Ok so I am still learning. Trying to read and contribute to this site as much as I can. How do you guys handle girls stating how much I owe plus mandatory tip of 20% let's say. Or mandatory $10 etc. Got a dance from Naomi from BSC Phoenix. 5 dances. Cute smaller blonde girl, tight little body and very sexy to me. She demanded when I was done that I work her $125, not the $100 for the 5 dances then a tip if I so choose. I am the type of guy that likes to tip if it's genuine, and if they do good. I tip my CF anywhere from $5 to $20 or more most times because she is nice, humble, knows what I want and she knows that I will continue to bring my business to her. When girls demand I give a tip, it makes me not want to ever get a dance from them again. Am I wrong here? Any tips appreciated.
Agree with SirLap. If you negotiated a price before your dances, then that is what she gets. Unless she went " above and beyond ". Or if you want her to come back in the future. But if you want her to come back, then she is going to expect that tip again.
25 - I am afraid of girls in their underwear. Can you help ?
I've been a regular at Bourbon for decades, and have only tipped a few times. For some dancers, if they think you're a newbie or too intimidated to challenge them, it's like blood in the water. There's no negotiating, if I have five dances I hand her 100 and thank her for a fun time. The ones demanding extra tips or inflated dance prices are the ones not already making bank. Watch out for Kitty at Bourbon
I tend to over tip. If there’s a question - I’ll tip higher than lower.
If a dancer tells me what to tip - that will piss me off. It’s not her choice - because it’s not her money. Dancers get too comfortable demanding money from customers - and telling a customer what to tip is an easy mistake.
I’ll listen and then I’ll decide what the dancer deserves. If she goes above and beyond - then she gets a nice tip. If she isn’t good - her tip will be significantly lower.
Dancers demand tips b/c they know there are plenty of inexperienced SCers that easily get intimidated.
In the past it seems the rule-of-thumb on TUSCL is that if she asks for a tip then she does not get-one (especially if she did not go above and beyond).
@Cashman you hit the nail on the head, dancers get too comfortable demanding money from guys, the real problem is most guys just fold like wet napkins. If a few guys were more stand up and and wouldn’t reward bad behaviors it might change.
Too many guys are just plain intimidated by these girls I really don’t understand it myself.
Dancers who demand a tip almost always give poor to mediocre service, and have an entitled attitude. Thus, I never tip when demanded. I also never get more dances with a dancer who demands a tip. Never. This practice has served me well over the years. I do sometimes tip, and I spend liberally for excellent service, but I will not be guilted into paying something that I don't owe.
Select the girl you want and approach her yourself. Start feeding her money and turn on some charm and let a front room makeout session ensue. Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.
Then take her home with you and continue to see her regularly.
If you do things this way, you will not have need for visiting strip clubs very often.
You shouldn't take the way things are offered in strip clubs at face value. They are fine tuned well oiled machines for separating marks from their money.
So I posted this question right after she demanded for a tip. I gave her some, but not all of the tip she demanded. Said that's all I had. Within 15 minutes my ATF showed up, came up to me, chatted to about 20 minutes. Then we went to the back for 5 dances. I spotted Naomi and sat right next to her. Haha. Take that bitch. And I tipped my ATF as usual because she gives me the greatest dances lots of intimacy and I can suck on her boobs. Bitch. She would have had more dances if she didn't ask for a tip. She was frisky though. Stuck her hand up my shorts, undid my belt, rubbed me occasionally through the shorts and one of her pussy lips was sticking out of her thong.
Ive never had one demand a tip, but I've had it where they hinted at wanting a tip. I'll only tip if I feel the need to and if they ask/imply for a tip, I only tip if the dance was truly exceptional and it'll be however much I decide.
I read the reviews by the OP to get an idea of what this guy is looking for in his dances. Based on his comments he's clearly in the gateway mileage zone, but it's not hard to see why some girls think they could shake him down for a tip. If the writing has the noob vibe, whatever's getting communicated in the club is probably also throwing that vibe. "Ok so I am still learning. Trying to read and contribute to this site as much as I can." There's always something new to learn. This is a good place to pick up tidbits from experienced club hounds.
Tip or no tip? That's up to you. If they don't ask for it, great. But they will start to expect it. If they do ask for it, you decide. I take every dance (if it's a new girl) on a case by case basis. "How do you guys handle girls stating how much I owe plus mandatory tip of 20% let's say. Or mandatory $10 etc." -> I could give a shit what a dancer's standard tip rate is, but I don't. She's not a fucking waitress, she's a stripper.
"I tip my CF anywhere from $5 to $20 or more most times because she is nice, humble, knows what I want and she knows that I will continue to bring my business to her." -> Good for you. You like what she's dishing up, and she likes getting a tip. Win-win. Now...if "Naomi" heard from your "ATF" that you're a good tipper, and the usual tip is 20%+ when you get dances, is her asking for a tip her problem or yours? Is your ATF and CF the same person? If not, you might want to reconsider who's who.
Your interactions with the talent don't happen in a vacuum. Coworkers gossip. Sometimes about customers. And whether or not you're spending more money in front of the jilted stripper is probably only important to you. You making it known that you're intentionally trying to rankle a stripper because she insulted you (by acting like a stripper) only makes you look petty and vindictive. If the dancers notice, the best result is they don't care and think you're an idiot. Otherwise that's the path to making drama where you didn't need drama. Strippers make plenty of drama all on their own.
"When girls demand I give a tip, it makes me not want to ever get a dance from them again. Am I wrong here? Any tips appreciated." No, you're not wrong. If you're going to be a regular somewhere, the best thing you can do to help yourself is make it clear what your boundaries are and to be consistent with the dancers. Word will get around. For new clubs, just go with the flow.
I was at a club the other day and a dancer I'd just wrapped up a VIP with decided to tell me her asking price for how things went was usually double what she'd quoted me before the session. She'd said the rate she gave me was the starting rate, and since I was listening I did remember her saying that. But, if you go in with a price and no upsell gets discussed the entire time then it's a gray area. If I draw a hard line, I can just say here's what we agreed on and for her to piss off. That probably would have worked, since she'd basically already said she'd take the rate she quoted. However, she'd also delivered the most intense VIP experience I've had in a while for a rate that was almost silly for how hot she was. So I split the difference and we both walked away content.
It's rare I meet a dancer I'd go out of my way to see again. If I meet one, am I going to scrap a possible repeat because I have a rule that's more important than leaving things on good terms with a 9 or a 10 I'd like to visit with again?
When I had a cf - she never asked for a tip. She’d tell me the dance count - and it was always less than the actual count - and we were always good. She was full service - and she knew exactly how to get me off.
I knew she had gotten into some rough stuff - when she brought up money. She asked for a tip once - and I tipped her $100. I saw her several times after that - and she never asked again.
She then stopped stripping - and started escorting. I stopped seeing her shortly after. I was pretty sure she was hitting drugs at that point - and it was a sad decline.
I think they should work it into their price beforehand, rather than calling it a “tip,” if they want to charge above the House rate. Some girls think it sounds better to present things that way, but it just sounds entitled and bratty. If they don’t tell you until after the dances, I wouldn’t pay above the house rate.
I almost never tip a new dancer unless she was exceptional and becomes potential fave material. But the ones that we have no chemistry and gave a mediocre dance, I pay for what I got and move on with a "no thank you." Now I'm not as draconian as some in never getting a dance from her again, but do keep it in the back of my mind.
With the fave I always tip and tip generously. I generally dislike it when anyone asks for tips, but when she first asked, she did it such a playful way, I happily obliged.
We have talked abt this here before. Tipping a stripper is not like tipping a waitress or skycap for example. The stripper is getting paid for the dance directly so it's not necessary to tip them but there is nothing wrong with tipping them if you feel the need.
31 comments
Latest
It is really (really) poor form to 1) ask for a tip and also 2) not tip for above and beyond service.
25 - I am afraid of girls in their underwear. Can you help ?
If a dancer tells me what to tip - that will piss me off. It’s not her choice - because it’s not her money. Dancers get too comfortable demanding money from customers - and telling a customer what to tip is an easy mistake.
I’ll listen and then I’ll decide what the dancer deserves. If she goes above and beyond - then she gets a nice tip. If she isn’t good - her tip will be significantly lower.
In the past it seems the rule-of-thumb on TUSCL is that if she asks for a tip then she does not get-one (especially if she did not go above and beyond).
Too many guys are just plain intimidated by these girls I really don’t understand it myself.
Select the girl you want and approach her yourself. Start feeding her money and turn on some charm and let a front room makeout session ensue. Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.
Then take her home with you and continue to see her regularly.
If you do things this way, you will not have need for visiting strip clubs very often.
You shouldn't take the way things are offered in strip clubs at face value. They are fine tuned well oiled machines for separating marks from their money.
SJG
Glenn Gould
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZF2kE3c…
Dancer: Don't I get a tip?
Me: You might have, until you asked for one.
The issue I've had is girls asking money for their time when I pass on a dance. But it's easy enough to say no.
Tip or no tip? That's up to you. If they don't ask for it, great. But they will start to expect it. If they do ask for it, you decide. I take every dance (if it's a new girl) on a case by case basis. "How do you guys handle girls stating how much I owe plus mandatory tip of 20% let's say. Or mandatory $10 etc." -> I could give a shit what a dancer's standard tip rate is, but I don't. She's not a fucking waitress, she's a stripper.
"I tip my CF anywhere from $5 to $20 or more most times because she is nice, humble, knows what I want and she knows that I will continue to bring my business to her." -> Good for you. You like what she's dishing up, and she likes getting a tip. Win-win. Now...if "Naomi" heard from your "ATF" that you're a good tipper, and the usual tip is 20%+ when you get dances, is her asking for a tip her problem or yours? Is your ATF and CF the same person? If not, you might want to reconsider who's who.
Your interactions with the talent don't happen in a vacuum. Coworkers gossip. Sometimes about customers. And whether or not you're spending more money in front of the jilted stripper is probably only important to you. You making it known that you're intentionally trying to rankle a stripper because she insulted you (by acting like a stripper) only makes you look petty and vindictive. If the dancers notice, the best result is they don't care and think you're an idiot. Otherwise that's the path to making drama where you didn't need drama. Strippers make plenty of drama all on their own.
"When girls demand I give a tip, it makes me not want to ever get a dance from them again. Am I wrong here? Any tips appreciated." No, you're not wrong. If you're going to be a regular somewhere, the best thing you can do to help yourself is make it clear what your boundaries are and to be consistent with the dancers. Word will get around. For new clubs, just go with the flow.
I was at a club the other day and a dancer I'd just wrapped up a VIP with decided to tell me her asking price for how things went was usually double what she'd quoted me before the session. She'd said the rate she gave me was the starting rate, and since I was listening I did remember her saying that. But, if you go in with a price and no upsell gets discussed the entire time then it's a gray area. If I draw a hard line, I can just say here's what we agreed on and for her to piss off. That probably would have worked, since she'd basically already said she'd take the rate she quoted. However, she'd also delivered the most intense VIP experience I've had in a while for a rate that was almost silly for how hot she was. So I split the difference and we both walked away content.
It's rare I meet a dancer I'd go out of my way to see again. If I meet one, am I going to scrap a possible repeat because I have a rule that's more important than leaving things on good terms with a 9 or a 10 I'd like to visit with again?
I knew she had gotten into some rough stuff - when she brought up money. She asked for a tip once - and I tipped her $100. I saw her several times after that - and she never asked again.
She then stopped stripping - and started escorting. I stopped seeing her shortly after. I was pretty sure she was hitting drugs at that point - and it was a sad decline.
With the fave I always tip and tip generously. I generally dislike it when anyone asks for tips, but when she first asked, she did it such a playful way, I happily obliged.