Honestly, if she's hot and she looks clean, I would have a hard time saying no. This is not very rational, but somehow I'm just not afraid of bareback with a stripper or a civilian. It's very different with an escort. (And even then, I've had moments of weakness.) So probably yes.
It's really not a good idea to mention dancer names on here or in reviews but since you did, I do know who she is and turned her down for dances today. Can't stand the lousy fake tit job or her personality. I was sitting with Bubba and there were 4 of the Griffin girls there today. There are 6 Griffin girls that drive up from Griffin GA to work at Follies. Some are related to each other. The mother has apparently decided to hang up her shoes.
As for BBFS not from any girl that allows it ITC. I have done it OTC with a few dancers that I trusted.
For those of you who smugly stick your dick in a different stripper each week, condoms don't provide much protection against herpes (maybe 30% to 50%). There's also the possibility of slippage and breakage -- although I guess the odds are pretty low if you know what you're doing.
My own risk tolerance is that bareback sex is okay with one partner at a time, if both are tested, and it's something ongoing.
Nope! It might be enjoyable, great in the moment, but on the off chance you're rather unlucky afterwards, it'll probably be looked back on as not worth the risk.
But hey, I have went bareback with three different strippers, all OTC. And time has passed and all is well. I can't rationalize it as I knew them for some time or I was just so sure she was clean. Nonetheless, in hindsight I'm thinking what the hell was I thinking.
BurlingtonHF I’ve been tempted many times - but I’ve had to cover up each time. I understand the temptation is incredibly powerful. It’s difficult enough to get the skank stink off of me after a filthy club outing!
I used to do everything covered, including BJ and DATY. I fell from grace with the ATF, with whom I eventually went bare all the way. Since then, I pretty much only do BBBJ, but the only other person I’ve done BBFS with is the MILF.
I know who the OP mentions and she does not float my boat at all. That said, I am curious as to how she (or any stripper) brings this up.
Agreeing to customer preference.
Her preference
Offered as an option out of the gate
Upsell opportunity
Overcoming a lack of a condom objection (which might have been a nice way to try to turn her down)
Offered after original VIP request turned down.
Something else, like baby daddy trap (or did she insist no CIP?)
Marginal girl trying go above and beyond to get a VIP.
I have experienced #2 thru #6. And #8 but that is a matter of my opinion.
If I get an offer like that, in the back of my mind I wonder if the girl has some really serious illness (STD or otherwise) and just doesn't give a fuck any more. She's GOT to know she is playing with fire.
GoldmongerATL - those are good points. I think they’d be effective bargaining tools for certain otc girls.
It seems odd - after hearing about Trump being concerned about germs and being poisoned - for him to bareback a porn star. Her numbers of partners must be quite significant. Also, with his money, a paternity suit could be another concern?
I remember when that Elliot Spitzer scandal broke - with Ashley Dupree - that he wanted to bareback her. Maybe it’s a power and control thing?
Nope, no, nadda................you better have a test certificate stating you are clean--dated the day of our meet up for me to give it a second thought. ( and still the second thought due to risk of a nine month surprise is no)
There is a tuscl member with the scree name "Bareback" who is about as crazy as any I've seen on this score. When he isn't searching for BBFS in Thailand he is doing so in some of the shittiest hell holes in New England. Fucker is crazy.
A week ago in my favorite club, a favorite dancer pointed out a customer that comes in looking for bare back anal. Unfortunately I have been told which dancer will accommodate him. Yuk!
I had a stripper tell me, in all seriousness, she would just wrap my shirt around it so we would have protection. I declined and she just looked at me all cock eyed like there wasn't a logical bone in my body.
shadow - Know of one now former dancer there that claimed to offer it. Heard others talk of her doing it, too. MILES away from what I was interested in.
Has anyone ever heard of a stripper or PL who contracted HIV or something serious from bareback in the hobby? Has anyone ever heard of a paternity issue from hobbying with a stripper? (I.e., not someone dating a stripper - I'm talking about strictly p4p. And I'm not talking about someone who almost everyone believes is just a troll.) I'm just curious.
BHF - 6 years ago I knew of a dancer that had, had Chlamydia. She claimed to have gotten it from a customer. Her best friend is the one who told me and convinced me that she was now clean and I took them both to VIP on my 70th birthday.
I remember your birthday, Shadow. Both girls were hot as hell and worth it. My 70th is 10 years away and who the fuck knows, I may find myself back in the VIP with a couple hotties in your honor.
As for BBFS, I've had a couple girls who were dang near ready to insert my rod. As it was poised to go in, I mustered all my strength to pull it back. Only once did I fail. The girl was so fine. My little head was just sorta feeling the outside of her pussy in the VIP... and nature took over. We locked eyes in obvious acknowledgement of what was going on, but nature is a powerful force. She didn't resist in the least and seemed to enjoy surrendering to the moment. At least I had enough sense to pull out before cumming. I strangely felt okay about it and had no worries. I did test myself later and all was clear. I dodged a bullet and am reasonably confident it won't happen again... I tell myself...
BHF posted: "Has anyone ever heard of a stripper or PL who contracted HIV or something serious from bareback in the hobby?"
I knew a stripper who had HIV. I don't know if she caught it from a John or a needle, but she was still doing bareback long after her status was confirmed. I never heard of her infecting guy, but if she didn't it is only because F-M transmission is rare. I also knew of a girl who was barebacking when she had Hep C . Only by the grace of God did I not end up messing around with either of these girls.
As far as customers catching things, I guess it depends on what you call serious. In one club I visit, there was a girl who infected so many guys with gonorrhea that the local health department actually came into the club looking for her.
I’ve not heard of fellow pl’s getting HIV from unprotected sex with strippers. However, I don’t think we comprise a large sample size. We are probably 50-100 guys - who mostly use condoms.
The dangers are a mix of factors - as bareback dancers will bareback other dudes - and they might bareback to get money for drugs that they inject with shared needles. If one dancer fucks @SCPandit bareback - then she could spread it around....
I can say no here, but of course, in the heat of the moment, probably yes. So far, I've only done on girl bareback which was a SA hottie, on our first date, and we were both stupidly unprepared. "You have protection?" "Nope, you" "Nope" .... "Well I'm clean are you" "Yes I am too", and that was all it took. I am not always prepared because I'm not doing that again, it is a step beyond my risk tolerance.
No, and I have been offered bareback several times, and each time said no thank you.
In response to Goldmonger's question. In most cases it was usually a combination of an upsell and offered as an option out the gate, each time for about a $100 up charge. Several times the dancer was out of condoms and asked if I was safe then offered bareback. In that case I went for a blowjob only. Another time I was taking a bit too long to come for her, the dancer offered to do her bareback if that would help.
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Honestly, if she's hot and she looks clean, I would have a hard time saying no. This is not very rational, but somehow I'm just not afraid of bareback with a stripper or a civilian. It's very different with an escort. (And even then, I've had moments of weakness.) So probably yes.
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Only if she’s offering bareback anal. You might as well take a real risk!
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Fuck to the no. To the fuck. To the no.
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No. Covering it up is part of the 'deal'. No condom, no play.
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I hope I'd say no.
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I’ve had strippers complain about me insisting on wearing a condom.
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I just wish I could get an offer of anything haha
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I hope I would say no.
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BHF, different from an escort? Why? Follies girls do way more guys than escorts.
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No.
BHF... you're distinction between escorts and strippers is hilarious.
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What was her name?
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If she also walks me to the door afterwards I might consider it
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If one also gets a thrill of playing Russian-roulette then might as well
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Trixie, she’s one of the Griffin girls
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I just posted my review and incorrectly stated that the "other" Griffin girls weren't there. I stand corrected.
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I have sometimes gone bareback. Here's one of my stories.
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The "griffin girls"? Who are they
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Crazy bastards. Gotta' cover it up.
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No
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@Call.Me.Ishmael, @san_jose_guy,
Well, I said it wasn't a rational distinction. I can't even tell you how many times I've needed to wash the smell of stripper hooch off my crotch.
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It's really not a good idea to mention dancer names on here or in reviews but since you did, I do know who she is and turned her down for dances today. Can't stand the lousy fake tit job or her personality. I was sitting with Bubba and there were 4 of the Griffin girls there today. There are 6 Griffin girls that drive up from Griffin GA to work at Follies. Some are related to each other. The mother has apparently decided to hang up her shoes.
As for BBFS not from any girl that allows it ITC. I have done it OTC with a few dancers that I trusted.
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For those of you who smugly stick your dick in a different stripper each week, condoms don't provide much protection against herpes (maybe 30% to 50%). There's also the possibility of slippage and breakage -- although I guess the odds are pretty low if you know what you're doing.
My own risk tolerance is that bareback sex is okay with one partner at a time, if both are tested, and it's something ongoing.
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It depends on how hot she is. Uber hot, and she said no to covered sex, offering only bareback, I'd have a tough time refusing her.
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I bet we can all think of at least one dancer we would go be with if given the opportunity.
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"Baby daddy exit plan"
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Nope! It might be enjoyable, great in the moment, but on the off chance you're rather unlucky afterwards, it'll probably be looked back on as not worth the risk.
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But hey, I have went bareback with three different strippers, all OTC. And time has passed and all is well. I can't rationalize it as I knew them for some time or I was just so sure she was clean. Nonetheless, in hindsight I'm thinking what the hell was I thinking.
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Having never had a vasectomy I would say no fucking way on earth.
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BurlingtonHF I’ve been tempted many times - but I’ve had to cover up each time. I understand the temptation is incredibly powerful. It’s difficult enough to get the skank stink off of me after a filthy club outing!
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I used to do everything covered, including BJ and DATY. I fell from grace with the ATF, with whom I eventually went bare all the way. Since then, I pretty much only do BBBJ, but the only other person I’ve done BBFS with is the MILF.
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I know who the OP mentions and she does not float my boat at all. That said, I am curious as to how she (or any stripper) brings this up.
Agreeing to customer preference.
Her preference
Offered as an option out of the gate
Upsell opportunity
Overcoming a lack of a condom objection (which might have been a nice way to try to turn her down)
Offered after original VIP request turned down.
Something else, like baby daddy trap (or did she insist no CIP?)
Marginal girl trying go above and beyond to get a VIP.
I have experienced #2 thru #6. And #8 but that is a matter of my opinion.
If I get an offer like that, in the back of my mind I wonder if the girl has some really serious illness (STD or otherwise) and just doesn't give a fuck any more. She's GOT to know she is playing with fire.
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GoldmongerATL - those are good points. I think they’d be effective bargaining tools for certain otc girls.
It seems odd - after hearing about Trump being concerned about germs and being poisoned - for him to bareback a porn star. Her numbers of partners must be quite significant. Also, with his money, a paternity suit could be another concern?
I remember when that Elliot Spitzer scandal broke - with Ashley Dupree - that he wanted to bareback her. Maybe it’s a power and control thing?
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I see there are some folks here who just don’t have enough sense to come inside when there’s a storm brewing.
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Hell no.
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Gold-It was more along the lines of option 6
Now I agree with Shadow I should not have named names. Stupid mistake on my part.
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I'm surprised fishsticks hasn't chimed in with his BS experience.
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Nope, no, nadda................you better have a test certificate stating you are clean--dated the day of our meet up for me to give it a second thought. ( and still the second thought due to risk of a nine month surprise is no)
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There is a tuscl member with the scree name "Bareback" who is about as crazy as any I've seen on this score. When he isn't searching for BBFS in Thailand he is doing so in some of the shittiest hell holes in New England. Fucker is crazy.
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A week ago in my favorite club, a favorite dancer pointed out a customer that comes in looking for bare back anal. Unfortunately I have been told which dancer will accommodate him. Yuk!
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I had a stripper tell me, in all seriousness, she would just wrap my shirt around it so we would have protection. I declined and she just looked at me all cock eyed like there wasn't a logical bone in my body.
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shadow - Know of one now former dancer there that claimed to offer it. Heard others talk of her doing it, too. MILES away from what I was interested in.
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Don’t you remember his very first post he barebacked a stripper and was freaking out what should he do.
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Bareback feels so good, but “Just Say No”.
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"There is a tuscl member with the scree name 'Bareback' who is about as crazy as any I've seen on this score."
The existence of guys like this is one of the reasons why I always cover up.
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^ @25.
I don't know if it was his very first post, but yeah, that's what I was referring to
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Has anyone ever heard of a stripper or PL who contracted HIV or something serious from bareback in the hobby? Has anyone ever heard of a paternity issue from hobbying with a stripper? (I.e., not someone dating a stripper - I'm talking about strictly p4p. And I'm not talking about someone who almost everyone believes is just a troll.) I'm just curious.
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^ All I know is that I wouldn't want to be the PL that someone references when responding to that question.
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Per BHF's comment, probably not common but probably something that no one would generally divulge which would make it harder to know how common it is.
I've never had my house broken into but doesn't mean I shouldn't lock the doors
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BHF - 6 years ago I knew of a dancer that had, had Chlamydia. She claimed to have gotten it from a customer. Her best friend is the one who told me and convinced me that she was now clean and I took them both to VIP on my 70th birthday.
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I remember your birthday, Shadow. Both girls were hot as hell and worth it. My 70th is 10 years away and who the fuck knows, I may find myself back in the VIP with a couple hotties in your honor.
As for BBFS, I've had a couple girls who were dang near ready to insert my rod. As it was poised to go in, I mustered all my strength to pull it back. Only once did I fail. The girl was so fine. My little head was just sorta feeling the outside of her pussy in the VIP... and nature took over. We locked eyes in obvious acknowledgement of what was going on, but nature is a powerful force. She didn't resist in the least and seemed to enjoy surrendering to the moment. At least I had enough sense to pull out before cumming. I strangely felt okay about it and had no worries. I did test myself later and all was clear. I dodged a bullet and am reasonably confident it won't happen again... I tell myself...
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Don't be a fool, wrap the tool
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BHF posted: "Has anyone ever heard of a stripper or PL who contracted HIV or something serious from bareback in the hobby?"
I knew a stripper who had HIV. I don't know if she caught it from a John or a needle, but she was still doing bareback long after her status was confirmed. I never heard of her infecting guy, but if she didn't it is only because F-M transmission is rare. I also knew of a girl who was barebacking when she had Hep C . Only by the grace of God did I not end up messing around with either of these girls.
As far as customers catching things, I guess it depends on what you call serious. In one club I visit, there was a girl who infected so many guys with gonorrhea that the local health department actually came into the club looking for her.
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I’ve not heard of fellow pl’s getting HIV from unprotected sex with strippers. However, I don’t think we comprise a large sample size. We are probably 50-100 guys - who mostly use condoms.
The dangers are a mix of factors - as bareback dancers will bareback other dudes - and they might bareback to get money for drugs that they inject with shared needles. If one dancer fucks @SCPandit bareback - then she could spread it around....
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I can say no here, but of course, in the heat of the moment, probably yes. So far, I've only done on girl bareback which was a SA hottie, on our first date, and we were both stupidly unprepared. "You have protection?" "Nope, you" "Nope" .... "Well I'm clean are you" "Yes I am too", and that was all it took. I am not always prepared because I'm not doing that again, it is a step beyond my risk tolerance.
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No, and I have been offered bareback several times, and each time said no thank you.
In response to Goldmonger's question. In most cases it was usually a combination of an upsell and offered as an option out the gate, each time for about a $100 up charge. Several times the dancer was out of condoms and asked if I was safe then offered bareback. In that case I went for a blowjob only. Another time I was taking a bit too long to come for her, the dancer offered to do her bareback if that would help.
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