Is the strip club decline widespread, or just in my area?
carolinaclubman
North Carolina
I have lived in NC for twenty years or so, and have historically driven to Columbia SC, Myrtle Beach, or Fayetteville to scratch my strip club itch. Until about ten years ago, maybe even five, there were probably twenty five to thirty five clubs between these three towns, and extras or at least extremely high mileage was available in probably half of them. Now between the same three towns there are maybe a dozen clubs left. It hasn't been a case of clubs dying off and being replaced with new clubs, they just die off or are closed by local government and no new clubs open to pick up the slack. It use to be a wealth of choice, now the options are very limited. I am just wondering if people in other parts of the country have seen the same thing happening, or do I just need to move? Ok, I doubt I would move, but it does suck.
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The Bible Belt giving clubs a hard time doesn’t surprise me though.
IMHO the single biggest cause was the recession and following extended period of economic malaise during a meager "recovery." There were simply too many clubs for the new economic reality that plagued us until just the last year or so and many areas still have not recovered as well or as evenly as others. A lot of people dropped out of the workforce during that period, which certainly didn't help matters.
Population shifts are also hurting clubs in the northeast and other northern areas. CT, NJ and MI are three examples of states that are losing affluent residents to places like TX and FL and I'm sure there are others. With that migration goes dollars that were spent in clubs in those areas.
There are also political and societal changes which are causing headwinds. As we all know, local governments in many areas are zoning out clubs and/or preventing new clubs from opening to replace those that close. For example, it is almost impossible to open up a new club in NY or any of the New England states, so when one closes for whatever reason, it does not get replaced.
Where I now live, which is the beneficiary of both positive migration and a booming economy, the clubs are flourishing and we've even had two new ones open in the last few years. This tells me all I need to know about the ongoing viability of strip clubs, which is that they will likely continue to see demand in places where the conditions are good.
Really though metros don't need dozens of neighborhood clubs. Having one club that all the dancers and Partons know is the best club helps everyone as long as management isn't predatory.
I hate to admit it and feed Dugan’s ego. But he has a good point there.
Speaking of quoting stripperweb, I remember somebody stated that (on a thread about worst US dancing cities):
“And on top of all of this other bullshit, the money is not that great in most US cities right now. I fully expect that "urban" clubs where they throw money for stage sets will by far surpass the traditional Gentleman's clubs and titty bars in the next 5-10 years if they haven't already.”
^And I suspect she is right.
In my area there are something like 8000 college students at any point in time and the mix churns in and out as new students come sign in and the population grows. If you select from the top 5%, that still leaves 400 to choose from, which is probably an order-of-magnitude more choices (in that age group) than all the strip clubs in the city. The dive-ier places I went to three years ago have gone to hell. We do have beautiful girls at three low-contact, high-end, strip clubs within driving distance; they also pull from some big colleges nearby. But why pay several hundred dollars for drinks and lap-dances when I can take a college-age SB to my house, turn on the fireplace, and have a great evening together? Current SB since August is a 21-yr-old blonde bombshell, easily stripper quality at a high-end club.
Brick-and-mortar clubs only make sense for spur-of-the-moment fun and I bet the strip-club decline will continue.
I hate to admit it and feed Dugan’s ego. But he has a good point there. "
Why re-invent the wheel for the same topic? Also, fear not on the ego feeding front. I don't take anything posted here seriously enough for that to ever happen. ;)
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php5?id…
*Rimshot*
I didn't realize every coed was looking for a sugaring relationship.
@OP I think strip clubs are pretty much the same as they always have been, it's cyclical, and the areas that are good, are in the upswing part of the cycle, the areas that used to be good are on the downside at this time, my opinion it's the economy and the area, and the correlation between disposable income and public perception plays a larger role, than many here are giving credit to.It's very similar to many things in American life, shopping malls are changing, the public taste changes, some entrepreneur, will come up with a new concept, or twist and it will all swing that way. In general Nightclubs, are just like restaurants, there is always a search for the next big thing.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm not intimately familiar with where you are from.
You had written "In my area there are something like 8000 college students at any point in time..."
I guess I should have known what you meant instead of what you wrote.
You later wrote, "If you select from the top 5%, that still leaves 400 to choose from, "
Do you really mean that I can choose any of the girls in the top 5% and she gets no say in it?
I just did a search and there are currently 6301 girls in my area age 18-26 who have completed college or who are in school (you can filter by education). This would leave out the over-26 crowd still in school.
@25 - as I recall, Seeking Arrangement's published college participation rate is about 8% in my area. I'm too lazy to research the college population, but I can think of four state schools and two private schools within driving distance -- well over 100,000 students, but I should divide by 2 as @DC points out.
The point I'm trying to make is that the top 5% or so of this online pool can be at least as attractive as the pool of strippers in my area. More to choose from online -- maybe by a factor of 10. And for every stripper that goes home with customers, there are probably three others that don't, and I'm no longer interested in lap dances.
Of course, she gets to say "no." Some of these girls get hundreds of messages and sugaring in that category has almost no resemblance to the escort world where they always say "yes." However, this 21-yr-old I've been seeing since August I would rank in the top 1% of SA girls and this one did say "yes."
Since you don't qualify regarding being able to wear men's pants you'd fit right in as a girl albeit an ugly one, dipshit!
A wimpy liberal that resorts to name calling and flinging insults when someone says something he disagrees with then throws a tantrum and goes crying to the website owner when he's exposed for who he really is AKA the "realdougster" troll and later exposed as the broken english speaking troll AKA "Sven69"
A guy on a site dedicated to strip club discussions and reviews that has never reviewed a strip club that originally only joined to post his leftist agenda AKA "josh43"
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Regarding being dumb as a fucking brick, you wrote the book dipshit! Lol
IMO, disposable income didn't recover after the 'great recession,' not enough money being spent to draw top talent.
How many others in the US have taken a big step back? Seattle? Providence? Atlanta? Tampa? Baltimore? Fayetteville? San Francisco? San Diego? Houston? Columbia, SC? New Orleans? Vegas? These are towns where if you had a pulse you could have ridiculously good times in the strip clubs. Little to no skill required. Even Phoenix seems to be taking a hit lately.
Sure in that list of towns there might still be one or two top shelf clubs per town, but there used to me so much more in each of those the club scene. Or in a place like Vegas you're paying way more than scale because the choices are way down around the clubs. Better off in the casinos there anyway for a talent grab.
In many clubs I visit, I see way more spectators than buyers (could be a regional thing or the particular clubs I hit - there are def clubs where it seems lots of dances are sold) - SCing is expensive - 12-minutes of fun/lap-dances can often mean you're down close to a 100-bucks, just like that - some custies may not blink at that, but for the avg SCer it probably weighs on their mind of how fast one can burn thru cash having SC-fun.
If more clubs/dancers focused on volume (cheaper dances and selling more dances) or at least have dance-specials throughout the night/day, I'd think that would loosen-up more wallets and more-$$$ being spent.
A)you are more knowledgeable about how to attain what you want, recognize the signs that identity those girls that will accommodate your wishes,
B) generally a loosening of standards across the board here in Florida
1. Learning that the boundaries are much more customer friendly than previously recognized.
2. Visiting the right clubs
3. Establishing a reputation at a club or with specific girls.
4. Wearing the right attire.
5. Showering more often than weekly.
... Oh but that's the catch. A lot of girls like being lazy at work. They would rather do 1 VIP for one guy than 1 dance for 5 different guys. Extras girls don't do single dances, they want to sell blowjobs.
So it's tricky for sure.
I am starting to look at SA.
But then there is also Walmartization, the legitimation, the cleaning up of strip clubs.
No front room intimacy, ruins the back room choreography.
Need to invent some new kind of venues, more resistant to LE.
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Now that number is down to 2,079 two months later. There is a definite decline.
w.r.t. the nostalgia angle - could be that 20 years ago there were similar #s of good and bad SC areas except back then one was much less connected and informed so perhaps most PLs could not compare & contrast like we do today.