My fav pole dancer
https://www.instagram.com/iridescentavoc…
If you guys saw her on stage (and she was dressed more stripperlike), how interested would you be in a lap dance?
If you guys saw her on stage (and she was dressed more stripperlike), how interested would you be in a lap dance?
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I’m sure she can work it on stage too. Some dancers have amazing stage presence - and that can make them look even more desirable during a stage set.
Based on what I saw there, I’d be very interested in at least finding out if she’s interesting to talk to.
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I find calf-tattoos hideous
@Zoey Yessss, that's where I found her first. xD
I'm happy with the positive responses here. Even if it's only moderate, I've wondered whether trying to improve my stage was even worth my time or if it was just a waste of energy that belongs in a pole class.
Poledancing ability wouldn't influence me one way or the other.
I do not find her attractive at all, but appreciate the pole work.
I once met a dancer with a 6-pack and she claimed she got that by only dancing on the pole (similar to this girl) at the club. Said she doesn't work out at home and once she mastered the pole doing 4-5 sets a night while working was her daily workout.
Having said that, if a girl has absolutely zero rhythm and looks awkward on stage, then she really should take one or two dance lessons - she'll look more dignified that way. But being sensual matters much more to me. And physical attraction matters even more. This particular girl is just too plain-Jane for my taste. Plus not enough tits and ass.
However I will tip a little extra at the stage for her efforts.
"Dancing" is just a euphemism anyway. A strip club is just a brothel in disguise in a country where it's mostly illegal to openly pay for sex."
I'm skeptical on that. I looked back up an article I read back cause it's really insightful. Granted this is in Australia and not America, but I think the cultures are similar enough that the same results would be likely if it was all legalized.
Here's a link but I'm also posting a quote if you don't wanna read the whole thing.
http://titsandsass.com/an-extras-girl-in…
"It seemed even more ridiculous that doing extras could be considered “undercutting” or creating an “unfair playing ground” given that a few hundred meters down the road was a well-known legal brothel. If customers walked in there, they could pay the same amount for full service in a comfortable bed that they would for a 15 minute dance in our strip club with a quick, no-frills hand job in a dingy room with a semi-functioning CD player and a chair held together with duct tape."
https://www.instagram.com/maddiesparkled…
Oh sure, there will always be guys who prefer the strip club-experience to the hooker-experience. I'm one of them. At a strip club, you can relax, have a drink, watch the show, take your time, talk to the girls, etc. Just like an old-school brothel. But you can't really do this with an escort: she has appointments scheduled, you're on the clock, and she needs you to finish quickly so that she can squeeze in a few more guys.
I'm not thrilled with escorts/hookers myself. I hate the feeling of scheduling an appointment and rushing through what should be a pleasant experience. I would take a club over an escort, all things considered, even though clubs appear to be a poor value at first glance. And even in places where prostitution is legal, such as northern Nevada and Australia, there are still *some* strip clubs remaining for guys like me. But strip clubs must be much less common in these places than they are elsewhere (in places where prostitution remains illegal). Because a sizeable chunk of the monger population just wants to cum and go. Am I wrong about this?
I don’t think you’re precisely “wrong.” If by “monger population” you meant that segment of strip club customers who know about and actively seek out sex, I think you’re probably more right than wrong. However, I also don’t think that such mongers are anywhere near the majority of strip club customers in general. At least not in my experience.
I’m mostly in the same boat as you. Most of the time, I’m after a good time. The sex, whatever form that takes, is the end game, not the sole reason for going. I like all the rest of strip club experience as well.
In this case I'm using the term 'monger' to refer to anyone who pays for sex, whether we're talking about the customers of escorts, street walkers, strippers, massage parlors, SA girls, dominatrices, etc. Some guys prefer to hang out and make friends - they'll naturally gravitate towards strip clubs. But just because there's some chit-chat involved doesn't mean they're not still selling sex, which was my original point. But yes, I agree that the sex is not the sole reason for me either
I agree, I don’t think most customers are mongers. To be fair I think most focused mongers in my area go to different clubs than mine.
Maddie Sparkle definitely is more athletic and technically skilled. And I think most posters on here appreciate her body type more too. I still prefer Ididescent’s style as a dancer because it’s more slow and sensual and more useful for dancers who are trying to improve their pole work for stage.
But that’s cause Maddie, while also very controlled and sexy, does fall prey to some of the pole community’s love of weird moves like doing “the worm”
(Also slighty off topic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VZxQu-y3A7… hehe)
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It all depends on the girl and sometimes it depends on what you negotiate in advance. Typically, they charge by the hour AND by the act. In other words, if you finish before the hour is up, then the session is over. But if the hour ends first and you still haven't finished yet, she may ask for more money if you want to continue. Of course there are a lot of factors. Some girls allow what they call "multiple cups." Others will give you an annoyed look if you imply that you want to keep going after the first "cup." Still others will sell an hour but try to get away with only giving 20 minutes. It all depends.
But most of them will at least verbally encourage you to cum as quickly as possible, because they typically make more money by taking on more short-stay clients. And they can only take on more clients if you finish and leave. Four clients each paying $150 for 15 minutes each is preferable to one guy paying $300 for a full hour.
Also, the nature of escorting involves setting appointments, and they may be in a rush to get prepared for the next guy. And street walkers may be in a rush because of one of two reasons: A) pressure from a pimp or B) the need to score some drugs before all the dealers pack it in for the night.
You can see how this would be slightly different from a stripper. Strippers are getting paid by the dance. The incentive is to sell as many dances to each customer as possible. It's easier to sell 10 dances to one customer than it is to sell one dance each to 10 customers. It's a bird in the hand vs two in a bush. That's why I'm always amazed when I hear about a stripper rushing a customer to cum. It happens, but it doesn't make much sense to me. The job of a stripper involves figuring out which guys want to stretch out the experience and which guys simply want to get their rocks off quickly, and then behave accordingly.
It all depends on the girl and sometimes it depends on what you negotiate in advance. Typically, they charge by the hour AND by the act. In other words, if you finish before the hour is up, then the session is over. But if the hour ends first and you still haven't finished yet, she may ask for more money if you want to continue. Of course there are a lot of factors. Some girls allow what they call "multiple cups." Others will give you an annoyed look if you imply that you want to keep going after the first "cup." Still others will sell an hour but try to get away with only giving 20 minutes. It all depends.
But most of them will at least verbally encourage you to cum as quickly as possible, because they typically make more money by taking on more short-stay clients. And they can only take on more clients if you finish and leave. Four clients each paying $150 for 15 minutes each is preferable to one guy paying $300 for a full hour.
Also, the nature of escorting involves setting appointments, and they may be in a rush to get prepared for the next guy. And street walkers may be in a rush because of one of two reasons: A) pressure from a pimp or B) the need to score some drugs before all the dealers pack it in for the night.
You can see how this would be slightly different from a stripper. Strippers are getting paid by the dance.
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You can see how this would be slightly different from a stripper. Strippers are getting paid by the dance. The incentive is to sell as many dances to each customer as possible. It's easier to sell 10 dances to one customer than it is to sell one dance each to 10 customers. It's a bird in the hand vs two in a behave accordingly.
@BurlingtonHo thanks for the insight. Most of what I know about escorts are writings and nothing much else. Would you say the “rushed factor” changes when they charge at a higher price point?
Love that girl's body, and her polework is super super sexy. Don't like her face, and the double Monroes are extra gross. Ignoring that, though, my general impression of strippers whose polework is THAT good, is that they're expecting a premium for dances because of their polework -- and their dances aren't necessarily particularly good, by tuscl terms (they might be amazing in terms of art). Anyway, while I love polework that's reached that level of artistry, it's pretty ancillary to the experience I'm going for in a strip club; whether I want to get dances from her or not, if she tries to up-charge right away, I'm gone, if her dances aren't relatively touchy, I'm gone.
-->"But most of them will at least verbally encourage you to cum as quickly as possible, because they typically make more money by taking on more short-stay clients. And they can only take on more clients if you finish and leave. Four clients each paying $150 for 15 minutes each is preferable to one guy paying $300 for a full hour."
I respect BHo's pursuit of what he wants, so not busting balls, but based on previous discussions (and how he used SA, etc), it feels like he is describing what most of us think of as the low-range, high-volume part of the market. At least in this area, no mid-range or up escort even has a 15-minute offering, the vast majority don't have a 30-minute, and those that do have a 30-minute really up-charge on it for obvious reasons. The girls are basically actively-discouraging less than an hour, and extract a big premium to make it worth their while for guys who insist on it.