Younger Customer Observations

nicespice
Starting off with personal anecdotes...

*Last night (that was a very slow shift), I made $600 off a customer. During the last hour, I gave him 15 dances. When I asked him for $300, he shrugged his shoulders, counted out six benjies, and gave it to me. He looked like he was either my age or maybe even younger.

*I had an ex regular during the summer of 2017. He was a college student doing a summer internship in Austin. He believed that he was older than me, but that was because I lied about my age. I was actually the older one. For one month, he would visit me 3-4 times a week and give me ~$100-150 each time.

*I also had a generous but short lived ex-regular who also was younger.

*I used to go to school with somebody who was familiar with both strippers and escorts, but he preferred escorts. We had a conversation about it before he was even 21.

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Even past those times, I’ve had enough positive experiences with younger customers. If a younger customer seems interested, I’m happy to approach him.

I’m writing this because I noticed some dogpiling on DC9428 earlier today. But...

1. DC9428 and Vantablack, based on my experience, aren’t all that unusual.

2. I do believe there is a culture change going on that sets the stage for younger PLs.

2a. “In the early 2000s, about 73 percent of adults between the ages of 18 and 30 had sex at least twice a month. That fell to 66 percent in the period from 2014 to 2016, according to our analysis of the GSS.”

2b. “From 2002 to 2004, 12 percent of them reported having no sex in the preceding year. A decade later, during the two years from 2014 to 2016, that number rose to 18 percent.”

Source: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/…

^Also the above reading gives speculation for the reason for less sex among young adults. Such as #metoo movements and the like.

Thoughts?

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nicespice
6 years ago
One other thing: I wonder if younger males, trendwise, are just simply splitting into more extremes.

Because there is an increasing trend of (non-mongering) males working less hours and living off their parents or even a girlfriend.
flagooner
6 years ago
"Sexless young adults"?

They don't have any genetalia? What letter is that in the LGBTQ.... acronym?
twentyfive
6 years ago
^Fruitcup Eater ;)
MackTruck
6 years ago
Interesting question. Seems like younger females are nore sexually agressive now than a decade or two ago. I wonder if this has anything to do with why some younger guys are obstaining. Seems like it may have domething to do with gender role reversal. Also living off of parents or girlfriend deminishes self esteem and this could play a role
pistola
6 years ago
^Its the internet. Plus the pussification of men in general in the US.
flagooner
6 years ago
Fruitcup is the newest euphemism for pussy.
Warrenboy75
6 years ago
There are a lot of variables Nicespice and what goes on in a club and outside of a club are somewhat different.

I'll agree the whole going to school, not finding a career that is self supporting, and living in your parents basement probably has an impact on the mindset of a 20 something male

When you reference Austin, TX you have a fair amount of "kids" that come from money.....peeling off a few 100's to them isn't the same as the kid who comes from middle class America.

I grew up when HIV and many of the other nasty viruses that are out there today didn't exist. I'm not going to give a blow by blow account but having sex by the time you hit 16 was no big deal. There were girls that "didn't" but there were plenty that did and the ones that didn't for the most part had a Plan B to keep steady boyfriends happy.

I also do believe women are much more comfortable being the aggressor today than 10 years ago.

My last steady SA girl was about as forward as any man could want once the bedroom door closed. In public you'd never expect it. Not by her looks or by her actions.

Icey
6 years ago
A trick's age doesn't matter. Its about money, I don't know a single stripper who is picky about whose money they get
docsavage
6 years ago
Younger guys overall seem to have less sex than before but it seems like the top twenty percent of guys are having lots of sex so it's the bottom eighty percent that is actually having less sex. Girls used to look at the average guy as a potential boyfriend or husband to be a provider type. Now lower class women have access to more welfare programs and the stigma against being on welfare is gone. Middle class women all have their careers and don't need guys financially so they are just picking the sexy bad boy to have sex with. I don't see strip clubs as providing a substitute for average guys because getting a lap dance from a stripper really isn't a satisfactory replacement for having sex with a girlfriend for most guys. I work with a lot of younger guys and they seem to have no career goals and spend a lot of time drinking, watching television and playing video games.
Vantablack
6 years ago
I've spent my fair share at the clubs. I would spend an average of $200 - $250 per visit.

The sex decline could be due to a variety of reasons in addition to the ones mentioned in the article. I haven't had sex in a while because I don't go actively looking for it. As of recently I've just been focusing on my career
Salty.Nutz
6 years ago
I will admitt that i am not very good with women. During my 20s, the girls that were my GFs and i was attracted to physically (slim body, cute face) would always end up cheating on me. So i dropped my standards and started dating fat and not so cute girls, but i still ended up jumping through tons of hopes and bullshit for pussy that was mediocre. So i stopped giving a fuck and started to travel to south america and australia and ukraine in search of pussy. however, my traveling started to wear on me and i was approaching my 30s. So then i started to hit on girls, that i thought were really hot in regular night clubs in the US. if i was going to jump through hoopes might as well be on my terms. Whenever i was about to fuck a girl that i met in a club and she asked me to wear a condom i would walk out. my wife took it raw and we ended up having babies. during that same time period i was going to strip clubs, and discovered you can have fun for 600 dollars. thats why i still go.
Salty.Nutz
6 years ago
go for this guy, for dropping 600. hopefully he gets some pity from you
GoVikings
6 years ago
"Frat guys brag about having sex with 20-30 girls per year as if its nothing."

that number seems very high. these guys are probably much more of the exception than the norm.
Icey
6 years ago
30 girls a year isn't that high or a number, that's about 3 girls a month, that's very doable. Sex isn't hard to get
Icey
6 years ago
As for younger guys not having sex. Blame the pussification of America. You can't tell who is a fag and who isn't anymore. They're bigger bitches than bitches.
GoVikings
6 years ago
“For fuck's sake PhatBoy 20-30 girls a year is an extreme amount by pretty much everybody's else's standard”

Agreed
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
I noticed back when SF Redbook was running the huge number of young, not married, and well off guys who were regularly patronizing AAMPs ( Apartment AMPs, with an escort grade level of service).

So these guys had no SO to hide this from. There was no reason they couldn't be banging a GF. In earlier decades these guys probably would have been married.

There does seem to be in both men and women a new turning against marriage.

And so it does not surprise me then that these same sorts of guys are also showing up at high mileage strip clubs.

SJG

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strippercutie404
6 years ago
I live pretty close to a large state college and have a lot of friends who are currently there. I have several friends who've gone off to other colleges as well and are telling me about their experiences there.

DC I don't mean to disregard your experiences but is it possible that you've just had an unusual experience that is shaping your opinion? I don't really notice people being so exclusively into one time hookups as you describe. Either your experience is odd or maybe your college is just super weird but I don't think your experience can really be generalized to apply to all colleges. Plenty of people have one night stands here but its not like that's literally all anyone does. I know plenty of people who have relationships like you describe, they can just text somebody and they come over and have sex.

Nobody should listen to anything PhatBoy says, he probably rapes most of those girls anyway and then acts like it counts under his "no doesn't mean no" philosophy and then convinces himself he's the casanova of TUSCL. In-fact, I'm going to put him on ignore from now on and I suggest y'all do the same.
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Coming from conservative and religious backgrounds, their primary observation is that America now has so much wealth and social status inequity, that more and more women simply reject marriage to a man, unless he is part of an elite. Without that, he is likely to end up costing them money in a divorce.

So of those in college, they do not want relationships or marriage. They insist that such be delayed until they are out of college and pursuing an elite career. And, only to a man who is the same.

https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Markets-…

And their earlier work:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZ5…

And so these two authors came to the unexpected conclusion that as these women have turned entirely to the hook up culture, it is a necessity that they have access to contraception and abortion. Otherwise they could fall into the plight of the Red Families, locked out of the elite levels of education and employment.

DC has posted about his experiences before and I believe that this is exactly what he is seeing.

Even when I was in college, so very long ago, I feel now that I was also seeing this.

And I am not making these women wrong either. They have the right to do what they want, and in large measure I am applauding them. But for a young man in college, and with little outside world experience, and not understanding what is going on, it can be really hard on him.

I do not agree with the interpretations of these MG-TOW - MRA - Men's Right's types. But in their underlying experience I believe that there is truth. College in particular can really suck.

And so some do turn to P4P, even thought they have no spouse they need to hide things from.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
A lot of it depends on the costs of the school and just how elite it is, and I think most of all, is it mostly full time students without present outside employment? UC is that way.

The women want to graduate. More women graduate from college today than men. And the same for graduate school.

They know that unless a man has graduated and is in fact proceeding with an elite career, then likely there will be employment troubles down the road. They don't want to have to break up a nest egg in a divorce. So marriage is to be delayed.

So that is fine, if you get hook ups and if that is what you want.

The women do not want relationships because they take time, and they need that time for their studies.

Elliot Rodger was wrong to blame the women, they did not make our world the way it is. But if he was out in the work place, women would have been throwing themselves at him. I can testify to that first hand. They jump into your field of vision and call out to you and offer their phone numbers.

And I remember now a time at the Pink Poodle when a real hot big tits dance was throwing herself at an Asian man about the same height and weight as Elliot.

I commented to another girl, "Well, she likes him."

If a guy understands the situation of college and is prepared to make the conscious choice, usually VoCel, then fine. But most guys do not have the degree of perception at that age.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Very wise, career over PUA manuals!

The hookup oriented women, they do it that way because they want to be the ones in the driver's seat. They will get what they want, but without extra baggage.

Out in the work place, things are totally different. In college can be hell, especially if one does not understand it. And most young men will not understand it if they do not have other outside experience. College entails a huge slate of costs, and only some of them are directly monetary.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
When a guy is out of college and in the work place, women will be throwing themselves at him, everywhere he goes. But in college it can be a real hell. And far worse if he does not understand the what and why of it.

College is also way too much money and a poor venue for an education. We need to create other options.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
@Che, there is only one idiot here, and that is you.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Strip clubs are expensive though, as is most all P4P. Hard unless a guy has a huge income, beyond most people.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Strippers are supposed to be dolled up radical hotties, sexual radicals. So experiences with them can change your life. Well worth it!

But my organization will be even better.

SJG
Icey
6 years ago
20 bitches a year is one bitch every 19 days or so. That's very doable.

DC9428 thats not true. You dont have to pay to have sex with hot chicks. And admitting you're a trick is nothing to be proud of. Instead of working on yourself and trying to better yourself and get women the normal way, you try to justify this shit. That's not manly and not respectable.
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
PhatBoy99, good to see you weighing in. I think the issue is really full time college. Creates extreme time and money constraints, and nullifies a guy's status.

College girls do not want relationships. With no outside career, college man has no standing among outside women, and he has no time either.

College can be a prolonged hell.

Need to invent other alternatives, in my opinion.

SJG
RandomMember
6 years ago
"I think the older guys here saying young men don't belong in strip clubs are projecting their self loathing onto us. "
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Admit that I'm suspicious of young guys who inhabit strip clubs and call escorts. I didn't set foot in a strip club until age 38.

However just in a practical sense, if you consider time-value-of-money, it's a big mistake to blow money on luxuries like strippers and expensive cars while you're in your 20s. All that can wait until you have a career and passive income.

...unless you happen to be a trust-fund baby.
nicespice
6 years ago
“go for this guy, for dropping 600. hopefully he gets some pity from you”

As a regular? Tbh I don’t think I can. He reminds me too much of my boyfriend. Mostly in how he talks. It would be too weird.
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@che Well that sucks. Idk what the situation is like in the Philippines. But if she wanted to do FS for money, then she should have pretended to be more enthusiastic about it. If there is a trafficking situation, then that sucks :(
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@RandomMember Hmm, what would you consider a good net worth and/or income level?
Salty.Nutz
6 years ago
Well at least this guy figured things out early, and he does not give a fuck about dropping 6 bills in a SC. Before i got married i went all in for like 2 months, and hooked up with so many hot women. in those 2 months i ended hooking up with more women that i ever did compared to trying to date regular and uglier girls in about 7 years of trying. i was reckless but, its my highlight reel.
Icey
6 years ago
That's the sickest shit Ive ever heard....................parents thinking their trick son is psychologically healthy for paying hoes for sex while he thinks approaching girls the normal way is "rapey" Norman Bates in the making!!! Shit reminds me of Rob Zombies Halloween remake
Icey
6 years ago
NiceSpice you're a trolling bitch if you actually claim to believe the shit you say on here. No normal stripper would claim that shit. No one cares about whose money they get. Money is money and a trick is a trick.
nicespice
6 years ago
Fuck yeah I’m a trolling bitch. Not that it matters. I still say way more genuine and self-aware stuff than you do. :)
TrapBaby304
6 years ago
Ugh you do realize that alcohol just helps some people loosen up and some girls get drunk before sex cos they've had an uptight upbringing like yours lmfao

Sex isn't rape! A drunk girl who WANTS to fuck you is more normal than paying a hoe who just needs/wants the money. YOU'RE the real sexual predator lurking around strip clubs looking for dancers desperate enough to engage in prostitution or who need money badly enough to give you a GFE. THATS exploitive.

jester214
6 years ago
This clown is hilarious.
Icey
6 years ago
Your parents would rather you pay hoes to fuck and strippers to cuddle rather than have you enjoy college parties and go out and meet girls like any other college kid, ok. You have a great family
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
Why are you so invested in attacking someone on an internet forum that never did anything to you? @phat/trap
Mnaz
6 years ago
I still don’t understand why the guy paid $600 when the dances were only $300. The dances couldn’t have been that good.
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
^shit I'm all for it
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
I've been way overpaid for dances as well quite a few times, not gonna complain about a wonderful thing lmfao.
txtittyspice
6 years ago
It’s because...

“- I'm really a jerk which is why strippers hate me
- I'm broke
- I spend all day posting on TUSCL b/c I have no life
- I am scared of approaching women in night clubs
- I couldn't get a date or get laid to save my life: I have no idea how women, or normal people think”
Source https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php5?id…

But instead of reaching out to others to improve himself just like DC is doing, he has instead spent the last 12 years doing nothing to fix his own issues.
Icey
6 years ago
Yeah your parents agree that you buying hookers and GFEs is better than having a real social life
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
Why are you trying to get under his skin so badly? Like damn
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
Sounds about right
Jascoi
6 years ago
this young man behavior is better than marriage in most cases.

wish i was doing stripclubs (as we know some of them are now) when i was young. my life would have been simpler in many ways.
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
^I've heard from a lot of guys that they wish they were getting hookers all along than dealing with marriage lol
nicespice
6 years ago
@mnaz “I still don’t understand why the guy paid $600 when the dances were only $300. The dances couldn’t have been that good.”

Sometimes, a customer will do that. These customer types tend to be occasional big spenders rather than people who frequent strip clubs.

But I think most of this site would agree with you. I remember when one person wrote a review describing his own spending:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php5?id…
This individual received plenty of backlash on his review and there was even a thread here on the discussion board dedicated to it.
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
They should be more encouraged to spend more and do as I say. I like obedient men.
nicespice
6 years ago
^Smash that like button, blah. Lol
jester214
6 years ago
What kind of nut tracks how many parties and nightclubs they've visited?
Icey
6 years ago
What rapey behavior? Getting strippers to leave the club with me, getting high and fucking them? Or telling you that alcohol loosens bitches up, it'll loosen your bitch ass up too? Or wait, in your view looking for hoes in strip clubs and paying them to fuck and to cuddle is normal.
Icey
6 years ago
So you're regular retarded that explains a lot.

Every girlfriend Ive had has been a stripper and my side bitches too.

I said alcohol loosens bitches up. That's not date rape. That's the norm retard.
txtittyspice
6 years ago
I’ve been convinced. Phatboy is most likely the same troll as well.

Why don’t you log back into your RomanticLover account?
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php5?id…
txtittyspice
6 years ago
At least make fresh content. He’s just a better-written version of RomanticLover.

I really need to give a lot of thanks to the accounts:
RomanicLover
&&&
Troll_Defense_HQ

For giving me all the information needed. Spotting the pattern is a lot easier because of it. Lol!

Icey
6 years ago
Nicespice, go troll someone else bitch

DC9428 work on your reading comprehension retard.
txtittyspice
6 years ago
I also forgot to give credit to the txtittyfag(dot) account too.

And no, I won’t stop trolling you. You have provided me and several other users over the years too much entertainment.

“Dougster has evolved significantly over the 11 years he's been sharing here. First, he was obsessed with STARTING DISCUSSIONS IN ALL CAPS, afterwards moving on to a focus on DATING strippers, followed by attacking older customers who "need to pay for it". His latest incarnation using the current alias is lovable bad guy.

While Dougster admitted to paying for lap dances as a newbie, he quickly moved on to PUA (pick-up artist) techniques to get into relationships with strippers, especially during the davids era, and that remains his goal to this day”
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php5?id…
Icey
6 years ago
Over the years? You're sick in the head bitch.
txtittyspice
6 years ago
It’s not my fault you do these things to self-incriminate yourself.

I made a couple of observations based on your posting style, and then later realized others already figured you out a long time ago.
Icey
6 years ago
You don't like what I have to say so you make shit up.
txtittyspice
6 years ago
Hmm...

1. Too hyper aware of other posters considering “phatboy” takes too many breaks from this board to realize what’s going on?
2. Timing of your posts in relation to your other aliases.
3. In the long run, showing yourself inconsistent and running off onto a new persona. And maybe coming back after a while.

...I can’t believe I actually stopped believing you were a troll for a short while. That was pretty silly of me lol.

But now that I have a better grip on your posting style, I hopefully won’t be making that mistake ever again. And I’ll keep having fun with you for a while, with several of your accounts.
Icey
6 years ago
You have too much time on your hands bitchspice You're only saying this shit to be a troll.
txtittyspice
6 years ago
And you even more so than I do.
Icey
6 years ago
Nice trolling tactic but Im not humoring your poor attempts to claim Im someone else. How many troll profiles do you have on here? Looks like a lot. Im me. Not anyone else.
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