Clubs scanning ID and facebook
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Tuesday, April 10, 2018 5:48 AM
Weird that some tuscl users are so annoyed by ID scanning clubs but are OK w FB data mining.
Facebook scammers, scrapers and data miners aren’t trying to steal your identity. They are profiling you so they can send you manipulating info/messages. That is the end game, to get you to do something you wouldn’t normally do. And before you think or say “I would never be moved”, think again. It has been proven to work EVERY time.
That is why manipulators are spending Billions on analytic and AI tools of every kind. Facebook alone gets $84 in ad revenue for every man woman and child in America.
Using false profiles does not circumvent this intrusion at all, since the profile was still created by you and is used by you, then used against you. It is still your pattern and that pattern is what they mine and monetize.
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I am on Facebook, but in a very minimalist way. You could argue that being on Facebook in any mode is unwise. But everyone has their own level of risk tolerance.
Side note... arguing the level of risk exposure on social media amongst a group of guys who are remarkably cavalier about wearing condoms when having sex with strippers is an exercise in irony and double standards.
Anywho, what I've pointed out to anyone outraged by the Facebook data mining scandal is that Facebook isn't using a single bit of data that wasn't at first happily volunteered by the user.
If you place the same degree of trust in a for-profit corporation that provides a massive amount of functionality and connectivity for "free", then you've brought these problems on yourself.
And you're a nitwit.
I'd say that's a complete strawman -- no one here is ok with FB data mining, as far as I can tell, in fact we've talked about it. They are, however, different threats and so are handled and discussed in different ways. Which makes the chastising tone a little silly.
ID scanning: the lowest-quality industry I do business with, now has all of my ID's information about me -- the real me, my name, birthday, address, etc. You'll excuse me if I don't believe their crack team of cybersecurity experts exactly has the information secured. For people with a family to lose, that is already an obvious risk, and a big one. Exactly the kind of people who I worry about things like ID theft, now have a lot of the information needed to pull it off. Anyway, the risks are self-evident to anyone who is not trying to minimize them in order to make a point on the internet.
Facebook: I've been discussing the risks here for years, and not remotely a surprise to me that the news just gets worse and worse as far as how intrusive they are. I do not use the Facebook app, and my facebook account is completely fake. Yes, Facebook and its erstwhile "partners" know that Subraman has only stripper friends, and they can send targeted advertising to my Facebook page or my fake email. These aren't huge security concerns for me. It IS a security concern that even through browser-based access, they could somehow map my fake account to the real me, even though the real me doesn't have a facebook account; a risk to be hugely concerned about. Possibly of more concern, to turn your misguided lecture around at you, is that companies like google seem to have way more information about me than facebook, and who knows what they do with it. Many of us here, at least have been super careful about what facebook knows about us, but I doubt we've been as anonymous with google. I feel there's a strong need for European style privacy protections
In other words, I get where you were going here, but politely I think this a stupid post that completely misses the mark.
I know Facebook mines my data. I know it’s used elsewhere, and I’m not 100% ok with that. However, there is a huge difference between a multi billion dollar company - and Vinnie Slick Fingers (who scans ids at the Pink Poontang Club).
When I go to strip clubs, I prefer the seedier clubs. I think classy strip clubs are somewhat of an oxymoron. When I am in a club, I’m assuming the dancer is using a stage name - which is s fake name. I’m pretty sure Vinnie Slick Fingers - isn’t from a long line of fellow Slick Fingers family members. So - why do I have to give my legit info to this club?
It’s nice to be recognized at a neighborhood bar - like Cheers. But, not so much in a seedy strip joint.
By using FB I think the user considers the benefit to be more than what they perceive the risk to be.
It is quite reasonable for that same person to refuse to give a SC their ID to scan because the benefit is different as is the perceived risk. Also there are closer substitutes available to the clubber.
I’m basically giving someone at a strip club enough information to open a fraudulent credit card in my name (when I allow my license to be
scanned).
Yeah. I refuse to bring my credit card into a strip club.
It really doesn't matter to me if Facebook or strip clubs have my identification credentials. My information is already out there and even if it isn't, it's probably better if I act as if malicious third parties have and want to use my information for their personal gain.
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