic sick fuck with no concern for the law.

And one of the nuremborg principles is that no one is above the Crimes Against Humanity law, not protected by their nation's laws, not protected by being head of state.

The German people were made to accept this.

SJG

Nice!

Some of you are too ignorant and stupid to have a valid opinion on the matter.

1- The constitution applies to persons subject to US jurisdictions. It doesn't state that these persons must be citizens, nor their legal status in the country.

2- Undocumented Americans don't collect welfare nor any other benefits. The proper term for those who qualify is qualified non-legal residents and they can only collect on behalf of their American born offspring.

3- Prosecutorial discretion, deferred action and the fact that many have a right to be in the US, makes undocumented immigration a grey area....legally.

Its not about agreement nor disagreement with me. Their basic knowledge of the constitution and legal system, while flouting feigned knowledge of both, is what makes them fucking idiots.

Their opinions are ill informed and ignorant.... and contrary to reality.

Some of you are too ignorant and stupid to have a valid opinion on the matter.

1- The constitution applies to persons subject to US jurisdictions. It doesn't state that these persons must be citizens, nor their legal status in the country.

2- Undocumented Americans don't collect welfare nor any other benefits. The proper term for those who qualify is qualified non-legal residents and they can only collect on behalf of their American born offspring.

3- Prosecutorial discretion, deferred action and the fact that many have a right to be in the US, makes undocumented immigration a grey area....legally.

Illegal aliens cost US taxpayers billions

FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.


Illegal immigrants do not qualify for Obamacare but under federal law, hospitals and clinics are required to provide urgent medical care without regard to legal status. Pregnant women are entitled to prenatal and postpartum care under the Women, Infants and Children program. Infant delivery costs are paid for by Medicaid. A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found a federal-state immigrant insurance program cost $2 billion a year in emergency treatment, not including the $1.24 billion in infant delivery expenses.

Illegal immigrants are not entitled to food stamps, but families with U.S.-born children are. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, 31% of such families use the SNAP program and more than 50% of Central American families in the U.S. use at least one welfare program.

This is especially true of asylum seekers said Art Arthur, a former immigration judge now with the Center for Immigration Studies, an immigration think tank. Arthur said because there is a three to five year lag time between apprehension and court appearance, young asylum seekers put down roots, allowing many to access programs they are initially unaware or afraid to use.

"You're going to buy a house, get a job, have kids," he said. "So their entire life changes, and that means their claim changes. Because of a lack of a bright line for immigration judges, appeals are endless and people don't leave."

Recognizing that many illegal workers fill jobs communities need, 26 states offer them *state-funded* benefits. New York state offers up to $300 a month in cash assistance. Eleven states offer free or subsidized medical and hospital care. California offers food stamps, legal services and benefits for those over 65 or disabled. Gov. Gavin Newsom recently asked for an extra $50 million from lawmakers to serve the state's illegal immigrant population.

Its BS that they dont collect benefits and it is just another thing lefties lie or gloss over.

Come here legally and respect the laws of the country you want to live in.

0-3 Icey. 100% wrong.

I stated facts. Please tell me where the constitution specifies that rights are reserved for citizens. The vast majority of rights outlined in the Constitution are phrased as general limitations on government power, not special protections for a specific class of people. Protection from state government interference is the only grey area I can think of....

If I were wrong, then your fascist beliefs would be in place, they are not coz the constitution protects people from them.

Skibum, you're denying that....

1- The constitution doesn't address the rights of any specific class of people

2- That the undocumented parents of American citizens are classified as qualified non legal residents when it comes to getting welfare benefits, since those benefits are in effect for their American citizen children.

3- That those who entered as children, who have many relatives in the US, have no criminal records, etc, are generally free from any sort of prosecution. That the vast majority of deportees are deported only after having been arrested for some sort of crime. Hence the policy of prosecutorial discretion. And that there are those who have a right to be here via asylum and temporary protection status laws...

Undocumented immigrants are like anonymous donors. They do the jobs which no one else wants.

And US Law does not allow indefinite detention.

SJG

The National Defense Authorization Act allows indefinite detention. Although it doesn't have anything to do with undocumented immigration.

The National Defense Authorization Act is an Act of Congress. The prohibition on indefinite detention comes from SCOTUS doing its job in interpreting the Due Process Clause in our Constitutional Bill of Rights. Indefinite Detention is something which they ruled upon long ago.

And Migrant Families a threat to National Security?

SJG

Total Solar Eclipse Will Be Visible Along a 6,000-Mile Path Next Week, But Only Parts of Chile, Argentina Will See It
https://weather.com/science/space/news/2…

Car Keys and Wallet Dating
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Warrior15: Cashless Society - Should we mongers be concerned ?
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

Democrats 2020
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

How long did you wait to club again after wedding? And why?
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

The NDAA allows indefinite detention for anyone, including citizens, labeled as "enemy combatants".... which is a very vague term.

But our constitution trumps that.

SJG

Border Agents Caught Posting Racist, Sexist Messages About Migrants & AOC in Secret Facebook Group
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/3/bo…

Scott Warren of No More Deaths Faces Retrial for Providing Humanitarian Aid to Migrants in Arizona
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/3/no…

SJG

The Inhumane Treatment of Migrants Is Not New. It’s a Key Part of a Decades-Old Bipartisan Policy
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/10/j…

John Carlos Frey: America’s Deadly Stealth War on the Mexico Border Is Approaching Genocide
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/10/j…

How the Climate Crisis Is Pushing Central Americans Out of Their Homes Toward the U.S.
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/10/j…

https://www.amazon.com/Sand-Blood-Americ…

SJG

I will not be shopping at Home Depot again. Did not know anything about it, shopped there when needed. But no more.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/home-…

SJG

If undocumented immigrants are collecting public assistance benefits, that really is no big deal.

SJG

^^^ it is if My taxes are paying for it.
^^^ fuck yeah! Home Depot is my all time go to for my home improvement shit. Gonna up my spending!

I'm more outraged at tax dollars going to fun endless wars, the prison industrial complex, corporate welfare, etc... those things are a lot more hate worthy than feeding poor people... but some have their values and priorities twisted.

Nidan, That money collected in taxes never was your money, not ever yours to keep, and you always knew that.

And without illegal immigrants no one would do the work. They work cheap, and you then begrudge them some little extra? Besides illegals only come here to work, and they do work hard, often sleeping in shifts 10 to a room. Immigrants are good for your country, not bad.

Maybe you Nidian would like to just go back to where ever your people came from. America is a land of immigrants, not a nationality.

Icey is correct, our whole nation has its priorities twisted.

http://foodnotbombs.net/new_site/


Know Your Rights: How Immigrant Rights Activists Are Preparing for Looming ICE Deportation Raids
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/12/t…

https://www.chirla.org/

Ousted Honduran President Zelaya: The 2009 U.S.-Backed Coup Helped Cause Today’s Migrant Crisis
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/12/m…

SJG


Ekaterina Mechetina plays Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWbwJ78g…

The people before me came from Germany. I have no problem with immigrants. Just illegal immigrants who take the tax dollars that I worked to pay. Bring in all the immigrants that we can handle. Just bring them in LEGALLY as my heritage did. Hard working German immigrants who came to this country LEGALLY and were proud do do so.

You do not work to pay tax dollars. You get pay, including money that has to be paid in taxes. Your wages were negotiated under the current tax code.

All of these current refugees want to be admitted legally.

SJG

I call bullshit on “all the refugees”. There are many who have nefarious desires. If the want to be admitted legally, then they should start by crossing the proper points of entry and then show up for their court hearing to determine their “refugee” status. Not skip out never to be seen again. You and I will not agree on this topic.

THey are refugees, other wise they would not have left all they had and walked so for. Remember the US has screwed up democracy in Honduras.

And also, our constitution does not allow indefinite detention, or anyone for any reason.

SJG

What's more nefarious, wanting to enter a country illegally so your kids can have enough to eat, running water, an indoor toilet......or spending tax money on wars, the prison industrial complex and corporate welfare?

All that xenophobic Trump supporters accuse immigrants of is really just being people who try to do what is just and right. The reasons these migrants are disliked is simply because they are poor, that and their race.

I hope Trump and his people do get prosecuted in the International Court, Crimes Against Humanity. US law and being head of state will offer no protection.

https://www.discussionist.com/1015313745

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/12/21/…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_C…

https://www.ecchr.eu/en/

Bush indictment
https://www.ecchr.eu/fileadmin/Pressemit…

https://ccrjustice.org/home/what-we-do/o…

We know that this is why Bush bought land in Paraguy

https://www.counterpunch.org/2006/10/20/…

It's near the Fritz Thyssen property

This doesn't mention that, but South America became the haven for Nazi's, and the Bush Family has always been their emissary.

https://www.history.com/news/how-south-a…

Mobster Meyer Lansky had tried to set himself up as the liason between Israel and the Post War Nazi Party in Argentina. Israel was right to refuse that.

SJG

I like how little outrage there is over wealthy Russians, Israeli and Chinese mobsters buying up real estate in the US to launder money. How Chinese doctors in the US organize tours so Chinese people can have their babies born in the US... Or human trafficking from Asian countries and Eastern EUrope... Yet the poor Honduran fleeing AMerican created violence and just wanting a better life for their family, is demonized.

This kind of mindset is why I have zero respect for right pieces of human shit....

They are only prejudiced against migrants from Mexico and further south because they are poor and hardworking.

America has always been built on the backs of people like that.

SJG

They're prejudiced against them because they look different from them and are poor. They don't mind illegal wage slavery, they'll benefit off of it but forbid those people want to be treated like human beings....Its modern day slavery

Shift sleeping 10 to a room. Basically they just want employment. But for this, they are demonized.

SJG

while everyone is silent about those exploiting them...

SJG......WTF?

We really have no choice but to go to

1. Universal Basic Income
2. Strong Public Housing Offering
3. Medicare for all with cost controls
4. At least some basic free college.

This stuff is just crap and untenable. You are asking for the government to just give this stuff away....money for not working, housing for no money, medicines and treatments for no money and education for no money. Who is going to pay for all of that? More government debt, higher taxes....and who will suffer? The people who work their asses off and pay taxes. No! This country was based on people making their own way. The idea of the government taking care of everyone is anathema to the constitution. It was written to restrict government from sticking its nose into every free person's business. And look at how far we've gotten away from that! We have to pay the government to own a property...every year....forever?! You want to go fishing....you have to pay the government?! They tax you when you earn money, when you spend money and just about every time that you do anything anywhere. It's crap. It has been bringing down the country for the last 100 years and will only continue to take it in the direction of countries that have gone full socialist/communist and have FAILED! What we need is our liberty back. We need to let the safety net go and let people handle their own shit. If you choose to do nothing, then you get NOTHING. Minimum basic income.....for what? It's the fucking story of the ants and the grasshopper....I say fuck the grasshopper!

Oh...and anyone who is against illegal immigration at the southern border is racist. Way to generalize and demonstrate the playbook of the left. If anyone disagrees then they must be anti race, anti woman, anti this, anti that and pure evil. There are people who don't like Mexicans or Latin@s out there just for that reason....but it's not the fucking majority.

Anyone with a brain should be against illegal immigration. Those people don't use up resource? What a fucking lie! The kids go to the schools that citizens have to pay for. They use doctors and hospitals that others pay for. They take jobs that others could take, driving down wages if not flat out replacing others from work. But here comes the old....but they take jobs Americans won't do. Do you know why....because they take less than minimum wage to do the job. Take away the 10 to 20 million illegals (of all races) from this country and look at how the employers would have to scramble to find people to work! They will offer higher wages and benefits because they need to attract people to come and take the jobs.....THEY compete for workers (supply and demand). When there's a flood of cheap labor, down go the wages and benefits because the employers can just throw a stick and hit someone to take the job....for less than minimum wage.

I would support shooting everyone in this country illegally as a cost cutting measure.

Skibum, the Nazis you so often defend on TUSCL enacted the solutions you propose....


Primo, SJG's tenets are more attainable and sustainable than endless wars, wage slavery, and corporate welfare and socialism for the super rich. I question the mental stability of people outraged by affordable housing, accessible healthcare and subsidized education...

Of course you don't understand people ourtraged by paying the tab for fucking losers like you ansd the scum coming across our borders to vote Democrat and leech off hard working natives.

You're not outraged by your money going to pay for wars, corporate handouts, welfare and socialism for the private sector, socialized medicine for politicians and their families?

Prim0, we need people "not working".

Lots of things need doing, but not things which the market economy will pay for.

As Buckminster Fuller said, We already produce more than enough of everything. We can take care of every single person even better than it was with royalty in past centuries.

The reason we do not see this is that we demand that everyone prove that they can earn a living.

SJG

Everyone can't earn a living because jobs aren't created for sustainable development, they're created by the private sector for momentary gain.

hence why we have economic bubbles that pop

Corporations provide jobs to people who pay taxes, so no I do not consider corporations leeches the same way I do the people who breed like rats and get paid for it. I do not mind paying for the military, but I would redirect some of what we spend on munitions to the soliders and ssailors under the thgeory that higher pay would draw better recruits. Other than that the remainder of your post Icey was so retarded it is and was not worth a response.

Yeah corporations provide tax paying service and production jobs in China, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Haiti....

Actually most get tax refunds coz of the low wages in the US....

Skibum, we long ago crossed the line where most paid employment produces nothing that people need to live.

Our planet Earth is a spaceship. To live on it, one needs some of the life support.

But most paid employment, business, and corporations do not produce any life support, they just use up resources and create pollution.

They don't make money either, only the gov't does that, it's just green ink on paper.

UBI will let more people have jobs, good jobs, and it will let more people have their own businesses than their could be as it is now.

SJG

^^^ 100%

'We're better than that': Leading Democrat rips Homeland Security head over Trump's child separation policy

https://www.yahoo.com/news/were-better-t…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFGQZeI…

Elijah Cummings D - Maryland
Cummings on migrant child detention: ‘None of us would have our children in that position.’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRWXMKN1…

These guards in the detention centers, you know what they must be doing. I am sure that they've got other uniforms folded up and stashed away, like at the bottoms of their lockers. When these internment centers are liberated, these guards will already be long gone. If anyone tries to stop them, they'll just say that they work at Walmart or Burger King, something like that.


https://www.neveragainaction.com/

SJG

R.I. attorney general has interviewed more than 30 witnesses in Wyatt Detention Facility probe
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/rhode-…

https://www.abc6.com/story/40945287/ri-a…

What is the full history of these detention centers? When where they built and for what stated purpose? And then, how have they been used since?

Seems like it is probably a Republican Spoils System.

SJG

AG: Wyatt probe could take weeks
https://rilawyersweekly.com/blog/2019/08…

SJG

Sen. Merkley Condemns Trump’s War Against Migrant Families as U.S. Moves to Indefinitely Jail Kids

The Trump administration is moving to indefinitely detain migrant children and their families, reversing decades of U.S. policy. The Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services is expected to issue a new rule today to withdraw from a 1997 federal court settlement known as the Flores agreement, which put a 20-day limit on migrant family detentions. We speak with Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley, who made headlines last year when he was barred from entering an old Walmart where the government was detaining about 1,500 immigrant children in Brownsville, Texas.

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/23/j…

https://www.providencejournal.com/news/2…

https://www.amazon.com/America-Better-Th…

http://www.browndailyherald.com/2019/08/…

Use zoom outs plus changing back to maps to see where this is.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8926579,…



SJG

Tuuci Umbrellas

https://www.tuuci.com/

California, 18 other states sue over Trump policy on indefinite detention of migrant children

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — California opened another front in its legal battle with the Trump administration over immigration policies on Monday as officials announced a federal lawsuit challenging a new rule that allows indefinite detention of migrant children and their families.


The 19-state lawsuit, which was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California and is co-led by Massachusetts, was unveiled by Gov. Gavin Newsom and state Attorney General Xavier Becerra, who criticized the president for ignoring a court settlement agreement that limited detention of children to 20 days.


“No child deserves to be left in conditions inappropriate and harmful for their age,” Becerra said Monday. “The actions by this administration are not just morally reprehensible, they’re illegal. Children don’t become subhuman simply because they are migrants.”


https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/nat…

https://www.neveragainaction.com/


Illinois joins lawsuit on migrant child protections rollback

https://www.wifr.com/content/news/Illino…



R.I. detention center inmate dies at hospital

https://www.providencejournal.com/news/2…


20 attorney generals sue to protect safety of immigrant children in civil detention
https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/l…


Today, Sacramento California
Gov. Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Xavier Becerra announce legal action on immigration

"...this administration has taken an action which we intend to prove in court is not permissible by law..."

***** Watch This Video ******
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3volw6D…

*****************************************

7 children have died so far in detention

1997 Flores agreement
https://cliniclegal.org/sites/default/fi…

California has filed 60 lawsuits against Trump under Attorney General Xavier Becerra
https://www.kqed.org/news/11770057/calif…

SJG

This guy is really good:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Bec…

SJG

Trump reportedly promised pardons to aides who break the law to build border wall by 2020 election
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/28/trump-pr…

Telling people that it is okay to seize property and break environmental laws is grounds for impeachment.


SJG

White Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e4KTTyF…

Sen. Murphy Issues Statement on President Trump Diverting FEMA Funds to Support Immigration Agenda
https://insurancenewsnet.com/oarticle/se…

DHS to Transfer Disaster Relief Funds from FEMA to ICE
https://raventribune.com/dhs-transfers-d…

This will mean more lawsuits!

Trump does not have that authority.

SJG

The Museum Trustee Behind a $130 Million Lawsuit to Keep ICE Detainees in Prison
https://hyperallergic.com/514677/wyatt-d…

RI Governor discusses detention center after protest incident
https://www.newportri.com/news/20190829/…

So that Wyatt center has debt, and financial interests seem to be driving this.


Illinois joins lawsuit to sue Trump over rollback of child immigrant protections
https://www.mystateline.com/news/nationa…

SJG

B52's 2011. Athen's GA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBpYsS5V…

“All-Out Attack”: Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Policies Target Children, Cancer Patients & Servicemembers
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/30/l…

Justice for José Antonio: Family Demands Accountability for Mexican Teen Killed by U.S. Border Agent
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/30/j…

Family of Mexican Teenager Slain by Border Agent Awaits SCOTUS Ruling to Determine If They Can Sue
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/30/s…

Border Patrol Has Killed At Least 97 People Since 2003. Hear Some of Their Victims’ Stories
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/30/r…

SJG

Only 97 criminals killed? Overpaid Government workers cannot even kill people properly. Democracy.org = socialist/nazi hate group.

^^^^^^ skibum609, why do you always make me want to bury you up to your neck in an ant hill?

SJG

The Trump Administration Has Been Sued More Than Any Other Since 1982
https://fortune.com/2019/08/30/trump-adm…

California's attorney general calls EPA emissions rollback 'a monumentally stupid decision'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/…


Sacramento California
Gov. Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Xavier Becerra announce legal action on immigration

"...this administration has taken an action which we intend to prove in court is not permissible by law..."

***** Watch This Video ******
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3volw6D…

*****************************************

7 children have died so far in detention



SJG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm6qw_ye…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp7KfG9A…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CuNBeng…

really good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAb26yvy…

Leaked Letter Shows Where Military Will Reinforce Trump’s Border Wall

The Defense Department is redirecting billions of taxpayer dollars to help fulfill a presidential goal. Here’s how the Pentagon plans to spend that cash.

9/3

https://www.thedailybeast.com/leaked-let…

California Governor Gavin Newsom and Attorney General Xavier Becerra sue to block the Trump administration's "public charge" rule, which would deny immigrants green cards if they are likely to rely on public benefits.


https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/a…


State Ban on Private Prisons Would Be Victory Against Immigrant Detention
https://ocweekly.com/state-ban-on-privat…

Flores case lawyers want to limit detainment
https://www.keyt.com/news/politics/flore…

SJG

Trump triggers Pentagon cuts to pay for border wall
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201…

https://www.kivitv.com/news/national/pen…

Scott: White House and FEMA 'convinced me there's plenty of money' for Dorian response
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk…

SJG

Exposed by efforts to close Wyatt Detention Center in Rhode Island:

Artists Call for Kemper Museum of Contemporary Art to Drop Trustee Tied to $130 Million Lawsuit over ICE Detainees
https://www.artforum.com/news/kemper-mus…

SJG

Gov. Jerry Brown taps Rep. Xavier Becerra as California's next attorney general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3UoQ5nQ…


Rep. Xavier Becerra hosts gun control discussion in L.A (2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZcQuZN0…


Document raises prospect of an eventual sale of Wyatt detention center in Central Falls (Rhode Island)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/compan…

SJG

California lawmakers have passed a bill banning private prisons in their state that will also lead to the closing of at least four immigration detention centers there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGpMM6Qc…

SJG

Calfornia Bans Private Prisions and ICE Detention Centers

video airs at 6pm Pacific Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JlQN9cI…

These video available now, CoreMesa, San Diego area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irqik1Yv…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rlx-H-1…

SJG

^^^^^^^ Gov. Newsom expected to sign, ending private prisons was one of his 2018 Campaign pledges.

And he still supports AG Xavier Bercerra's suit against the Trump Admin's use of Immigrant Detention.

SJG

California Bans Private Prisons, and the Immigrant Detention Centers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIlEGkUC…

I believe that as more comes out about this, it will become clear that a big factor in these immigrant detention centers is just Trump getting to hand out money to his friends.

SJG


Neoliberalism 2 hours (good)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc2bJaVf…

Detention center moves sale agreement to closed session (Rhode Island, Wyatt Center)
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Dete…

https://www.latimes.com/california/story…

SJG

https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news/bla…

This detention program really is about money, and that I am sure is part of the crappy food.

SJG

CA passes Bill that Bans For Profit Prisons/Ice Detention Centers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLfle7hO…

SJG

Rosicrucian Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cRlS8qL…

The American Electoral Republic has failed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRtvI5CX…

Ocasio-Cortez: Ukraine allegation one of the most serious we have seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHNL872u…

Planet Nine could be a miniature black hole hiding in our solar system
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/…

NYT: Trump Talked About Electrifying Border Wall and a Water-Filled Trench Stocked With Snakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyVHkfCi…

Trump pitched shooting migrants in legs, NYT reports
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqFBRp8H…



These are the people tied up in Trump's tangled web
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwiRVO4v…

These people are all Diplomats, Military, Intelligence, or Lawyers. They have gotten to where they are by being careful what they say, and by showing that they can carry out duties responsibly.

They are the diametric opposite of Donald Trump.

SJG

As Man Dies in ICE Custody, California Moves to Ban For-Profit Prisons, Including Immigrant Jails

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBtTxJc…

SJG

This detention program www.girlsescort.net really is about money, and www.ciudadhot.com that I am sure is part of the crappy food.

New info coming out about Immigrant Detention Centers, it is not good:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/for-pr…

SJG

Pope Francis Condemns Migrant Detention Camps in Christmas Day Address

Millions of people around the world celebrated Christmas Wednesday. Pope Francis prayed for migrants around the world and condemned “inhumane detention camps” during his annual Christmas Day address at St. Peter’s Basilica in the Vatican City.

Pope Francis: “May the son of God, come down to Earth from heaven, protect and sustain all of those who, due to these and other injustices, are forced to emigrate in the hope of a secure life. It is injustice that makes them cross deserts and seas that become cemeteries. It is injustice that forces them to endure unspeakable forms of abuse, enslavement of every kind and torture in inhumane detention camps. It is injustice that turns them away from places where they might have the hope of a dignified life but instead find themselves before the walls of indifference.”

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/12/26/…

“Floaters”: Martín Espada Pays Tribute to Salvadoran Father & Daughter Who Drowned at U.S. Border

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/1/14/m…

SJG

disturbing photograph

https://e3.365dm.com/19/06/768x432/skyne…

SJG

Protesters gather outside ICE detention center in Marysville CA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_QwwTnS…

SJG

Erasing History: The National Archives Is Destroying Records About Victims of Trump’s ICE Policies

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2/6/na…

SJG

https://bigpicturereport.files.wordpress…

Electric Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt4z3tr4…

Human Rights Watch: 200 Salvadoran Asylum Seekers Killed, Raped or Tortured After U.S. Deportation
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2/7/hr…

SJG

Trump is a Con Artist
DAVID CAY JOHNSTON: LIVING IN TRUMP'S AMERICA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSTKcGie…

Risk of Nuclear War Rises as U.S. Deploys a New Nuclear Weapon for the First Time Since the Cold War (low yield bomb, the infamous Neutron Bomb, making people think nuclear war is winnable and thinkable)

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2/7/us…

Ultimate Stripper Shoes, 10"
https://www.amazon.com/Pleaser-BEYOND-08…

6" Stripper Trainers
https://pleasershoes.com/products/deligh…

What's happening to U.S. asylum seekers forced to wait in Mexico ( unsafe, crowed, threatening, dangerous )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VkvSmon…

No Parallel to this Anywhere in the World!


2 former Justice Department officials on Trump, Barr and the rule of law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlRDXYjk…

How the Republican Party went from Lincoln to Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VOM8ET…

Has Trump Taken Down Our Democratic Republic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saISUXfX…

Trump and his party and his backers like Stephan Bannon use conservative cultural shibboleths to promote an economic system which completely devalues real work and is completely exploitative and unworkable. It is nothing more than a spoils system, a way of pocketing money.

Bernie Sanders, why Socialism is better than Capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ9j_JT9…

Actually even with Medicare for All, Free College, and The Green New Deal, and with UBI which Sanders is not even talking about, you still do not have Socialism.

For that you would have to also get to public ownership of all large and strategic industries.

And Sanders is only talking about Democratic Socialism.

So workers actually deliver the goods and services which are needed, not just run on a treadmill to the benefit of the financializers, while being mocked and called "losers".

SJG

Squatting in high heels
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/95/38/56/95385…

Peter Frampton Do You Feel Like We Do (2019, quite interesting)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4u6KQj…

Creedence Clearwater Revival - I Heard It Through The Grapevine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXJQOWsp…

Amy Winehouse/Paul Weller - I heard it through the grapevine.Hootynanny 2006.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1799Yps…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkUIu7Fs…

Chicago - Old Days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRTMWzVo…

Trump's separation families at US-Mexico border amounts to torture, doctors say
https://thehill.com/changing-america/res…

Full Report
https://phr.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/…

SJG

Daniel Castro - I'll Play The Blues For You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioOzsi9a…

Slow Blues/ Blues Ballads 1 - A two hour long compilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8oaxsHC…

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061

Orange man attacking some of our very most basic laws and traditions:

New Justice Department Task Force Seeks to Strip Naturalized Immigrants of Citizenship
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2/28/h…

SJG

https://wandi.fun/en/south_korea/seoul/s…

"How would you like to enjoy an intimate french kissing session with some college student from Seoul? If making out with hot young girls is a thing for you, definitely do not miss out Kiss Rooms (or Kiss Bang in Korean) in Seoul."

https://www.worldnightinfo.com/korea/kis…

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3513
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3560
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=2305
https://tuscl.net/photos/5cbf9f521a3ae

Graham Bond ✪ Holy Magick [full album]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Exbl-S…

Grahame Bond - Love Is the Law [full album / bonus tracks]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyg8x36f…

M Davis Bitches Brew 1970 Full Album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50fB5L1v…

Trump pulled those troops out as a favor to Putin and Erdoğan. Trump should be charged with treason.

Catastrophic Humanitarian Crisis in Idlib as Syrian Troops Advance & Children Freeze to Death
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2/28/i…

SJG

Neil Young - Imagine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R15uLXHq…

No Way Out: Report Finds Central American Asylum Seekers Trapped in Mexico in Dangerous Conditions
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2/28/a…

SJG

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What is Trump right about?

Rep. Ro Khanna on Border Guards Whipping Haitians, U.S. Drone Strikes, Afghanistan & Ending Iraq War

https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2021/…

SJG

Tragedy in Texas: 46 Found Dead in Suspected Smuggling Attempt Amid Biden’s Harsh Border Enforcement

https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/28/4…

SJG

Texas governor sends migrants to New York City as immigration standoff accelerates
(Greg Abbot is an imbecile)

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/t…

SJG