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I never have. It sounds very , uhh, stimulating. Yesterday, my ATF pulled all the blinds down in my house and spent the whole day topless. She was totally at ease but I kept finding myself staring at her tits, studying the nipples, looking at the aureoles, and I know them like the back of my hand. A whole lot of totally nude women sounds great.

Are you talking about Bare Elegance in LA?

^^ yeah bare elegance has a rule that you have to be nude all the time or pay extra. Something like that.

Sounds like a rule that all clubs should adopt.

The mentioned Bare Elegance is the only one I've heard of like that

It was bare e. The downside is that the place is insanely expensive. So it was mostly just great eye candy.

I wish we had a place like that here in Phoenix. Some girls at Bourbon, maybe 3 walk around topless. Haven't seen any yet at hi Liter. This club sounds like a place I need to visit soon!

interesting thread. will have to keep BE in mine if I'm every stranded at lax

For those prices I'll stick with follies.

i’ve been to bare elegance a dozen times at least. love that about that club. i wish it was much closer to me. it’s almost two hours away from my cali casa. the naked girls are what a nude club should encourage. and if i’m gonna drive two hours i tend to drive to tijuana.

I was at Bare Elegance about a week ago and noticed the same thing. Also noticed their Russian imports are smokin', smokin' hot.

The great thing about a club like that is there is no guess work on what a girl's body looks like before you go get a dance. And you can often feel some of the goods too before you make a decision? Eliminates a lot of the bait and switch hustle a less attractive girl might try.

JS, you're right. I was sitting in the kino (cinema) in Oase one afternoon watching porn and having a beer (as you do) when this nude spinner approached me, blonde, about 20 yrs old, she didn't say a word as she put her things on the seat next to me, then the brazen young lady just went down on her knees in front of me, moved forward and parted my legs and undid my robe. Cheeky bitch just started blowing me there and then, again not saying a word.

man. the nerve. ;)

gawker, are you back together with your ATF? Or is this a new ATF?

If the former, brilliant for us since you'll have a new collection of crazy stories but potentially non-brilliant for you. My advice is to adopt a dachshund bud and just have the strippers over time to time.

Wiener dogs don't bring the drugged-out craziness, give unconditional love back, and girls love them.

I'm kidding of course regarding the dachshund bud. Only get a dog if you want one and choose an appropriate breed for your life if you do. But keeping the strippers at arms length is probably a good idea. By that I'm just saying hot sex = yes but drugged-out weirdness and involvement with stripper boyfriends = no.

Just so free advice. An you know what free advice is worth! ;)

JohnSmith69, sounds like a brilliant place! But dressing for the stage show seems silly. The girls should just get onstage and show themselves off.

Yes, you're describing Bare Elegance well. And just my $.02 - although there's a perceived sticker shock initially, it's really not such a bad deal.

• A totally stunning slender Euro-babe will sit in your lap totally nude and often let your hands wander while she strokes the little guy OTC. I most recently had an Estonian babe let my thumb rest on her butthole while I lightly brushed her kitty - all for the price of a diet coke and conversation. Of course, I had to get a VIP from her due to her stellar marketing skills.
• The private LDs during day can be had for 2-for-$41 and at night 2-for-$51, simply by asking. I've never been turned down, and they're decent dances with groping everywhere except the pussy, and even there, you can get nice occasional touches, depending on the girl.
• The VIPs again aren't bad for the quality of girl. I've arranged a couple at ~$200 for some of the best stateside VIPs I've experienced. I've had cheaper at Bliss and Paradise, but for the quality of girl at BE, it's worth it.

Now just hold on a minute. John

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Now just hold on a minute, John. You think it's too expensive?! Holy shit.

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they’re the only club I’ve ever known of in LA that uses an agency and takes foreign girls so I don’t doubt it’s full of smoking hot euro chicks, and they’re usually very hard workers

Rod is right about the almost always available two for ones, and that is the way to go. But even then it’s $25 per song, and the bar girl that you pay is going to try and make you feel like shit for not tipping. It also makes me feel like a cheap little shit for always demand 2-4-1s, and I do think the mileage sometimes suffers when you demand he discount.

And it’s hard to get a 4 for 2. So if you want to go past two songs most girls in my experience will say no and demand full price.

IME places that charge an arm-and-a-leg for dances often the club keeps a big chunk - I wonder what the split is at BE?

Buying dances is a chump's game, Front Room Makeout Session! Then when it is time for your own pants to come down you invite her to the back room.

Here at our local nude clubs they have all been bullied into signing a set of rules which prohibit offstage nudity. It sucks.

So in TJ's HK Bar's Miami VIP room, can it be like that, girls always nude, just drop to their knees and start blowing you without saying a word? More fluid, and more public is better. You can be alone with her later on.

SJG

Even though sometimes Tijuana Tim wins:

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Normally I don’t like rules but a rule that requires the strippers to always be nude sounds good to me.

JohnSmith69 - I agree w/you, too, that some of the girls aren't really into the 2-for-1 LDs. I've experienced about a 50/50 split, with some correlation between hotness level and lack of enthusiasm for LDs. That's true for all clubs - the hotter the girl, the less she has to do to keep the $ flowing. I've never gone beyond two dances anyway, but can see how girls would lose even what little enthusiasm they might've had if doing so.

But they're still good dances with a caliber of girl I seldom see in clubs. And I figure BE is like most clubs - even Paradise and HK for that matter - where the girls don't give away all the goods during an LD, so they can entice PLs to the VIPs. Makes sense and I get it. I'm just glad to have a smokin' hot naked chick in my lap, in any case. And if I'm feeling it with her, make that VIP trip.

I don't currently visit any clubs that have 2 for 1 dances. In the past the Platinum Plus clubs had them and a lot of dancers disappeared into the dressing room until it was passed.

But I learned very quickly that the 2 for 1 price could be had almost any time by simply telling the dancer to come back when they announced a 2 for 1. Further going to the communal lap dance room during an announced 2 for 1 led to less privacy and lower mileage. Much better to go a dancer ready to give you a 2 for 1 when your are ready.

sjguy. you ask “So in TJ's HK Bar's Miami VIP room, can it be like that, girls always nude, just drop to their knees and start blowing you without saying a word?” in short... no. i’m not sayin it cannot happen at hk. but if it does it would be rare in the open. that nice behavior is usually kept out of sight. even in mexico. and definitely not regular behavior (unfortunately) at belax.

belax?

So things are not done like that anywhere in the HK bar, even VIP rooms, or anywhere else in TJ as far as you know.

How about more discrete front room FS in the HK bar's VIP areas?

Sounds like the Miami Room is their newest VIP area. I assume you really aren't supposed to bring girls in there, but that there will always be an adequate supply of girls already there.

It must offer some advantage over the area around the main stage.

Thanks, SJG

as far as i know exclusive miami has been around at least as long as hong kong bar. and a part of it for a looooong time. like 27 years now. ALL hk girls are welcome anytime.

and belax means Bare Elegance Los Angeles Xtra terrestrial spaceport.

sjguy. cum down to socal. it’s time for my old ass to visit belax again. let’s visit together and... (as i posted on another comment thread...) sjguy. take a break from your political wars and visit tijuana zona norte. one day whirlwind tour. i will be your guide ( for what that’s worth. ) hk. adelitas. playboy. las chavelas. tropical bar. chicago bar. la gloria. valentinas. hacienda. la carretta. gold bar. karlas. d+g. street girls. walkers. la maliquera. taco carts. cascadas. hotel coahuila. monte carlo. azul. and sooooo much more. drive down here to san ysidro. fly. bus. ride your huffy. walk. you will be absolutely blown away with the liberty. but bring yer money. i ain’t treating you.

No, can't do that. Wars don't have timeouts. I am embedded 24-7. I live on Spaceship Earth, just like you do. But that does not mean that I am a passenger. My role is closer to that of the CIA.

And my interest in out of town and over the border strip clubs is quite a bit different from what you have described.

SJG

belax = Bare Elegance, and this is where the fully nude off stage girls where.

But the fully nude and dropping do to administer a BJ, was at a German FKK.

SJG

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i can’t get that tune outta my head...

Membership club, combining the best elements of strip clubs, amps, and swinger's clubs. And exempted from all laws about retail establishments.

SJG