SA chicks are starying to piss me off...maybe i need a brake lmfao

Maybe I'm not a good fit

Strip clubs work better...thank god we still have them

Maybe it’s part of the learning process? You get annoyed at the tactics of the SA girls and their desire for money - and then you take some time off - and then jump back and have a great time?

yes indeed. whatever clubs that haven't closed and are still around thank the lord-w/o them... well let's just say that i'd rather not dive right towards what would be leftover.
the majority of these SA girls, especially here northeast USA, are for the most part - a major pain in the ass. at least it's an option that's still available i guess.
i wonder how the girls are from that site in other regions.

SA seems to have turned into two worlds colliding.

You need backup? I need some more dumpsites. Business is picking up

You need backup? I need some more dumpsites. Business is picking up

I can dump a load in their trailer

A few of us have been commenting for some time now that it all depends on how you are using the site.

Regardless of how many escorts or dancers are on the site if you are trying to hook up on the cheap for a one time meeting chances are you are going to run into a higher level of failure.

Also if you are in NYC I've found you run into a fair amount of Gold diggers. ( GPS)

I've had great luck in Philadelphia, DC, Pittsburgh, Columbus and Cleveland.

I hit the jackpot in Vegas although at first I ran into some culture differences.

juicebox69, you should hook up with the girl that posts as MackTruck. She's a sexy 19-year old Ukrainian that shares your sense of humor. It'll be brilliant! ;)

I don't do SA (too young for it plus the night club always works) but it sounds to me like they're trying to do less and still earn a lot. Sounds like most successful people. Work smarter, not harder. If you can get away with making a lot with minimum physical labor, like a high up management or investors do, why not? Though it seems these ladies don't get the memo that this approach doesn't work in the sex world. Or perhaps it does hint hint *webcam*.

Though deception and thievery just isn't cool and they're probably concieted bitches who are given enough egos boosting by people not you that they think it'll work on you. Sorry, might just be the aftermath of simping men gone too far.

i was going to get on the SA train, but my brain couldnt understand the logic of some of the girls while browsing through their profiles. SA girls want money, but then they judge the fuck out of people. Some criteria they use -> "no married men, if you cant respect your wife how are you going to respect me?" my answer, do you think my wife would be married to me if i didnt respect her or treat her well, do they not understand how easy a women can divorce and clean you out?

Also where's their morals, self respect when they ask for cash? They feel no shame when asking for cash, but then they shame you for expecting sex. They expect money for existing, however, their own parents, family members, SO don't help them with money.

i just go on their and look at their pictures, this site is for men that are extremly patient.

^^^Salt

Strippers judge their own customers just as harsh. Don't know how many times a stripper will tell me that any man who walks through that door is a perv, which makes it easier for them to try and fleece them.

Women in general I find are very judgemental which is funny because they are the gender that most fears being judged.

The level of hypocrisy is almost laughable.

Salty said “this site is for men who are extremely patient”

That statement is a perfect summary of SA.

I’ve stayed away from SA. I setup an account - and was annoyed at the monthly cost just to use the site.

I take the judgemental nature of dancers in the same way I see judgements made on stripper web - with a grain of salt.

Just look at one of our recent posters - and her level of entitlement and her judgements. She’s full of herself - and she’s already determined that will only have sex in the missionary position (even though she’s still a virgin). However, when pressed - she will attempt to restate her original hypothesis in a more convoluted manner.

A stripper viewing every customer as a pervert is basically being honest. Unless the guys who used to read Playboy for the articles are now going to strip clubs for intellectual stimulation?

If a SA girl questions the guys on the site, it seems foolish. Those guys are paying to be members, and that shows they are committed to hooking up (and paying for other things).

Some girls offer the holier than thou front online - so they aren’t viewed as whores. But in person - things can be very different. It can also be a push to see if the men can handle her.

I’m just happy to learn about this shit here - before I step over to SA. Thanks for the insights!

It can take weeks or longer to find someone really good. I've had four that I consider really outstanding over a period of almost three years.

I've made this point several times: in a metro area with 100,000 college students within driving distance, approximately 8,000 of them will be online. If you filter that pool down to the top 3%, there are still 240 girls reachable for a monthly price of about $90. Compare that to the cost of spending $300 for a single night at a strip club, finding 5 college girls dancing that night, of which 2 might be interested in some kind of arrangement. There's no comparison. Do you want one night pump-and-dump sex? Then don't go on SA.

I had dinner with an amazing SA girl on Monday night and we have plans for my house next week. She just turned 21, 5'6", blonde, slender and athletic. She was wearing a tight black dress, zero body fat and hot. Beautiful muscle-tone and facets in her uncovered shoulders. She does ballet professionally and getting a degree in a STEM field. Finalist in dance squad for one of our pro-sports teams. Her mother is an MD -- second time that's happened with an SB.

We get threads like this one all the time on TUSCL by guys using the site like Backpage. There are now 21,000 contributors over on the Reddit's Sugar Lifestyle forum at it's a far better place to get a feeling for what's going on.

Not all experiences on SA are positive. Another recent date:

Blonde, also early 20s, and better looking than most strippers. She was moderately drunk at a nice restaurant, and kept ordering drinks. Eventual got drunk enough to annoy the waitress at a nice restaurant. I was drinking diet coke. Conversation revolved around how she wanted to save up to have her breasts augmented, even though she had nice B-cups. Incredibly boring. She wanted to hook up that night -- but just drove her home at that was it. I've never yet slept with any of these girls on the first night.

Yup, you’re doing it wrong, bottom line.

I’ve had some great experiences on there and my share of duds. I’m tired of the no-shows, that pisses me off the most.

Had a lovely dinner last night with who I hope will be my newest regular SB. She’s gorgeous, pretty smart, more mature than her age (21), and isn’t too greedy. Hoping to see her again tomorrow night where I can see more of her, if you get my meaning.

I had decent experiences with SA, but I just do way better with strippers, for one thing I like my women to be more grown up, most of the decent partners on SA that looked good to me were students or pros, and even though you could argue that many strippers are pros, the ones that I see are generally not.
As far as my moneys worth I enjoy hanging out in certain clubs, so I’ll be spending that money anyway.

I find it annoying at times for other reasons. What I hate the most is the endless series of texts. They don't take the hint: our business is concluded. If I want to see them again, I would let them know. And if I wanted a girlfriend I wouldn't be on SA... I would be on OkCupid getting ignored just like all the other losers. Anyway, I try to be nice to them and write back but it's a chore. I haven't ghosted anyone.

I am however taking the advice of several people here and I've renewed my subscription with the goal of just finding one "special" SB this time, rather than an endless series of whores. We'll see.

Also I've noticed that the site has become more strict lately. For example, you can't search for keywords anymore. And several SBs with real potential were flagged and deleted before I could even write back to them.

They’ve got super-strict with even using terms like PPM for some reason. Anything they connotate with prostitution.

Which I find dumb. To me, the duration or frequency of allowance shouldn’t matter. Whether it’s for a meet, day, week, month, how often she is compensated isn’t an issue.

But whatever.

Pretty sure I posted this before but my opinion:

When I was using Tumblr and following a lot of sugar baby stuff (I had considered pursuing it and then decided not to), most would trash Seeking Arrangement for the cheap clientele and also the naive girls who would agree to terrible allowance rates.

The serious and higher quality sugar babies freestyle. I’m sure there’s attractive sugar baby potential there but because they are more amateur they’re more likely to “not get it” Sometimes it works out to cheaper rates. Other times, headaches like several of you mentioned.

Just like you can get clothes just as nice from Goodwill as Neiman Marcus, you can with using SA for sugar babies. Just need to spend more time shopping.

And yeah, gotta love FOSTA for forcing the PPM behavior away.

Like anything else once word gets out something is good everyone flocks there.

Lyrics to a song: They called it paradise, I don't know why
You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye

And SA is no different.

Five years ago it was damn easy to find someone now it does take a bit to grab their attention and the women who are the cream typically ask for the moon and the stars.

But.......there are ways around it and the advantage is if you are a decent guy, and you can get them to meet you chances are you are going to stand out.

Its not what you say but how you say it that counts.......and the disclaimer I will put on it is the exception for me has been NYC where many of the girls want money up front ( but that is a deal killer for me) and I pass.

As part of my new effort to be selective, I really just wish the site would let you search by cup size. If I'm going to choose just one, I won't accept anything less than a D cup. Searching by body type is misleading. Everyone knows that "curvy" means fat and "slim" means flat-chested.

BHF--if the link I sent you worked she considered herself slim........and I would never classify her as flat-chested ....:--)

@Warrenboy75,

Yeah you're right, but that's not the norm. I guess she's a keeper. In my experience, most girls who describe themselves as slim are B-cups or C-cups at best.

"For example, you can't search for keywords anymore."

if you use the web site, do a search like normal. then go to the URL field, scroll to the end of the URL (it will be long if you have lots of specific choices), then add

&q=yoursearchword

at the end

@joc13,

That's a neat little trick, thanks. I take it this works for websites in general, not just SA, right?

I agree with everything said about SA. Met three hot unicorns over the past year. Of course you have to go through a lot of frustration to get there. I posted a sugar daddy profile on Tinder. Have met three hot college students aged 18, 21 and 22. I’m 3x their age and having a great time.

This is a real temptation. I just signed up again the other day and I've already got a bunch of SA hookers throwing it at me. I know some of them must be pros, but I might have to give in at some point. Yes, I know it's not the way the site is supposed to be used. I really do want to hold out, but it's like being on a diet in a candy factory.

@Timbo-

There's been a lot of discussion about using Tinder for sugaring, but I've never had the guts to try it. How does it work for you? Are there certain "code" words to convey that it's an arrangement and not vanilla dating? Are the code words used by the men, by the women, or by both?