Circumstances and choices

Jeez if I was born in some shitty ass place like that and wanted to hoe for money I'd just go the webcam route. Sure they keep an even smaller cut than a regular camgirl would b/c cam studios, but the cost of living in places like Romania is next to nothing. I'm sure these ladies that hoe all the way make more money comparatively. Idk maybe they are even happy with it? I've heard of US escorts being relatively happy with their life or at least they claim to be on forums.

sorry ramble lol. but I wonder too sometimes.

Often we get in those situations by not thinking and just going with whatever

It's not until we wake up and make plans to change for something better is when we improve our positions

^ wow he sounds smart.

Were u the one staying at a $40 motel across the street from an arby's and motel is near the club?

Maybe she finds being desired in an FKK far superiour to the treatment she gets at home. Sick parents or child, she needs money for something scary and doesn’t hate sex. If fact maybe she was molested or worse and finds the situation in the club much healthier. Getting paid to be passed around would be better is some eyes than being raped twice a day, no?

Men in Eastern block countries, espcially Romania, Ukraine, and even thru to Russia are in short supply and they have objectified and dominated women forever. And the wealthier the man the more horribly he treats them, as a rule.

She might even cling to a dream that she will find in the club, a Western EU guy who will sweep her away and finally be nice to her.

Rather than pontificate you could just ask her what her story is.

Lol yeah that's me

I never ask why my dick is in her mouth. I just give thanks that it is.

I’m relatively happy with my life, aside from wishing I’d wake up and there’d be an extra zero in my bank account balance as well as my retirement account fund, I’m pretty satisfied.

Yeah there’s days I ponder, “should I just move to some random city and start a new career in something totally new?” But fear usually sets in and I say to myself “come back to reality.”

Probably a similar situation with Anna. Sex work for women in her country is common, she’s a superstar since she’s so beautiful. She has a window (age) and she’s taking advantage of it. If she gets lucky, and I mean real lucky, by the time she’s ready to retire maybe someone will wife her up. Hopefully he won’t treat her like shit.

Then again more of us just need to think like JS69 and not over analyze everything.

Don't think about it deeply. Just enjoy it for what it is.

Maybe - just maybe - she couldn’t find good lasagna in Romania...

“Couldn't she have married a wealthy man? Or at least a nice man with a decent income? There are so many better roads she could have gone down.”

In my opinion, if a female wants to go down the route of making money off her looks, it’s far better for it to be from multiple men instead of just one. Don’t put all your financial eggs in one basket and all.

I imagine that Eastern European women are a dime a dozen because of social class, which makes them worth less from a pricing standpoints. Just like how white dancers in the US are worth more for their time than black ones.

^that's not always true but stereotyping and prejudice does play a role in this industry.

Shit if she is as hot as you say she could probably make a fuckton on webcam even with very reduced cuts from being part of a studio... I used to camhoe but it just wasn't my thing, but I have half a clue about it haha. I've literally seen eastern euro 8s 9s charging like $10-$15 a minute for private shows online on a site they normally keep 35% on... Even if the studio girls only keep half they can still make fucking good money for Romania/Bulgaria or whatever.

My god, "hugest natural tits I've ever seen, on a slim body." I'll there next year.

Granted most girls won't get enough biz at those prices without first working their way up to it, but still. At least that's what I'd be doing if I was born in one of those. God bless America lmao

The road to fucking strangers (for money) is paved with poor decisions.

Johnsmith69 +1

"Just like how white dancers in the US are worth more for their time than black ones."

Thats because a certain race/group of people are experts in exploiting nonwhite groups of people

@blahblah That is true. Who knows, maybe they wanted to move to Germany for other reasons and the brothel is the foot in the door?

@Salty This is true. Classism isn’t fair but it is what it is.

@nicespice...are you trying to defend exploitation by calling it "classism?"

Umm is rather suck duck, save the money to attend Stanford law school , attend stanford law to work at the highest position in government instead of at a corporate law firm..than to marry a wealthy guy a d have restricted control over my life

^The flaw in your reasoning is w/o the dick sucking there’s no money to save. You just don’t have the life experience to apply logic.

“@nicespice...are you trying to defend exploitation by calling it "classism?"

No I’m not, but how would you counter it?

For example, let’s ignore German FKKs for a minute and talk about strip clubs. Specifically in my region because I know that area better. If a club is filled with white girls, dance specials are very unlikely. (There is this one club in Austin that attempts it, and TUSCL reviewers complain that dancers there don’t honor it.) However, in a black dive, $5-$10 dances are common enough.

Which goes back to, how would you counter it? Start giving black girls $20/song as well?

In a similar token with Germany, and others who know better can correct me, but Eastern European immigrants seem to be a dime a dozen. They want to upgrade their environment into a higher standard of living, and they will make do with the best they have. The FKK is probably better than being a taxi driver.

Or I’m assuming that’s why they choose that over being a cam girl. Honestly that’s probably the route I would have done as well (like blahblah said) but I don’t know all the facts.

They might be going to school like Nicole suggested. Who knows.

^You could have added the exploitation does not occur in a vacuum, and just because you feel that those girls are being exploited, I’m sure many feel this is a form of empowerment, making more money than they ever thought possible where the came from.

^good point

My comment did not make it, Apologies if this is a duplicate

She may not be there because of bad choices. She may choose this over her other options.

Twenty five years ago it was mostly single moms, addicts and women with no other options that provided extras. The Russians and Brazilians that came in may not have other work options but the attitude was there is nothing wrong with being a sex worker and they wondered why more American dancers weren't willing to provide extras. It was easy, good money and it might even be fun.

More recently I have noticed many American dancers have the same opinion. Some have told me they worked regular jobs before dancing and struggled to pay bills, worked more hours than not. Vacations and the finer things were out of reach. Once they started dancing their money issues disappeared.

She might make one hundred before taxes in an office job or as little as seventy five per day in a fast food job. One ten minute lap dance/BJ and she easily does better. The lucky ones find a PL like me that takes them to dinner, perhaps a show and makes sure they have as good a time as I do.

She can always get that crappy job when her looks fade. Why not capitalize on it now?

25..there is no flaw bc by "sucking duck" i meant to day suck duck and hence I said that I would rather save money from sucking duck than to marry someone wealthy only to have to compromise my life for another dumbass dude....

I shouldnt have to explain to u that sucking duck was obvious typo for sucking di ck . youre so stupid

Sucking dick **'

Which goes back to, how would you counter it? Start giving black girls $20/song as well?

What you are describing is called perceived value. i will illustrate this further, take one of your cars look them up and pretend you are going to sell it. now pretend you are going to buy the same car. why is there a difference in price if its the same car??? now if a black girl was working in a club full of "white girls" she is going to be charging the same as the white girls. Another example is Burberry recently burned millions of dollars of merchandise, but did they really burn that dollar amount that they claimed.im pretty sure their clothes are made in a sweatshop in china.

WTF Jack? Captain SavAHo? From you? I thought this place was smarter than that.

You should've brought her back to Detroit with you

Christianity is false, but Calvinism is true. The elect get sucked, the damned suck.

"You should've brought her back to Detroit with you"

I'm not Captain SavAHo. I've never tried to reform a stripper or show her how to lead a better life.

But I am something of a Captain DateAHo. I have had relationships with strippers that have lasted months or years. I enjoy seeing them OTC and going to dinners and concerts with them.

Anna the Romanian was the most beautiful girl I've ever fucked. After several sessions with her, we talked about our lives. She asked when I could return to Frankfurt. I asked if she would like to come to the US. But this was pure fantasy. Could I really find happiness with a Romanian whore? Would Anna find me tolerable for more than a few days? That's a road we don't want to go down.

@ jackslash you got enough money she will never get tired of you!