My ramblings about SS

nicespice
So when hanging out with Dr Evil yesterday, we were conversing for almost two hours before I went to work. (Which is a damn long time for me.)

During that time, I also wasn’t able to act the normal way I do when speaking with a customer. I was completely honest about myself, both personality wise and also my personal background.

After he went off somewhere (Wish I could have said goodbye properly, by the way), I spent the rest of the night stacking dances. What people here call “stripper shit” was back up in full force with topics like my personal background, etc.

I normally can lie pathologically no problem, but hearing my own bullshit was weird when this was directly after hanging out with a TUSCLer.

I don’t say “stripper shit” to patrons offensively. It’s defensive, because if I don’t, then I get stuck with time wasters instead of actual customers.

Which led me to thinking about dancers in general.

Almost no dancer wants to be viewed as a civilian girl. That’s someone who is incompetent at their job.

Which leads to dancers saying SS stuff at each other as well.

During one part of the conversation with Dr Evil, I said that I didn’t really notice that much hatred with SW. He begged to differ. And then I thought about it and I realized I’m probably desensitized because I spend enough time in club dressing rooms.

In my experience, in strip club dressing rooms, it’s acceptable to loudly brag about being a ROB. But only in some clubs is it okay to admit to do extras. And the ones who do admit to it are quick to tell you how they always break a grand or several.

The bravado can be a bit much and I don’t really befriend other dancers at work. I might just be too much of a goofball, lol. The dancer friends I do have, I didn’t meet them at work.

That being said, I don’t view Stripperweb/dressing room talk as hateful. It’s insecurity. Everyone has dealt with boundary pushing customers, both physically and emotionally. The attitude is also more defensive than offensive, in my opinion.

On the surface, it seems like the kind of customer who would write a review being blunt about extras would be more likely to be a boundary pushing asshole.

I assumed that as well. But after spending more time on the discussion board, I suspect now that it’s actually the reverse. It’s out of respect for consent that I think the most PLs try to find an option that is welcoming for himself.

It’s also what I think will keep the dancer directory limited. I believe that most dancers feel uncomfortable being rated and face the possibility of being viewed as something other than how she view herself. Controlling the narrative and all.

I do have to say, it was a welcome break from monotony that I spoke candidly without SS yesterday. But I don’t think I could do that all the time, lol.

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shailynn
6 years ago
"In my experience, in strip club dressing rooms, it’s acceptable to loudly brag about being a ROB. But only in some clubs is it okay to admit to do extras. And the ones who do admit to it are quick to tell you how they always break a grand or several."

- are you admitting that a lot of strippers run SS on their co-workers as well?

You've given me a new view on SS. You're saying SS is a stripper talking trash, maybe making up stuff or putting on a front to a customer to loosen his wallet. Like "you're so handsome" just so a guy will buy some dances, VIP, etc. To me that's just a standard part of the job, not SS.

To me (and I think many other PLs on here) SS is when you set an OTC date with a stripper and she flakes, or they miscount a song set, or they txt you to come see them at the club, then you txt them back and they never respond. That's true SS in my opinion.
April9424
6 years ago
I think what spice is talking about isn’t finessing customers.. it’s going around bragging about how you run guys tabs and cards up and rip them off.. get paid to do nothing, and talk shit on girls who do more (even if some of them do it on the sly). i think insecurity is a big part of it for sure.
Call.Me.Ishmael
6 years ago
I think of SS as anything a stripper says that is (most likely) a lie told to string you along and / or open your wallet. At least that's my take on it.

But yes, nicespice's perspective is interesting and adds a bit more nuance to a term we like to toss around.
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice in my experience SS is an overblown issue anyway. And I think I end up gravitating towards the strippers that don't overdo it and are as equal as I am in sharing personal and real information. Out of dozens of faves over the years I would say about a third of them got to the point of sharing their personal Facebook or talking more personal with me ITC. And it's not a big deal. Besides I'm highly perceptive and a good judge of character so I see through 99% of SS and hustles anyway. With me it really is wasted energy for a stripper to ladle SS heavy. Also I've always tried to keep my interactions on the physical level anyway, so I'm good with SS or real person talk provided there's at least some light physical flirting involved. My club fantasy is more FWB than GFE. And so I will always take SS and parlay it into a means to physically flirt some how. If she tells me I'm handsome I'll tell her to admire me up close then and get closer to her. If she tells me my dick is so big I tell her to knock herself out with it and enjoy it then. I guess what I'm saying is that I counter SS with my PL version of it and if she keeps playing along then I will too. As long as the night is fun and sexy, I'm good with whoever a stripper wants to present herself as.
doctorevil
6 years ago
I’ll stop by this evening for my proper goodbye :)
nicespice
6 years ago
Aww I’m not even there though. I’m caught up with my mom right now.
TFP
6 years ago
This was totally insightful! Thanks nicespice and it's cool you actually met up with a TUSCLer.

I thought it was interesting how you said you can usually lie pathologically but after hanging with Dr. E you starting actually catching your own SS. I always wondered if that's something that dancers just pick up from the job, lying a lot. Or do you just already have to be a great fibber to succeed as a dancer? I guess there's no such thing as an honest dancer. Seems all the dancers I get to know for more than just a set of dances blurts out lies like it's nothing. I mean sure it helps to lie to a customer about him being attractive, or his dick being he biggest you ever felt. But it seems like they lie about all other types of shit also.
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@TFP and nicespice I think maybe over time a stripper is so used to putting on her stripper persona it really is her for her time ITC. It may be why the work is more mentally draining than physical. And also if a woman is not inclined to lie IRL it may be mentally taxing on her to sustain those SS lies constantly.
Huntsman
6 years ago
When dealing with strangers or folks we don’t necessarily trust, it’s natural for any person to do or say whatever they need to in order to gain some control over the situation. That’s especially true in a strip club environment and not limited to either strippers or customers.

So regardless of what actually constitutes SS, I don’t take much of anything in a club at face value and I don’t blame strippers for doing what they feel they need to do, consciously or unconsciously, to not become prey. We say on here that they are young ladies in their underwear. They either know that or sense that much better than we customers do.

As a customer, I’m sure I’m doing or saying what I need to in order to not get outmanuevered, whether I realize it or not. But I don’t work in a club and have to do that all the time. I would think it would be a damn tough place to work and keep one’s head screwed on straight if a stripper didn’t have quite a bit of emotional maturity and an meaningful outside life.
jackslash
6 years ago
Nicespice is a great contributor. I enjoy her dancer perspective.

It seems to me that lying to customers is an essential part of a stripper's job. A dancer lies to make the customer feel good ("you're so handsome, smart, funny, interesting, attractive, etc."). A dancer also lies to make herself appealing and to protect herself. The lies go too far only when the dancer ROBs or harms or exploits a customer.
shailynn
6 years ago
jackyslash, when a stripper says she needs computer screen cleaner for her computer, would that be considered SS?
nicespice
6 years ago
@shailynn I view SS as just any bullshit a stripper says.

I think the glossary said “anything a stripper says to separate a PL from his money” or something.

@Zoey and @Ish Yep, I think so.

@Sirlap It might be your clear MO that helps counter it. It may be slightly different for another customer who wants a different fantasy.

@TFP I’d say for me, it’s definitely a pick up on the job thing. I remember not having a persona when I was a baby stripper and I wasted too much time with customers who took that as a weakness and dick me around on spending.

For example last night someone asked me “oh you got a boyfriend?”

I told him that I haven’t had a boyfriend in two years. I had a girlfriend in Austin but she gave me drama and kicked me out and that’s why I’m here in San Antonio.

And after all that drama I maaay wanna switch back to dick.

Couple minutes later, start giving five dances in a row.


jackslash
6 years ago
shailynn, you're getting into my OTC stripper territory, where I have lied to and used and abused. But for some reason I would do it all again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iBgTqz_…
flagooner
6 years ago
@nicespice
Thank you. It is very nice to hear an honest account from a dancer. Seeing things from your perspective and sharing your insights is much appreciated.
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice so with other customers with a different SS MO do you feel that they expect you to sustain a SS persona in order for you to keep them as a customer? My point is that it may not be as important as you perceive customers to need it. I'm also just saying that maybe you could be more like you were as with doctorevil as with other non-TUSCL customers and it really wouldn't be that big of a deal. Is SS really that important to you to begin with is my point.
TheeOSU
6 years ago
You might consider your original post ramblings but I consider it refreshing. It's good to see one of the "actual" female posters here open up a bit.
Countryman5434
6 years ago
Nicespice is the goddess of tuscl!
nicespice
6 years ago
Thanks for the supportive comments guys.

@Sirlap I like to minimize it when I can. But the SS is there when necessary.

Like for example, when I said how I lied about having a crazy ex girlfriend it’s because I’ve dealt that question plenty of times over and had trial and error.

Answer yes and you kill the fantasy and they spend less. (I was dumb enough to actually do this when I was new. The guy himself said I should have lied, lol)

Answer no and the customer often counters with the “What? A beautiful girl like you doesn’t have a boyfriend! That’s impossible!” And then proceeds to try to suck up time asking for OTC.

Nina did talk about how she was offered an internship because of someone she met. So there is definitely merit to being honest.

But I’m not too sure about that in my case. I actually did get honest about that with a regular that I was in school pursuing a degree, but when I answered honestly there was an awkward pause. Thinking back I should have said something like “Nursing.” It sounds more sweet and sexy than what I am actually going for.
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
"I think what spice is talking about isn’t finessing customers.. it’s going around bragging about how you run guys tabs and cards up and rip them off.. get paid to do nothing, and talk shit on girls who do more (even if some of them do it on the sly). i think insecurity is a big part of it for sure."

I do hear a lot of this as well. I feel like strippers are insecure around other strippers and make shit up all the time as a result. It isn't just customers at the club that deal with stripper bullshit!
Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
If you were impressed with doctorevil, wait till you meet Juice
nicespice
6 years ago
@blahblah lol true. Just smile and nod.

I’ve made the mistake of meeting with a friend and answering honestly when asked how much I made my last shift. Should have lied down, but I was tired. A couple minutes later, she tells me a number that’s $30 higher than me on her last shift.

But she was working in a downscale San Antonio club that offers $5 lapper specials while I was at an upscale Austin club. Like of course it would be easier for me to make money, it didn’t have to be a competition thing.
Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
I see SS as harmless (e.g. "wow you're so interesting", etc) - we want/expect the girls to flirt with us but in most instances they are not necessarily attracted to us so they gotta make it up - experienced SCers know, understand, and accept this.

Being a ROB is being intentionally malicious and different from SS (e.g. "give me $200 now and I'll stop by your hotel later", etc).
Corvus
6 years ago
I'm waiting for Dr Evils club review!

And Nicespice, great discussion topic.
PaulDrake
6 years ago
Awesome insight nicespice! Also thanks for keeping an open mind about us "professional" strip club customers.

For me at first it was hard SW hate, but I have come to understand it as just necessary venting about customers who are nothing like me. Even my CF is a occasional harcore ROB and it can be uncomfortable listening to her brag about it. But again, none of that is directed towards me.

It makes me think of this portlandia skit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-nzPyh…
PaulDrake
6 years ago
Correction:

For me at first it was hard to read SW hate
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
I think it's hard for a dancer to play fair in every circumstance. I don't think being a ROB or being cut-throat is ok under normal circumstance, but in some I am more than fine with it. One example is lining up guys for dances after a stage set- I come back from the back with the first guy and go to the next who a girl is sitting by at this point in time. Then I take him away for dances. I don't give a shit somebody else moved in- it was pre-arranged. But I don't normally cut-throat etc just like I don't normally act like a ROB.
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
At some point "playing fair" is going to fuck your money...
Electronman
6 years ago
Good perspective, nicespice. The doctor on the popular show, House, had a motto that drove his diagnostice work: "Everyone lies"

Sounds like the lying, exaggeration, bravado, deceit have very different goals depending on the audience.

The lying with customers is designed to string them along and make more money.

The lying with other strippers seems to have two functions-- to enhance status (I made more money than you did) and to avoid censure by your co workers (oh no, I'd never do extras in the club or agree to meet a customer for OTC).
PaulDrake
6 years ago
@blahblahblah23 - I think that is a totally fair point that it's hard for you to always play fair. Moat customers aren't familiar enough with the rules of the game and probably deserve some of it.
nicespice
6 years ago
@Papi Juice would probably be fun. If he’s an infamous troll I’d love to try to find out what all the accounts are.

And I agree with the ROB/aSstuff.

@PaulDrake Hehe yeah, maybe she is an occasional ROB bitch with asshole customers, though she seems very low in SS levels if she told you that.

@blahblah, lol nah if he went with you, then it’s all on him. The other one can quit her whining if she was doing that.

@electronman true



skibum609
6 years ago
Perspective drives reality and therefore reality is different for everyone of us as we each have a different perspective. I pretend to believe everything dancers tell me, while actually believing nothing. This is a game. Their role is to try to get as much as possible from us monetarily, using any method they are comfortable with. Our role is to get as much as possible for as little money as possible. When people adhere to their roles, this works. When they don't; it doesn't. I watched a delivery person bring in what had to be a $200.00 bouquet of flowers for a dancer the other day. I know he bought her a car. I know he is sure she just gives great lap dances now that they have "an understanding". I also know she does bbbjcim. She is playing her role. He forgot his. It's nice to see that Spice is real. I have enjoyed the dancers I have met from here, as I am sure my fellow tusclers have as well.
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
So is there a downside to SS? At what point does it become ineffective or even detrimental, if anything?
Huntsman
6 years ago
A strip club is a weird environment. There would be very little conversation without bullshit both ways. Since strippers are salespeople, there would be very few sales without any conversations fueled by a lot of bullshit.

I separate things into harmless bullshit and harmful bullshit. I don’t fault anyone for the former and don’t condone the latter.
nicespice
6 years ago
“So is there a downside to SS? At what point does it become ineffective or even detrimental, if anything?”

I think it’s a balancing act. Among strippers, most agree that the best earners are the ones who have been working for less than six months and also the ones who have perfected their technique to become really good at it.

It’s the intermediate levels of SS that tend to earn less.

@Mamisan SirLap is also Asian and he gives better massages than I would. ;)
PaulDrake
6 years ago
@nicespice - When you say doing it for less than 6 months is that because new girls don't do as much or any SS? Or just the new girl thing in general? Also unrelated you have posted a few times about customers that actually want drama. You should make a more detailed post about that and your experiences sometime as I don't think it has ever been discussed before.
3LeggedMan
6 years ago
I find SS to be a fun part of the game. No, I haven’t been working out, and I doubt my little member is the biggest dick you’ve ever seen. But my comments on her breast size and soft skin and beautiful hair are equally insincere. Let’s start that VIP session and quit the small talk. Thanks for sharing, nicespice.
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice I'll join mamisan's massage team only if you're my only customer. ❤️ =)

And you already know I only massage women and leave the yanky wanky to myself. :p
nicespice
6 years ago
@PaulDrake I screenshotted your post and I’ll keep that in mind.

Some of it is just being a fresh face, but I believe most customers do have a sixth sense when a dancer is truly new. I think it’s because new girls not only say less SS, but also express more genuine vulnerability.

@Sirlap :p
flagooner
6 years ago
^ and many customers think their pussy hasn't yet been abused. They feel they are still one of the privileged few to possibly gain access.
twentyfive
6 years ago
^thats So introspective of you.
flagooner
6 years ago
Don't even think about patronizing me.
blahblahblah23
6 years ago
I think the really new girls (under 6 months as nicespice says) do attract more customers too. They are usually more naive and don't have any disdain for the customers yet. Guys want to see what they can get away with, and from what I've seen it's easier to take advantage of new girls.
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Stripper Shit is only really a problem if she is trying to sell you dances and if you are receptive to it.

Remember, SS is mostly just insincere flattery, or some kinds of pleas for money or such.

That stops cold once you take the lead, she either gets real with you, or she is totally green light.

So select the girl you want to be walking up in the mornings with, approach her yourself and get a front room makeout session going. Invite her to the back room only when it is time for your own pants to come down, and then take her home with you and continue to see her regularly.

SJG

Giordano Bruno: Magician & Gnostic Saint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEzNb1A1…
shailynn
6 years ago
^^^ have you ever even been in a strip club before goat fucker?
twentyfive
6 years ago
^You’re assuming that a goat would go near him, my assumptions would be the goats would scatter, before he got close.
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Shailynn, have you ever tried to use more than .05% of your brain?

SJG

Giordano Bruno: Magician & Gnostic Saint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEzNb1A1…

related extremely good book:
Hermetic Deleuze
https://www.amazon.com/Hermetic-Deleuze-…
PaulDrake
6 years ago
@SJG - Why not just answer the question? It is a simple question, how frequently do you actually go to strip clubs? Obviously you aren't going to answer it because it pierces your reality blocking wall. So I guess instead just keep taking the abuse from everyone here you seem to love...

@nicespice - "Genuine vulnerability" is a good way of describing it. For me with really experienced dancers they have stock answers for all of the normal top 100 questions. So it can feel like any conversation is almost like they are just reading off of a script.

@blahblahblah23 - Yeah the lack of veiled disdain is really nice to be around. Also personally I would say I am the opposite when it comes to new dancers. I am way more cautious around them and more likely to get verbal approval before trying anything.
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
PaulDrake, my personal life is protected. It makes no difference whether or not you accept this. If you and I were f2f I would make sure that you did not leave until you did understand it.

SJG
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6 years ago
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PaulDrake
6 years ago
@SJG - If instead of saying "personal life" you might want to say "personal reality".
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Negative ass wipe. No one would allow you to be belligerent like this f2f. I certainly wouldn't. You are a keyboard troll. You seem to be suicidal.

SJG
nicespice
6 years ago
@blahblah. It’s kinda weird though, I did get jaded about the job but then later I become less jaded again.
nicespice
6 years ago
“Yeah the lack of veiled disdain is really nice to be around. Also personally I would say I am the opposite when it comes to new dancers. I am way more cautious around them and more likely to get verbal approval before trying anything.”

That is smart of you.
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Once, Club Ante, San Mateo, there were crossed wires when I made the mistake of believing that I could be as forward in the common VIP room with a new girl, as I had been with a regular. My own lack of thinking there.

SJG
Countryman5434
6 years ago
Even a great man like yourself can sometimes be overworked and overwhelmed!
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice and other dancers does any type of SS trickle into your real lives?
stripfighter
6 years ago
Soooo this one admits to being a pathological liar and now guys here kissing her ass :P ;)

Hey glad you had a great time and Drevil sounds like one of the cooler guys here, so cgrats and make sure to invite us to the wedding :P

As far as SS or BS it always comes from insecurity and doesn't apply to dancers but to custies as well. I see it as part of the act and as long as it doesn't interfere with my entertainment, blow right thru it or bust them right there (figuratively of course)
doctorevil
6 years ago
Well, her ass is definitely worthy of being kissed, so why not?
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
Absolutely doctorevil and you even provided an LOL worthy body of evidence to TUSCL. I'd kiss that ass for sure.
nicespice
6 years ago
Lol, thanks guys.

You may be right, stripfighter. I tend to get insecure when I make less than $200.

@sirlap hmm, aside from BSing about my job to some people, I don’t think it has affected me too much.
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice thanks. It makes sense because maintaining consistent SS at work could probably get more elaborate and complex than having a simple BS story about your work in real life. It still amazes me that PLs need as much psychological fantasy, if not more, as physical fantasy enough that it changes how much they spend, but I guess it proves we all want something different.

As an example yesterday I was with my ATF DS and at the same time another PL was with his ATF stripper who is an ITC friend of mine and always talks with me "platonically". With my ATF DS we don't talk a whole lot and our time together is a massage and some spooning to the music. We small talk with others at the bar and sometimes she shares what she's looking at on her phone (funny Instagrams and her own social media stuff). By contrast the other PL and his ATF are sitting side by side and he is always talking and talking to her and I always just see her staring at him and nodding her head. They have very limited physical interactions. Then I'll go get 2-3 dances with my ATF DS and he'll still be sitting there talking to his ATF when we are done. I see them that way for hours. And the stripper has confirmed to me when he is not around that he just wants to talk with her for hours 90% of the time. He compensates her well for the time.

So I guess now my question is, all other things equal (like the money and his looks/personality), would you prefer a low SS high physical interactions with a regular or high SS and conversation and limited physical interactions?
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
If you select the girl you want and approach her yourself and try to lead it to where you want, then SS no longer makes any difference. SS is only a factor when the girl is trying to induce you into going her direction, and that of course is always more money, and really money for just going thru motions.

If you lead it, it will entail more money, but it can also mean getting more personal and involved with the girl, with a likely objective of GFE FS, followed by regular outside contact. In such a situation, SS is meaningless.

SJG

Bob Seger - Mainstreet , the Sunnyvale Hip Hugger was so much like this. So too was Sporty's Bar ( formerly Candid Club, formerly Richard's Lounge, didn't even have a stage back then ) I always listened to this song before I had ever been into any such places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoVCxQtQ…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
What I have always posted, ever since I first joined, is that you want to get your girl off script, and starting right off, with the first words spoken to her. You want her to be herself.

Outside of a narrow script, SS is no longer effective, it is not even possible to maintain.

SJG
nicespice
6 years ago
@Sirlap Pure physical. It would be less emotionally exhausting. But I have to be careful about that. Maybe if I could cultivate an LDK type of regular like PaulDrake or you that would be great. I wouldn’t have to lay on the ego stroking and GFE as hard. No idea how to go about that though.

With my high SS/emotional appeals, I have to deal with constantly churning regulars who start to annoy me. They always start out great until inevitably they start demanding more of my time for less money. I have one regular currently and judging by his text today I’m probably going to have to quit talking to him soon.

But to be fair, I’m probably making some errors. I was, for seven months, at a club where every night it was a new face and very few club regulars. (And those regulars were non-spenders.)

SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice I am a different type of customer to cultivate for sure. But honestly I think I'm fairly rare so it is best for you to sell the SS to the short and medium term type customers. I'm an easy customer once I decide on a favorite and 90% of my decision is based on looks and physical sexuality. And SS doesn't deter me unless she is relentless about it. So if we met in a club you could ladle on SS or be real with me. Doesn't matter.
nicespice
6 years ago
I don’t think I could SS any TUSCLer.

Originally, I had my stage name in the dancer directory but I took that out. I’m way too candid about myself on here.

It’s easy to SS at a stranger who knows nothing about me. But otherwise I couldn’t.

But yeah, I think you just come from a different place. You’re a happily married guy who LDKs as a loophole to cheating, so you don’t require much.

Most customers who become a regular are either single or unhappy in their relationship.
PaulDrake
6 years ago
@nicespice - Interesting your comments about lack of SS. My CF does basically nearly zero. I will say that zero SS is actually not necessarily a good thing. Yeah everything she says about her life is true but that also means no affirmation, no compliments, and not hiding it when she isn't enjoying my company.
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Once a guy learns how to select and approach a girl himself and lead what ensues, SS does not make any difference. And it is very easy for the girl, all she has to do is just let it happen.

SJG
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice Yeah I think my marriage situation changes how I want to interact with strippers more than most regulars. I don't want to complain about my marriage or my problems to a stripper because I don't have any issues. If I'm going to share my issues and open up it will be with my wife.

And my motivation if anything is more from being a naturally horny fucker that yeah doesn't want to "cheat" on her and it's also a bit of mid life crisis. Strip clubs have made me feel like a young stud again and which to me is the basic premise of them to begin with. And so yeah I think I do become an easy customer that really only wants and needs physical tease and only SS with respect to that is all that will "work" for me. Also I want to make a stripper feel beautiful and sexy the entire time as well. I want a mutually fun time together for the hour or so we have together and I think this is why I'm so easy to my faves. I think I could go the entire visit without talking with any of them at all and still have a good time.

And ultimately what happens with me over the long haul with my faves is that some of them end up opening up more to me than I do them. Like I won't share pics of my personal life but some will go though their social media with me. And it's not that they want to be my GF in doing it, it's only because they trust me not to take any of it the wrong way. And then the other types of faves I have will be like me and just talk minimally about SOs and personal issues.
SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
^ LOL just to add, I think personal talk is a major boner killer. Please just tease me thank you very much.
larryfisherman
6 years ago
Nicespice is my new favorite TUSCL dancer, awesome insight.
nicespice
6 years ago
@PaulDrake Ah, I also remember that you said her shift averages was also on the low side. Like between 200-300 right?

From what I’ve heard, the Dallas area has better money making potential than the cities I work at. But I’m not going to criticize her hustle. Everyone works at the comfort level they like best, and maybe she is just comfortable with her earnings.

@Sirlap Maybe it’s the weed making them forget about the teasing :p

SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
@nicespice it's my massages. ;)
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