My atf/sugar baby

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max_starr
Cleveland, Ohio
The ex is back out of jail. Since I dont like him, he's a violent parasite... I won't deal with her while she's with him. Thus I will have much more money in my pockets. But I'll be a little sad. I truly need to find some constructive positive things to do.

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Warrior15
7 years ago
Tijuana is a long ways away. I hear Detroit is nice this time of the year .
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max_starr
7 years ago
Lol.... geez I'm not that hard up
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
A lowlife BF will usually bring additional drama to a dancer's life which can likely negatively-affect one's "relationship" w/ her
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max_starr
7 years ago
Well she's cut off
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flagooner
7 years ago
^ "A lowlife BF will usually bring additional drama to a dancer's life which can likely negatively-affect one's "relationship" w/ her"

The wisdom is mind-blowing.
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
^ I know - I often amaze myself
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flagooner
7 years ago
;-)
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Jascoi
7 years ago
time to PARTY!
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max_starr
7 years ago
Yeah maybe I'll hit up the blond girl she tried to bring home with us for a 3 way...we'll see..If they're both at work though that could be a problem.
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Subraman
7 years ago
Papi's talent is completely wasted here. He should be head writer at a fortune cookie factory by now, not casting his pearls before you swine
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
:)
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Subraman
7 years ago
Speaking seriously, if I went to a Chinese restaurant and "A lowlife BF will usually bring additional drama to a dancer's life which can likely negatively-affect one's "relationship" w/ her" was in my fortune cookie, I'd fucking well go back to that Chinese restaurant
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flagooner
7 years ago
LOL
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Call.Me.Ishmael
7 years ago
I genuinely loled at (with) Subraman.
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Warrenboy75
7 years ago
"A lowlife BF will usually bring additional drama to a dancer's life which can likely negatively-affect one's "relationship" w/ her"

...but only if she is a water sign with Venus rising.........and other such stripper wisdom tips that are offered when they try to explain their bad decisions to you.
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4got2wipe
7 years ago
max_starr, do you have any specific stories about the ex-con ex? gawker has the best crazy stories followed by rickdugan. No disrespect, but a generic "I don't like the guy because he's a violent parasite" is kind of boring. Perfectly sane and reasonable, so I tip my had to you for having the brains to disengage. Ace move!

But still, we love the crazy stories!

Also, a Papi_Chulo gets a "brilliant!" for his fortune cookie!
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4got2wipe
7 years ago
"Tip my hat"
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max_starr
7 years ago
I have some crazy stories that I've actually shared with Gawker...In time, I may tell some here...Mostly about my atf and her friends though...The loser bf....
1) I've met him in person when he was semi-comotose from taking drugs and my atf says, boys don't fight now...huh? Does she want me to beat his ass, if so I'd prefer he was conscious for it.
2) He calls her his "wife" yet he hasn't proposed to her, nor given her a ring, nor does he have a job...
3) According to her, he went to prison for attempted murder. She said "He is pathetic because he tried to shoot the guy while riding his bicycle and missed"
4) He came up with a plan not too long ago to buy and ounce of cocaine and make crack and sell it...This generated absolutely no revenue as he, atf, and friends immediately smoked it up within hours.

I will have more stories to come....in time...:)
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shailynn
7 years ago
Ha juice once bought a commercial smoker to make bbq ribs on the side of the road and sell them. That didn’t turn out so well as you could imagine... just like the boyfriend and the ounce of coke.
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max_starr
7 years ago
Amazingly so far....I've been talking with the two of them her and him and both are being very nice to me...He said he's ok with me being her friend and that he isn't involved with her any more.....How bizarre things are...I don't know what to believe...time will tell.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
One such low life BF was filling up my answering machine with threats, for weeks and weeks.

Thing is, the woman is someone I only briefly met f2f just once. Other than that it had been just some phone communications with his GF.

SJG
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max_starr
7 years ago
What has actually been worse is her calling and begging for money and having to say no. The last time I just talked to her she said that's okay I'll just have my roommate have sex with someone so I can get money. She's pimping out her roommate!
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
^^^ So we have a looser BF, and a looser ATF's roommate, and a looser ATF. Does the list include any more?

Don't know what to say, except that you, like they, are presumably over age 18. So you can decide who you want to be involved with.

I don't really mean to make moral judgments about any of these people. Our political, economic, and moral system creates an underclass.

Still, who you associate with and what you do, is up to you.

In the case I spoke of I had met and talked with the woman once, that was all. I never met the shit BF, and I never intend to.

SJG
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max_starr
7 years ago
Hey well least I can say no. I think she was holding out and trying to stay clean when i first started seeing her to get me to fall for her. Now she's back into full-blown addiction and just out of control. I'm hip to to the game now.
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max_starr
7 years ago
Hey well least I can say no. I think she was holding out and trying to stay clean when i first started seeing her to get me to fall for her. Now she's back into full-blown addiction and just out of control. I'm hip to to the game now.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Well, women have emotional needs and connections. Often they want to maintain these, even if the guys are never employed, convicts, pimps, or dealers.

Most people have problematic associations of one sort or another.

Still, you are at least 18yo, so you can decide what you want to do and who you want to do it with.

Your posts of course remind me of gawker.

SJG
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Subraman
7 years ago
-->"Amazingly so far....I've been talking with the two of them her and him and both are being very nice to me...He said he's ok with me being her friend and that he isn't involved with her any more.....How bizarre things are...I don't know what to believe...time will tell."

Did gawker introduce you two? Because I'm getting deja vu :)
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
^^^^ gawker introduce them, brilliant!

Really max, you've got to decide who you want to be involved with, and whether or not you want to be around people who are 'ok' with your being a girl's friend.

SJG
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jackslash
7 years ago
Addict stripper and addict boyfriend and PL. What could go wrong?
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
^^^^ But is that the extent of the circle, or is that another person who should be included.

SJG
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max_starr
7 years ago
Dont forget the hot escort housemate...Now that I think about it i think my friend may have gps. The other day she was telling me people see me and just fall in love they can't help. I tried to tell her that isn't going to work forever. Live and learn I guess.
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max_starr
7 years ago
Sorry I can't top gawker's last story which he told me in a private message that I won't repeat. I'll leave that up to him it's a pretty wild story though.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
You find a girl who works at a UHM strip club and sees guys outside, but also manages her own affairs well, you will have a good deal!

SJG
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DeclineToState
7 years ago
^Lay the story on us, gawker. We're in need of entertainment. Please.
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Jascoi
7 years ago
(waiting with bated breath...)
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Area I used to live, girl turning tricks in her van, girl paying the rent by turning tricks when hubby is in jail, another riding around on her bike turning tricks, guys who live as low level drug dealers and with the electricity turned off.

With most of these people though there are specific reasons I would not want any personal involvement with them. Sex and money are not the problem, its other aspects of these people lifestyles.

SJG
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max_starr
7 years ago
Well, I took her and her roommate out for lunch and to the beach, leaving the ex at home...my friend offered to blow me on the beach...now this was some funny shit....I had her roommate watching for cops while the other is giving me head in broad daylight...It has been sunny and warm here..i guess this is the season for outdoor play. She said she likes nature, so we'll have to go on some trails and have sex though I can't forget to bring the mosquito repellent...later that night just her and I go out to eat, have drinks, and fuck....totally satisfying....Ex says he has no problem with me...I hope she doesn't run home and tell him all the details..I still don't trust him.
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